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Elliot Temple on July 23, 2018

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https://www.aqr.com/Insights/Perspectives/Virtue-is-its-Own-Reward-Or-One-Mans-Ceiling-is-Another-Mans-Floor

About how virtue investing should/must generate lower returns.

> What happens when one group of investors, call them the virtuous, simply won’t own a segment of the market (the sin stocks)? Well, in economist terms the market still has to “clear.” In English, everything still gets owned by someone. So, clearly the group without such qualms, call them the sinners, have to own more than they otherwise would of the sin stocks. How does a market get anyone, perhaps particularly a sinner, to own more of something? Well it pays them! In this case through a higher expected return on the segment in question. This may be unpleasant but it is just math (like math could ever be unpleasant). In the absence of extra expected return the sinners would own X of the market segment in question. The only way to get them to own X+Y is to pay them something more. Now, assuming nothing else changed, how does the market assign this sinful segment a higher expected return? Well by according it a lower price. That is, if the virtuous decide they won’t own something, the sinners then have to, and they have to be induced to through getting a higher expected return than otherwise. This in turn is achieved through a lower than otherwise price.

Quibble: the sin stocks could stay at the same price while the virtue stocks have an inflated price.

> Put simply, if the virtuous are not raising the cost of capital to sinful projects, what are they doing? How are they actually affecting the world as they wish to? If the cost of capital isn’t also an expected return, what is it? This might be a painful reality to swallow for the virtuous. To get precisely what they want, which is less of the bad stuff occurring, they have to pay the sinful investors in the form of a higher expected return. 16 Importantly, this isn’t an accidental byproduct of ESG investing. It’s the only way all this really matters one drop to the central issue – how much bad stuff happens. If the discount rate used by sinful companies isn’t higher as a result of constraints on holding sinful stocks then there was no impact. And, if the discount rate on sin is now higher, the sinful investors make more going forward than otherwise.

There's also a good section, earlier on, about how you can't get an advantage by constraining your investing (b/c, if it's an advantage, the unconstrained investor will do the same thing). So it's ridiculous to claim virtue investing gives you equal or better returns. (That's true mathematically, but one could claim there is a market failure where most people aren't recognizing the long run advantages of virtuous companies, so investing in them gets you better returns compared to unconstrained investing combined with foresight errors. In other words, virtue investing is what *you* would do if you did unconstrained investing, but not what the *typical* person would do, because you're smarter than them.)

All these points are pretty much independent of whether you conflate virtue with leftism/environmentalism/SJWism (as "ESG" investing commonly does) or not.


Anonymous at 7:03 PM on July 23, 2018 | #10384 | reply | quote

https://youtu.be/20HDmRbYefw?t=5m14s

Obama, like many "leaders", has no real control over what he says publicly or what the leftist agenda is. In 2003, he tried saying we should do more to promote marriage in order to reduce gun violence. He got attacked from the left and shut up about it. He's a panderer and trend-follower.


Anonymous at 7:25 PM on July 23, 2018 | #10386 | reply | quote

Tucker: Washington not worried about male wage crisis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJVN_ReJD00

Yes there are flaws here (some of the concerns about automation in factories and self-driving cars, as a threat to male jobs). But there are important points here too.

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Tucker: Obama pushed idea that girls thrive when men fail

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0wCBFNTVhk

Using facts, Tucker challenges anti-male sexism.

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Tucker: Why men need marriage, fathers at home

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgHzvUyb-Bw

---

Tucker: Illegal immigrants, robots ganging up on men?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvQaByq5Mw4

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Tucker is trying to help America. Thanks, Tucker.


Anonymous at 7:38 PM on July 23, 2018 | #10387 | reply | quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EiyuZwPKFQ

Documentaries about Greece are generally nice. Most of this one is pretty good.

It has a huge inaccuracy, though. It presents all the Greeks including the Athenians as being equally bellicose, and presents Athens as starting the Peloponnesian War, abruptly, because Pericles wanted more power and glory for Athens. wtf?


Anonymous at 9:11 PM on July 23, 2018 | #10388 | reply | quote

People are so concerned with correlations and think that correlations speak for themselves. This is connected with induction, which basically says the data can speak for itself.

Inductivists and correlationists both make the same mistake of paying selective attention to some particular patterns/data/whatever, and some particular possible cause, without much thought to the infinitely many alternatives.

Another related issue is "the future (likely) will resemble the past". This inductivist motto is also a standard part of believing a correlation in the past will hold in the future. Actually, the future always resembles the past in some ways and differs from the past in other ways, and it takes thought (including explanations and criticisms) to figure out which are which.


curi at 9:16 PM on July 23, 2018 | #10389 | reply | quote

iPhone X vs. Macbook (12", not pro or air)

19% of the weight and 49% of the battery power (in terms of actual amount of energy is in the battery, unrelated to how much energy the device uses).

The iPhone X has a much higher battery-to-other-stuff ratio, despite being smaller (the smaller the device, the harder it is to make the CPU and other computer stuff be a small portion of the device).


Anonymous at 9:44 PM on July 23, 2018 | #10390 | reply | quote

https://vdare.com/articles/conservatism-inc-s-fawning-response-to-james-gunn-scandal-reveals-where-its-true-loyalties-lie

Some conservatives have double standards on what jokes they think should destroy people's career. The double standards are compatible with appeasing lefties


Anonymous at 5:19 AM on July 24, 2018 | #10391 | reply | quote

https://slickdeals.net/share/iphone_app/t/11856451

Good deal on widescreen monitor tho some ppl complain of flickering at higher hz


Anonymous at 5:43 AM on July 24, 2018 | #10392 | reply | quote

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/07/24/throttling-i9-macbook-pro-power-delivery-chip/

> A user posting on reddit and in the MacRumors forums has given a detailed account of their findings and attempts to circumvent the throttling previously discovered on the new MacBook Pro 15" models featuring the six-core i9 Intel CPUs.

> The user goes on to explain that one of the internal power limits set for the device may not be appropriate for the power draw of the CPU and identical to previous MacBook Pro models, causing the power delivery chip (known as a voltage regulation module, or VRM) to report an over power condition that forces the clock of the CPU down to scale back power. This sets up the same conditions to allow throttling to occur once again.

> These conditions may be presenting themselves due to the new six-core design of the i9 CPU featured here. While Intel increased the core count of the CPU, they did not increase the thermal design power (TDP), or the amount of dissipated power manufacturers should plan to have to cool for a proper CPU design. This is an issue because this number usually reflects normal usage, and does not account for turbo modes. It's also likely it can exceed the draw of previous four core CPUs given the similarity of clock speeds and process nodes they are featured on.

> A method for tuning this limit is provided in the post, but it requires executing a command manually or via script each time the computer boots, and would likely void the warranty if Apple technicians discovered it. Still, the user posts results of benchmarks showing successive runs with no throttling. Manufacturers will always quote likely reduced component lifetimes if used outside of their specifications, but the results appear stable, and there is no thermal throttling of the CPU, the original suspected cause of this issue.

> This fix will not address total system power draw becoming excessive, such as long sustained loads from the CPU and GPU, but it is possible Apple could issue a fix similar to the one outlined in the reddit post that is stable.

> As for whether this issue is related to the hardware design of the MacBook Pro, that is possible as well. While iFixit's complete teardown of the current 15-inch MacBook Pro is not yet available, the previous teardown reveals significant differences in the VRM chips that power the GPU and CPU of the device.

> GPU power components

> The GPU power components seen above are on the top side of the logic board near the GPU die, and thermal grease can be seen on the components, indicating that they interface with the heatsink in the device. This is in contrast to the same components for the CPU, which are featured on the rear side of the logic board with no thermal interface to the top of the package, as seen below.

> CPU power components

> Additionally, the publicly available data sheets for these parts indicate more differences that suggest their thermal profiles will be different. The International Rectifier part for the GPU features a lower thermal resistance, meaning it can better dissipate its heat to the surrounding areas (board, air, heatsink) than the Intersil part for the CPU. Additionally, it boasts a higher power efficiency, meaning it dissipates less power itself to deliver the same amount of power as the Intersil part.

> Along with the heatsink path provided for the IR parts, it's clear they will not be capable of driving the same amount of load in any sustained mode. This makes sense given GPUs can see high loads for longer periods, but this could be an area of improvement for future MacBook Pro models from Apple, especially since it has typically chosen GPUs with very similar thermal design power limits (TDPs) to the CPUs in its MacBook Pro line.


Anonymous at 7:49 AM on July 24, 2018 | #10393 | reply | quote

>https://slickdeals.net/share/iphone_app/t/11856451

> Good deal on widescreen monitor tho some ppl complain of flickering at higher hz

Good price but brightness on monitor is kinda low. Much lower than iMac 5k display


Anonymous at 8:11 AM on July 24, 2018 | #10394 | reply | quote

> https://vdare.com/articles/conservatism-inc-s-fawning-response-to-james-gunn-scandal-reveals-where-its-true-loyalties-lie

> Some conservatives have double standards on what jokes they think should destroy people's career. The double standards are compatible with appeasing lefties

Oh shit. So I'm reading along and it's like the Never Trumper attacked Roseanne but defends the leftist who wrote *much* nastier tweets. And SE Cupp too. OK, whatever. Awful people being awful.

Then next it's Ben Shapiro!

> Minicon Ben Shapiro, another opponent of Trump during the primaries, is also among Gunn defenders. Shapiro acknowledged Gunn’s tweets were “loathsome” but said “that doesn’t mean he should have lost his job at Disney”. [Should James Gunn have lost his job at Disney? Daily Wire, July 20, 2018]

> Roseanne, however, was different: “Roseanne played herself in the series, so when she made a new racist reference about Valerie Jarrett, her persona was inseparable from her character,” Shapiro wrote. “Roseanne was Roseanne.”

Crap, I thought Shapiro was better than *that*. No wonder he no longer works with David Horowitz and Truth Revolt.


Anonymous at 9:26 AM on July 24, 2018 | #10395 | reply | quote

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2018/07/24/iphone-x-resale-value

iPhone X resale value is 75-85% of the original price. It's 9 months old. Amazing!


Anonymous at 9:49 AM on July 24, 2018 | #10396 | reply | quote

Bounded and Unbounded Emotions

New article about changing bad emotions: https://rationalessays.com/bounded-emotions


curi at 11:03 AM on July 24, 2018 | #10397 | reply | quote

Rational Essays Site Updates

https://rationalessays.com

The sidebar got too full so I put the essay list on the home page (along with a newsletter signup underneath). I'm open to suggestions about a better site layout.


curi at 11:30 AM on July 24, 2018 | #10398 | reply | quote

I couldn't convince them of anything. But I was totally calm throughout as they attacked me. It felt awesome.


ff at 11:35 AM on July 24, 2018 | #10400 | reply | quote

Its funny how aggressive they get even if you agree with them on many issues. They want you to fully submit to them.


ff at 11:41 AM on July 24, 2018 | #10403 | reply | quote

#10399 When I hover my mouse of one of their names, info about them pops up. This is normal on twitter (not mobile). Example:

But it won't show up when I hover on Basileus. FF, is twitter screwing with your account? Also why aren't you following @curi42 ?


Anonymous at 11:43 AM on July 24, 2018 | #10404 | reply | quote

#10404 I follow some people using lists and bookmarks.


ff at 11:48 AM on July 24, 2018 | #10405 | reply | quote

#10404 The hover thing started working. I'd already tried on multiple pages and refreshing multiple times. But now it works. I don't get it.

https://twitter.com/SoiledSnowflake/status/1021813452984086530

> I am 100% sure that Basileus has been accused of rape... by the women he raped. It's the only explanation for his fevered worry.

What a nasty comment.

FF, your posts would be better with some quotes of good parts. Clicking that many links (and not really being sure what order stuff goes in or how it started) is confusing and unappealing. Plus the feminists are awful so I don't want to read through what they said, but a few quotes or a summary of what to learn from it could interest me.


Anonymous at 11:50 AM on July 24, 2018 | #10406 | reply | quote

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/22-of-us-population-does-not-speak-english-at-home

> Some 13.5 percent of the U.S. population -- 44 million -- is foreign born, the highest level ever, and many are not proficient in English, choosing to speak Spanish at home instead.

> A report from the Migration Policy Institute found that 22 percent of the U.S. population does not speak English at home.


Anonymous at 11:55 AM on July 24, 2018 | #10407 | reply | quote

The left is so nasty and hateful.


Anonymous at 12:01 PM on July 24, 2018 | #10408 | reply | quote

Image:


ff at 12:08 PM on July 24, 2018 | #10409 | reply | quote

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ff at 12:12 PM on July 24, 2018 | #10410 | reply | quote

ff at 12:12 PM on July 24, 2018 | #10411 | reply | quote

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ff at 12:14 PM on July 24, 2018 | #10412 | reply | quote

You don't need to write "Image:" in front of your images.

https://qz.com/980766/the-truth-about-false-rape-accusations/

> In every academic study, one of the most common kinds of false accuser is a teenage girl who tells her parents she was raped to avoid getting in trouble. Unwanted pregnancy is sometimes cited by such girls, but the reason can also be trivial; the phrase “missed curfew” shows up with disturbing frequency in these cases. As a rule, it’s the parents who insist on getting police involved. Two different studies have found that almost half of all false rape complaints are lodged by someone other than the alleged victim, usually a parent.

> Another kind of case which evaporates rapidly is that of a person who falsely reports a rape in the hope of getting needed medical care or psychiatric medication; in one study, six of the 55 reports classified as false by a police department in one year fit this description. Like the teens who missed their curfew, these false accusers have no interest in pursuing charges after the lie has served its purpose.

That's plausible. The article seems like feminist propaganda though. It downplays the frequency and consequences of false rape accusations.


Anonymous at 12:23 PM on July 24, 2018 | #10413 | reply | quote

How would FI members deal with these people?


FF at 12:31 PM on July 24, 2018 | #10414 | reply | quote

#10408 Great followups by @patio11

> How would FI members deal with these people?

Why deal with them?


Anonymous at 12:33 PM on July 24, 2018 | #10415 | reply | quote

#10415 Shouldn't people try to burst their bubble? They are thinking they are on the right side and destroying society.


ff at 12:41 PM on July 24, 2018 | #10416 | reply | quote

> #10415 Shouldn't people try to burst their bubble? They are thinking they are on the right side and destroying society.

there are better people to help first, who are more interested in learning/thinking/reasoning/truth. don't try to start with some of the most unreasonable people.


Anonymous at 12:47 PM on July 24, 2018 | #10417 | reply | quote

Why didn't Roark read philosophy? Why didn't he ask for criticism?

Why doesn't he do some of the things FI members do? Why is he too sure of everything?


FF at 12:59 PM on July 24, 2018 | #10418 | reply | quote

> there are better people to help first, who are more interested in learning/thinking/reasoning/truth. don't try to start with some of the most unreasonable people.

There must be something a person would say that you drive them towards the center. Make them reasonable.


FF at 1:02 PM on July 24, 2018 | #10419 | reply | quote

> there are better people to help first, who are more interested in learning/thinking/reasoning/truth. don't try to start with some of the most unreasonable people.

There must be something a person could say that would drive them towards the center. Make them reasonable.


ff at 1:02 PM on July 24, 2018 | #10420 | reply | quote

#10398 What about having broad headings on the side bar that unfold more specific headings beneath them when you click?


oh my god it's turpentine at 1:10 PM on July 24, 2018 | #10421 | reply | quote

#10421 I could do that. There are some downsides, like it involves hidden stuff and people suck at computers, and expanding stuff is an extra step, and once there are more articles it'd require article categories for them all to fit on one page.

I think I'll change "Home" to say "Essay list" or "Essays" so that's clearer.


curi at 1:38 PM on July 24, 2018 | #10422 | reply | quote

#10420 You're paying selective attention to people who are putting effort into not learning from you. 99% of people need to learn a ton. Try to help someone who wants to learn (yourself or others). If we could help the top 10% of people a lot, then there'd be way more people to help the other 90% later.


Anonymous at 1:40 PM on July 24, 2018 | #10423 | reply | quote

> Why didn't Roark read philosophy? Why didn't he ask for criticism?

> Why doesn't he do some of the things FI members do? Why is he too sure of everything?

Rand didn't know everything. The internet didn't exist. Who would Roark have asked for criticism and gotten good ideas from?

Maybe he read some philosophy but he was an architect not a philosopher.


Anonymous at 1:41 PM on July 24, 2018 | #10424 | reply | quote

Anonymous at 1:46 PM on July 24, 2018 | #10425 | reply | quote

that’s impossible, she went to rehab years ago. doesn’t rehab work??


Anonymous at 2:03 PM on July 24, 2018 | #10426 | reply | quote

SNL writer criticizes culture of intentionally unfunny comedy

http://thefederalist.com/2018/07/23/snl-writer-michael-che-criticizes-unfunny-comedy-culture/

Apparently people are making programs where they just eg talk about their being queer and getting raped and say it's stand up comedy


Anonymous at 2:51 PM on July 24, 2018 | #10427 | reply | quote

https://twitter.com/CaolanRob/status/1021767477552795648

Good video. Lauren Southern tries to talk to some protestors but they won't discuss, they just want to flame her. LS asks for evidence and what they come up with is that she disagrees with them (not joking).

Replying to the video, Count Dankula says:

> Imagine raising a child and showering it with affection, pouring your heart, soul and love into it's upbringing and wishing it all the best of luck in accomplishing great things.

> And then it grows up to be one of these window lickers.

Being an SJW is not a random event. It doesn't just happen to your kid due to bad luck. If you parented better, it won't happen.

Stop sending your kid to be indoctrinated at leftist schools – and forcing him to keep going when he doesn't like it – and making other massive parenting mistakes. Parents are usually responsible for their kids growing up to be awful people.

The occasional murderer, you can blame bad luck. Maybe 100,000 parents all raise their kids to have a 0.0001% chance to be a murderer and you parent just as well as them and get unlucky.

But if and a bunch of other parents raise your kid to have a 50+% chance to be an SJW in high school or college, you're a bad parent. That isn't bad luck, it's you raising a kid who is bad at thinking.

BTW if you live in a gang area, and you have a kid, and you don't have a plan for how to parent different so he doesn't become a gang banger, and he becomes a gang banger ... that's your fault.


curi at 3:41 PM on July 24, 2018 | #10428 | reply | quote

Trump proposes totally free trade with EU but is doubtful they'll take him up on it https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1021909900941815809?s=21


Anonymous at 5:19 PM on July 24, 2018 | #10429 | reply | quote

Professor marks student down for using "mankind", says word is sexist and only refers to men

https://youtu.be/kAxUDMy1oUw


Anonymous at 4:20 AM on July 25, 2018 | #10431 | reply | quote

https://www.meforum.org/articles/2018/exclusive-obama-administration-knowingly-funded-a

> the Obama administration approved a grant of $200,000 of taxpayer money to an al-Qaeda affiliate in Sudan — a decade after the U.S. Treasury designated it as a terrorist-financing organization. More stunningly, government officials specifically authorized the release of at least $115,000 of this grant even *after* learning that it was a designated terror organization.


Anonymous at 12:11 PM on July 25, 2018 | #10433 | reply | quote

Just noticed Roseanne is Rose + Anne.


Anonymous at 12:13 PM on July 25, 2018 | #10434 | reply | quote

Psychiatry is an absolute sham, an excuse to horrifically abuse children:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5992551/Barbara-OHare-opens-abuse-hands-Dr-Kenneth-Milner.html


Anonymous at 6:56 PM on July 25, 2018 | #10436 | reply | quote

Another great patio11 tweetstorm. This one is talking to his bank about buying US currency. https://twitter.com/patio11/status/1022321992312078336


Anonymous at 9:44 PM on July 25, 2018 | #10437 | reply | quote

Libs sometimes act as if the following were true: if there was ever any racist argument for a policy then the policy is bad.

But they are inconsistent.

Like there used to be racist arguments for favoring certain countries in immigration quotas so that's supposed to be bad.

But gun control had a racist element to it in US history but somehow isn't tainted as a policy..


Anonymous at 11:48 PM on July 25, 2018 | #10438 | reply | quote

Hoplite

http://www.magmafortress.com/p/hoplite.html

Hoplite (iOS, Android) is a great strategy game. It's designed well to make combat interesting. You choose some special powers and fight 4 types of enemy. You have limited ability to kill things at long range so you have to dodge around a lot and approach intelligently.

I played a bunch a few years ago. He improved the game balance and added new challenge levels. I think he generated thousands of them with software to make a random 3 levels + different set of special powers.

I got to very high level before using protection (can only take one damage per turn, IIRC) and longer range jump (4 instead of 2). he nerfed those hard (protection removed entirely, and the jump distance reduced to 3). he also nerfed the other protection ability i used, shielding bash.

the game balance is better and fairer now. here's my current idea about the best build for the regular game:

slash jump (1), agility (2), 5range beam (2+1+2), swift jump (3), mighty bash (1), reaction (1), bloodlust (2), energy (1) = 16 cost (2 hearts left).

you start with 3 hearts and get 15 shrines to pray at (= 18 points max). each one gives you either a heart or a power (and some powers subtract hearts, e.g. agility takes away 1 heart and also you're giving up a heart by choosing it instead of a heart, so the overall cost is 2).

it'd be nice to have 3 hearts and reduced shield bash cooldown. but i don't know what else to drop. i was using shielding bash before but i found mighty bash + reaction is better than shielding bash level 2, then i found 5range beam is better than level 1 of shielding bash.

the most optional stuff in my build is mighty bash and the mana talents. i think reaction is really necessary if you don't have shielding bash. in my current game right now i'm missing bloodlust so i have 4 hearts. it's hard to get the exact build you want cuz sometimes the shrine you need doesn't spawn. i've been doing alright but i think the extra 6 mana per kill would be good. i think it's significantly better than the +20 max energy.

i choose the slash jump talent thing over deep lunge b/c it makes a lot more leaps kill something. the way it works is you get one kill (often with beam) and then you do a leap that kills something, and then you use the free action from leaping to get a third kill to trigger agility to get another free action.

so it's like: beam, leap, free action, free action (the leap and first free action have to kill stuff). this is really powerful and lets you get some kills safely without getting hit, even when there are lots of ranged enemies. range 5 beam means you have as much range as the enemies, so if you shoot in a direction you're always safe from that direction instead of leaving one ranged guy who was out of range and can shoot back.

mighty bash makes you go back 2 squares from reaction with you do a bash. this is bad sometimes but often it helps you get to safety. i think it's good overall. and knocking bombs (or enemies) forward 2 squares is usually better than 1.

another big thing is you can leap to where ranged enemies can hit you and then beam them with the free action. without swift leap, you can't take the initiative to approach them. being able to take the initiative is really important. if you start a level by playing passive, it's risky. sometimes the ranged people will just point everywhere and you'll get in trouble. if you start clearing some guys out immediately before they all converge on you, then it's safer.


curi at 1:23 AM on July 26, 2018 | #10439 | reply | quote

Anonymous at 10:14 AM on July 26, 2018 | #10440 | reply | quote

Company already working on senescent cell clearance starts a spin-off targeting cancer https://www.fightaging.org/archives/2018/07/oncosenx-is-the-oisin-biotechnologies-spinoff-targeting-cancer/


Anonymous at 11:06 AM on July 26, 2018 | #10441 | reply | quote

#10441 Odds they save me? Assume I would die of old age at 90 and i'm currently 42.


Anonymous at 12:43 PM on July 26, 2018 | #10442 | reply | quote

Hopelite

> slash jump (1), agility (2), 5range beam (2+1+2), swift jump (3), mighty bash (1), reaction (1), bloodlust (2), energy (1) = 16 cost (2 hearts left).

I got this exact build this time (sometimes you get the wrong prayers – especially sometimes wizard beam isn't available on level 8 and then you just have to reset i guess. or try a build with the ability to teleport to your spear? i think recalling your spear to your hand and plant spear are awful, but teleporting has some potential. it's hard to kill of it without being able to lunge with no spear though).

I'm around level 40. I've been hit twice. One of them could have been avoided if i had shielding bash level 1. i forget what the other one was. i might have just done it for convenience. you can play more aggressively if you just take a hit, and you heal it when the level ends anyway. i've been avoiding getting hit just as a goal, but sometimes it's just easier to get hit once.

i think i only used greater energy once. i ran through the level aggressively. i probably could have done something else without it.

maybe instead of 20mana and mighty bash, it'd be better to have shielding base level one *and* reaction. reaction is good because the ranged guys generally try to aim at you, so standing still while bashing is bad, whereas moving often dodges stuff.

i'm not sure how bad it would be not to have mighty bash. mighty bash is sometimes bad.

another option is to play with one heart and give up the ability to let something hit you and heal it with the fleece. i think that'd be bad because i could never jump somewhere a bomb would hit me, and i seem to need to do that occasionally. (bombs are one of the bigger threats because they hit you after you jump before your free action, and they can cover a large area that's hard to jump away from).

maybe instead of shielding bash, you just drop +20 energy for a third heart (because the heart is cheaper, so you can keep mighty bash). then you can take an extra hit sometimes and earn it back later. it's sort of like shielding bash but you can only use it once (let something hit you on a level where you already took a hit) until you get a level with no damage to heal back up. running low on energy is rarely a problem with bloodlust. sometimes it is though. i just remembered there was one level where i almost got screwed, in addition to taking a damage (shielding bash would have prevented it), i also got really low on mana that level and had trouble getting kills. i believe a bomb killed an enemy and gave me 6 mana back to just barely let me get a jump back, but i might not have really needed it anymore at that point (i might have been safe already).

i use mana aggressively and i usually regen a ton and it's fine. also being able to use bash instead of retreat (due to shielding bash), or just take an extra hit, would sometimes let me regen extra mana. so i now think the +20 mana talent might be a mistake, and a third heart might actually be better (a third heart isn't amazing either, so this is a close call).

i need to keep going and see how much harder it gets and get more used to later levels. being able to fit shielding bash in would be good but i don't know what else i could drop besides maybe mighty bash. reaction could only be dropped if i got level 2 shielding bash. i guess 5th range isn't absolutely required, it's really nice though.


curi at 2:52 PM on July 26, 2018 | #10443 | reply | quote

skool sux

new vid. skool sux. clips and comments. https://youtu.be/JhIpW4H-3SQ


curi at 7:38 PM on July 26, 2018 | #10444 | reply | quote

Another example of how psychiatry thwarts the rule of law:

https://twitter.com/PamelaGeller/status/1022674700361654272

> Canada: “Mentally ill” Muslim found “not criminally responsible” for STABBING three soldiers in army recruiting centre, “ALLAH told me to do it”: He is allowed to return to his community. Sickening. http://dlvr.it/QcvsGV


Anonymous at 8:45 PM on July 26, 2018 | #10445 | reply | quote

Horowitz Freedom Center Newsletter writes:

> Congressman Keith Ellison — a good friend of Jew hating, anti-white Louis Farrakhan — is demanding Amazon ban the Freedom Center from selling our books and pamphlets.

jeez.

prominent dem politicians with no respect for the first amendment.


Anonymous at 8:56 PM on July 26, 2018 | #10446 | reply | quote

Breitbart News liked your Tweet

I particularly liked my tweet, too :)


curi at 9:12 AM on July 27, 2018 | #10447 | reply | quote

RIP free speech and Western values in Sydney.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqY4Z1fTrMc


Anonymous at 9:20 AM on July 27, 2018 | #10448 | reply | quote

HorowitzCenter and more are shadowbanned on twitter.

https://twitter.com/j_mallone/status/1022820066323251200


Anonymous at 10:35 AM on July 27, 2018 | #10449 | reply | quote

Constant Contact shuts down VDare account due to "white supremacy" https://twitter.com/vdare/status/1022910090121277440?s=21


Anonymous at 11:30 AM on July 27, 2018 | #10450 | reply | quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTAWaWMeB8c

Stefan Molyneux says "SCHOOL SUCKS". Decent video, especially the first few minutes. He goes off on some tangents and repeats some stuff later on.


Anonymous at 11:52 AM on July 27, 2018 | #10451 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 12:00 PM on July 27, 2018 | #10452 | reply | quote

"I swear by my life and my love it, that I am my brother's keeper, and he is mine"


Anonymous at 12:01 PM on July 27, 2018 | #10453 | reply | quote

> "I swear by my life and my love it, that I am my brother's keeper, and he is mine"

And I'll make him be mine, whether he likes it or not, and no matter what country he's from because I don't want the left to think I'm a racist.


Anonymous at 12:02 PM on July 27, 2018 | #10454 | reply | quote

> because I don't want the left to think I'm a racist.

Or even say it, dishonestly. Do they even think? Do they actually *think* their targets are racists? Can they meaningfully think such a thing given their unwillingness to think about what "racism" is?

These people call you a racist if you say you don't think racial groups (and other groups, e.g. refugees) should get special treatment.


Anonymous at 12:04 PM on July 27, 2018 | #10455 | reply | quote

brooooooooooooo I realised what your problem is.


Anonymous at 12:12 PM on July 27, 2018 | #10456 | reply | quote

It's that you lack the austrian spirit. Die Österreichische Geist.

This is the thing that prevents you from understanding Popper, Mises, Hayek and all those other people.

You just don't get it. You don't understand the culture it all came from.


Anonymous at 12:14 PM on July 27, 2018 | #10457 | reply | quote

#10457 What do I (who?) misunderstand about Popper or Mises?

With Hayek I presume you consider *disliking* him to be misunderstanding. But I like Mises and Popper, so I don't even know what you're talking about.

Maybe you're bad at communicating because you have the austrian spirit instead of the anglo English-speaking spirit.


Anonymous at 12:51 PM on July 27, 2018 | #10458 | reply | quote

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/culture-war-turns-expression-and-free-speech-into-weapon/

> In a culture-war world, it is inescapable that everything becomes a weapon.

Stupid opener. It's kinda like a tautology. In an X-world, X is inescapable.


Anonymous at 1:16 PM on July 27, 2018 | #10459 | reply | quote

kinda interesting article about a semi-right-winger and how he differs from the left he used to be more a part of.

https://areomagazine.com/2018/03/11/a-liberal-who-remembers/


Anonymous at 3:23 PM on July 27, 2018 | #10460 | reply | quote

I want to live in a world where 4.1% is shit. Why can't we have 10%?

Also a world where people don't make such a big deal out of GPD since, as is well know, it's a crappy, misleading, flawed stat. Use some better stats. Or if your only stats are terrible, don't use them and just admit you don't know.


Anonymous at 3:35 PM on July 27, 2018 | #10461 | reply | quote

> Why can't we have 10%?

Cuz of anti-capitalism.

Progress would certainly more than double if we had pretty pure capitalism and minimal government. 10% wouldn't even be that would. There's way more than a factor of 3 loss from the destructive policies we have now.


Anonymous at 3:37 PM on July 27, 2018 | #10462 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 3:55 PM on July 27, 2018 | #10463 | reply | quote

> WORCESTER, Mass. — A freshman tentatively raises her hand and takes the microphone. "I'm really scared to ask this," she begins. "When I, as a white female, listen to music that uses the N-word, and I'm in the car, or, especially when I'm with all white friends, is it OK to sing along?"

> The answer, from Sheree Marlowe, the new chief diversity officer at Clark University, is an unequivocal "no."

> The exchange was included in Marlowe's presentation to recently arriving first-year students focusing on subtle "microaggressions," part of a new campus vocabulary that also includes "safe spaces" and "trigger warnings."

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2016/09/06/college-campuses-cautiously-train-freshmen-against-subtle-insults/


Anonymous at 4:59 PM on July 27, 2018 | #10464 | reply | quote

#10464 shut your mouth, shut your mind, and learn to obey


Anonymous at 5:03 PM on July 27, 2018 | #10465 | reply | quote

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/399278-trump-had-repeatedly-asked-aides-to-ban-reporters-before-cnn-incident

Trump sucks at tyranny; has to fight with staff to get even a single reporter banned from WH

To compare, here is some stuff about press relations under Obama:

https://twitter.com/almostjingo/status/1022297569337077765?s=21

read the thread there's a ton of examples


Anonymous at 5:27 PM on July 27, 2018 | #10466 | reply | quote

#10466 jeez i read a bunch. this is the worst one:

https://twitter.com/almostjingo/status/1022314561930579968


Anonymous at 5:33 PM on July 27, 2018 | #10467 | reply | quote

> Perhaps the buzziest money-loser of the year is MoviePass, which has upended the film industry by essentially giving away millions of free movie tickets. Until recently, MoviePass members could pay $9.95 for a monthly subscription that allowed them to watch up to one movie per day in theaters, with MoviePass paying the face value of the ticket on a preloaded debit card. Since the average cost of a movie ticket in the United States is around $9, going to just two movies per month resulted in a good deal for the customer, and a loss for the company. (MoviePass has started placing more restrictions on which films its customers can see, perhaps in an effort to trim costs.)

> MoviePass’s business model — which Slate described as “creatively lighting money aflame in order to subsidize the movie-going habits of some 3 million customers” — has turbocharged its growth. And the company maintains that it can make money by striking revenue-sharing deals with theater chains, or charging movie studios to advertise inside its app

Wtf kinda biz model is this

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978555&mc=99&forum_id=2#36064261


Anonymous at 5:34 PM on July 27, 2018 | #10468 | reply | quote

#10468 lol @ this xoxo comment. i don't think other ppl will appreciate it but i think you will:

> A cinema is attended


Anonymous at 5:36 PM on July 27, 2018 | #10469 | reply | quote

> #10468 lol @ this xoxo comment. i don't think other ppl will appreciate it but i think you will:

>> A cinema is attended

I forgot what this reference is about

Btw https://twitter.com/slickdeals/status/1023007651934945280?s=21


Anonymous at 5:54 PM on July 27, 2018 | #10470 | reply | quote

#10470 dumb, indirect, passive voice. like the username "A Jurisprudence is Performed"


Anonymous at 6:06 PM on July 27, 2018 | #10471 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 8:12 PM on July 27, 2018 | #10472 | reply | quote

Updated Twitter profile. One emoji per thing instead of two. Added MAGA.


curi at 9:29 PM on July 27, 2018 | #10473 | reply | quote

#10473 von Mises hated money.


Anonymous at 5:40 AM on July 28, 2018 | #10474 | reply | quote

#10474 no, he loved money. since you're being pedantic, you ought to remember the difference between money and paper money.

did you have a positive suggestion for a better emoji? there's no gold bar.


Anonymous at 8:22 AM on July 28, 2018 | #10475 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 8:35 AM on July 28, 2018 | #10476 | reply | quote

Standard, good red pill tips:

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2018/07/20/the-male-sexuality-shaming-shit-test/

It's interesting how the guy with the newbie question says:

> I know the correct answer is

and then says the socially-normie totally-wrong blue pill answer.


Anonymous at 9:50 AM on July 28, 2018 | #10477 | reply | quote

#10463 Another indication twitter deleted a lot of bots, not MAGAs. They apparently deleted way more Obama followers than Trump followers:

https://twitter.com/JohnRLottJr/status/1023272920049758215

> Interesting that Obama had about 10xs more fake followers on Twitter than President Trump. Obama lost >3m followers while Trump lost 340K.


Anonymous at 11:27 AM on July 28, 2018 | #10478 | reply | quote

great behind the scenes content from the Overwatch League Finals:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzdB3zGgXh8

(has day 1 spoilers)


Anonymous at 12:35 PM on July 28, 2018 | #10479 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 6:23 PM on July 28, 2018 | #10487 | reply | quote

Lots of negative words are also used as positive words. They're still used as negative words, too. Examples:

Sick, nasty, bad, ridiculous, disgusting, crazy, insane.

Why?


Anonymous at 6:46 PM on July 28, 2018 | #10489 | reply | quote

Ugh. Well, as I've said before, he's on a 4 year clock (NOT 8 years). He really, really, really should have built a wall already. But the end of his term is the hard limit on reasonable patience.


Anonymous at 7:00 PM on July 28, 2018 | #10490 | reply | quote

#10476 Besides making up McDonalds food symptoms, people also do this:

See also, the history of "hysteria" (read Szasz books covering history, like Manufacture of Madness).


Anonymous at 7:04 PM on July 28, 2018 | #10491 | reply | quote

#10492

> The problem is, of course, that parents are not the ones who would actually be subjected to my interventions. The children, my patients, don’t get to choose. And it isn’t fair to treat parents’ worry through the vulnerable bodies of their children.

:)


Anonymous at 7:10 PM on July 28, 2018 | #10493 | reply | quote

#10493

> Both groups got better. The antibiotics didn’t work any better than the placebos, though. Placebos are highly effective for many conditions, and have been shown to enact neurophysiological change in patients exposed to them. That is, placebos can change your brain. The reason that new drugs are tested against a placebo is precisely because placebos work so well—if a drug is more effective than a placebo, it’s pretty good.

this paragraph sucks


Anonymous at 7:18 PM on July 28, 2018 | #10494 | reply | quote

Risking getting blocked:


Anonymous at 7:20 PM on July 28, 2018 | #10495 | reply | quote

Twitter cut too much off the quote so it's confusing.


Anonymous at 7:21 PM on July 28, 2018 | #10496 | reply | quote

#10495 This relates to an ongoing policy I was thinking about today:

In general, I'm highly responsive to requests, but not very responsive to unstated preferences that people seem to want me to guess and then act on (while they, often, would deny it being their preference, even as they would be upset if I didn't act on it).

I think this is a good policy. I am open to criticism about this policy. But the people who dislike this policy aren't exactly the types to state criticism...


curi at 7:23 PM on July 28, 2018 | #10497 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 11:12 PM on July 28, 2018 | #10498 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 9:32 AM on July 29, 2018 | #10499 | reply | quote

https://t.co/I6WZ3LAvk0

Steve Bannon says:

> “Absolutely. The main two differences between right-wing populism here and in Europe is that in Europe, even my right-wing brothers in Italy, they still look to the state for solutions. The question there is just who controls the state. Here, right-wing populism under Trump, Trumpism, is fundamentally different. It strives to take the state’s long tentacles out of the lives of working citizens.”


Anonymous at 11:12 AM on July 29, 2018 | #10500 | reply | quote

https://twitter.com/usatodaymoney/status/1023678822305038336?s=21

Presuming they give u MacCoins when u get a Big Mac for a dollar using daily app coupon, Big Macs are gonna be the best deal at McDonald's deal at mcdonalds


Anonymous at 5:00 AM on July 30, 2018 | #10501 | reply | quote

Meanwhile, the media are lying about Lakemba:

https://youtu.be/x9MgCE933w8

(Interesting tidbit at the end: Stefan didn't think Lauren going to Lakemba would be productive. He admits he was wrong. But what bad judgment he had in the first place! Good thing Lauren is there to be the brains of the operation.)


Anonymous at 7:32 AM on July 30, 2018 | #10503 | reply | quote

http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=26155

> Quiz Israel out of existence - and win $50-$100!

> PA TV quiz rewards Palestinians who deny Israel's existence

PA = Palestinian Authority (maybe the West shouldn't fund them!?)


Anonymous at 7:38 AM on July 30, 2018 | #10504 | reply | quote

Maybe I should make pagination for comments. I don't like being forced into a paged view, but it could be a good *option* instead of making a new open discussion post periodically. It could be enabled only if there are 200+ comments, or something like that, and have a "show all" button right next to the page links (which would be at both the top and bottom of the comments section).


Anonymous at 10:16 AM on July 30, 2018 | #10506 | reply | quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs

leftist ranting about Trump's victory. interesting. lots of blame on Hillary. says that the polls were wrong because "we" (the left) suppress people saying what they really think. says that lots of Trump voters weren't racists and flaming people doesn't win elections.


Anonymous at 11:24 AM on July 30, 2018 | #10510 | reply | quote

#10510 note the video presents itself as unscripted and off-the-cuff, but it's actually scripted. the speaker is an actor, but also genuinely is a lefty. (in my understanding from doing too little research to know much about him)


Anonymous at 11:28 AM on July 30, 2018 | #10511 | reply | quote

This is an interesting video. It's the same guy from the above video, but in a real interview, unscripted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA6OwzQ-P1Q

He's arguing with a lefty, and he concedes all kinds of false stuff, but he still argues some points about free speech and the use of ad hominem identity politics in debates, and he's *so reasonable* when he challenges the left (they are carefully limited challenges) and the lefty interviewer won't give any ground.


Anonymous at 11:35 AM on July 30, 2018 | #10512 | reply | quote

https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/07/29/review-the-2018-macbook-pro-with-i9-processor-is-the-fastest-laptop-apple-has-ever-made-but-it-could-be-better

> We've said it before —we think Apple got hosed by Intel, when they were gearing up for the 2016 MacBook Pro enclosure in 2015. We know that in 2015, Intel was promising delivery of 10nm process Core chips well before now, and even smaller by 2018.

> Coffee Lake is unapologetically still 14nm. Intel hasn't set a delivery target in seven years that it hasn't broken by months or years.

...

> Regarding MagSafe, we've been testing USB-C for a very long time at this point. On a melamine, Corian, or finished wood desk surface, the force required to pull out Apple's USB-C charging cable is about three-quarters of what it takes to break a MagSafe 2 connection, when the cable is pulled from less than a 40-degree angle from center on the horizontal plane, and less than 30 degrees from center on the vertical.

...

> Apple's service numbers that we've collated bear this out. MagSafe's introduction in January 2006 halved accidental damage service calls by 2009. There was no change in those numbers for MagSafe 2. But, in the two years since the MacBook Pro was released, there has been no increase in the accidental damage rate at all —and possibly a decrease, but we'll wait another year to fully declare that.


Anonymous at 12:23 PM on July 30, 2018 | #10513 | reply | quote

> Is COBOL holding you hostage with Math?

https://medium.com/@bellmar/is-cobol-holding-you-hostage-with-math-5498c0eb428b

interesting article on why COBOL is still used, the tradeoffs, and fixed point math.


Anonymous at 1:17 PM on July 30, 2018 | #10514 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 1:48 PM on July 30, 2018 | #10515 | reply | quote

https://www.meforum.org/articles/2018/islamic-relief-fails-to-disprove-terror-links

> The Middle East Forum (MEF) has decisively responded to a letter sent by Islamic Relief USA to members of Congress denying allegations made in a recent MEF report – and subsequently cited in testimony before the House Oversight Committee’s National Security Subcommittee – that outline the charitable franchise’s links to extremism and terror.

why does this matter?

> Founded in 1984 in Birmingham, England, Islamic Relief, with branches in over 20 countries, is the largest Islamic charity in the West. It has received at least $80 million over the past ten years from Western governments and international bodies, including the United Nations. It received more than $700,000 from U.S. taxpayers during the past two years. Its officials are members of government advisory panels, while Western cabinet ministers, European royalty, and Trump administration officials speak at its events.

an example of one the issues and what the debate is like, cuz jfc:

> MEF has now published its own response, showing that every single one of IR-USA’s denials is merely a sidestep or deception.

> IR-USA, for example, states that the Islamic Zakat Society (IZS) in Gaza, a key partner of the Islamic Relief franchise, “is widely known for its apolitical stance, and its board members and senior staff have no known affiliation with Hamas.”

> This is simply untrue. MEF’s response notes that IZS’s own website describes itself as “soldiers for Jerusalem,” and calls on Palestinians to “support the family of the martyr” and support the struggle for the “captive Jerusalem.” In 2009, IZS organized a student event at which the keynote speaker was Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum, who declared that students would “return our lands to us” … through “jihadist force.” Top IZS official Hazem Al-Sirraj, meanwhile, is a prominent cleric in Gaza who studied under the Hamas founder Sheikh Ahmed Yassin. In 2010, Al-Sirraj was the keynote speaker at a Hamas conference in Gaza for the “sons of Hamas,” including Hamas “founders, scientists, politicians and academics.”

full details are available at the linked article + the links at the bottom of it


Anonymous at 2:56 PM on July 30, 2018 | #10516 | reply | quote

https://mailchi.mp/ben-evans/benedicts-newsletter-no-450589?e=6d10385a84

> The ACLU did a publicity stunt in which it got Amazon's cloud facial recognition service to falsely identify US congressmen as criminals, by matching their pictures against a mugshot database. Amazon points out that machine learning is a probabilistic technology, that the ACLU set the tool to 80% confidence (not, say, 99%), and that the sample image set was biased, all of which is true but also, of course, the point: if you are not rigorous in thinking about what parameters you use and what bias might be in the data set, then you will get lots of inaccuracies. Machine learning is not magic, the computer can be wrong, and one should not take the results of any such system on trust. Equally, of course, claiming as the ACLU does that this is 'flawed and dangerous' is also to miss the point: it's a tool with probabilistic outcomes that you can use or mis-use, and more importantly understand or misunderstand. Link


Anonymous at 3:08 PM on July 30, 2018 | #10517 | reply | quote

unicode has some junk/mistake characters in it.

https://www.dampfkraft.com/ghost-characters.html

> You'd think that listing the source would make tracking down the origins of the characters easy, but it's important to clarify what counts as a "source" - one of the more common sources for the ghost characters was the "Overview of National Administrative Districts" (国土行政区画総覧), a comprehensive list of place names in Japan. You might, as I initially did, imagine this to be a kind of atlas, an oversize book with at most a few hundred pages. It turns out the latest edition is a seven volume set with each volume having roughly nine hundred pages. Imagine tracking down a single character without a page reference.

...

> 妛 was an error introduced while trying to record "山 over 女". "山 over 女" occurs in the name of a particular place and was thus suitable for inclusion in the JIS standard, but because they couldn't print it as one character yet, 山 and 女 were printed separately, cut out, and pasted onto a sheet of paper, and then copied. When reading the copy, the line where the two little pieces of paper met looked like a stroke and was added to the character by mistake.


Anonymous at 4:08 PM on July 30, 2018 | #10518 | reply | quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CgjGH2ddmI

I'm finding it very amusing to hear an *analytical* person doing *analysis* of people's looks.


Anonymous at 5:08 PM on July 30, 2018 | #10519 | reply | quote

#10519 oh shit i got to the end and the #3 and #2 were serious, and then the #1 was hilarious trolling.


Anonymous at 5:13 PM on July 30, 2018 | #10520 | reply | quote

the style of *Human Action* (by Mises) is very slow and careful. very anti-*overreaching*. it’s an example of how far you can get while mostly just keeping it simple and not fucking up. he's constantly putting together simple, almost "obvious" stuff, using basic logic, and not straying further into harder stuff. yet he says a lot and corrects so many people.


curi at 5:59 PM on July 30, 2018 | #10521 | reply | quote

#10521 it's a *great* book. a huge achievement. it's long and has a low error rate. most thinkers would have a hard time writing one page with that low an error rate without being boring/pointless, and Mises manages to do it consistently for hundreds of pages that have connections between the ideas (the pages work together, instead of being independent, which makes it harder).


Anonymous at 6:02 PM on July 30, 2018 | #10522 | reply | quote

Mises breaks things down and goes step by step. He also does a good job of organizing the book into sections and sub-sections.


Anonymous at 6:03 PM on July 30, 2018 | #10523 | reply | quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT0WlbXLpXM

Yaron Brook attacked Charles Tew. Charles Tew comments.


Anonymous at 9:47 PM on July 30, 2018 | #10524 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 9:51 PM on July 30, 2018 | #10525 | reply | quote

omnipotent government

"Omnipotent government" is a book by von mises about why ww2 started. I've read about 3/4 of it. It's a very good book. Its explains how socialism and interveventionism helped lead to the war. It's a lot better than the work of people who currently claim to represent him at the Mises Institute.


oh my god it's turpentine at 10:15 PM on July 30, 2018 | #10526 | reply | quote

thx for the tip, i'll check if i've read that one or not. i've been rereading Human Action currently.

> It's a lot better than the work of people who currently claim to represent him at the Mises Institute.

aren't basically ALL his books better than what the current "Mises" (Rothbard) Institute ppl can write?


Anonymous at 10:18 PM on July 30, 2018 | #10527 | reply | quote

i don't think i read Omnipotent Government.

preface:

> IN dealing with the problems of social and economic policies, the social sciences consider only one question: whether the measures suggested are really suited to bringing about the effects sought by their authors, or whether they result in a state of affairs which—from the viewpoint of their supporters—is even more undesirable than the previous state which it was intended to alter. The economist does not substitute his own judgment about the desirability of ultimate ends for that of his fellow citizens. He merely asks whether the ends sought by nations, governments, political parties, and pressure groups can indeed be attained by the methods actually chosen for their realization.

I don't agree with Mises about this. I think economics **can** do this, and *commonly* does, and it's a great, valuable thing to be able to do. But I don't think it's the **only** thing economics and the social sciences can productively deal with and do.

> It is, to be sure, a thankless task. Most people are intolerant of any criticism of their social and economic tenets.

:) @ mises saying it. :( @ it being true

> They do not understand that the objections raised refer only to unsuitable methods and do not dispute the ultimate ends of their efforts.

The economic ideas and objections raised by Mises are helpful for people, like Rand and myself, who *do* dispute their ultimate ends.

I think Mises is mistaken to expect to be judged with such neutrality. His ideas have consequences. Those consequences are good for everyone in the same way Objectivism and TCS are, but I don't agree Mises is fully in a separate category (I can agree his work *partly* is). It's unsurprising for these things to be viciously opposed by people who don't understand them and see a threat.

> They are not prepared to admit the possibility that they might attain their ends more easily by following the economists’ advice than by disregarding it.

Mises is ignoring or underestimating or something the extent to which people have bad ends. Ultimately, in the long run, if they sorted out enough of the contradictions between their ends, and learned enough, and fixed enough of their static memes, and so on, we expect they would settle on Objectivism, capitalism, etc. but they don't know that and they aren't there yet and in the mean time they have all kinds of ends that are bad and which are incompatible with Mises' worldview. Right now they want X and Y. If they understood Mises, they'd stop wanting X, start wanting Z, and learn a better way to get Y. They see this as a threat to X, not a way to help them get X. It sorta is ... but they'd be better off in their own judgment in the new situation. But that's hard to understand.


curi at 10:40 PM on July 30, 2018 | #10528 | reply | quote

I updated the FI book recommendations page by adding this paragraph:

Note: *If you don't like a book, stop reading it*. Ask a question about it, share a criticism, or try something else. If it's too difficult, *stop reading* and seek help or try something else. Reading books you don't like, or don't understand, won't help you. Book recommendations are a *starting point*, but it's up to you to evaluate the book for yourself after you've read some (specifically evaluate its value to you right now, not its value in general).


curi at 10:50 PM on July 30, 2018 | #10529 | reply | quote

Thomas Sowell on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/ThomasSowell/status/1023977297228046336

> “One of the most pathetic—and dangerous—signs of our times is the growing number of individuals and groups who believe that no one can possibly disagree with them for any honest reason.”


Anonymous at 10:59 PM on July 30, 2018 | #10530 | reply | quote

#10530 oh wtf. it's NOT Sowell. it uses his name, photo and handle, but then admits being a fake in the profile. but that may actually be a quote from the real Sowell.

impersonator accounts should have an indicator that's visible without reading the profile text. really bad of him to do this, IMO.


Anonymous at 11:01 PM on July 30, 2018 | #10531 | reply | quote

Satire can't keep up with reality anymore:

https://twitter.com/OrwellNGoode/status/1024093165916233728


oh my god it's turpentine at 11:22 PM on July 30, 2018 | #10532 | reply | quote

#10532 there's a serious article saying that lesbians should learn to give blow jobs because some women have penises.


Anonymous at 11:49 PM on July 30, 2018 | #10533 | reply | quote

Have any of you read DIM Hypothesis? Did you like it? I read some and got bored. Same with Ominous Parallels. Does anyone know something I'm missing?


Anonymous at 11:55 PM on July 30, 2018 | #10534 | reply | quote

Free iOS camera app (pay attention to instructions)

https://slickdeals.net/share/iphone_app/t/11882827


Anonymous at 6:58 AM on July 31, 2018 | #10535 | reply | quote

> Psychiatry is an absolute sham, an excuse to horrifically abuse children:

>

> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5992551/Barbara-OHare-opens-abuse-hands-Dr-Kenneth-Milner.html

That report says nothing about psychiatry. What it does say is how easy it was - and to a large extent still is - for child abusers to use the system for their own ends.


Anonymous at 7:46 AM on July 31, 2018 | #10536 | reply | quote

Ryan Waggoner email newsletter today begins:

> Hi there,

> When I was a teenager, my dad used to say that nothing good happens after midnight.

> I know, he sounds fun, right?

> But in this case, he was correct, because enrollment for Freelance250k closes tonight at midnight :)

How can such transparent and stupid social crap work on people?


Anonymous at 8:54 AM on July 31, 2018 | #10537 | reply | quote

http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=26161

> Belgian funded PA school still named after terrorist mass murderer

> PA ignores Belgian demands to change name, yet Belgian funding of the PA continues unabated


Anonymous at 8:55 AM on July 31, 2018 | #10538 | reply | quote

Anonymous at 9:46 AM on July 31, 2018 | #10539 | reply | quote

> #10532 there's a serious article saying that lesbians should learn to give blow jobs because some women have penises.

related:


Anonymous at 10:33 AM on July 31, 2018 | #10540 | reply | quote

https://www.wsj.com/articles/top-u-s-universities-back-harvard-in-affirmative-action-case-1532977076

> “Educational institutions have the requisite expertise and the right to make the inherently academic judgments on how to set criteria for their student admissions and in particular, what kind, quality, or extent of diversity will best enhance the educational experience of students and allow those students to flourish,” they wrote. “It would be an extraordinary infringement on universities’ academic freedom to decree that institutions of higher education cannot consider race at all in seeking to obtain that diversity,” they said.

Racist universities explicitly rejecting a race-blind, skin-color-blind approach to dealing with people.


Anonymous at 11:09 AM on July 31, 2018 | #10541 | reply | quote

https://hbr.org/2018/07/want-less-biased-decisions-use-algorithms

> Thanks to the pioneering work of Paul Meehl (and follow-up work by Robyn Dawes), we have known since at least the 1950s that very simple mathematical models outperform supposed experts at predicting important outcomes in clinical settings.


Anonymous at 1:17 PM on July 31, 2018 | #10542 | reply | quote

> A few months ago, VDARE.com Editor Peter Brimelow asked me if I might review neoconservative #NeverTrumper Jonah Goldberg’s new book, Suicide of the West. I value my free time highly, so I was pretty dubious—Jonah Goldberg, who has been a media-touted professional token Conservative for all of my life (he’s Gen X, I’m Gen Y), has never to my knowledge said anything interesting, and there are plenty of books I would like to read that are certain to be good. I promptly wrote back to Mr. Brimelow: “I just checked on Amazon and Jonah Goldberg's new book is 464 pages long. I wouldn't be willing to read that for less than a ridiculous sum that I wouldn't accept from anyone to just read a useless book and review it.” Mr. Brimelow dropped the matter after that, and the brilliant Paul Gottfried reviewed it for VDARE.com instead.

> Then, more recently, Mr. Brimelow emailed me a mixed review of the book [Jonah Goldberg’s Burkean Turn, June 26, 2018] by Matt Purple at The American Conservative and asked me again if I might review it. While I am aware of the longstanding tradition of writers shamelessly reviewing books without reading them (two brilliant writers, George Orwell and Joe Sobran, both did this, the former even writing an amusing essay about the practice.), I think this practice is detestable, and hope to never do it. So I replied to Mr. Brimelow: “Ugh. I'd be willing to write you an amusing polemical article-length explanation as to why I am not willing to read/review it. That's the best offer I can give.”

> And incredibly, Mr. Brimelow said “Sure.” So, dear reader, here we are.

lol @ the topic counter offer and it being accepted

https://vdare.com/articles/no-peter-brimelow-i-am-not-reviewing-jonah-expletive-deleted-goldberg-s-new-book


Anonymous at 4:57 PM on July 31, 2018 | #10543 | reply | quote

#10543

> Mr. Goldberg’s thesis, gleaned from reviews and his endless electronic media appearances, is that the biggest thing (if not the only thing) that makes “the West” great are our Enlightenment/Lockean/Classical Liberal values.

and these values are under attack by the tribalist left and the tribalist right, but good old Mr. Goldberg has figured out the golden mean of non-extremist values. (this is a joke b/c the golden mean is a pre-enlightenment greek idea)

> This argument is retarded because of mankind’s historical record between the late seventeenth century (when Mr. Goldberg marks the emergence of his preferred values), and the 1960s. During these 300 or so years, each and every Lockean, free marketer, Classical Liberal, and Enlightenment proponent was a “tribalist” by Mr. Goldberg’s standards—and “racist” by the standards of basically everyone alive today.

Nah, it's dumber than that.

what about greece, rome, and the renaissance? what about the magna carta?

there were good things before the enlightenment, so ummm yeah...


Anonymous at 5:25 PM on July 31, 2018 | #10544 | reply | quote

I'd like to see the evidence that Burke and Godwin – hell and Mises and Rand who wrote things before 1960 – were racists by *my* standards (me being a person alive today).


Anonymous at 5:34 PM on July 31, 2018 | #10545 | reply | quote

#10543 the stuff you quote is amusing but it's kinda dumb too. he could read that book like 5 hours if he was good at reading (500 wpm). or he could have just read like a chapter, or started reading the chapter until he had enough quotes to yell at, or just skimmed around for interesting parts. with skill, he should be able to get plenty of quotes for an article in an hour (not a proper review article, maybe more of a fisking instead of just excuses for not reading it).


Anonymous at 5:44 PM on July 31, 2018 | #10546 | reply | quote

http://thehill.com/regulation/labor/399690-doj-labor-dept-to-target-employers-that-discriminate-against-americans-by

> The Departments of Justice (DOJ) and Labor announced an agreement Tuesday to work together in cracking down on companies that "discriminate" against U.S. workers by hiring foreign workers.

> The DOJ’s Civil Rights Division and the Labor Department will start sharing information on employers, refer issues to the appropriate officials at each department and offer training to each other’s staff under the agreement.

> Acting Assistant Attorney General John Gore said in a statement that the agreement will help the civil rights division’s “ability to identify employers the favor temporary visa holders over U.S. workers who can do the job.”

> ADVERTISEMENT

> “Employers should hire workers based on their skills, experience, and authorization to work; not based on discriminatory preferences that violate the law,” he said.

> Rosemary Lahasky, the deputy assistant secretary for Labor's employment and training administration, said in a statement that sharing the information “will help protect U.S. workers from unlawful discrimination.”


Anonymous at 6:13 PM on July 31, 2018 | #10547 | reply | quote

#10546 I agree that he could get plenty of quotes for an article with some skill.


Anonymous at 6:33 PM on July 31, 2018 | #10548 | reply | quote

Why do people use Medium?

PS

https://medium.com/topic/politics

Judging by a few dozen headlines, ~all articles on major political issues are anti-Trump.


Anonymous at 8:14 PM on July 31, 2018 | #10549 | reply | quote

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/origins-of-second-civil-war-globalism-tech-boom-immigration-campus-radicalism/

> In the 1980s, the universities embraced two antithetical agendas, both costly and reliant on borrowed money. On the one hand, campuses competed for scarcer students by styling themselves as Club Med–type resorts with costly upscale dorms, tony student-union centers, lavish gyms, and an array of in loco parentis social services. The net effect was to make colleges responsible not so much for education, but more for shielding now-fragile youth from the supposed reactionary forces that would buffet them after graduation.

is that true? is that new? is that a change that started in the 80's?


Anonymous at 10:00 AM on August 1, 2018 | #10550 | reply | quote

https://www.meforum.org/articles/2018/tommy-robinson-free-mef-heavily-involved

> Tommy Robinson Free – MEF [Middle East Forum, with Daniel Pipes as president] Heavily Involved


Anonymous at 10:19 AM on August 1, 2018 | #10551 | reply | quote

Apple reported earnings and the stock went up 5%. Mac sales were down, probably due to lack of updates to Mac models (MacBook Pros just got updated, but that was after the period reported; more updates will come this fall presumably).

Apple bought back lots of stock contrary to media fears. It has a low price/earnings ratio:

https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/08/01/while-wall-street-quacked-about-killing-iphone-x-apple-quietly-bought-back-435b-in-its-own-stock


Anonymous at 12:22 PM on August 1, 2018 | #10552 | reply | quote

Netflix made a great Rome show:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Empire_(TV_series)

I just finished season 2.

It has a narrator and sometimes it cuts to modern scholars saying things about Rome. It's kinda a live action show, but with documentary stuff too. It's a good mix. I like the style.

I also especially liked HBO's Rome show from 5-10 years ago. It was way better than Game of Thrones.


curi at 1:45 PM on August 1, 2018 | #10553 | reply | quote

new reddit SUCKS. it is laggy to scroll up and down on a good computer, probably because of all the autoplaying videos. and compare how much content you can see on one page:

old:

new:

new with mostly non-video non-image posts:


Anonymous at 7:18 PM on August 1, 2018 | #10554 | reply | quote

> Conservatism's Hidden History

http://www.danielpipes.org/18452/conservativism-hidden-history

this perspective is worth being aware of. but Burke was a liberal. you could call it the reformer liberals vs. the utopian radical liberals.


Anonymous at 2:35 PM on August 2, 2018 | #10555 | reply | quote

https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/1/17639656/uber-lyft-bailout-nyc-taxi-drivers-cap

> Lyft, Uber, and Via proposed a $100 million fund for underwater medallion owners, but the [NYC] mayor and the City Council said no thanks


Anonymous at 2:38 PM on August 2, 2018 | #10556 | reply | quote

someone humorously imagined what Trump reading the Sarah Jeong tweets at an upcoming Trump rally might be like

(background here http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/02/new-york-times-sarah-jeong-racist/)

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4040724&forum_id=2#36542735

> "folks, remember the Mexican rapists? the famous rapists. i say some mexicans that are coming in are rapists, are bad hombres, and that's true, undeniable, and the media, the mainstream media, these lovely people back there *points*

> *crowd chants 'CNN sucks' for 3 minutes*

> ...oh boy, you guys are rough, rough stuff, how do you really feel huh? *chuckles and shakes head*

> Anyways so the famous rapists,

> *EXAGGERATED STIFF FORMAL VOICE*

> "Donald Trump said all Mexicans are rapists. Donald Trump said the Russians should hack the emails. Donald Trump Donald Trump*

> *BACK TO NORMAL TRUMP VOICE*

> ...right? Our fake news, our lovely fake news people, so they go bananas, they go bananas over my statement. But then this lady here, oh boy, I've got it right here

> *pulls several printed pages out of suit pocket*

> I've got it right here folks, oh boy, she's the newest hire for the New York Times. Listen, can you believe this? You're not gonna believe it. Sarah Jong, okay? Ms Jong, what does she say?

> Here's what she says on her tweets:

> 'Oh man, it's kind of sick how much joy I get out of being cruel to old white men'

> *crowd boos loudly*

> Can you imagine? I know, I know, terrible.

> Here's another one from Miss Jong:

> 'Are white people genetically predisposed to burn faster in the sun, thus logically being only fit to live underground like groveling goblins.'

> *BOOING INTENSIFIES*

> Amazing. New York Times Editorial board! *Trump waves papers* Was this her resume? Maybe it was her resume!

> I gotta read one more, okay, one more?

> Oh boy I can't even read this one, I see kids in the crowd folks, oh boy, well, I'll kinda reading it, okay? I'll kinda read it and you will get the idea. Not very presidential, but that's okay right?

> 'Dumbass....couldn't avoid that one, sorry, first word, don't know how else to say it....Dumbass f'n white people marking up the internet with their opinions...like dogs peeing and she didn't say peeing okay? but like dogs peeing on fire hydrants.'

> *BOOING INTENSIFIES FURTHER*

> It's a shame folks. And they complain when I call them the enemy of the people!"


Anonymous at 5:17 PM on August 2, 2018 | #10557 | reply | quote

> Netflix made a great Rome show:

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Empire_(TV_series)

> I just finished season 2.

> It has a narrator and sometimes it cuts to modern scholars saying things about Rome. It's kinda a live action show, but with documentary stuff too. It's a good mix. I like the style.

Great recommendation, thanks 🙏

Best part so far for me was when Caesar had a problem he solved by BUILDING A WALL. Then he had another problem and solved it by BUILDING ANOTHER WALL. Very inspirational 🙂


Anonymous at 5:41 PM on August 2, 2018 | #10558 | reply | quote

Context: Jeong wrote very racist, nasty tweets and got hired by NYT.


Anonymous at 10:22 AM on August 3, 2018 | #10559 | reply | quote

Ultimate Sarah Jeong racist tweet collection link:

https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/1025437806775226368


Anonymous at 8:33 PM on August 3, 2018 | #10560 | reply | quote

Elliot, you should read this:

http://geniusfamine.blogspot.com/


Anonymous at 5:53 AM on August 4, 2018 | #10561 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 8:34 AM on August 4, 2018 | #10562 | reply | quote

http://geniusfamine.blogspot.com/ says geniuses are like this:

> The Endogenous personality is the ‘inner’ Man; a person whose outlook on life is ‘inward.’ He is inner-directed, inner-driven, inner-motivated; one who uses inner modes of thinking, inner evaluations, in-tuition; one who is to a high degree autonomous, self-sufficient; one who is relatively indifferent to social pressures, influences and inducements.

And also says:

> Geniuses are altruistic, in the sense that their work is primarily for the good of the group; and not for the usual social rewards such as status, money, sex, and popularity.

This is silly. It says geniuses are self-oriented ... and that they work primarily for the good of the group.

These statements occur in close proximity near the beginning.

There are other silly things but I'll skim some more later.


curi at 8:45 AM on August 4, 2018 | #10563 | reply | quote

The quality of most political attacks is so low that Robert Spencer *routinely* gets mixed up for Richard Spencer.


Anonymous at 9:25 AM on August 4, 2018 | #10564 | reply | quote

From: https://yesornophilosophy.com/

> You could propose that knowledge always existed and was never originally created. God is eternal. That's not satisfactory either.

Why is that not satisfactory?


PAS at 12:20 PM on August 4, 2018 | #10565 | reply | quote

GREAT Tucker vid on Sarah Jeong and the racism of the left

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reE0Y7psEE0&feature=youtu.be


Anonymous at 3:41 PM on August 4, 2018 | #10566 | reply | quote

> From: https://yesornophilosophy.com/

>> You could propose that knowledge always existed and was never originally created. God is eternal. That's not satisfactory either.

> Why is that not satisfactory?

The context was the questions:

> *How can knowledge be created from non-knowledge? Where could knowledge come from originally?*

Saying it's eternal doesn't answer those questions. It's like half an answer to "originally" (answer: it didn't – but no explanation of how that's possible or what's going on there), and no answer at all to how new knowledge is created (by human intelligence, by biological evolution, etc).

If your goal is to explain how humans can think of new things like inventing spaceships, or explain where animal eyes came from (with their appearance of design), then saying "God is eternal" does not address the issue.


Anonymous at 5:56 PM on August 4, 2018 | #10567 | reply | quote

#10567 Thanks. I saw this as a variant of the question Christians typically ask about the universe, "Where did the universe come from originally if not God?"

To which my answer has been that we don't know. But God doesn't provide an answer either, since saying the universe came from God just pushes the question back one level: where did God come from?

They (Christians) find "God is eternal" to be a satisfactory answer to where God came from. I get stuck when they say it's satisfactory to them, and I say it's not to me.

I can anticipate a similar result with your answer about knowledge. They'd say something like "God is the explanation of how that's possible or what's going on there". And they'd say God is explained in the Bible, and I'd say it's an unsatisfactory explanation to me and they'd say it's satisfactory to them...stuck.


PAS at 6:36 PM on August 4, 2018 | #10568 | reply | quote

> GREAT Tucker vid on Sarah Jeong and the racism of the left

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reE0Y7psEE0&feature=youtu.be

Tucker the best TV news host? By far?


Anonymous at 9:58 PM on August 4, 2018 | #10569 | reply | quote

#10536

I had thee same view about it in the beginning, but the author does not use "altruism" properly. He is only referring to the outcome and not an intention.


Anonymous at 7:29 AM on August 5, 2018 | #10570 | reply | quote

>> GREAT Tucker vid on Sarah Jeong and the racism of the left

>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reE0Y7psEE0&feature=youtu.be

> Tucker the best TV news host? By far?

Who else is even in contention?

Like Hannity is okay but nowhere near same tier.

Maybe Ingraham is good? I haven't watched her show


Anonymous at 8:32 AM on August 5, 2018 | #10571 | reply | quote

From the xoxo archives: The Fall of Github

> not all companies are. github is kind of a tragic tale that's all-too-common in the valley of a well-meaning but naive white dork founder who gets browbeaten by the social justice crowd and continually caves to their demands until they finally decide to devour him.

> It started when some SJWs got upset that he had a rug in his office saying "In Meritocracy We Trust" which they claimed was their justification of 'white privilege' and an excuse for why there were so many white male engineers at Github. So they scrapped the rug and 'pledged to make changes' which really meant making diversity hires in a show of kissing the ring. Then there was this bizarre sexual harassment suit that got brought by one of the diversity hires that was ultimately revealed to be baseless, but by then the damage was done. because being accused of sexual harassment is almost as bad as actually committing it, he stepped down, and now people are claiming this whole thing is actually good for github because they're bringing in 'professionals' to 'clean up' the culture.

> What this will mean is: their best engineers will leave (the cream of the crop left long ago--these guys are very good at sussing out the social justice bullshit,) and the company will cling to life as it's overtaken by competitors. Github will be fine for a while before it begins its downward slide, however, and social justice types will parade around this as demonstrating how diversity/progressivism 'helps' companies.

> This also happened to the CEO of Mozilla (firefox.)

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3128202&forum_id=2#29814998


Anonymous at 8:33 AM on August 5, 2018 | #10572 | reply | quote

#10571

> Who else is even in contention?

i don't know, not a big TV watcher... i've seen some hannity, he's ok but not as good as tucker. and saw some bill o'reilly in the past, who was ok but not as good as tucker. others are generally awful, though i did largely enjoy stephen colbert's right wing persona (i think it's actually smarter than his real left wing persona).

what about online shows like crowder or levin? any great ones?


Anonymous at 10:14 AM on August 5, 2018 | #10573 | reply | quote

> I can anticipate a similar result with your answer about knowledge. They'd say something like "God is the explanation of how that's possible or what's going on there". And they'd say God is explained in the Bible, and I'd say it's an unsatisfactory explanation to me and they'd say it's satisfactory to them...stuck.

it helps if you get more specific. by what *mechanism* does God explain human intelligence? God created the universe and the laws of physics, and then biological evolution created humans that are intelligent *somehow* (God's role is kinda indirect/limited and doesn't help explain how intelligence works)? God personally/directly created intelligence originally (explains the origins, instead of evolution) ... and then it works according to and within the laws of physics? by being a computer running software? or is God involved in our thinking at all times, and if he disappeared we'd lose our intelligence? like our brains are computers but God is constantly changing some of the data, while it's running, in order to help us get intelligent instead of non-intelligent thoughts, and without that interference our brain software wouldn't work? does God do that for animals too – e.g. for a wolf's purposeful hunting behavior – or only for humans? or is there some other mechanism? or maybe there aren't consistent laws of physics, we live in a magical world where the rules keep changing depending on God's moods or decisions or something, and yet our intelligence seems to consistently work anyway, which is because ... what?


curi at 10:37 AM on August 5, 2018 | #10574 | reply | quote

> Anarchy Breaks Out in Portland, With the Mayor’s Blessing

> A vicious mob targeted the ICE office and even a food cart. The police followed orders to do nothing.

> Andy NgoAug. 3, 2018 5:24 p.m. ET

> Along the trolley tracks behind the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement field office, a biohazard cleanup crew works under police protection. It finds used needles and buckets of human waste simmering in nearly 100-degree heat. The smell of urine and feces fills the block. For more than five weeks, as many as 200 people had occupied the site to demand ICE’s immediate abolition. They’re gone now, but a community is left reeling. Thirty-eight days of government-sanctioned anarchy will do that.

> A mob surrounded ICE’s office in Southwest Portland June 19. They barricaded the exits and blocked the driveway. They sent “guards” to patrol the doors, trapping workers inside. At night they laid on the street, stopping traffic at a critical junction near a hospital. Police stayed away. “At this time I am denying your request for additional resources,” the Portland Police Bureau’s deputy chief, Robert Day, wrote to federal officers pleading for help. Hours later, the remaining ICE workers were finally evacuated by a small federal police team. The facility shut down for more than a week.

> Signs called ICE employees “Nazis” and “white supremacists.” Others accused them of running a “concentration camp,” and demanded open borders and prosecution of ICE agents. Along a wall, vandals wrote the names of ICE staff, encouraging others to publish their private information online.

> Federal workers were defenseless. An ICE officer, who asked that his name not be published, told me one of his colleagues was trailed in a car and confronted when he went to pick up his daughter from summer camp. Later people showed up at his house. Another had his name and photo plastered on flyers outside his home accusing him of being part of the “Gestapo.”

> Where were the police? Ordered away by Democratic Mayor Ted Wheeler, who doubles as police commissioner. “I do not want the @PortlandPolice to be engaged or sucked into a conflict, particularly from a federal agency that I believe is on the wrong track,” he tweeted. “If [ICE is] looking for a bailout from this mayor, they are looking in the wrong place.”

> The mob set up camp behind the building, where they harassed journalists and banned photography. The open-borders advocates also erected an 8-foot wall around their site. I walked through and saw young children, including infants, in squalid conditions and 90-degree heat. Every American flag was defaced. Anarchist and communist flags were unsoiled.

> Stuart Lindquist, the ICE facility’s 79-year-old landlord, visited his property on June 21. “The political powers in the city of Portland have stopped the police from doing what they normally would do,” he told me. When he attempted to drive into the parking lot, occupiers swarmed and pounded his windows. In the commotion, Mr. Lindquist’s car struck someone in the mob, who wasn’t injured. His home address later appeared online, and he says the harassment hasn’t stopped.

> On June 28 federal police mobilized from out of state finally moved to reopen the office. They arrested a handful of people for refusing to leave the ICE office’s front, but the rest retreated to the camp and focused their vitriol on the officers. They repeatedly called a black officer “traitor” and “house n—.” They shouted that they knew where the officers lived, and published more addresses online.

> The same day Mayor Wheeler again pledged not to intervene. In a statement, he whitewashed the lawless behavior: “I join those outraged by ICE actions separating parents from their children, and support peaceful protest to give voice to our collective moral conscience.”

> The Hakes family, which owns the Happy Camper food cart across the street from ICE’s office, responded to the statement with incredulity. The mob “terrorized our family” and forced the business to close, Julie Hakes told me. Ms. Hakes showed me text messages from her 21-year-old daughter, Brianna, who ran the cart. “Just saw a drug deal,” Brianna reported early on. After members of the anti-ICE mob spotted her selling breakfast burritos to federal officers, the situation deteriorated. “Call me immediately!” Brianna wrote after being accused of “supporting the pigs” and “child deportation.” She said people wearing masks threatened to hurt her and burn down the cart, and the police never responded to their frantic calls.

> Randy Glary, a 52-year-old artist and longtime resident, was photographing the camp when he said a group of occupiers knocked his camera into his face. Charles Williams, a 62-year-old man who lives across the street, said someone threatened to stab him with an “AIDS-infected needle.” From his balcony, he saw the “thugs” begin masked street patrols. Others brandished sticks. Lisa Leonard, a 53-year-old disabled resident, said occupiers hit her on her head, disabled her electric wheelchair, and lifted her in the air when she complained about loud drumming. She called police, who took a statement but made no arrests.

> The locals who spoke to me all wondered why the city allowed this and ignored their calls for intervention. Peter Simpson, a public-information officer with the Portland Police Bureau, explained that “at the mayor’s direction, PPB involvement was very limited” until July 25.

> Back at the trolley tracks, the occupiers have been evicted but taxpayers will have to foot the costly cleanup bill. The Hakes family is still trying to recover. Brianna has decided to move out of the neighborhood. “They know my face and car,” she said. Like other residents I spoke to, she expects the mob to return.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/anarchy-breaks-out-in-portland-with-the-mayors-blessing-1533331454


Anonymous at 6:22 PM on August 5, 2018 | #10575 | reply | quote

#10573

>> Who else is even in contention?

> i don't know, not a big TV watcher... i've seen some hannity, he's ok but not as good as tucker. and saw some bill o'reilly in the past, who was ok but not as good as tucker. others are generally awful, though i did largely enjoy stephen colbert's right wing persona (i think it's actually smarter than his real left wing persona).

> what about online shows like crowder or levin? any great ones?

not that i know of.

if we're including podcasts I'd say Daniel Horowitz is great. His podcasts sometimes run pretty long so he can do like an hour plus on one topic. He goes into lots of detail on issues, history, policy, law, legislation etc. he has guests. he even had JEFF SESSIONS as a guest.

i don't know of any other really solid shows offhand. I haven't watched Levin (was paywalled last time i checked) and Crowder is funny but not super amazing imho


Anonymous at 6:26 PM on August 5, 2018 | #10576 | reply | quote

hey we are getting a new Coulter book soon. that should be good :)

https://www.amazon.com/Ann-Coulter/e/B00JLG65ZS


Anonymous at 6:27 PM on August 5, 2018 | #10577 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 6:59 PM on August 5, 2018 | #10578 | reply | quote

#10578 There are lots of good people in South Korea. South Korea has been economically productive. Jeong doesn't represent it. Culturally, isn't she more of an *American* leftist than anything distinctively related to Korea?


Anonymous at 9:03 PM on August 5, 2018 | #10579 | reply | quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T9KDcICn8M&lc=UgxJ59Uhrkab8ndNL6l4AaABAg.8iSn5-9auUO8jaKmIdz1Ix

Ray Cathode writes:

>> Popper had a mistaken view of the nature of induction. In essence, he tried to argue that inductions are formed by the observation of regularity in nature., i.e. the sun has risen each and every morning of my life so it should rise again tomorrow. That is not how induction works, induction works by identifying the causal reasons that the sun appears to rise each morning, i.e. the rotation of the earth on its axis relative to the sun - it is the discovery of that cause, that enables us, ceteris paribus, to be certain that the sun will rise . Also, rejecting induction is the rejection of any kind of knowledge. It is induction, after all, that provides the premises for deductive arguments. Induction is the means by which our perceptions are formed into concepts and then into propositions.

>> I would like to know what you believe is missing in Objectivism, if that is your claim.

curi replies:

> Popper said there are many variations on induction. He directly addressed more than one, and he also gave multiple arguments covering the general themes of inductive errors. You propose induction works by identifying causality. This is a major break with what "induction" has meant in the history of philosophy. You do not say by what method you propose identifying causality, nor why you regard that method as inductive specifically. Saying that you identify causality by induction wouldn't cover what you do – what the steps are, how it's done, or how it avoids the logical problems that make other attempts at induction impossible that Popper explained.

> Ayn Rand wrote almost nothing about induction, and said she didn't have a solution to some of the problems with it. I don't know what work by some other Objectivist thinker you believe both addresses Popper (with quotes and details, showing understanding of what the problems Popper brought up are, and how to address them, as well as commenting on Popper's positive epistemology) and also provides a clear explanation of specifically how induction works and how to do it.


curi at 9:06 PM on August 5, 2018 | #10580 | reply | quote

Apple Censorship

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/goldman-sachs-names-trading-chief-problems-cbs-itunes-drops-alex-jones-podcasts-150340277.html?.tsrc=applewf

> Apple’s (AAPL) iTunes has become the latest to say no to Alex Jones. The service has pulled down all of his podcasts and most offered by his network, Infowars. Apple hasn’t publicly explained the move, but Facebook recently suspended his profile for bullying and hate speech.


Anonymous at 1:38 PM on August 6, 2018 | #10581 | reply | quote

Leffen won evo. Interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FvuePsWS-c


Anonymous at 9:32 PM on August 6, 2018 | #10584 | reply | quote

#10529

> I updated the FI book recommendations page by adding this paragraph:

>

> Note: *If you don't like a book, stop reading it*. Ask a question about it, share a criticism, or try something else. If it's too difficult, *stop reading* and seek help or try something else. Reading books you don't like, or don't understand, won't help you. Book recommendations are a *starting point*, but it's up to you to evaluate the book for yourself after you've read some (specifically evaluate its value to you right now, not its value in general).

Thank you for adding this. I think it'll make a big difference.


anonymous at 5:00 AM on August 7, 2018 | #10585 | reply | quote

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2018/08/06/infowars

> Also curious: Apple only removed Infowars from their podcast directory — the Infowars app remains in the App Store. Different standards? Seems hard to justify de-listing the podcasts for “hate speech” but leaving the app in place when it contains the same content.

DF said something true and notable instead of something evil and leftist :)


Anonymous at 10:02 AM on August 7, 2018 | #10586 | reply | quote

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/08/06/google-releases-android-9-pie/

> Google Releases Android 9 Pie as Previous Oreo Release is Installed on Just 12% of Devices


Anonymous at 10:03 AM on August 7, 2018 | #10587 | reply | quote

Leaving the Infowars app was apparently intentional, see:

https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/08/07/tim-cook-eddy-cue-made-conscious-decision-to-drop-alex-jones-podcasts-but-not-app

looks like apple claims ToS violation on the podcasts but didn't see a ToS violation for the app.

also:

> Apple has been clear that it takes its guidelines seriously, with Eddy Cue stating at South by Southwest last spring that "we do think free speech is important, but we don't think white supremacist speech or hate speech is free speech that ought to be out there."

ugh


Anonymous at 10:06 AM on August 7, 2018 | #10588 | reply | quote

https://www.drudgereport.com

currently the top group of stories:


Anonymous at 10:07 AM on August 7, 2018 | #10589 | reply | quote

https://soundcloud.com/humanflourishingproject/episode-1-the-problem-i-most-want-to-solve/s-6xyZM

Alex Epstein is starting a new podcast series. This one is about the need for knowledge in life, and the difficulty of differentiating correct and incorrect ideas (there are tons of things where good ideas already exist, you don't have to invent a solution yourself, but there are many contradicting claims and it's hard to know which ideas to listen to).

Episode 1 focuses on *stating the problem* and comments on some examples like nutrition and psychology. It's good. I have lower expectations for future episodes where he gets into solutions.

He's using a Facebook group as a discussion forum for people to talk about this stuff. Meh. I think it means he doesn't want real discussions. He mentions in the future there may be other options like YouTube comments (also not a discussion forum).

I signed up for email notifications of new episodes: http://info.industrialprogress.com/human-flourishing

It's named *The Human Flourishing Project* even though it's about getting correct knowledge. Alex focuses specifically on knowledge that helps people have better lives, which he calls flourishing.

I posted this comment on the FB group:

https://www.facebook.com/HumanFlourishingProject/posts/1928308857232470?comment_id=1936527649743924&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D

> The field of philosophy which deals with knowledge – its nature, reliability, methods of attainment, etc – is epistemology. Objectivism offers an epistemology with many good characteristics, but also including induction – which Ayn Rand openly said was problematic and that she didn't personally know the solution. No Objectivist has written a serious refutation of Karl Popper's criticisms of induction, nor of his solution to what to do instead in order to get and evaluate knowledge. This is a major problem and there are no Objectivist discussion forums to resolve it at. (There are similar issues with e.g. Kantian forums, but they also have so many other problems it's overwhelming and it's hard to figure out what to productively do about those clashes.)


curi at 1:20 PM on August 8, 2018 | #10590 | reply | quote

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6040727/Extremist-Muslim-father-New-Mexico-compound-training-kids-carry-school-shootings.html

> Extremist Muslim father arrested at New Mexico compound housing 11 starving children was 'training them to commit school shootings' and had set up target practice area on the site


Anonymous at 3:32 PM on August 8, 2018 | #10592 | reply | quote

> Elliot, you should read this:

> http://geniusfamine.blogspot.com/

Looking more:

> Although we will be suggesting revisions and improvements to the scheme, many psychologists currently suggest that personality can best be understood in terms of five essential personality characteristics: these are the ‘Big 5’, which each make a scale between extremes

> our placing on them predicts how we behave.

the big 5 sux

> For example, high Conscientiousness as a child predicts greater success in education and employment; high Neuroticism predicts problems with mood swings, anxiety and depression.

correlation isn't prediction.

these correlations are actually weak.

the correlations are between *scores on certain tests*, given labels like "Conscientiousness", and certain metrics of education and employment success. the metrics are incomplete, and some of them are basically what people self-report on a questionaire (as against better, more objective but still flawed metrics like salary).

> But in summary, the Endogenous personality, necessary for genius, is self-sufficient, indifferent to the opinions of others or normal social aims, being instead wrapped-up in his own personal goals, and making judgements using his own internal, subjective evaluation systems – he will work very hard and for long periods on his own projects, but will not willingly go-along with other people’s plans and schemes. But more on this later…

this is OK but it's not telling me anything i didn't already know. how about you reply now with quotes from some parts you think are good and that i'd want to read.

PS I like this comment by Mises about genius in *Human Action*:

> Education, whatever benefits it may confer, is transmission of traditional doctrines and valuations; it is by necessity conservative. It produces imitation and routine, not improvement and progress. Innovators and creative geniuses cannot be reared in schools. They are precisely the men who defy what the school has taught them.


curi at 4:55 PM on August 8, 2018 | #10593 | reply | quote

Anonymous at 12:05 AM on August 9, 2018 | #10594 | reply | quote

Why no "HTTPS" for curi blog?


FF at 4:48 AM on August 9, 2018 | #10596 | reply | quote

So I had multitwitch open on 4 Overwatch streams, chat closed, went AFK ... and see this the next morning. huh. I wonder if he gave every viewer a free sub or something.


curi at 10:27 AM on August 9, 2018 | #10597 | reply | quote

#10596 https works, you can use it, i just haven't gotten around to forcing redirects to it.


Anonymous at 10:28 AM on August 9, 2018 | #10598 | reply | quote

The tweet is:


Anonymous at 11:05 AM on August 9, 2018 | #10599 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 7:33 PM on August 9, 2018 | #10601 | reply | quote

Peikoff at the Ford Hall Forum, ARI just put up 14 lectures:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqsoWxJ-qmMv6F-GQsbZmm72JMjHQVrtV


curi at 10:02 AM on August 10, 2018 | #10602 | reply | quote

On Twitter, Molyneux claimed interest in TCS crit of his parenting philosophy. So Justin tried posting ot Molyneux's forum.

https://twitter.com/curi42/status/1027995040830746624


Anonymous at 12:12 PM on August 10, 2018 | #10603 | reply | quote

I think the wod "moderation" violates the "profanity" filter. i made the title vague and then it posted fine. jfc.


Anonymous at 5:16 PM on August 10, 2018 | #10604 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 5:19 PM on August 10, 2018 | #10605 | reply | quote

https://board.freedomainradio.com/topic/51450-how-does-this-forum-work/

title:

> how does this forum work?

body:

> how does moderation work here? is there transparency for moderator actions? if you do anything wrong, do you get it explained to you, or just have to try to guess what's going on? is this mostly a free speech zone, or not? is criticism welcome? are unpopular views desired here or suppressed (the reputation system concerns me)?

> and why is there a filter on what words i can say? it claims to be a profanity filter but my original title did not contain profanity and my post was blocked anyway.

I guess the post will never go up:

At least one of Justin's two posts *did* go up on the forum, then was removed later, without explanation.


Anonymous at 5:22 PM on August 10, 2018 | #10606 | reply | quote

advocating spanking children is a bannable offense. what a way to shut down debate!

https://board.freedomainradio.com/guidelines/


Anonymous at 5:28 PM on August 10, 2018 | #10607 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 5:35 PM on August 10, 2018 | #10608 | reply | quote

Maybe now FF will stop praising Molyneux and suggesting Molyneux is any good.


Anonymous at 5:38 PM on August 10, 2018 | #10609 | reply | quote

Succession season 1 has finished. I liked it. It's renewed for season 2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_(TV_series)


Anonymous at 7:43 PM on August 10, 2018 | #10610 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 10:55 PM on August 10, 2018 | #10611 | reply | quote

Burglar talking about how he decides where to burgle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtwD-c9hn58


oh my god it's turpentine at 7:40 AM on August 11, 2018 | #10612 | reply | quote

I've moved FI to the google group. The google group is now the primary group. I updated the FI website and both group websites. (I prefer people continue sending to both since the yahoo group has way more people, and for redundancy in case google loses/delays emails.)

http://fallibleideas.com/discussion


curi at 9:24 AM on August 11, 2018 | #10613 | reply | quote

Molyneux sucks:

http://www.fdrliberated.com/stefan-molyneux-tries-to-silence-another-voice/

he DMCAs critical youtube videos and tries to get critical forums shut down.

http://www.fdrliberated.com/suit-claims-stefan-molyneux-listened-in-on-therapist-wife-and-clients/

his wife is a therapist. he went in the vents and listened in on some of her sessions. there was a lawsuit. he admitted this in a podcast, then edited it out of the podcast later.

http://www.fdrliberated.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=d73e937526751b69a7be3bf2da41bafc&topic=1775.msg21555;topicseen#new

> Anyone who knows Molyneux's past knows he has no problems nuking critics' YT channels or online forums he doesn't like and then use the excuse of harassment, racism, etc with no proof beyond his accusation.

http://www.fdrliberated.com/brief-introduction-freedomain-radio/

> Unfortunately, Molyneux often ignores the need to cite his influences or give references. As a result, many of his followers today—who came into FDR as a result of his podcasts—mistakenly believe that most of the ideas discussed originated with Molyneux. Is it plagiarism? Well, Molyneux doesn’t specifically *claim* to be the author of those ideas. He simply discusses them—unattributed—with great passion and lets his acolytes draw their own conclusions.


Anonymous at 10:13 AM on August 11, 2018 | #10614 | reply | quote

http://www.fdrliberated.com

> Today, he employs people to patrol his Facebook page, YouTube account, and forum, deleting information and user accounts that challenge his self-proclaimed role as the "salvation of philosophy" and the first man in history to give parents a moral framework for "peaceful parenting."


Anonymous at 10:32 AM on August 11, 2018 | #10615 | reply | quote

Example of me changing my mind in an argument (with Alan, about the implications of the second law of thermodynamics):

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/fallible-ideas/conversations/topics/3694


curi at 10:36 AM on August 11, 2018 | #10616 | reply | quote

i commented on Alex Epstein's 2nd epistemology podcast:

https://www.facebook.com/HumanFlourishingProject/posts/1940289852701037?comment_id=1941565192573503&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D

My process for separating non-knowledge from knowledge includes Paths Forward – always keeping options open so that my mistakes can be corrected by anyone who knows something I don't. Most intellectuals don't do this – there's no organized process for sharing important knowledge with them that they don't know. https://rationalessays.com/using-intellectual-processes-to-combat-bias

I think the approach (from the podcast) of *seeking, validating and integrating* knowledge is mistaken/incomplete because it doesn't cover *correcting errors*. Validating means you find out something is valid, which isn't an *ongoing process of looking for and fixing errors* (nor is it *a process of ongoing improvement*, as Eli Goldratt put it in _The Goal_).

Also, instead of "fake knowledge" I would say "mistakes" (or errors), which is different than non-knoweldge (things where you're neutral, you haven't made a judgment).

About experts, a major criterion I use is: Is this expert asking the questions I would ask (and considering the criticisms that I would) if I studied the issue myself? Is he using the methods I would use? Is he aware of the key knowledge I'd use to check for errors in this area? Is he doing the work for me that I would have done (so he can be a good proxy for me) or not? For example, I won't accept expert ideas from non-Objectivists regarding capitalism because they aren't thinking about it in the way I would have. Also I criticized steelmanning recently at https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/fallible-ideas/conversations/messages/27744


curi at 11:59 AM on August 11, 2018 | #10617 | reply | quote

My post asking how the FDR forum works was deleted too:

See #10606 for the post.


Anonymous at 12:01 PM on August 11, 2018 | #10618 | reply | quote

FF at 8:54 AM on August 12, 2018 | #10619 | reply | quote

Solid price on Bose QC 35 ii at multiple sellers https://slickdeals.net/share/iphone_app/t/11929663


Anonymous at 10:32 AM on August 12, 2018 | #10620 | reply | quote

Thread on the sort of things that offend libs nowadays with a twitter thread about Trump used as an example http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4050057&mc=52&forum_id=2


Anonymous at 2:19 PM on August 12, 2018 | #10621 | reply | quote

My gif is not loading #10619


FF at 2:34 PM on August 12, 2018 | #10622 | reply | quote

#10622 i can see it.


Anonymous at 2:40 PM on August 12, 2018 | #10623 | reply | quote

https://mailchi.mp/ben-evans/benedicts-newsletter-no-450593?e=6d10385a84

> Fortnite is launching on Android, some time after iOS. Three interesting things. First, Epic has decided to bypass the Google Play store and get people to side-load the installation direct from its website: this lets it avoid paying Google commission on in-app purchases, but raises a hurdle to installation - it's betting demand is strong enough, which is probably correct (Apple doesn't allow this on iOS). Second, this also encourages pretty unsafe behavior - there will be a lot of people trying to trick users (and a lot of Fortnite players are children) into downloading malware from look-alike sites (which is a major reason why Apple doesn't allow this, quite apart from the 30% tax). Third, Epic estimates that of the >2.5bn Android phones out there, only 250m are capable of running the game. Link

ugh @ these security problems that are going to hurt kids, and how shitty the android ecosystem and community is.

also i'm curious how are you going to play a fast paced shooter on a phone? this is a game where you aim a gun with your mouse and you fight other human beings, not just handicapped enemies controlled by the computer and designed to be easy enough to beat with bad controls.


Anonymous at 3:37 PM on August 12, 2018 | #10624 | reply | quote

Oh hey, Omri got hired by Ted Cruz :)

And took his blog down :(

http://mererhetoric.com

https://web.archive.org/web/20120217215220/http://mererhetoric.com


Anonymous at 5:05 PM on August 12, 2018 | #10625 | reply | quote

you can now add comments=n to the url to limit it to displaying the most recent n comments. example:

http://curi.us/2126-open-discussion?comments=50

it won't stay that way when you go to a new page (click reply, click post comment, etc), but you can bookmark it and load the page faster initially with fewer comments.


curi at 5:31 PM on August 12, 2018 | #10626 | reply | quote

nice feature. Thanks.


guilherme at 5:42 PM on August 12, 2018 | #10627 | reply | quote

#10626

+1 👍


Anonymous at 6:15 PM on August 12, 2018 | #10628 | reply | quote

eBooks page updated with formatting and FI archives:

http://curi.us/ebooks


curi at 7:49 PM on August 12, 2018 | #10629 | reply | quote

South Africa is gonna take white farmer land without compensation

>Another person who gave testimony said: "We are going to take the land, even if it means we're going back to the dark ages. This country must be African. We are African."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-45099915


Anonymous at 2:44 AM on August 13, 2018 | #10630 | reply | quote

Ancient Roman criminal punishments could be brutal https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poena_cullei


Anonymous at 7:48 AM on August 13, 2018 | #10631 | reply | quote

Anonymous at 1:06 PM on August 13, 2018 | #10633 | reply | quote

> Democrats have more positive view of socialism than capitalism https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/13/gallup-democrats-prefer-socialism-to-capitalism/

The ignoramuses should read Mises.


Anonymous at 1:19 PM on August 13, 2018 | #10634 | reply | quote

Cicero talking in historical fiction novel Imperium: A Novel of Ancient Rome (Cicero, #1)

>Sometimes," he said, summing up the discussion with an aphorism I have never forgotten, "if you find yourself stuck in politics, the thing to do is start a fight--start a fight, even if you do not know how you are going to win it, because it is only when a fight is on, and everything is in motion, that you can hope to see your way through.


Anonymous at 1:41 PM on August 13, 2018 | #10635 | reply | quote

> Cicero talking in historical fiction novel Imperium: A Novel of Ancient Rome (Cicero, #1)

>> Sometimes," he said, summing up the discussion with an aphorism I have never forgotten, "if you find yourself stuck in politics, the thing to do is start a fight--start a fight, even if you do not know how you are going to win it, because it is only when a fight is on, and everything is in motion, that you can hope to see your way through.

Reminds me of this article especially rules 1+ 3 https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/270456/trumps-5-rules-ruling-world-daniel-greenfield


Anonymous at 4:22 PM on August 13, 2018 | #10636 | reply | quote

Anonymous at 4:22 PM on August 13, 2018 | #10637 | reply | quote

xoxo has some of the best one liners on the internet

thread title (no real content in thread as of now):

*"What My 'Knockout Game' Experience Taught Me About My Unconscious Bias" (Vox)"*

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051037&forum_id=2


Anonymous at 5:47 PM on August 13, 2018 | #10638 | reply | quote

#10638

Another good one, mocking lack of wall progress:

**Trump: Don't you see? The wall was inside you all along!**

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051280&mc=5&forum_id=2


Anonymous at 6:30 PM on August 13, 2018 | #10639 | reply | quote

Etymology is interesting https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_censor

> The censor was a magistrate in ancient Rome who was responsible for maintaining the census, supervising public morality, and overseeing certain aspects of the government's finances.[1]

> The power of the censors was absolute: no magistrate could oppose their decisions, only another censor who succeeded them could cancel it.

> The censors' regulation of public morality is the origin of the modern meaning of the words "censor" and "censorship".[2]


Anonymous at 5:20 AM on August 14, 2018 | #10640 | reply | quote

https://www.theobjectivestandard.com/2018/08/mark-pellegrino-on-the-american-capitalist-party/

> Pellegrino: Right now, it is only a platform of governing principles and rough political goals. Our purpose is twofold: First—and if we achieve only this, we’ve achieved a lot—we want to help people to think about politics in a way they haven’t before. In the main, people think of politics as two or more opposing sides clashing in debates over social problems, with the purpose of the debates being to achieve a compromise solution. This compromise is supposed to represent the “moderate” and thus “rational” approach to solving the problem. People familiar with Objectivism know that a compromise can take place only between parties who agree on essentials or ultimate goals. When the parties agree on essential aims, the haggling is merely over details or means of accomplishing those goals.

> This, of course, is the lay of the political landscape right now: Two parties, in essential agreement about the proper functions of government, are haggling over how the government should achieve its ends. They agree that government should control the economy, control people’s lives, and make people and businesses give their “fair share” to society. They disagree only on matters of degree and on the particular means to these ends. They argue over whether individuals should be controlled by the federal or state governments—in the bedroom or the boardroom—in health care or investments. They disagree over how government should redistribute wealth—in the traditional ways, or in newfangled ways. And, agreeing on essentials, they come up with all sorts of ideas and programs for controlling people and redistributing wealth. They never question the premise that this is what government should do. That’s an unchallenged absolute. The only questions are how and to what extent should government interfere and redistribute.

This ignores Trump's promise to drain the swamp, and Cruz's more extreme and specific promises along similar lines like abolishing the IRS and various other government agencies that Cruz specifically named. And I think Trump has actually followed through on repealing 2 laws/regulations for each new 1, or something like that, right?

So it's just not true about everyone agreeing on essentials – unless you're calling Trump and Cruz liars, which would require further elaboration (especially about their actions that *are* in line with their rhetoric). There are prominent Republicans who advocate smaller government and more freedom.


Anonymous at 6:08 PM on August 14, 2018 | #10642 | reply | quote

20 years of iMac 🖥 🎂 🍰 🎁 🎊 🎉 🎈

https://t.co/K1mUhc1vfG?amp=1


Anonymous at 3:49 AM on August 15, 2018 | #10644 | reply | quote

Trying another subreddit (maybe):

https://www.reddit.com/r/IntellectualDarkWeb/comments/971hj9/the_problem_with_the_whole_democrats_are_the_real/

> For sound-bite level of discussion:

> the dems are the party of the KKK

> the nazis were statist, anti-capitalist, anti-liberals and the German socialist workers were voluntary, loyal nazi soldiers.

> the U.S. "conservatives" are the real liberals – in favor of freedom, capitalism, limited government, non-revolutionary reform.

> If you want to get into more detail, then the left/right political spectrum isn't good enough because people's political views are way more complex than just choosing a spot on one (or a few) spectrums.

> the best book on the Nazis, history of WWII, and the relevant economics and ideologies is *Omnipotent Government* by Ludwig von Mises https://mises.org/library/omnipotent-government-rise-total-state-and-total-war (who is also, in general, the best author to teach people what "liberal" actually means)


curi at 8:39 AM on August 15, 2018 | #10647 | reply | quote

#10647 I fear I will get ignored because the thread is a day old and already has 50 comments. I found it because it's currently in the top 10 on the IDW subreddit main page.

Even if I get responses from a few more interested/active users, I think most people will never see our discussion.

This is stupid and is maybe reddit's big problem. Discussions die so fast. (Also reddit locks all threads after 6 months, so it can't be used as a long term forum.)


curi at 8:43 AM on August 15, 2018 | #10648 | reply | quote

Wow, Robert Spencer (Jihad Watch blog) got kicked from Patreon because of political bias by *Mastercard*, not by Patreon themselves (at least Patreon was willing to publicly claim this):

https://twitter.com/Patreon/status/1029551216886341634

https://twitter.com/Patreon/status/1029554474547728391


Anonymous at 11:05 AM on August 15, 2018 | #10649 | reply | quote

#10647 Followups:

kodheaven:

>>> the U.S. "conservatives" are the real liberals – in favor of freedom, capitalism, limited government, non-revolutionary reform.

>> I can see how that might be the case but you'd have to seperate "conservatives" from "republicans" in order to separate some of the religious right that have very illiberal views. The terms tend to get confusing, I've always considered myself a progressive, and in many ways I probably am, but I think "Classical Liberal" might be closer to my views. But THAT gets confused with libertarian, which I am not.

>> edit: Pinging /u/hossmcdank one of my favorite people when it comes to looking at different ideas without the freak outs.

me:

>> in order to separate some of the religious right that have very illiberal views.

I don't think that's a significant force in US politics today.

> For example, I would consider Ted Cruz to be a prominent, religious, right-wing politician. I don't think he has very illiberal views. And in the 2016 republican primary debates, the other important candidates were less religious and less right wing than Cruz. Do you have in mind some other people (who?) who are more religious than Cruz and significantly different? Or do you have some major objections to Cruz that you think make him illiberal?

> Also, what do you dislike about libertarianism if (as I think you may be implying?) you're in favor of freedom, capitalism, and limited government?


curi at 2:02 PM on August 15, 2018 | #10650 | reply | quote

I posted criticism of a paper by Sam Harris and some coauthors related to brain scanning religious and non-religious people. I got a Change My View delta (gold star for changing someone's mind about something) and it gave me a wiki to list them:

https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/user/curi

That's cool that it can keep a list.

Here's what I wrote:

https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/955vuz/cmv_i_subscribe_to_sam_harriss_the_moral_landscape/e495mtm/


curi at 4:07 PM on August 15, 2018 | #10651 | reply | quote

> “A random guy on Twitter with a few thousand followers, Landon Simms, tweeted on Sunday night:

> "My grandfather is a 96-yr-old German. When seeing Antifa videos, he shakes his head and says; 'We didn't think it could happen in Germany either. These people (Antifa) act and sound like the NAZI party's Sturmabteilung. Stop them now or you'll regret it.'"

> In short order, Simms' tweet had gotten a Kardashian-level number of retweets, well surpassing CNN's average viewership. (And you wonder why the left is fixated on ending free speech on the Internet.)

> Simms’ grandfather didn’t see any of the antifa videos on TV – the media showed only antiseptic clips carefully washed of any untoward behavior. But videos were all over the Internet. (Again, you see why the left wants to shut down free speech on the internet.)”

August 15, 2018 - EYES ON THE PRIZE-FIGHTERS

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2018-08-15.html

via Instapaper


Anonymous at 5:28 PM on August 15, 2018 | #10652 | reply | quote

Omnipotent Government: The Rise of the Total State and Total War, by Ludwig von Mises, 1944:

> Actually there have been in these last years all over the world two main political parties: the anti-Fascists, i.e., the friends of Russia (communists, fellow travelers, self-styled liberals and progressives), and the anticommunists, i.e., the friends of Germany (parties of shirts of different colors, not very accurately called “Fascists” by their adversaries). There have been few genuine liberals and democrats in these years.

Lots of relevance to antifa today.


curi at 6:21 PM on August 15, 2018 | #10653 | reply | quote

Anonymous at 7:18 PM on August 15, 2018 | #10654 | reply | quote

Good info on media bias where they won't use terms like "right wing" when talking about politics in Muslim countries.

https://www.meforum.org/articles/2018/whitewashing-far-right-parties-in-the-middle-east


Anonymous at 7:37 PM on August 15, 2018 | #10655 | reply | quote

The shame of the left

#10652 Yeah I'd say I am on the left but I am baffled at the hypocrisy when it comes to Antifa. I mean these raving lunatics get a free pass because ??? I have yet to see a reasonable answer on why ANTIFA is treated as anything other than actual violent fascists.


Kodheaven at 7:48 PM on August 15, 2018 | #10656 | reply | quote

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/08/16/2018-iphone-x-apple-pencil-support/

> Another Report Says Second-Generation iPhone X and iPhone X Plus Will Support Apple Pencil


Anonymous at 9:19 AM on August 16, 2018 | #10658 | reply | quote

https://www.theobjectivestandard.com/2018/08/mark-pellegrino-on-the-american-capitalist-party/

> from the time of the U.S. founding until the dawn of the Progressive Era—which was the advent of statism in America—the government spent 3 percent or less of the GDP. It now spends close to 40 percent and is increasing rapidly with no end in sight.


Anonymous at 12:08 PM on August 16, 2018 | #10659 | reply | quote

http://www.theamericancapitalistparty.com/policies.html

> IMMIGRATION

> We uphold this conviction: Open borders for honest immigrants is an application of the principle of individual rights to those foreign born.

> Consequently, we support open borders for all honest men and women. We maintain that honest individuals have the moral right to choose their country of residence, that the government of a free society must uphold and protect that right, and that, in practical terms, the United States throughout its history has greatly benefited from immigration. Andrew Carnegie, Albert Einstein, Jerry Yang (co-founder of Yahoo), Sergey Brin (co-founder of Google), and numerous other geniuses and/or productive giants were and are immigrants to America; Silicon Valley, for example, is heavily populated with expert, foreign-born engineers. Related, labor force participation rates show that low-skilled immigrant laborers are and have long been among American society's hardest workers. To those who argue that immigrants freeload off of the welfare system, our response is dual: Factually, the welfare state is—overwhelmingly—a problem of native-born Americans, not of immigrants, who generally manifest a superlative work ethic; second, the welfare state must be utterly abolished on purely moral and humanitarian grounds regardless of America's immigration policy.

> Eliminating the welfare state will ensure even further that only those willing to work productively will immigrate to America.

> Expensive background checks to ensure the debarring of jihadists, criminals, and persons bearing communicable diseases are, economically, more than offset by immense productivity gained by welcoming such hard-working immigrants.

gross


Anonymous at 12:32 PM on August 16, 2018 | #10660 | reply | quote

I emailed the following to the American Capitalist Party:

you should have a serious discussion forum for people to discuss your platform and policies, where you or your representatives/proxies answer questions and criticisms. that way if people have doubts or disagreements, answers are available. and if you're mistaken about any of your ideas, those mistakes can be corrected instead of left unaddressed.

there should be some kind of written, predictable, reliable mechanism for getting questions/doubts/criticisms/suggestions-for-improvements addressed and resolved, and realistically this will involve a discussion forum (so e.g. people can post a question and then you can write a canonical answer – on the forum or elsewhere and link to it) and then other people can come along and read both the question and answer, and can also reply with followup questions.

for a fuller explanation of why this matters, see: http://fallibleideas.com/paths-forward

facebook is not suitable for this.


curi at 12:42 PM on August 16, 2018 | #10661 | reply | quote

Solid tucker vid on how radical and evil Dems are now https://youtu.be/cA6bu-1Qbi8


Anonymous at 5:50 AM on August 17, 2018 | #10662 | reply | quote

Meal Services I've Tried

Hello Fresh - Requires the most preparation on your part (too much in my opinion). Worst packing - bigger box than necessary, stuff moves around and cold packs do not stay in position to keep everything cold. Worst shipping to my location - ships via ground, in transit for days in summer heat?!?!

Gobble - Requires less preparation than Hello Fresh but still significant. 15 minute estimate is way too low. Packing & shipping is fine. Recipes can leave out important steps assuming you know to do them (like cut ends off peppers), and/or ingredients can be unclear (2 unlabeled pouches of sauce-type stuff...what is what?).

Both of the above call for the use of more oil than I'm used to or like, resulting in food being too greasy for my taste if you follow the recipes exactly.

Also both of the above suffer from veggie overload: The tendency to have too high a vegetable to meat ratio, and to use uncooked vegetables (ex: salads, or sides that are uncooked). This is also often combined with icky sauces like vinegar based stuff (hate vinegar). Some people like that kinda stuff but I do not and it disqualifies at least half the meals in each service. Some weeks I can't even find one or two meals where I'd eat most or all of it.

Freshly - Have only had one week from them so far but I really like it! The only prep you do is microwave. They're all pre-cooked. It's kinda like a frozen dinner without the freezing, which permits a little more variety in ingredients than you find in frozen dinners. Each meal is in a standard sized tray so packaging is standard (and tight). Everything stays in position and stays cold. Ships ground to my location BUT it's close, so not a problem. Benefits are that everyone in a family can pick something different with no extra prep, prep overall is extremely short and predictable. And NO VEGGIE OVERLOAD.

I like the content (ingredient usage and ratio) of Freshly's meals the best by far. I like the taste of Hello Fresh the best, but all three are pretty close in terms of taste (comparing stuff I actually like). Which is: significantly better than fast food or frozen dinners, on par with mid-tier restaurants and simple home recipes (but more convenient), and below top end restaurants or specialty home recipes.


PAS at 7:14 AM on August 17, 2018 | #10663 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 2:12 PM on August 17, 2018 | #10665 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 2:32 PM on August 17, 2018 | #10666 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 2:45 PM on August 17, 2018 | #10667 | reply | quote

#10663 Blue Apron is similar to Hello Fresh.

Judging by the pictures, Freshly meals look less tasty than Gobble to me. But the convenience factor sounds great. I'll try them sometime. Thanks.


Anonymous at 2:48 PM on August 17, 2018 | #10668 | reply | quote

> The only prep you do is microwave. They're all pre-cooked. It's kinda like a frozen dinner without the freezing

FYI you can now buy lots of things like this at grocery stores like Trader Joe's or Whole Foods. I've tried and enjoyed a bunch from TJs.


Anonymous at 2:51 PM on August 17, 2018 | #10669 | reply | quote

One of my favorites that maybe you'd like, PAS:


Anonymous at 2:55 PM on August 17, 2018 | #10670 | reply | quote

#10670 thanks for the reminder that that exists :D


Anonymous at 3:06 PM on August 17, 2018 | #10671 | reply | quote

#10671 haev you tried TJs meatloaf? it's refrigerated and it's just meatloaf with a little bit of tomato sauce, no sides. very good. you can add your own potatoes, bread, veggies or whatever to go with it.


Anonymous at 3:09 PM on August 17, 2018 | #10672 | reply | quote

#10668 - I guess our tastes are different. Mostly they include less of the stuff I don't like. Seeing a bunch of leaves, or avocados, or other random veggies I don't like instantly makes a meal look non-tasty to me.

#10669 & #10670 - OK on the concept, no on the specific TJ's dinner (mushrooms = deal killer). I like lots of TJ's frozen stuff but haven't found any of their refrigerated stuff I like yet. Haven't tried Whole Foods (they're currently inconvenient to my location).


PAS at 3:12 PM on August 17, 2018 | #10673 | reply | quote

#10673 i have also enjoyed TJs refrigerated lasagna quite a bit


Anonymous at 3:17 PM on August 17, 2018 | #10674 | reply | quote

Regarding my Jordan Peterson videos:

https://www.reddit.com/r/IntellectualDarkWeb/comments/985sls/four_videos_discussing_jordan_petersons_12_rules/

> It's 11 hours long :O

> How about a 15-30 min for the start, most important points?

If anyone wants to give this guy a TL;DR (or TL;DW, I guess), that'd be great.


curi at 4:45 PM on August 17, 2018 | #10675 | reply | quote

Ever heard of this guy, elliot?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche#Ideology_and_beliefs

Quote:

*"According to George Johnson, LaRouche sees history as a battle between Platonists, who believe in absolute truth, and Aristotelians, who rely on empirical data. Johnson characterizes LaRouche's views as follows: the Platonists include figures such as Beethoven, Mozart, Shakespeare, Leonardo da Vinci, and Leibniz. He believes that many of the world's ills result from the dominance of Aristotelianism as embraced by the empirical philosophers (such as Hobbes, Locke, Berkeley, and Hume), leading to a culture that favors the empirical over the metaphysical, embraces moral relativism, and seeks to keep the general population uninformed. Industry, technology, and classical music should be used to enlighten the world, LaRouche argues, whereas the Aristotelians use psychotherapy, drugs, rock music, jazz, environmentalism, and quantum theory to bring about a new dark age in which the world will be ruled by the oligarchs. Left and right are false distinctions for LaRouche; what matters is the Platonic versus Aristotelian outlook, a position that has led him to form relationships with groups as disparate as farmers, nuclear engineers, Black Muslims, Teamsters, and pro-life advocates."*

Equating Aristotle with evil? How can someone come to this errenous conclusion?

Related:

http://lymcanada.org/riemman-for-anti-dummies/


Anonymous at 9:47 PM on August 17, 2018 | #10676 | reply | quote

Heard of before, but don't know anything about him. From the quote, he seems rather confused. Lots of people are confused. Shrug.


curi at 9:52 PM on August 17, 2018 | #10677 | reply | quote

https://soundcloud.com/humanflourishingproject/episode-3-how-to-enjoy-growth-and-progress

My comments on the ep, also posted to FB at https://www.facebook.com/HumanFlourishingProject/posts/1952583394805016

- Talking about *access* to real knowledge doesn’t address or acknowledge the issue of *how to resolve disagreements* between ideas.

- In the big picture, the “gap” is always *infinite*. No matter how far you get – 500, 5000, 5 million – there’s always infinity more to go. Potential improvement is unbounded, and finite progress can never get close to or approach the end of an infinite road (on a scale from 0 to infinity, any finite number is always near the beginning). So we must learn to live in a state of ongoing progress (the only alternative is a static life, which is unsustainable – only ongoing progress is sustainable in the long run because new problems are inevitable). See David Deutsch’s book *The Beginning of Infinity*, which is named for this issue (and makes the point about sustainability). http://beginningofinfinity.com

- Keeping in mind positives in an appropriate, objective way – and feeling appropriately positive – is something that one should *automate*. Like most skills, one should put conscious attention into it at first while learning it, and should go through organized the steps and practice it. But after a while it should become second nature and rarely need much conscious attention or reminders, which allows moving on to focus more attention on other things.


Anonymous at 10:42 PM on August 17, 2018 | #10678 | reply | quote

#10677

He seems to have mixed Plato and Aristotle to a point of disbelief. He seems smart enough to not do this out of a lack of access to text or knowledge about either philospher. I've only read *The Nicomachean Ethics*, but I've often heard that it is possible to misinterpret Plato as pro-science and Aristotle as a hippie. This raises the question, how far is it possible to misinterpret them while (assumingly) still being honest?


Anonymous at 10:44 PM on August 17, 2018 | #10679 | reply | quote

#10679 I interpret LaRouche as thinking he has Aristotle as the pro-science one (pro-empiricism).


Anonymous at 10:49 PM on August 17, 2018 | #10680 | reply | quote

I added a feature to limit how many comments display so the page will load faster. See the original blog post at the top for details and a link.


curi at 11:06 PM on August 17, 2018 | #10681 | reply | quote

From a comment on slickdeals regarding a monitor

>damn i want this for office work! my wife would beat me if i bought another..


Anonymous at 8:59 AM on August 18, 2018 | #10682 | reply | quote

> The parties of the Right did not differ in principle from those of the Left. They were only more moderate

Excerpt From: Ludwig von Mises. “Omnipotent Government: The Rise of the Total State and Total War.” iBooks.


Anonymous at 10:19 AM on August 18, 2018 | #10683 | reply | quote

http://thefederalist.com/2018/08/17/screenshots-show-google-shadowbans-conservative-pro-trump-content/

> These Screenshots Show How Google Shadowbans Conservative And Pro-Trump Content

Article talks about trying to promote his video, then trying to find out why Google was blocking it. Turns out a Trump quote – that the NYT had published – scrolled along the bottom of the TV interview. jfc. Later he got shadowbanned on YouTube by SPLC censors. Also if you search for Cavuto you only find anti-Trump stuff, even though he makes stuff for both sides:

> Keep in mind, Cavuto is an endangered species. He is one of the last fair and balanced journalists on television. He giveth and he taketh away. But you will have to scroll deep into YouTube to find anything positive about Trump from Cavuto. Google hides those videos.

> You can go 300 videos deep and still not find the interview with me that has the second-most views of any Cavuto video (see above). You will pass videos with 22 views and many that are nine years old. I have been censored out of the Cavuto stream.

Google apparently auto-generates hidden channels based on ppl like Hannity or Tucker, puts whatever videos they want on them by biased algorithm or biased human selection, and then highly prioritizes those videos in search results.

> Even if I type in the exact, complicated title of this particular YouTube video, they offer me something else.

Scary. Read the whole article.

> A recent report claims that a Chicago pastor saw his podcast drop from the top 25 in iTunes to less than 200 only 24 hours after posting a Facebook message “to pray for Donald Trump.”

:(

> One of the sources I interviewed for this article found his business shadow-banned on Facebook after he expressed pro-Trump sentiments. He went through three businesses and thousands of dollars before finally realizing what was happening. He has since changed his online identity, IP address, and bank accounts, and after months of scrubbing he is up and running again. But of course, this time he will keep his mouth shut.

:(

> To prepare for the segment, I quickly googled “media bias.” What came up was a long list of articles telling me that there was no such thing as media bias. A Google-promoted chart ranked CNN somewhere in the middle, between liberal and conservative.

lying scumbags.

> the chart that Google promotes says CBS tacks slightly to the right

jfc

> Even as I research and write this article I’ve been told that Google has now agreed to work with communist censors in China. As long as the Chinese stay on the far left, they should get along fine.

!

---

BTW, me and my FI colleagues have had our own bad experience trying to run twitter ads promoting content that SJWs and Marxists don't like.


Anonymous at 6:11 PM on August 18, 2018 | #10684 | reply | quote

I wrote about morality being contextual.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IntellectualDarkWeb/comments/9863d5/criticism_of_sam_harris_the_moral_landscape_for/e4g0pe8/

> Is well being really dependent on the subjects values?

Yes. E.g. some people like steak and some dislike it, so having steak in the fridge provides different amounts of well being to them.

Moral truths deal with context. They don't say "Always eat steak regardless of your preferences, allergies or situation." E.g. my understanding of moral truth says, broadly, approximately, to eat foods that you like and which don't harm you (which foods those are depends on the person and their current situation, and there are many other issues like affordability). And the amount to eat depends on your weight, metabolism, how much you ate recently, and other more; morality does not say that everyone should eat 2000 calories a day, it says that "What should a person eat in X situation?" and "What should a person eat in Y situation?" often have different answers.

The answers for what to eat in different situations aren't independent either. Moral knowledge often applies to multiple contexts, but rarely all contexts. There are tips for how to eat that are helpful for many situations. How widely an idea applies is what David Deutsch calls its "reach". Ideas with more reach are less parochial, and are generally more interesting and valuable – but having some knowledge that's very specific to your own situation is good too.


curi at 8:43 PM on August 18, 2018 | #10685 | reply | quote

> Yea, and "almost anything" is wildly wrong, as I said. Repeating your claim to try and rationalize what you said doesn't change that what you said is soundly wrong. No, you cannot teach yourself almost anything, not remotely. A person with an average IQ can't do MOST intellectual work, they're not equipped for it, so no, not "almost", in fact it's more like not much.

What do I say to this guy?


ff at 8:49 PM on August 18, 2018 | #10686 | reply | quote

Anonymous at 8:52 PM on August 18, 2018 | #10687 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 11:39 PM on August 18, 2018 | #10689 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 11:42 AM on August 19, 2018 | #10692 | reply | quote

I wrote:

https://www.reddit.com/r/IntellectualDarkWeb/comments/98mgy8/eric_weinstein_wonders_what_is_to_have_this_time/e4hc828/

The stuff LT is talking about has little to do with TCS. It's just her views on how to deal with stuff.

> I am curious on what the perspective of someone who follows the "Take Children Seriously" perspective like @DavidDeutschOxf would think about the YouTube Channel idea. He would certainly be exposed to some mean spirited criticism at best, hateful trolling at worst.

The TCS perspective on this is: it's the kid's choice. Give the best advice you can, to the extent he wants the advice, and let him make his own decision. And then help your kid with whatever his decision is, whether you agree or not. TCS doesn't specifically take a stance on whether it's good or bad to have a YT channel, but is broadly positive about people doing activities in life, and broadly optimistic about the ability of young people to do worthwhile things or acquire skills.

I personally think YT channels are good but that writing is more important than video as a format for serious thinking/learning/discussion. But that isn't a TCS position. TCS is a specific thing that focuses on issues like how to treat your kid and how learning works, not on what to do with one's life.

Also, the concern:

> He would certainly be exposed to some mean spirited criticism at best, hateful trolling at worst.

Is simply not a concern of TCS. TCS does not say to avoid mean spirited criticism or hateful trolling. And if it's implicitly suggesting sheltering his kid from such things due to his young age, then TCS's response to that would be: no. (Though parents are welcome to give wanted, non-pressuring advice about what sort of things to avoid and why. Personally I'd basically disagree and say it's good to learn to take in information, including about how flawed many people are, without being upset, evaluating ideas as if truth were a popularity contest, or thinking that *unargued* insults have any bearing on who you are. I think waiting would only make sense if there was a clear, specific plan in progress, or starting now, to learn some skills that will help the YT channel project succeed better. But I don't think one should just vaguely assume that waiting until one is older will somehow mean one knows how to do things he hasn't been doing.)

PS if you want to know about TCS you should ask at the FI list or the curiosity forum. They are the only active TCS discussion places and they are where everyone who cares about TCS is available to answer questions. http://fallibleideas.com/discussion https://curi.us/2126-open-discussion


curi at 2:19 PM on August 19, 2018 | #10700 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 6:34 PM on August 19, 2018 | #10703 | reply | quote

https://wpgc.radio.com/blogs/white-woman-calls-someone-n-word-x2-bus-ne-gets-beat

> A white woman was hospitalized following an altercation where she called a group of people the N-word on the X2 Metrobus.

> Video emerged on Twitter showing the woman getting into an argument with another passenger. As the white woman begins walking off the bus near 2nd and H streets in Northeast D.C., she calls the other passenger the N-word.

> The video shows the woman exiting the bus before cutting to a clip where she is on the ground, bloodied up.

one of the reaction tweets:

>She tried to call a bus full of niggas, niggers and had the nerve to do it on the X2 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 lord stupidity is a illness


Anonymous at 6:43 PM on August 19, 2018 | #10704 | reply | quote

Great new David Horowitz article about Trump and NeverTrumpers.

https://amgreatness.com/2018/08/19/trumps-character-and-trumps-presidency/


Anonymous at 9:23 PM on August 19, 2018 | #10705 | reply | quote

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4055803&mc=15&forum_id=2

Guy working in White House got fired cuz he spoke at an event (Mencken club) that Richard Spencer has spoken at.

I googled a past speaker list and it seemed like quite a mix of people, including Austrian economists and VDare type people, and people with fancy degrees http://hlmenckenclub.org/2017-conference/

So calling it white nationalist seems like a lie. They let white nationalists but that doesn't seem like the theme.

SPLC has framed it as a white nationalist event for quite some time of course

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2013/11/01/white-nationalist-academics-gather-weekend-hl-mencken-club-annual-meeting

>When it formed six years ago, the founders of the H.L. Mencken Club envisioned a simple forum for the “intellectual right” to be filled with “young thinkers and activists” ready to tackle the tough issues confronting the country. In reality, though, the club was a gathering place for the country’s most prominent white nationalists.

Even SPLC kinda admits that white nationalism isn't the theme and that their issue is that white nationalist speakers are among those who can speak

>Speakers at this year’s conference, which is being held at “a hotel near Baltimore-Washington International Airport,” according to the website, include John Derbyshire, the white nationalist fired from the National Review for writing a piece for a separate publication suggesting that white and Asian parents should warn their children that black people pose a threat to their safety. He plans to give a speech with the puzzlingly bland title, “Politics and Intelligence.”

I laughed at "puzzlingly bland". SPLC wants a better HATE title to put in its fundraising pitches


Anonymous at 1:00 AM on August 20, 2018 | #10706 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 9:34 AM on August 20, 2018 | #10710 | reply | quote

Paul Joseph Watson is apparently a follower of Stoicism, brought it up at the end of a recent vid https://youtu.be/Lct8ql2zoLo


Anonymous at 11:37 AM on August 20, 2018 | #10711 | reply | quote

http://blog.rongarret.info/2009/04/why-i-am-not-unicornian.html

David Deutsch fan:

> A disclaimer: this piece is a poor paraphrase of Deutsch's argument. If it weren't protected by copyright, I would just cut-and-paste the entirety of chapter 7 of TFOR here and leave it at that. I asked Deutsch once to put Chapter 7 on the web as a service to humanity but he declined. I cannot hope to reproduce the clarity and completeness of Deutch's argument (which is really Popper's argument), though I'll certainly give it my best shot.

But he doesn't get epistemology:

> R: That's right, it can't. Science can't *disprove* the existence of *anything*. What science can do is to show, in a philosophically justifiable way, that certain things are *extremely unlikely*.

But just a few lines earlier he'd quoted just one paragraph from DD as fair use, and included a bolded line in it:

> **No valid form of reasoning can logically rule out such possibilities, or even prove them unlikely** [emphasis added]

Then he turns around and says what science can do is show that things are unlikely. :(


curi at 11:54 AM on August 20, 2018 | #10712 | reply | quote

My friend and I make sandwiches differently.


Anonymous at 2:24 PM on August 20, 2018 | #10713 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 4:22 PM on August 20, 2018 | #10714 | reply | quote

New George Reisman ebook (115 pages):

Marxism/Socialism, A Sociopathic Philosophy Conceived In Gross Error And Ignorance, Culminating In Economic Chaos, Enslavement, Terror, And Mass Murder: A Contribution To Its Death

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GN8WJB1/?tag=curi04-20

Amazon description looks amazing. Great mix of marketing and actually explaining ideas, not just fluff.


curi at 10:04 AM on August 21, 2018 | #10715 | reply | quote

I posted about an issue with screenflow 8 mouse cursors.

https://telestreamforum.forumbee.com/t/q5rng3


Anonymous at 10:32 AM on August 21, 2018 | #10716 | reply | quote

The leftist media says that Trump is going to destroy the world economy and also cause a recession from his trade wars. Is there some truth to it. Should I be scared?


FF at 11:08 AM on August 21, 2018 | #10717 | reply | quote

#10717 No. If you have specific concerns you should explain or quote them.


Anonymous at 12:40 PM on August 21, 2018 | #10718 | reply | quote

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/08/gofundme-cancels-robert-spencers-withdrawal-of-funds-refunds-donations-without-explanation

> GoFundMe cancels Robert Spencer’s withdrawal of funds, refunds donations, without explanation

He tried to use GoFundMe to fund some videos after Patreon dumped him and blamed Mastercard.


Anonymous at 1:04 PM on August 21, 2018 | #10719 | reply | quote

#10719 This stuff is scary. Spencer says:

> In reading histories of the Third Reich I was always struck by how quickly — in just a matter of months — Germany went from being a free, democratic state to an authoritarian dictatorship, right under everyone’s noses in 1933. I always marveled at how fast and easy it was to destroy freedom. I don’t marvel any more. It is happening to us right now, and most people neither notice nor care. The authoritarian Left is stamping out all dissenting voices. It will soon be even worse: people who don’t hold the accepted opinions will not be able to hold jobs, have bank accounts, buy from various outlets, etc. Think this is hysterical and will never happen here? Watch.

I think Omnipotent Government by Mises explains what happened in Germany better and it wasn't an overnight thing, but still there is tons of cause for concern (and the current US problems have been buildings for decades)


Anonymous at 1:05 PM on August 21, 2018 | #10720 | reply | quote

Research being done on using technology for finding buried mines to help self driving cars deal with snow https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/08/how-self-driving-cars-could-use-mine-detecting-tech-to-see-the-road/


Anonymous at 3:19 PM on August 21, 2018 | #10721 | reply | quote

crypto is a bunch of scams that harm regular folks.

https://twitter.com/patio11/status/1032020250013753344


Anonymous at 3:30 PM on August 21, 2018 | #10722 | reply | quote

Bye IDW

After reading Sam Harris' anti-capitalism, I posted Reisman's new pro-capitalism arguments to the IDW subreddit. It was blocked by the moderator's as off-topic, so I think I'm done with the subreddit. (IDW refers to a list of thinkers, including Harris, Jordan Peterson, and some other people who desperately need the information Reisman offers.)


curi at 4:47 PM on August 21, 2018 | #10723 | reply | quote

https://www.meforum.org/articles/2018/after-isis-how-the-won-even-though-they-were-defe

> We were told that people joined ISIS out of “alienation” or just because they are poor, but when we actually got to interview ISIS members when they were arrested or detained in Iraq and Syria, what media discovered was that these are not poor people suffering discrimination. These are often middle-class and college-educated, sometimes converts to Islamist extremism, who relished the idea of selling slaves and murdering people. They saw traveling to Iraq and Syria to be a kind of vacation where they would get a nice house, emptied of its inhabitants and confiscated from minorities, and they would get slaves and relax.


Anonymous at 5:01 PM on August 21, 2018 | #10724 | reply | quote

I preordered but others should read this to see if they want the book:

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/21/exclusive-excerpt-ann-coulters-resistance-futile/

> Exclusive Excerpt from Ann Coulter’s ‘Resistance is Futile!’ — Trump Is Hitler Times Infinity


Anonymous at 5:19 PM on August 21, 2018 | #10725 | reply | quote

Disenchantment is a new netflix cartoon from the creator of the Simpsons and Futurama. It's very bad. I watched 3 episodes. The main characters change personalities for the joke of the moment, rather than being consistent. It has lots of jokes about getting drunk and friend zoning guys. It's mean. It's routinely violent. One scene ridicules peace. The main character is a bad person – in her introductory scene they are trying to show her as a *tough* female, but show her *cheating at cards and starting a fight*, and not like a sly criminal, but like someone who thinks she's being cute and doesn't really realize the difference between criminal and non-criminal ways to have fun.


Anonymous at 5:36 PM on August 21, 2018 | #10726 | reply | quote

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/271101/twitter-censors-david-horowitz-calling-out-islamic-daniel-greenfield

> TWITTER CENSORS DAVID HOROWITZ FOR CALLING OUT ISLAMIC ANTI-SEMITISM

> David Horowitz was censored for tweeting, “But if you're a Muslim, you might not want to be sworn in on a Judeo-Christian bible, since Islam has conducted a 1500 year war against Christians and Jews, is calling for death to Israel and has slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Christians recently.”


Anonymous at 11:38 PM on August 21, 2018 | #10727 | reply | quote

#10730 https://new.reddit.com/r/IntellectualDarkWeb/comments/98yn8p/sam_harris_vs_capitalism/

>My issue is that right wing libertarian philosophy, just like much of existentialism, is based on the presupposition that humans are much more powerful than they are. Modern behavior economics, neuroscience, psychology, evolutionary biology and genetics completely destroys the foundation of these philosophies, which is that humans can be the authors of their own life in and of themselves

These fields that share the negation of free will, are they the mainstream ideas on human behaviour?


Guilherme at 10:05 AM on August 22, 2018 | #10736 | reply | quote

FI discord chatroom:

https://discord.gg/PsF8W78


curi at 10:08 AM on August 22, 2018 | #10737 | reply | quote

#10736 Yes I think those errors are mainstream. At least mainstream among "intellectuals" and "elites". It's different among deplorable, Christian, Trump voters, who don't have much voice in the media...


Anonymous at 10:09 AM on August 22, 2018 | #10738 | reply | quote

SPLC fucking over FPM

jesus, this is really bad. they're reduced to asking ppl to mail in checks.


Anonymous at 10:14 AM on August 22, 2018 | #10739 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 12:00 PM on August 22, 2018 | #10742 | reply | quote

Anonymous at 12:43 PM on August 22, 2018 | #10743 | reply | quote

Anonymous at 3:24 PM on August 22, 2018 | #10754 | reply | quote

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/08/soros-funded-social-media-censorship-plan-aims-to-silence-all-dissenters-from-the-hard-left-agenda

> Soros-funded social media censorship plan aims to silence all dissenters from the hard-Left agenda

> The recent wave of censorship of conservative voices on the internet by tech giants Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Apple mirrors a plan concocted by a coalition of George Soros-funded, progressive groups to take back power in Washington from President Trump’s administration.

> President Donald Trump himself was affected, with his engagement on Facebook dropping by 45 percent.

> A study in June by Gateway Pundit found Facebook had eliminated 93 percent of the traffic of top conservative news outlets.

RIP 93% of conservative news outlet traffic on Facebook. **jesus fucking christ**. this isn't standard, ignorable political bickering. they're out for blood and their schemes are quite far along.


Anonymous at 3:27 PM on August 22, 2018 | #10755 | reply | quote

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5ZBm7VXKYY

> Gamestop is nasty.

meh.

i worked for RadioShack years ago and they had a policy of trying to upsell every single person who came in the door to cell phones. even if the person just wanted batteries! i wasn't there long...


Anonymous at 11:38 PM on August 22, 2018 | #10777 | reply | quote

Anonymous at 12:00 AM on August 23, 2018 | #10779 | reply | quote

(simulators is a reference to programmers of a simulation under the simulation hypothesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulation_hypothesis , which is a popular board meme)

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058639&mc=56&forum_id=2#36666820


Anonymous at 5:06 AM on August 23, 2018 | #10788 | reply | quote

Alan said:

https://conjecturesandrefutations.com/2018/07/23/overreaching-example-psychopaths/

> For example, beliefs don’t cause behaviour. A person chooses behaviour and he may take his beliefs into account when making that choice. Saying the behaviour is caused by belief imports a lower level concept, causation, into a situation where higher level concepts like choices are relevant. In addition, animals don’t have beliefs since they can’t understand explanations but they exhibit behaviours. So some behaviours arise despite the absence of beliefs.

can he or someone else elaborate on this?

I like the anti-reductionist theme and the emphasis on choice, but at some level a person's behaviors must be made in light of their beliefs, no? (I'm nitpicking here in particular with "may take his beliefs into account." Seems more like a MUST to me, like you can't really act without taking beliefs into account).

in choosing to do something, people act according to a belief that their choice will have some chance of bringing about some consequence. like if i choose to make a grilled cheese, i'm acting on the belief that if i place cheese and butter on a sandwich and grill it then i will wind up with a grilled cheese.

even if people have contradictory beliefs on what to do regarding the same issue, their actual behavior reflects some set of their beliefs, doesn't it?

i don't think you can make some strictly reductionistic model and say "Oh with X beliefs you get Y behavior output" or anything like that. but it seems to me like stuff like beliefs, choice, awareness of the world, etc, are all tightly bound up in an ongoing feedback loop.

so for some given situation, you observe it, you have some beliefs about how to behave in it, you act and then maybe modify your beliefs based on feedback.

thoughts?


Anonymous at 6:51 AM on August 23, 2018 | #10792 | reply | quote

Economics Thought Experiments

for thought experiments relevant to actual economics, there is an explanation for both the phenomenon depicted in the thought experiment and why it might get disrupted in real life.

for example, one can talk meaningfully about the tendency of levels of profit in different lines of industry to become similar. because there exist capital markets of people seeking the most return on their dollar, any big profit in one industry relative to another will cause capital to leave the less profitable industries and go towards the more profitable industries. this will enable expanded production in the more profitable industry due to the new capital, which will enable more goods to be made at a lower cost, which will enable prices to be reduced. simultaneously, the withdrawal of capital from the previously less profitable lines of business will lead to a reduction in what can be produced in that line of business.

and while the tendency towards equalization of profit in different lines of industry exists, it's never actually achieved IRL, cuz everything is shifting and changing IRL -- consumer preferences, availability of various forms of capital, technology, availability of talent in a particular field, political interference in the economy, etc, etc. so different lines of industry have different profits in fact.

economics thought experiments purporting to be a guide to what we should do in real life in terms of policy should provide a detailed account of exactly how their hypothetical scenarios relate to the real world and how they deviate.


Anonymous at 9:12 AM on August 23, 2018 | #10794 | reply | quote

Anonymous at 10:23 AM on August 23, 2018 | #10795 | reply | quote

Lauren Southern's next documentary is going to be about immigration in Europe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxfUW6tqrhc


Anonymous at 12:47 PM on August 23, 2018 | #10799 | reply | quote

#10794 I agree.

#10792 I think human action is based on human ideas. I think when Alan said "beliefs don’t cause behaviour" he meant that you still have free will. That means you can e.g. choose not to rob and murder all the business owners even though you have Marxist beliefs and have the power to do it. That is a choice many have made, to their credit – and, as George Reisman says, they should therefore stop calling themselves socialists since they are unwilling to do what is required to take the means of production away from private ownership on a society-wide scale.


curi at 12:51 PM on August 23, 2018 | #10800 | reply | quote

#10792

>> For example, beliefs don’t cause behaviour. A person chooses behaviour and he may take his beliefs into account when making that choice. Saying the behaviour is caused by belief imports a lower level concept, causation, into a situation where higher level concepts like choices are relevant. In addition, animals don’t have beliefs since they can’t understand explanations but they exhibit behaviours. So some behaviours arise despite the absence of beliefs.

>

> can he or someone else elaborate on this?

>

> I like the anti-reductionist theme and the emphasis on choice, but at some level a person's behaviors must be made in light of their beliefs, no? (I'm nitpicking here in particular with "may take his beliefs into account." Seems more like a MUST to me, like you can't really act without taking beliefs into account).

You can adopt a belief and then choose not to act on it. And if you adopt rational ways of assessing ideas then you can make better choices. So thinking about your actions in terms of choices is better than saying you have to act on some belief, which is true but doesn't help you choose.


oh my god it's turpentine at 1:25 PM on August 23, 2018 | #10807 | reply | quote

https://daringfireball.net/2018/08/new_low-cost_laptop_to_succeed_macbook_air

> Let’s Really Think About This ‘New Low-Cost Laptop to Succeed MacBook Air’ Thing

Big article.


Anonymous at 1:36 PM on August 23, 2018 | #10808 | reply | quote

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2018/08/21/google-data-collection

> A dormant, stationary Android phone (with the Chrome browser active in the background) communicated location information to Google 340 times during a 24-hour period, or at an average of 14 data communications per hour. In fact, location information constituted 35 percent of all the data samples sent to Google.

> For comparison’s sake, a similar experiment found that on an iOS device with Safari but not Chrome, Google could not collect any appreciable data unless a user was interacting with the device. Moreover, an idle Android phone running the Chrome browser sends back to Google nearly fifty times as many data requests per hour as an idle iOS phone running Safari.


Anonymous at 2:25 PM on August 23, 2018 | #10815 | reply | quote

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Derandomamber at 5:54 PM on August 23, 2018 | #10817 | reply | quote

> YOU NEED TO ANSWER MEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

no


Anonymous at 5:57 PM on August 23, 2018 | #10818 | reply | quote

Nelson Mandela's Economic Policy (1990)

https://youtu.be/ryO3En-zG68?t=728

Woman asks a question:

>[...] What can assure me as a human being, and a concerned African american that the ANC will indeed have a fiscal [?] policy that will continue the use of the resources of South Africa in a meaningful way. Or should I put it more succinctly? Will your economy be based on the Marxist system, socialism, or capitalism? Or both?

Nelson Mandela:

>I knew that that was the question that you wanted to ask. I'm happy that you had the courage to put it directly.

>We are not concerned with models, we are not concerned with labels, we are practical men and women whose solutions are dictated by the actual condition existing in our countries. As somebody has said: "we do not care whether the cat is black or white as long as it can catch mice".

>What we want to achieve is a healthy and vibrant economy which can ensure full economy for our people, maximal production and the development of social justice We want it to rectify the imbalances that exists in our economy.

>One of the companies owns more than 75% of the shares quoted at the Johannesburg stock exchange. This is illustrative of how our economy is organized. [...] the resources of the country are monopolized by a white minority. Even in that minority, by a few individuals. Wheres the masses of the people, especially the blacks, are left poor, redeem with diseases, illiteracy, without educational facilities. We want to develop an economy which will put an end to that . And will leave to other people to put a label, if they so wish.


Guilherme at 5:59 PM on August 23, 2018 | #10819 | reply | quote

#10819

>We are not concerned with models, we are not concerned with labels, we are practical men and women whose solutions are dictated by the actual condition existing in our countries. As somebody has said: "we do not care whether the cat is black or white as long as it can catch mice".

We are only concerned with our ends, never mind the means to achieve it. we are practical, we don't concern ourselves with theoretical concerns like how reality works and what are the proper means to achieve our ends.


Guilherme at 6:07 PM on August 23, 2018 | #10820 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 7:00 PM on August 23, 2018 | #10823 | reply | quote

should i get a robot vacuum?


Anonymous at 8:27 AM on August 24, 2018 | #10830 | reply | quote

if you set up this as a bookmark you can easily do a site-restricted google search on the current site you're on in your browser https://pastebin.com/mVrmkgB2


Anonymous at 9:23 AM on August 24, 2018 | #10831 | reply | quote

added textarea auto resizing based on http://usefulangle.com/post/41/javascript-textarea-autogrow-adjust-height-based-on-content

set max height to 1000px and made scroll bars appear again past that.

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curi at 10:53 AM on August 24, 2018 | #10832 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 12:27 PM on August 24, 2018 | #10837 | reply | quote

> The SPLC can no longer be fairly termed a nonpartisan watchdog group. It has become a hate group itself. Actual political violence is of no interest to it unless it can be deployed in service of the SPLC’s thinly veiled campaign to damage the Right. Bafflement ensued when, in 2012, National Review’s Charles C. W. Cooke called up the SPLC to ask whether the outfit was adding Occupy Wall Street to the list of hate groups it tracks after three anarchists linked to the movement were caught plotting to blow up a bridge in Cleveland (all three later pleaded guilty). An SPLC flack explained that his group “only tracks those who commit violence or who seek to destroy whole systems in the name of an ideology.” Since this was exactly what the Occupy fanatics were up to, Cooke was puzzled. “They were anarchists,” the spokesman told Cooke. Yeah. So?

> Well, the spokesman added sheepishly, “We’re not really set up to cover the extreme Left.”

https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2018/09/10/southern-poverty-law-center-essentially-a-fraud/


Anonymous at 2:13 PM on August 24, 2018 | #10838 | reply | quote

#10838

> The SPLC can no longer be fairly termed a nonpartisan watchdog group.

Was it ever? It certainly wasn't a few years ago.


Anonymous at 2:42 PM on August 24, 2018 | #10839 | reply | quote

Anyone know a good place to get writing feedback?

I tried Scribophile and my account got removed because Heuristic World is not an approved pen name.


Andy at 6:26 PM on August 24, 2018 | #10840 | reply | quote

#10840 Here. Also I think there's lots of decent forums for fiction writers, but I guess that's not what you mean.


Anonymous at 6:31 PM on August 24, 2018 | #10841 | reply | quote

What are the rules about asking for writing feedback here?


Andy at 7:36 PM on August 24, 2018 | #10842 | reply | quote

> What are the rules about asking for writing feedback here?

there are no rules about that, this is a free speech and open discussion zone.


curi at 7:47 PM on August 24, 2018 | #10843 | reply | quote

#10840 Anyone know a good place to get writing feedback?

Theres the discussion group

http://fallibleideas.com/discussion


Anonymous at 10:15 PM on August 24, 2018 | #10844 | reply | quote

I like free speech. I don’t know what the limits should be for like slander or lying.

I dislike how hostile people are towards people who don’t fully agree with the topics that our culture think of as taboo. I think people should be better at explaining those topics and more willing to then they should for non taboo topics, cuz if it’s so clear what is right, then shouldn’t it be easy to explain to people who disagree?

I post like 1 word on the public internet for every 10000 I read probably.

I wonder if the “how many words you wright vs how many you read” ratio is a good thing to keep track of. Anyone have thoughts on how useful that ratio is?

I wonder what Elliot’s thoughts on anime is and if he still watches it, he seems to reference to anime a lot in his older writings, and a bit today still.

I read the “what do you think” and “this is a free speech zone” then wrote what I thought. Was very close to not writing anything at all tho, I’m usually very passive about writing. I think I’m constantly worried about being embarrassed or not knowing enough.

Should I have given this post a title? I don’t think so. I’m not sure when you should give your post a title on the open discussion tho.


Anonymous at 10:23 PM on August 24, 2018 | #10845 | reply | quote

I have watched very little anime for over 5 years. I found lots of shows were too similar to things I'd already seen (sometimes in obvious ways, but also sometimes in ways that are hard to explain).

I usually don't title posts. I don't think it's an important feature. I considered removing it. I wouldn't worry about it.

> I think I’m constantly worried about being embarrassed or not knowing enough.

Understandable. People can be very mean about such things. The FI community has some different attitudes, but not entirely, and those can be scary in other ways since people aren't familiar with how to handle them.

> I like free speech. I don’t know what the limits should be for like slander or lying.

A starting point: can you show harm/damages in court?

> I dislike how hostile people are towards people who don’t fully agree with the topics that our culture think of as taboo. I think people should be better at explaining those topics and more willing to then they should for non taboo topics, cuz if it’s so clear what is right, then shouldn’t it be easy to explain to people who disagree?

yes

> I wonder if the “how many words you wright vs how many you read” ratio is a good thing to keep track of. Anyone have thoughts on how useful that ratio is?

I'd suggest between 10:1 in favor of reading and 10:1 in favor of writing. I think tons of people skew too much towards reading, though there are also those who read very little.


curi at 10:38 PM on August 24, 2018 | #10846 | reply | quote

Angry guy from discord chat reviews FI discord chatroom. I respond in comments with log of me talking about liberalism.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IntellectualDarkWeb/comments/9a8v19/a_review_of_a_chat_room/


curi at 12:53 PM on August 25, 2018 | #10848 | reply | quote

> Socialism cant be found in books.

said the socialist. lol wtf.

https://conjecturesandrefutations.com/2018/08/25/people-before-profit/


Anonymous at 6:30 PM on August 25, 2018 | #10854 | reply | quote

#10856 lots of people flame instead of arguing :/

the other guy in comments was better

https://www.reddit.com/r/thedavidpakmanshow/comments/97fpge/philosophy_tube_is_a_proviolence_proantifa_fraud/e4drs14/

but he didn't quote any specific mistakes from my video to reply to (as i *did* video quote things from the video i was criticizing, and respond to them). he wrote 6 paragraphs, some long, but it's all his own summary with no timestamps or quotes, no engaging with any exact thing i said (the most specific thing he mentions, he actually concedes i'm right about). it also tries to deny that BAMN is part of antifa, based on basically "maybe it's not, you didn't prove it was" speculation and no research into BAMN. he also admits that philosophy tube was defending some violence and spends tons of time attacking credentials (i'm a *writer*. i have plenty of writing he could review if he wanted to see and judge my knowledge. i have no idea if the philosophy tube guy writes philosophy or not. surely writing counts more than videos for serious philosophy.)


curi at 10:14 PM on August 25, 2018 | #10857 | reply | quote

https://vdare.com/posts/politico-s-eliana-johnson-can-t-get-details-of-claremont-email-brouhaha-or-white-nationalism-right

>The Claremont Institute shuttered an email list after an exchange over white nationalism blew up


Anonymous at 5:43 AM on August 26, 2018 | #10863 | reply | quote

heartise shares a perspective about the effects of mass immigration

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2018/08/24/the-shape-of-apocalypto-conquest/

EXCERPT:

> And then you hear your wife pull up and the car door slam. She walks in all business, herding your three children in to go upstairs and change out of swimming clothes. You notice: no one is wet, or has been wet.

> “What happened? Is everything all right?”

> “No, it’s not all f**king right. You won’t believe what happened. I’m standing there juggling towels and floaties and the Parks and Rec guys are telling me it’s now $10 a kid for a day swim pass, so I roll my eyes and I’m digging in my purse to get my card out, and then all these little mexican kids go flying through the front door and I’m like ‘Hey, why aren’t you telling them they have to pay’ and the guy is like ‘They have red wristbands” and I say “So?” and he says “it’s a program we have here at the Aquatic Center for disadvantaged youths so they get the benefit of swimming and lessons in a safe environment” and they just kept piling in and I’m thinking we’re already paying through the nose in taxes, and now I have to cough up money for OUR KIDS WHO WERE BORN AND RAISED IN THIS TOWN so these people can swarm the pool for free.”

> You’re hoping she’s done there, but she’s not. You can feel Sunday slipping away. The “boys” can hear everything going on, but you can bet your ass they’re staying out of this one. She continues:

> “And there were so many of them, and they were SCREAMING AND YELLING and it was chaos, and I just, I just, couldn’t do it, so I told the kids we were leaving and I turned around and walked out of there. Then, before we get to the car, James starts crying, says it’s ‘no fair’ and that I promised we’d go swimming today all week, which is true”

> And she’s looking at you, because, you know the deal, you are responsible for fixing this. You think. Or maybe she’s just venting. But you do what you can.

> That night, you get the Sunday Night Blues and Monday morning comes around, and you’re driving into work and you’re looking around your town and you’re thinking:

> This isn’t my town any more. I don’t know what to do. I don’t know what to do.

> Am I racist? Jesus, am I becoming one of those guys. I sure sound like one of those guys.


Anonymous at 8:05 AM on August 26, 2018 | #10864 | reply | quote

oh my god it's turpentine at 8:42 AM on August 26, 2018 | #10865 | reply | quote

i was trying to play a game using Steam in home streaming, with a windows PC as the host and a Mac as the client (cuz my mac's monitor is much much better quality than the windows monitor i currently own)

i was having some trouble with using an xbox one controller. i actually had the controller connected by bluetooth directly to the Windows host. i realized the issue was that even though the PC and mac are pretty close, the bluetooth signal from the controller was not quite making it to the PC with 100% consistency.

it turns out that since the current generation of xbox one controllers support bluetooth and don't need a proprietary receiver with its own driver support, you can just connect an xbox one controller to a Mac directly like any old bluetooth device e.g. https://newatlas.com/how-to-use-xbox-one-controller-mac/47159/

(and then steam does the input mapping for you if you are doing in home streaming like iam)

so that's cool.


Anonymous at 9:24 AM on August 26, 2018 | #10866 | reply | quote

lefties sometimes point to the fact that a lot of the housing construction that happens in urban areas is luxury housing to say the free market can't solve the "housing crisis."

if some city needs 100,000 units of more housing to satisfy demand but the govt only lets people build 1,000 units, then the developers will of course go for luxury since that's the most profitable give the constraint on the number of units that the government has imposed.

the mass middle of market is where the big profits are but you need BIG NUMBERS to get those big profits. if the govt interferes with the construction of MASS amounts of housing, then of course developers will focus on luxury.

if, to take another example, there was some dumb law that said only 1,000 smartphones a year could be built, apple wouldn't even bother with them -- they'd be novelty toys for rich people made by luxury specialists and cost $10k+ or something like that.


Anonymous at 12:21 PM on August 26, 2018 | #10890 | reply | quote

> if, to take another example, there was some dumb law that said only 1,000 smartphones a year could be built, apple wouldn't even bother with them -- they'd be novelty toys for rich people made by luxury specialists and cost $10k+ or something like that.

And, in those circumstances, if Apple did produce 1000 smartphones, all of them would be iPhone X with max storage. Apple would prefer the top end model over the other models.


Anonymous at 12:23 PM on August 26, 2018 | #10891 | reply | quote

#10891 yeah. and hey at least their ASP would be killer ;-)


Anonymous at 12:28 PM on August 26, 2018 | #10892 | reply | quote

https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/9ahy71/megathread_mass_shooting_at_madden_tournament_in/

> [Megathread] Mass shooting at Madden tournament in Jacksonville, FL.

Leffen's comments:

Has he actually looked up per-capita mass shooting deaths in European countries? no.


Anonymous at 2:25 PM on August 26, 2018 | #10893 | reply | quote

#10893

Also, if you're going to compare the risk, then you should be looking at overall risk of violent crime, not just gun crime risk.


oh my god it's turpentine at 2:42 PM on August 26, 2018 | #10894 | reply | quote

the recent comments page now includes a list of the most recently active 10 topics. http://curi.us/comments/recent


curi at 3:44 PM on August 26, 2018 | #10898 | reply | quote

https://www.wsj.com/articles/venezuelas-tyranny-of-bad-ideas-1535311573

paywalled but quoting the newsletter which had the start:

>Socialism was a proven failure, but Hugo Chávez got his countrymen to try it

>by Daniel Pipes

>Ideas run the world: good ones create freedom and wealth; bad ones, oppression and poverty. Sure, money is important, but money is but a means to an end. Ideas are the end. You are not what you eat; you are what you think.

>Politicians in particular fall under the sway of ideas. As John Maynard Keynes put it, "Practical men who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influence, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist. Madmen in authority, who hear voices in the air, are distilling their frenzy from some academic scribbler of a few years back. ... it is ideas, not vested interests, which are dangerous for good or evil."

>The story of Venezuela, brought from affluence to misery by its own madman in authority, makes this point with singular clarity. In 1914, the discovery of oil on Venezuelan land brought the country vast revenues and produced a relatively free economy. By 1950, Venezuela enjoyed the fourth-highest per capita income in the world, behind only the U.S., Switzerland, and New Zealand. As late as 1980, it boasted the world's fastest growing economy in the 20thcentury. In 2001, Venezuela still ranked as Latin America's wealthiest country.


Anonymous at 7:15 PM on August 26, 2018 | #10907 | reply | quote

#10907

Here's the whole thing

> Ideas run the world. Good ones create freedom and wealth; bad ones, oppression and poverty. You are not what you eat, but what you think.

> Politicians in particular fall under the sway of ideas. As John Maynard Keynes put it, “Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influence, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist. Madmen in authority, who hear voices in the air, are distilling their frenzy from some academic scribbler of a few years back. . . . It is ideas, not vested interests, which are dangerous for good or evil.”

> The story of Venezuela makes this point with singular clarity. In 1914 the discovery of oil brought the country vast revenues and produced a relatively free economy. By 1950 Venezuela enjoyed the fourth-highest per capita income in the world, behind only the U.S., Switzerland and New Zealand. As late as 1980, it boasted the world’s fastest-growing economy in the 20th century. In 2001 Venezuela still ranked as Latin America’s wealthiest country.

> Venezuela’s troubles, however, had begun long before. Starting around 1958, government interference in the economy, including price and exchange controls, higher taxes, and restrictions on property rights, led to decades of stagnation, with per capita real income declining 0.13% from 1960-97. Still, it remained a normal, functioning country.

> Today the country with the world’s largest oil reserves suffers from a severely contracting economy, runaway inflation, despotism, mass emigration, criminality, disease, hunger and starvation, with circumstances deteriorating daily. Venezuela’s economy contracted by 16% in 2016, 14% last year and a predicted 15% in 2018. Inflation was at 112% in 2015 and 2,800% at the end of last year. Economist Steve Hanke finds an annualized rate of around 65,000% for 2018, making Venezuela’s one of the most severe hyperinflations ever. Food shortages led to an average weight loss among Venezuelans of 18 pounds in 2016 and 24 pounds in 2017.

> –– ADVERTISEMENT ––

> What caused this crisis? Foreign invasion, civil war, natural disaster, substitutes for oil, or agricultural plagues? No, bad ideas, pure and simple.

> Socialism might have been a proven failure globally, but Hugo Chávez convinced Venezuelans to try it. On becoming president in 1999, he stole, dominated, polarized and jailed. Benefiting from about $1 trillion in oil sales during his 14 years as president, he had the means to launch massive social spending programs to secure votes. He could even afford to kill the goose laying golden eggs, replacing competent professionals at the government-owned oil company with agents, stooges and sycophants. In the grandest socialist tradition, his daughter María accumulated a fortune estimated at $4.2 billion in 2015, according to Venezuelan press reports.

> “The trouble with socialism,” Margaret Thatcher once observed, “is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.” Chávez pre-empted that problem by seeking treatment for his cancer in Havana, where, Fox News reports, he “was assassinated by Cuban malpractice.” He died in March 2013, about a year before oil prices tumbled, and conveniently bequeathed the disaster that followed to Nicolás Maduro, his still more brutal and incompetent handpicked successor. Once oil revenues shrank, the true costs of Chávez’ bankrupt ideas became clear. Venezuela is now sinking into totalitarianism, using military force to keep socialism afloat.

> Bad ideas have always existed, but they acquired new importance with the advent of liberalism in the late 17th century. Before then, conservatism—respecting tradition while adapting it to new circumstances—had prevailed. An individual king’s or religious leader’s besotted vision could progress only so far before convention rolled it back. Liberalism rendered tradition optional by optimistically deeming each person capable to think through the great issues from first principles on his own.

> Radical theories proliferated, especially during the French Revolution. The floodgates were opened for ideas unmoored from experience and common sense, such as conspiracy theories. These ideas incubated through the 19th century and came to terrible fruition after World War I with fascism, Nazism, socialism and communism. As historian Paul Johnson notes, “The worst of all despotisms is the heartless tyranny of ideas.”

> The roll call of tyrants who have imposed their own philosophies over the past century is depressingly long, including Mussolini, Lenin, Stalin, Tojo, Hitler, Ho, Mao, Kim, Nasser, Pol Pot, Mugabe, Assad, Saddam Hussein, Khomeini, and Chávez. They fully understood their own game; as Stalin reportedly observed, “Ideas are more powerful than guns.” Each one devastated his fiefdom.

> If bad ideas bring horror, their antidote lies in conservative, modest, tried-and-tested ideas that respect tradition and human nature; not in revolutionary lurches and grandiose experiments, but in incremental improvements on customary practices.

> At a moment when many Democrats are ignoring the lessons of Venezuela and swooning over socialism, it’s back to the barricades in the war of ideas.

> Mr. Pipes is president of the Middle East Forum


Anonymous at 7:43 PM on August 26, 2018 | #10908 | reply | quote

Number 8 on this list of immigrant mass shootings seems very iffy http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2018-02-21.html


Anonymous at 5:53 AM on August 27, 2018 | #10912 | reply | quote

I'm trying to learn SSBM. Is it better to use X, Y, or up on the control stick to jump? I haven't played long enough to have a preference. Which approach do most players use?


Anonymous at 10:11 AM on August 27, 2018 | #10913 | reply | quote

#10913 Very few players use control stick to jump. Don't use it. X and Y are both fine, that's mostly a matter of preference. Once you pick a character you could look at some of their tech and see if it's easier with X or Y (like i find it easier to do peach float stuff with Y, where you need to hold jump to float and still hit A during that, but i prefer X in general).


Anonymous at 10:13 AM on August 27, 2018 | #10914 | reply | quote

> “Trump reportedly believed that he had and Erdogan struck a deal for Brunson’s release. Erdogan told Trump he would free Brunson if Israel released a Turkish national, Ebru Ozkan, who was detained in Israel pending trial after being arrested for operating a money laundering scheme for Hamas.

> After meeting with Erdogan, on July 14 Trump phoned Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and asked him to free Ozkan. Israel freed Ozkan and sent her back to Turkey the next day.

> So Erdogan ransomed Brunson for a Hamas terrorist. This is not the sort of behavior you would expect to see in a NATO member and a long-term strategic ally.

> But that, of course, wasn’t the worst of it. After securing Ozkan’s release, Erdogan double-crossed Trump. Rather than free Brunson and repatriate him as he promised to do, Erdogan moved Brunson from prison to house arrest and barred him from leaving Turkey. That is, he kept him hostage.

> And now he expects to ransom him a second time, for a bigger fish: Fethullah Gulen.”

Caroline Glick: Andrew Brunson Case Proves U.S.-Turkey Alliance Has Been Over for Years | Breitbart

https://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2018/08/19/caroline-glick-andrew-brunson-case-proves-u-s-turkey-alliance-has-been-over-for-years/


Anonymous at 12:43 PM on August 27, 2018 | #10916 | reply | quote

> On Wednesday, China-based bikeshare company Mobike confirmed that after several months of operations it is leaving D.C. before a city-run pilot program for dockless bikes and scooters ends at the end of August. The company says it is collecting its orange and silver bikes and will refund customers who prepaid for rides.

> Mobike Vice President of North America Operations Chris Martin told WAMU that the District Department of Transportation’s (DDOT) 400-vehicle-per-operator limit hindered the company’s growth.

> “We probably should’ve [ended it] even sooner,” Martin told the radio station, without foreclosing the possibility that Mobike could one day return to D.C. if regulations change. He said the pilot program rules were more restrictive than those in other American cities.

> Mobike is the second dockless operator to announce this week that it is quitting the District. On Tuesday, Ofo—which, like Mobike, is based in China—said it could not sustain its operations in D.C. and would instead focus its efforts on a few “viable” markets in the U.S.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/dc.curbed.com/platform/amp/2018/7/26/17616606/dockless-bike-share-mobike-washington-availability


Anonymous at 12:47 PM on August 27, 2018 | #10918 | reply | quote

Horowitz got online donations back. leftists backed down, for now, in this case. https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/271154/david-horowitz-freedom-center-declares-victory-frontpagemagcom


Anonymous at 1:19 PM on August 27, 2018 | #10919 | reply | quote

#10919 👍

The left will be back though. Maybe the next pressure campaign will be to disable automatic recurring donations to certain groups, so people can't #AutoDonateToHate


Anonymous at 1:32 PM on August 27, 2018 | #10920 | reply | quote

https://www.justfactsdaily.com/illegal-immigrants-far-more-likely-to-commit-serious-crimes-than-us-public/

>First, U.S. Census data from 2011 to 2015 shows that noncitizens are 7% more likely than the U.S. population to be incarcerated in adult correctional facilities. This alone debunks the common media narrative, but it only scratches the surface of serious criminality by illegal immigrants.

>Second, Department of Justice data reveals that in the decade ending in 2015, the U.S. deported at least 1.5 million noncitizens who were convicted of committing crimes in the U.S. (Table 41). This amounts to 10 times the number of noncitizens in U.S. adult correctional facilities during 2015.

>Third, Department of Justice data shows that convicts released from prison have an average of 3.9 prior convictions, not including convictions that led to their imprisonment (Table 5). This means that people in prison are often repeat offenders—but as shown by the previous fact, masses of convicted criminals have been deported, making it hard for them to reoffend and end up in a U.S. prison.

>In other words, even after deporting 10 times more noncitizens convicted of crimes than are in U.S. prisons and jails, they are still 7% more likely to be incarcerated than the general public. This indicates a level of criminality that is multiplicatively higher than the U.S. population.


Anonymous at 1:33 PM on August 27, 2018 | #10921 | reply | quote

http://www.danielpipes.org/18452/conservativism-hidden-history

>Liberals, in contrast, are *rationalists* because they believe in each person's unlimited capacity to figure things out on his own. Tradition hardly counts: "Rather than arguing from the historical experience of nations, they set out by asserting general axioms that they believe to be true of all human beings, and that they suppose will be accepted by all human beings examining them with their native rational abilities."

That's not all liberals. That's the *radicals*.


Anonymous at 1:36 PM on August 27, 2018 | #10922 | reply | quote

https://www.wnd.com/2018/08/this-is-what-land-reform-looks-like-in-south-africa/

>The process currently in place typically begins with a “tribe” or group of individuals who band together to claim vast tracts of private property.

>If these loosely and conveniently conjoined groups know anything, it’s this: South Africa’s adapted, indigenized law allows coveted land, owned and occupied by another, to be obtained with relative ease.

...

> “Since the end of apartheid in 1994, when multi-racial elections were held,” wrote Dan McDougal of the London Times, millions of “acres of productive farmland have been transferred to black ownership. Much of it is now lying fallow, creating no economic benefit for the nation or its new owners.”

...

> Without exception, splendid enterprises that fed the country many times over have been reduced to “subsistence operations with a few mangy cattle and the odd mealie patch.”


Anonymous at 1:38 PM on August 27, 2018 | #10923 | reply | quote

https://mobile.wnd.com/2018/08/the-shocking-soros-speech-code-cartel-memo/

> Never, even in my fertile imagination, would I have guessed that we would find a smoking-gun 49-page memo revealing how George Soros operatives, including David Brock, were there at the genesis, the planning stages, with their hands on the ignition key, of the most concerted, well-funded, diabolical attack on free speech in the history of America.


Anonymous at 1:40 PM on August 27, 2018 | #10924 | reply | quote

https://amgreatness.com/2018/08/21/read-the-paper-cnn-says-is-white-supremacist/

> Fusionism was so called because it was able to construct a narrative that fused together traditionalist Burkean social conservatives and religious Christians, firstly, Cold-War hawks (Cold Warriors), secondly, and free market economic types (including libertarians like Friedman), finally, together.

Think he's ever read anything by Burke? This seems like the equivalent of citing scientific research after only reading the abstracts.

Burke pushed for reform after reform, and advocated freedom. He did value tradition appropriately, which is different than being a traditionalist conservative. He was a member of the liberal whig party, not of the conservative tories. Calling him a *social* conservative is nonsense. He was religious (like basically everyone else at the time) and presumably wasn't a fan of homosexuals like everyone else at the time) but what about his actual speeches, accomplishments and important ideas has to do with today's social conservative ideas like opposing abortion?


Anonymous at 3:01 PM on August 27, 2018 | #10925 | reply | quote

http://curi.us/2142-media-matters-memo-their-plans-to-control-all-political-speech

I started writing this as a blog comment – following up on #10924 – but converted it to a post.


curi at 3:04 PM on August 27, 2018 | #10926 | reply | quote

Child tries to folllow politeness rules, is punished by evil teacher anyways https://abc11.com/education/tarboro-child-punished-for-calling-teacher-maam-/4041588/


Anonymous at 3:50 PM on August 27, 2018 | #10927 | reply | quote

https://mailchi.mp/ben-evans/benedicts-newsletter-no-450597

> Epic, publisher of Fortnite, decided to launch on Android with a direct download rather than going though Google's app store. Entirely predictably, this came with a security hole. It's worth looking at how this works for how it bears on the broader issues. To get Fortnite, instead of going to the Google Play store, you download an installer app, and that app then downloads the rest of the game, storing it on an external storage card as it does so. But, Android allows any app on your phone complete access to anything on that card, which means that any app on your phone could insert a malicious payload into the Fortnite download as it comes in, and the Epic installer app doesn't check what's happening to the data to stop this. Why would you already have a malicious app? Well, for example, suppose you downloaded a dodgy flashlight app, and didn't give it any permissions. That flashlight app can still intercept the Fortnight download and add its own code, because the Epic installer app uses the storage card, Android lets any app access anything on the card, and the installer app doesn't check. And when your copy of 'Fortnite' asks for permissions - access to your address book, SMS, phone calls etc - you grant them, because this is Fortnite, not some random flashlight app. So. On one hand, this is why you use the app store - you rely on Google to validate this kind of stuff instead of betting on your own ability to harden your installation code. On the other, some of Google's own apps made the same underlying mistake as Epic (not checking what they're reading from the external card), and more importantly, the fact that any app on the phone can arbitrarily change other app's data on the card is a basic hole/feature that Google has included by design. (Finally, for bonus drama, Epic's miss was spotted by Google). Description of the Fortnite hack (link) and description of the the underlying issue (Link).


Anonymous at 8:33 PM on August 27, 2018 | #10931 | reply | quote

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/38347400/ns/us_news-life/t/us-judge-conn-cheerleading-not-sport/#.W4TG8C3MwWo

>Competitive cheerleading is not an official sport that colleges can use to meet gender-equity requirements, a federal judge ruled Wednesday in ordering a Connecticut school to keep its women's volleyball team.

They won't count cheerleading as a sport, even though it is, so that women get more sports than men (one extra one). One consequence is it has worse safety standards and women get hurt.


Anonymous at 8:53 PM on August 27, 2018 | #10933 | reply | quote

#10933

http://www.omnicheer.com/blog/post/cheerleading-isnt-a-sport-and-what-it-means-for-cheerleaders

>Did you know that amongst high school female athletes, cheerleading accounts for 2/3 of catastrophic injuries? Among all sports, cheerleading has the most injuries second only to football. In 2011 alone, 37,000 cheerleaders visited the emergency room.


Anonymous at 8:58 PM on August 27, 2018 | #10934 | reply | quote

#10921

>In other words, even after deporting 10 times more noncitizens convicted of crimes than are in U.S. prisons and jails, they are still 7% more likely to be incarcerated than the general public. This indicates a level of criminality that is multiplicatively higher than the U.S. population.

so people who are willing to break the law to get into the country in the first place, and break the law to stay here, are willing to break the law in other ways too? and this surprises people?


Anonymous at 9:36 PM on August 27, 2018 | #10937 | reply | quote

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3136454/

> Problems with Using the Normal Distribution – and Ways to Improve Quality and Efficiency of Data Analysis

good paper. lots of data doesn't fit the normal distribution. this is often blatant b/c there are negative numbers within 2 standard deviations of the mean, but negative values are impossible.

the paper says the underlying issue is that lots of things in the world have more to do with multiplication than addition, and they suggest using the geometric mean along with basically a standard deviation that you multiply and divide with, instead of adding and subtracting. like if the mean is 10 and the deviation is 2, then 95% of the data is in the range 2.5 to 40.

> in general, laws and processes in science and life are rather of multiplicative than additive nature.

they give some examples like chemistry stuff.


curi at 10:47 PM on August 27, 2018 | #10942 | reply | quote

http://curi.us/2143-discussion-structure

Please let me know if you see any errors in this new post. I got the text from emails and didn't reread it all. There could be a reference to FI or something that doesn't work as a blog post. (I did fix one issue like that).


curi at 12:02 PM on August 29, 2018 | #10948 | reply | quote

Anonymous at 2:26 PM on August 29, 2018 | #10949 | reply | quote

#10950 The guy wrote back:

> No, I just assumed it was something related to your Ayn Rand sites. It seems to be a critique of Jordan Peterson?

I can't even. I'm done. Someone else can reply.


Anonymous at 4:11 PM on August 29, 2018 | #10951 | reply | quote

added Kant stuff to ebooks page http://curi.us/ebooks


curi at 7:52 PM on August 29, 2018 | #10952 | reply | quote

Aero (Overwatch coach) on learning:

from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9Ioz2Bodcg


Anonymous at 4:09 PM on August 30, 2018 | #10967 | reply | quote

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2018/08/30/guilherme-rambo-iphone-xs

>> we [9to5Mac] can report with certainty that iPhone XS will be the name, the OLED model will come in two sizes including a larger version, and each will be offered in gold for the first time.

> They also have a photo of a Series 4 Apple Watch, showing off an altogether new watch face that takes advantage of the bigger display and shows at least 8 complications in addition to the time of day.

more complications sounds nice


Anonymous at 4:19 PM on August 30, 2018 | #10968 | reply | quote

How to do tech hiring:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17877763

(work sample tests good, interviews bad)


Anonymous at 12:05 AM on August 31, 2018 | #10972 | reply | quote

Anonymous at 10:33 AM on September 1, 2018 | #10979 | reply | quote

Twitter is so bad at programming. Note the duplicate message.


Anonymous at 3:24 PM on September 1, 2018 | #10984 | reply | quote

I started bicycling recently for the first time as an adult.

I've mostly been getting a feel for it riding in parking lots and along sidewalks but plan to start daring to go out on the road more soon.

Is there any bicycling stuff I should know? Common newb mistakes or misconceptions it would be good to look out for?

If it helps I am using the local bikeshare bikes. They are a 3 speed model.

I always ride with a helmet. I googled for info on appropriate seat height and used this calculator as a baseline in adjusting my seat https://www.ebicycles.com/bicycle-tools/saddle-height


🚴‍♂️ at 10:56 AM on September 3, 2018 | #11022 | reply | quote

#11022

Don't bike on the sidewalk.

Stop at stop signs. In general, follow the same traffic rules as cars.

When in doubt, be in the MIDDLE of the lane, and act like you're a car, so that no car tries to share the lane with you (and you don't try to go next to a car, either). This can be good on downhills (going fast) or when there's a bunch of traffic.

Be very careful about passing cars on the right at stoplights. They might want to turn right. This applies even if there's an actual bike lane.

If a street crossing is hard (no stop sign or light for cross traffic) or left turn is hard (there are cars around, especially with multiple lanes so you'd have to merge left into another lane), you can just get off your bike and be a pedestrian.

At 4 way stop signs with lots of traffic, the cars basically take turns (both cross traffic people go, then both people in your direction (towards you and away from you), then both cross traffic). I usually go when a car goes and I'm close enough (don't rush to catch up, just go with the car if you're already up at the front), instead of taking my own turn separately.

If something concerns you (e.g. tricky situation, steep hill up or down, or bad driver) just pull over and stop.


curi at 11:07 AM on September 3, 2018 | #11024 | reply | quote

#11024

> At 4 way stop signs with lots of traffic, the cars basically take turns (both cross traffic people go, then both people in your direction (towards you and away from you), then both cross traffic). I usually go when a car goes and I'm close enough (don't rush to catch up, just go with the car if you're already up at the front), instead of taking my own turn separately.

Thanks for all your comments. The part above that I quoted was something I found especially interesting / hadn't read elsewhere.


Anonymous at 11:45 AM on September 3, 2018 | #11026 | reply | quote

#11027 people are ridiculous. note the bad epistemology. he thinks things need to be positively proven/justified, rather than exposed to criticism. he doesn't care about criticism, just proof/evidence. so he doesn't know a single thing wrong with the essay, just doesn't seem a big pile of cites, and decides to reject it.

also his point about the false dichotomy is wrong. i think the problem is he literally doesn't know what "socialism" is. socialism is government ownership of the means of production. the nazi government were effectively the owners of the means of production because they controlled their use just as an owner would. so that's essentially socialism. the argument here has nothing to do with "it's not capitalism, therefore it must be socialism". Reisman never says that.


Anonymous at 2:04 PM on September 3, 2018 | #11028 | reply | quote

Is it lying to dye your hair so it doesn't look like you are starting to get some grey hairs?


Anonymous at 7:20 AM on September 4, 2018 | #11045 | reply | quote

curi at 11:13 AM on September 4, 2018 | #11049 | reply | quote

if you limit the comments displayed, it now says how many are displayed out of the total (at the top, right under the blog post) and has a link to show all comments.

example:

http://curi.us/2126-open-discussion?comments=30

note: you cannot use comment limits in permalinks to specific comments that you post anywhere because they will stop working when more comments are added, so the linked comment is no longer within the latest N comments.


curi at 11:46 AM on September 4, 2018 | #11052 | reply | quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuHpp9XsXkE&lc=UgyvZEB8_s2cBjHdFuB4AaABAg.8ku5OfVt77y8kuAdZwnaWO

Like Facebook, YouTube permalinks don't actually work. But there's only a few comments so you can probably find it. I responded to a hostile comment with:

> So antifa is defensible, but Lauren Southern and Rebel Media are beyond the pale?

Guy is literally defending antifa then tells me that a "balanced discussion" requires not using "far-right" or "anti-left" sources.

He also doesn't understand my honesty in choosing a clear and accurate video title, and thinks I should have lied in the title to hide my actual views – that's the kind of thing he and his lefty social circle do.


curi at 9:59 AM on September 7, 2018 | #11113 | reply | quote

> So antifa is defensible, but Lauren Southern and Rebel Media are beyond the pale?

To this question, the person actually replied beginning with a clear answer: "Yes."


curi at 11:00 AM on September 7, 2018 | #11115 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 12:05 PM on September 7, 2018 | #11117 | reply | quote

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2018/09/08/app-store-alex-jones

> APPLE HAS PERMANENTLY BANNED ALEX JONES’ INFOWARS APP FROM THE APP STORE

:(

And DF tries to use the authority of Popper to justify it :(


Anonymous at 5:11 PM on September 8, 2018 | #11131 | reply | quote

Amazon Censoring PUA Books


curi at 10:44 AM on September 10, 2018 | #11132 | reply | quote

link for #11132 https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/1039144452722327552

Someone posted mykl's latest Overwatch YouTube video on reddit. mykl wrote the following comment:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/9emp1m/leaking_florida_mayhem_big_acquisition_3_new/e5pxnzz/

> Sources: Florida mayhem have acquired Xepher via trade from Seoul dynasty. Florida mayhem have signed Apply and HaGoPeun from academy to main OWL roster.

> For those who don’t wanna hear my opinion on this for 10 mins with 6 ads.

I liked it. So did a bunch of people who replied on reddit. (I'm actually going to watch the video later, though of course I use adblock.)


curi at 10:47 AM on September 10, 2018 | #11133 | reply | quote

Epstein is so second-handed and/or panders to those who are. He asks about how Objectivism helped people accomplish things *that are recognized by other people with high social status*. That's ironic given his association with Objectivism and this question being about the value of Objectivism. He should try following Objectivism more!


Anonymous at 5:10 PM on September 10, 2018 | #11134 | reply | quote

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965

> Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965

> The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 (H.R. 2580; Pub.L. 89–236, 79 Stat. 911, enacted June 30, 1968), also known as the Hart–Celler Act, changed the way quotas were allocated by ending the National Origins Formula that had been in place in the United States since t...

> changed the way quotas were allocated by ending the National Origins Formula that had been in place in the United States since the Emergency Quota Act of 1921.

>The proponents of the Hart–Celler Act argued that it would not significantly influence United States culture. President Johnson called the bill "not a revolutionary bill. It does not affect the lives of millions."[17] Secretary of State Dean Rusk and other politicians, including Senator Ted Kennedy, asserted that the bill would not affect US demographic mix.[2] However, the ethnic composition of immigrants changed following the passage of the law.[18][19] Specifically, the Hart–Celler Act allowed increased numbers of people to migrate to the United States from Asia, Africa, and the Middle East.

> Prior to 1965, the demographics of immigration stood as mostly Europeans; 68 percent of legal immigrants in the 1950s came from Europe and Canada. However, in the years 1971–1991, immigrants from Hispanic and Latin American countries made 47.9 percent of immigrants (with Mexico accounting for 23.7 percent) and immigrants from Asia 35.2 percent. Not only did it change the ethnic makeup of immigration, but it also greatly increased the number of immigrants—immigration constituted 11 percent of the total U.S. population growth between 1960 and 1970, growing to 33 percent from 1970–80, and to 39 percent from 1980–90.[21]

wikipedia is seriously biased but still admits all this. the same article says:

> The 1965 Act marked a change from past U.S. policy which had discriminated against non-northern Europeans.[2]


Anonymous at 6:56 PM on September 10, 2018 | #11135 | reply | quote

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2018/09/11/amazon-peterson

There's no way that's what Jeff Bezos wants his managers to do about injuries. He probably considers it just as immoral as most other people reading this news story. And it's bad business. You'll get sued. It'll alienate your better employees. If a culture like that gets established (which this anecdote does *not* demonstrate), it'll be hard to fix it and hire good managers. The guy who doesn't care about injuries is also a bad employee who does other things wrong. Being this degree of hard ass is not how to efficiently deliver stuff.

It makes a big difference whether this is actually Amazon policy, or a bad manager. Hiring good people is hard – it's hard to tell, from an interview, how they'll behave.


Anonymous at 9:49 AM on September 12, 2018 | #11139 | reply | quote

Anonymous at 2:00 PM on September 12, 2018 | #11140 | reply | quote

Just got emailed this:

> We noticed that you haven't logged into your ESL account within least 4 years and we are writing to inform you that we will unfortunately have to close your account soon. We are forced to do this due to the GDPR policy that prevents us from keeping the user data for more than 4 more years.

GDPR sux.


Anonymous at 4:22 PM on September 12, 2018 | #11144 | reply | quote

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/09/12/leaked-video-google-leaderships-dismayed-reaction-to-trump-election/

leaked video of Google leaders hating Trump and expressing their desire to use their control over information for political activism.

> (00:01:12) Returning to seriousness, Brin says he is “deeply offen[ded]” by the election of Trump, and that the election “conflicts with many of [Google’s] values.”

> (00:09:10) Trying to explain the motivations of Trump supporters, Senior VP for Global Affairs, Kent Walker concludes: “fear, not just in the United States, but around the world is fueling concerns, xenophobia, hatred, and a desire for answers that may or may not be there.”

> (00:09:35) Walker goes on to describe the Trump phenomenon as a sign of “tribalism that’s self-destructive [in] the long-term.”

> (00:09:55) Striking an optimistic tone, Walker assures Google employees that despite the election, “history is on our side” and that the “moral arc of history bends towards progress.”

Then he attacks walls.

> (00:13:10) CFO Ruth Porat appears to break down in tears when discussing the election result.

> (00:15:20) Porat promises that Google will “use the great strength and resources and reach we have to continue to advance really important values.”

> (00:20:24) Eileen Noughton, VP of People Operations, promises that Google’s policy team in DC is “all over” the immigration issue and that the company will “keep a close watch on it.”

> (00:23:12) Noughton does acknowledge “diversity of opinion and political persuasion” and notes that she has heard from conservative Google employees who say they “haven’t felt entirely comfortable revealing who [they] are.” and urged “tolerance.” (Several months later, the company would fire James Damore allegedly for disagreeing with progressive narratives.)

> (00:27:30) Sergey Brin praises an audience member’s suggestion of increasing matched Google employee donations to progressive groups.

> (00:34:40) Brin compares Trump voters to “extremists,” arguing for a correlation between the economic background of Trump supporters and the kinds of voters who back extremist movements. Brin says that “voting is not a rational act” and that not all of Trump’s support can be attributed to “income disparity.” He suggests that Trump voters might have been motivated by boredom rather than legitimate concerns.

> (00:54:33) An employee asks what Google is going to do about “misinformation” and “fake news” shared by “low-information voters.” Pichai responds by stating that “investments in machine learning and AI” are a “big opportunity” to fix the problem.


Anonymous at 4:53 PM on September 12, 2018 | #11145 | reply | quote

Anonymous at 12:15 AM on September 13, 2018 | #11148 | reply | quote

#11148 He didn't seem aware that paddling is already a thing in lots of US schools. And he was kinda hateful of strict parenting without a word about how the standard other side of that debate is also awful ("permissive parenting" is bad). Basically all normal ways of parenting are awful and then everyone complains about how some other school of parenting is awful while being oblivious to what's wrong with their own favored approach. And he thinks he knows more about the psychology of people he hates than he actually does.


Anonymous at 12:58 AM on September 13, 2018 | #11150 | reply | quote

Anonymous at 1:09 AM on September 13, 2018 | #11151 | reply | quote

Why do people have music running through their heads? Is there anything we can do to get it to stop?


Anonymous at 6:40 AM on September 13, 2018 | #11152 | reply | quote

I don't know why a song gets stuck. But what works for me is to finish out the song in my head. Play it out until the end, then it no longer plays.


Andy at 10:38 AM on September 13, 2018 | #11153 | reply | quote

Best educational Overwatch streamer I've found: https://www.twitch.tv/fahzix


Anonymous at 1:03 PM on September 13, 2018 | #11158 | reply | quote

Anonymous at 6:02 PM on September 13, 2018 | #11161 | reply | quote

#11161 was me


Andy at 6:04 PM on September 13, 2018 | #11162 | reply | quote

#11161 In the first 30 seconds, he says right wingers as a group "invariably" make certain arguments (which are not even close to my main points on the subject), accuses them of calling people "cucks" (which I don't do), and says he'll look at data (rather than think about economic logic).


Dagny at 11:37 PM on September 13, 2018 | #11164 | reply | quote

https://www.cnet.com/news/iphone-xs-versus-iphone-xs-max-versus-iphone-xr-whats-the-difference/

I think I'm going to get the XR. The processor is the same as the XS. I don't care about the screen or camera not being quite as good.


Anonymous at 10:27 AM on September 14, 2018 | #11166 | reply | quote

#11166 Size is another factor. I don't think I'd want a larger phone than my X. I've tried a plus phone before and didn't like it. I can comfortably hold this in one hand.


Anonymous at 11:05 AM on September 14, 2018 | #11167 | reply | quote

(Image from https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Hierarchy-of-evidence-pyramid-The-pyramidal-shape-qualitatively-integrates-the-amount-of_fig1_311504831 )

this is all about *who should rule* – which authority is best?

it's authoritarian and is a major force destroying the world (cuz it's so popular)

the method of judging things by their authority should be entirely rejected, and all that should matter is criticisms of them.

there is no purpose to a hierarchy of evidence. it's only used to reject ideas which are not refuted, or to defend ones which are, both of which are the epitome of irrationality.

all research done by ppl with such ideas is tainted. not all worthless, but tainted and the useful bits and pieces must be gathered and rescued by better men who can tell the difference.

which is most research.

it's also a blatant attack on thinking, which it lists at the bottom


curi at 5:49 PM on September 14, 2018 | #11171 | reply | quote

I don't think that's the most charitable interpretation of this. It could well come close to straw-manning what is intended with this.

It is not about popularity or even authority.

The whole goal is to keep us from fooling ourselves, as we are the easiest people to fool.

These methods have been developed through the years as a way to defend against bias, and keep us form error correcting.

It is certainly not a blatant attack on thinking. I also think that the power of expert opinion goes only as far as their ability to explain their theories or positions. How do we differentiate the distrust of someone because they are fallible and a system that makes it less likely to fall prey to cognitive biases?

I may not have a full grasp of that side or yours but I do not think you presented it in a way that is in accord with the principle of charity.


Andy at 9:24 PM on September 14, 2018 | #11172 | reply | quote

Expressing the position of Critical Rationalism is not straw manning. It is an actual, important disagreement. We have serious, published reasoning for this (which our opponents will not answer).


curi at 10:24 PM on September 14, 2018 | #11173 | reply | quote

> I may not have a full grasp of that side or yours but I do not think you presented it in a way that is in accord with the principle of charity.

The principle of charity is commonly used to attack and pressure people – like you've just done – in ways that do not related to the actual issues at stake. It's a way to attack without refuting a word of the argument.

From your position of total ignorance of the issues, how can you say whether curi's evaluation is fair? I think he's exactly right and it's very important and he's doing the world a favor by understanding this and sharing information about it with anyone who will listen – he's contributing to problem solving. You are trying to suppress his outlier ideas with social pressure by accusing him of being uncharitable while not trying to pursue the actual issues.

You seem to be under the impression that authoritarians don't exist – or at least not among groups that say they aren't authoritarian. Or something. Maybe it's because you're confusing epistemological authoritarians with political authoritarians. But most academics are political authoritarians too, so that wouldn't even be a bad bet.


Dagny at 11:02 PM on September 14, 2018 | #11174 | reply | quote

#11172

> I don't think that's the most charitable interpretation of this. It could well come close to straw-manning what is intended with this.

>

> It is not about popularity or even authority.

RCTs are put above cohort studies. But if a cohort study contradicts an RCT then it's possible that the RCT is wrong because it was conducted badly. So what's relevant is whether there is a criticism of the study, not what kind of study it is. So this diagram is about assigning authority not about how to make judgements rationally.

> These methods have been developed through the years as a way to defend against bias, and keep us form error correcting.

These methods are tools. People have to judge when and how to use a given tool and they can make bad decisions. So ranking the tools doesn't make sense.

> It is certainly not a blatant attack on thinking.

The diagram is an attack on thinking since it ranks studies by their methods rather than considering whether a person has an unanswered criticism of the study.

> I also think that the power of expert opinion goes only as far as their ability to explain their theories or positions.

This is also true or non-expert opinion, and all the kinds of studies in that diagram.


Anonymous at 3:07 AM on September 15, 2018 | #11175 | reply | quote

>So what's relevant is whether there is a criticism of the study, not what kind of study it is. So this diagram is about assigning authority not about how to make judgements rationally.

Suppose treatment A has been investigated in a case study (someone took treatment A, they were watched over a period of time, and then their disease improved). Suppose treatment B has been investigated in a RCT involving 4000 people. It also showed improvement of the disease.

I don't have any criticisms of how the studies themselves were performed. For being a case study, it was performed properly. For being a RCT, it was performed properly.

I have the disease in question. I'm considering treatment A vs B. Should I criticize *the idea of me going with treatment A* on the grounds that the only evidence that it actually works in reality is a single case study? Is that an invalid criticism?

To clarify, I'm not criticizing treatment A itself. It could still be good. But I'm criticizing me going with it right now because it has given much of a demonstration on how it'll actually work in reality (yet).


Kate at 7:38 AM on September 15, 2018 | #11176 | reply | quote

Clarification:

>To clarify, I'm not criticizing treatment A itself. It could still be good. But I'm criticizing me going with it right now because it has given much of a demonstration on how it'll actually work in reality (yet).

[...] because it *hasn't* given much of a demonstration on how it'll actually work in reality (yet).


Kate at 7:49 AM on September 15, 2018 | #11177 | reply | quote

Kate, you seem to be asking about whether there's any difference btwn the things in the pyramid, or if CR views them as identical. Yes there are differences. They are, literally, different. These differences may be mentioned in arguments when people find ways they are relevant.


Dagny at 10:19 AM on September 15, 2018 | #11178 | reply | quote

Do they differ in their quality of evidence that a particular tested treatment will actually work in reality as guessed?

If so, is it useful to rank them according to this difference?


Kate at 4:12 PM on September 15, 2018 | #11179 | reply | quote

"quality of evidence" is not a well-defined, singular thing with any universal purpose.

Different metrics of evidence quality are used for different purposes. (Though such things are overrated and often no such metric is needed.)

Kate, you don't know what you're talking about and are overreaching. You are not taking appropriate steps to learn this subject, nor are you even making clear what your conversational goal is.


Dagny at 4:20 PM on September 15, 2018 | #11180 | reply | quote

>> I may not have a full grasp of that side or yours but I do not think you presented it in a way that is in accord with the principle of charity.

> The principle of charity is commonly used to attack and pressure people – like you've just done – in ways that do not related to the actual issues at stake. It's a way to attack without refuting a word of the argument.

Perhaps that pressure is necessary. I have not much refuted an argument if I am refuting a strawman. When people criticize Popper but aren't actually attacking the positions he *actually* held you're right to dismiss that criticism would you not agree?

> From your position of total ignorance of the issues, how can you say whether curi's evaluation is fair? I think he's exactly right and it's very important and he's doing the world a favor by understanding this and sharing information about it with anyone who will listen – he's contributing to problem solving. You are trying to suppress his outlier ideas with social pressure by accusing him of being uncharitable while not trying to pursue the actual issues.

Total ignorance is a bit of a stretch. I've done enough research to distinguish what I would consider weak and strong studies. However, I don't have to be an expert in research design to know that the goal is not authoritarian control but an attempt to improve error correction.


Anonymous at 6:18 PM on September 15, 2018 | #11181 | reply | quote

#11181 You're advocating psychological pressure (as against rational arguments), calling curi mistaken without argument (a bit of a stretch is a claim about an error without giving reasoning), mistaken about strength and weakness (see https://yesornophilosophy.com ) and you aren't trying to learn what curi's (and DD's and Popper's and my) thinking about epistemological authority is. curi knows what these ppl's philosophy is and thinks it's false and he knows why, in full detail (as do i). and once you know what it is, well, all forms of justificationism involve the use of authority b/c authority is fundamentally the thing which provides justification. there's nothing else to provide justification but authority. it always turns out to be authority when you investigate from a Popperian perspective.


Dagny at 1:10 AM on September 16, 2018 | #11182 | reply | quote

> calling curi mistaken without argument (a bit of a stretch is a claim about an error without giving reasoning)

oops i didn't check the quote authors at first. but then i realized he was insulting me, not curi, this time. well, i await a of refutation of the so-called stretch.


Dagny at 1:22 AM on September 16, 2018 | #11183 | reply | quote

> Total ignorance is a bit of a stretch. I've done enough research to distinguish what I would consider weak and strong studies. However, I don't have to be an expert in research design to know that the goal is not authoritarian control but an attempt to improve error correction.

wait are sentences 2 and 3 there actually supposed to be relevant to sentence 1? are they supposed to be arguments for non-ignorance? but the main relevant thing is ignorance *of Critical Rationalism* and those don't even claim to know the first thing about CR, and actually both sentences contradict CR (with no sign the author knows that he's contradicting CR).

i initially read it as disconnected hostility, but it could actually be intended to be connected. regardless, sentence 3 is certainly disconnected from the issues – the discussion was about the pyramid and the philosophy behind it, not about the goals of research design. (also he doesn't say authoritarian control *of what*, so that's vague). also the claims about attempting to improve error correction are, well let's just say citation needed. that is not a standard thing for most ppl to say is their goal. he seems to be transplanting a bit of CR and attributed it to non-CR ppl b/c, while they didn't actually say it, they seem reasonable so they must mean it!?


Dagny at 1:31 AM on September 16, 2018 | #11184 | reply | quote

#11180

>Different metrics of evidence quality are used for different purposes. (Though such things are overrated and often no such metric is needed.)

Is there a useful metric (and ranking) of evidence quality associated with the hierarchy of evidence? Is there some salvageable value there? Or is it useless?

> Kate, you don't know what you're talking about and are overreaching. You are not taking appropriate steps to learn this subject, nor are you even making clear what your conversational goal is.

I use the hierarchy of evidence (which vaguely in my mind ranks study designs based on their quality of experimental evidence) as a factor when comparing different medical treatment options to go with. e.g. see #11176.

One of my conversational goals is to understand whether I'm making a mistake.


Kate at 4:32 AM on September 16, 2018 | #11185 | reply | quote

Sad to see Wikipedia list "Atlas Shrugged" in the worst books near "Mein Kamph"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_books_considered_the_worst#Atlas_Shrugged_(Ayn_Rand,_1957)


FF at 7:04 AM on September 16, 2018 | #11186 | reply | quote

#11186 No Das Kapital or Mao's Red book


FF at 7:05 AM on September 16, 2018 | #11187 | reply | quote

> One of my conversational goals is to understand whether I'm making a mistake.

Yes you're making lots of mistakes due to epistemological ignorance. You yourself say "vaguely". You shouldn't rank drugs by the types of studies that failed to refute them.

If you want to rank drugs better, consider which ones have better *causal explanations* regarding how they work, and which just have selective attention on correlations. The role of empirical research should be primarily for inspiration and criticism; it can't directly tell you answers about what works or why. Drugs which haven't yet been exposed to much analysis or criticism can be seen as untested/unproven, which is a different kind of thing than trying to estimate if they work or not and which is only a secondary issue, not the main issue (the main issue being whether there's knowledge about it working).

---

@FF that sux :(


Anonymous at 12:49 PM on September 16, 2018 | #11191 | reply | quote

#11191

> You shouldn't rank drugs by the types of studies that failed to refute them.

Is there some usefulness in ranking study designs, though? I’m trying to figure out exactly what should be ranked, if anything at all. More on this below.

> If you want to rank drugs better, consider which ones have better *causal explanations* regarding how they work, and which just have selective attention on correlations.

ok

> The role of empirical research should be primarily for inspiration and criticism; it can't directly tell you answers about what works or why. Drugs which haven't yet been exposed to much analysis or criticism can be seen as untested/unproven,

Oh, maybe this is what can be usefully ranked? Can study designs be usefully ranked according to the extent to which they expose drugs to criticism involving empirical testing and/or further analysis (e.g. a meta-analysis of RCTs)? I like this better than my vague idea that study designs are ranked based on the quality of evidence they provide.

For example, some guy’s idea that hasn’t been tried out on anyone yet regarding the efficacy of a drug (this would actually be considered “no study”) < a case study examining the efficacy of the drug in a single person who took it < a RCT examining the efficacy of the drug in 4000 people who took it.

Each level of study design rank *only* conveys that there’s been further exposure to criticism involving empirical testing and/or further analysis.

Each level of study design rank does not directly tell us answers about which drugs are better. We find out that some drugs are better when other drugs get criticized for not being as efficacious (or for causing intolerable side effects, for having explanations that focus on correlations and not causality, or for something else). Is what I’m saying compatible with CR?

> which is a different kind of thing than trying to estimate if they work or not and which is only a secondary issue, not the main issue (the main issue being whether there's knowledge about it working).

Continuing with my current guess:

So, it’s important not to look at drugs that so far have only been studied in e.g. “low-rank” (my terminology from above) case studies and try to estimate whether or not the drugs will work. A low level of exposure to criticism involving empirical testing doesn’t necessarily mean a drug is ineffective. Just like a low level of exposure to criticism doesn’t necessarily mean an idea is mistaken.

But the thing to do is to provide that needed criticism for drugs in the form of argument (e.g. a lack of causal explanation) and/or substantial empirical testing (e.g. a RCT that better uncovers a lack of efficacy or intolerable side effects). Is this close?


Kate at 9:56 AM on September 17, 2018 | #11195 | reply | quote

> Is there some usefulness in ranking study designs, though? I’m trying to figure out exactly what should be ranked, if anything at all. More on this below.

This is backwards. You should start with a problem and seek solutions, not take a potential solution and go look for problems to use it on.

@testing, there are many different types so a single ranking of amount of testing is rly hard and again u should start with the problem first and then try to devise some kinda ranking (or non-ranking) that will help with that problem, don't start with the ranking. but a reasonably generically useful thing to consider is: did a bunch of ppl take this drug and nothing awful appeared to happen? that's different than few/no ppl tried it yet. and it can matter if ppl have tried taking it long term already, or just short term.


Anonymous at 12:53 PM on September 17, 2018 | #11197 | reply | quote

Ok. I see your point about coming at it backwards. And right now, I can't think of a problem that the ranking solves. You can just use general criticisms when comparing treatment options.

Criticisms such as:

- so far this drug has only been tried out in a few/no other people (compared to this other drug that thousands of ppl took)

- this drug lacks a causal explanation that makes sense

- the study examining this drug has major problems with bias

- etc.

I'm thinking that any good, pro-criticism, error-correcting ideas that are somewhat reflected by the hierarchy of evidence (e.g. ideas about needing to expose drugs to rigorous, empirical testing and ideas about wanting to reduce bias) can just be incorporated into the process as general criticisms.


Kate at 2:53 PM on September 17, 2018 | #11198 | reply | quote

sounds like a bullshit excuse to let bad science that agrees with you pass through and ignore the good science that disagrees with you. That's how you get climate change deniers, anti-vaxxers and flat earthers.

Postmodernism on the right.


Anonymous at 9:46 PM on September 17, 2018 | #11200 | reply | quote

#11200 Your hostile comments don't include specific arguments about specific claims anyone made. You don't appear to be attempting to have a rational discussion.


Anonymous at 9:57 PM on September 17, 2018 | #11201 | reply | quote

truth hurts bro. facts don't care about your feelings.


Anonymous at 11:27 PM on September 17, 2018 | #11202 | reply | quote

#11202 Did you have any particular facts in mind?


oh my god it's turpentine at 10:53 AM on September 18, 2018 | #11205 | reply | quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B229-KLudTo

> 17-YEAR-OLD STUDENT PILOT LANDS HER PLANE WITHOUT A WHEEL!

They do a good job of staying calm and handling the situation in a reasonable manner.


Anonymous at 12:10 PM on September 18, 2018 | #11206 | reply | quote

https://www.wired.com/story/apple-infinite-loop-oral-history/

> Schiller: We’re like, “Steve! Newton customers are picketing! What do you want to do? They’re angry.” And Steve said, “They have every right to be angry. They love Newton. It’s a great product, and we have to kill it, and that’s not fun, so we have to get them coffee and doughnuts and send it down to them and tell them we love them and we’re sorry and we support them.”


Anonymous at 12:15 PM on September 18, 2018 | #11207 | reply | quote

https://www.wired.com/story/apple-infinite-loop-oral-history/

> Cook: It was an awful time. The stock crashed, it goes down by 60 to 70 percent. We get a call from Ted Waitt, founder of Gateway. He wants to talk about acquiring Apple. Steve and I went to a meeting with Waitt and their CEO, and it’s a different Steve. Very calm, listening to the comments they made, how they’d probably keep the Apple brand. I was sitting there feeling like my organs were being cut out. Then they said maybe they could come up with a role for Steve, and I’m thinking—he’s going to blow! He’s going to blow any minute! Then they start talking about price. And Steve looks at them—he could look at you with eyes that just penetrated your soul—and says, “Who do you think is worth more, Apple or Gateway?” The meeting lasted only two or three minutes more. And in a few weeks they had some accounting scandal, and their stock crashed.

omg, that question from Steve :D


Anonymous at 12:18 PM on September 18, 2018 | #11208 | reply | quote

https://www.wired.com/story/apple-infinite-loop-oral-history/

> Scott Forstall (SVP of software, 1997–2012): Those buildings were mazes. Every time I would bring someone on campus, they would get lost. There’s only one time I remember someone not getting lost, and it was when we were working on a screen reader for sight-challenged people. I brought someone in who needed a seeing-eye dog. He asked to use the restroom. Every other time this happened, I would wait because they would get lost trying to find their way back. Left, right, left, right, right. Five minutes later his dog brings him right back into the room. That seeing-eye dog was the only one who knew his way around the very first time.


Anonymous at 12:31 PM on September 18, 2018 | #11209 | reply | quote

https://www.wired.com/story/apple-infinite-loop-oral-history/

> Forstall: Whenever I ate with Steve, he insisted on paying for me, which I thought was a little odd. Even if we went in together and he selected something quick like premade sushi, and I ordered a pizza in the wood-burning pizza oven, he would wait for me at the cash register for 10, 15 minutes. I felt so awkward. Finally, I told him. “Seriously, I can pay for myself, so please don't stand there and wait for me.” He said, “Scott, you don't understand. You know how we pay by swiping your badge and then it’s deducted from your salary? I only get paid a dollar year! Every time I swipe we get a free meal!” Here was this multibillionaire putting one over on the company he founded, a few dollars at a time.


Anonymous at 12:34 PM on September 18, 2018 | #11210 | reply | quote

#11152

> Why do people have music running through their heads? Is there anything we can do to get it to stop?

Are there people who don't have music running through their heads most of the time? If so, what's the difference between them and the people who do?

Maybe it could be good to have music running through your head if it's good music. Anyone have suggestions for good music that might inspire someone to be a better person?

I thought about trying to add words to the music running through my head, which doesn't usually have words. The words could be things I want to tell myself over and over. I had trouble coming up with words.


Anonymous at 7:52 AM on September 19, 2018 | #11213 | reply | quote

#11213

i don't have music running thru my head most of the time. almost never.

sometimes i have music running thru my head, like right after hearing a song.

i only listen to music while driving or working out. often i like it silent while driving or working out (like because i'm deep in thought and I don't want music to get in the way, though often i'm deep in thought and the music is on but I don't really notice the music - same for watching tv/movies).


Anonymous at 8:02 AM on September 19, 2018 | #11214 | reply | quote

mykl's apology/reflections

Overwatch content creator (YouTuber) mykl got a bunch of complaints after sharing a *rumor* on Twitter which was partially incorrect. He's recently leaked some inside info correctly, which he labelled differently (as coming from his "sources").

the complaints included that he needed to ask ppl for comment b4 saying things about them. mykl decided he'd made a mistake and wrote thoughts:

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqlmii

i thought his reflections were very good. reddit, however, mostly flamed him for it:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/9hbuyz/mykl_reflecting/

what do you think?


curi at 1:05 AM on September 20, 2018 | #11216 | reply | quote

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/09/france-marine-le-pen-ordered-to-undergo-psychiatric-tests-for-posting-photos-critical-of-the-islamic-state

Quotes:

> France: Marine Le Pen ordered to undergo psychiatric tests for posting photos critical of the Islamic State

>> Marine Le Pen, the leader of the French far right has been left shocked and furious after a court ordered her to be examined by a psychiatrist to determine if she “is capable of understanding remarks and answering questions”.

>> The unusual summoning is in relation to Le Pen having tweeted out gruesome propaganda images from terror group Isis that showed the bodies of people having been executed by the so-called Islamic State.

>> “I thought I had been through it all: well, no! For denouncing the horrors of Daesh (Isis) by tweets the “justice system” has referred me for a psychiatric assessment. How far will they go?!” she said on Thursday.

>> “I am being charged for having condemned the horrors of Daesh,” Le Pen told AFP.

>> “In other countries this would have earned me a medal.”

>> The crime is punishable by up to three years in prison and a fine of 75,000 euros ($91,000).


Anonymous at 1:09 PM on September 20, 2018 | #11221 | reply | quote

#11222 Why are you linking that? Do you have a question?


Anonymous at 8:58 PM on September 20, 2018 | #11223 | reply | quote

Anonymous at 9:29 PM on September 21, 2018 | #11224 | reply | quote

[6:28 PM] HeuristicWorld (Andy): I am really kind of confused at your bullying attitude towards me

[6:30 PM] HeuristicWorld (Andy): Sabotaging, I guess you expect me to be like everyone else here that takes your word for gospel

[6:30 PM] HeuristicWorld (Andy): The thing is I don't consider you superior to me and It bothers you.

[6:31 PM] HeuristicWorld (Andy): which is fine

[6:31 PM] HeuristicWorld (Andy): I've dealt with big egos before

He said it's "fine", after the passive-aggressive comment about his own confusion, and before leaving Discord without further explanation.


Anonymous at 9:53 PM on September 21, 2018 | #11225 | reply | quote

#11225 He was talking to curi. He was triggered because curi criticized his approach to subreddit moderation – which he both defended and also simultaneously disowned since he isn't solely in charge.


Anonymous at 10:00 PM on September 21, 2018 | #11226 | reply | quote

#11225 Yeah, that was a couple days after he got triggered because I and others don't hate the idea of Trump building a wall. I told him he was triggered, and some other warnings, and asked some questions, and he just ignored me and kept ranting for like an hour. Amazingly, he also made an excuse that he was too busy to talk properly (which doesn't seem to explain writing so many nasty comments). He apologized, by email, for raging that time:

> Hello Elliot,

> I apologize for my behavior yesterday. I shouldn't have implied you were a bigot. I've been thinking of what caused me to react so strongly and I think it was fear. I was afraid that you could convince me to think that a wall is a good idea. It felt like I was betraying my friends and people I care about if I were to start agreeing with something like that. But I ended up betraying my own values of seeking truth and honest conversations. Either way, I behaved poorly and I apologize.

> -Andy

But then he raged again, similarly, a few days later... (The quotes in #11225 regarding subreddit moderation, then leaving further discussion, apparently permanently.)

Notice the irrationality of being scared of being convinced that an idea is true. And notice the personal bias, which he brought up in the conversation too – he knows some immigrants and that, not principles, is how he decides on political policies. (I don't think he ever answered if they were *illegal* immigrants, which is the only type of immigrant that a wall would be targeted at. Many legal immigrants support Trump!)

Anyway, as is common with apologies, he didn't learn his lesson or change anything.

Andy is a moderator of https://www.reddit.com/r/IntellectualDarkWeb/ where his name is kodheaven (blog: https://heuristicworld.blogspot.com ). I pointed out some ways their rules were unclear but Andy said he thought they were fine and didn't respond to the specific problems I had pointed out – and then raged, called me a bully, left, etc. It's really sad how much people's parents and teachers destroy their minds, and they usually never get over it.

He was friendly at first and I helped him learn the basics of minimum wage, but then he became hostile quite fast. Or at least it seemed like an abrupt change to me. Based on the quotes in #11225 , I guess he was building up resentments and problems for a while and dishonestly hiding them. I had noticed that *he brought up a lot more topics than he made progress on*. I'd tried to get him to stop and focus more, and had a lot of success with minimum wage, and some success with a few other things (e.g. altruism), but it was hard because he was resistant to productive discussion methods. He also never took any interest in the He also did sabotaging things like reading most of Atlas Shrugged *while largely disliking it or not getting the point* – without telling us he was reading it (I wouldn't have even recommended it to him, since I wouldn't have expected him to understand it) and, although he formed a negative judgment, he never discussed a single issue he had with the book.


curi at 11:05 PM on September 21, 2018 | #11227 | reply | quote

> He also never took any interest in the

That sentence should say *in the topic of overreaching* on the end. He did say he liked Paths Forward, but then never acted accordingly.


curi at 12:57 AM on September 22, 2018 | #11228 | reply | quote

RealRandFansLoveLiberty at 6:40 PM on September 22, 2018 | #11229 | reply | quote

Andy, fuck off.


curi at 6:43 PM on September 22, 2018 | #11230 | reply | quote

RealRandFansAreAutists at 8:28 PM on September 22, 2018 | #11231 | reply | quote

Juice

I recently discovered this article, and it has successfully converted me into an antisemite. I do not doubt the author's claims, but I have decided to read the books mentioned there.

http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-oddities-of-the-jewish-religion/

Obviously, there's another issue of genetic jewishness, but I don't subscribe to that. I think that's just a way to bootstrap bottled rage by people who are antisemites for no good reason. Epigenetics and environmental factors play a much more important role than supposed trait descent.


Pulp at 5:22 AM on September 23, 2018 | #11232 | reply | quote

@#11232 http://fallibleliving.com/essays/rational-politics/89-a-short-history-of-israel

and you didn't specify any particular claims you think are good and important from the article. this is a problem because the article doesn't read as an organized argument and it's hard to find the main points (and there's a major concern that if I found what I think are the main points, they wouldn't be the ones you had in mind).


Anonymous at 11:18 AM on September 23, 2018 | #11234 | reply | quote

fucking racists


Anonymous at 8:56 PM on September 23, 2018 | #11238 | reply | quote

what are some good productivity extensions for Chrome?


Anonymous at 9:31 PM on September 23, 2018 | #11239 | reply | quote

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/09/24/apple-shazam-acquisition-finalized/

> Apple Finalizes Shazam Acquisition, App Will Soon Become Ad-Free

Also MacOS Mojave came out today. Back up your computer before updating!


Anonymous at 1:03 PM on September 24, 2018 | #11240 | reply | quote

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/09/24/iphone-storage-profitable/

> In research compiled by Bloomberg, the 64GB iPhone XS cost Apple $23.68 for the NAND storage specifically, the 256GB cost $66.24, and the 512GB cost $132.48. In terms of revenue, the 512GB storage option is estimated to make Apple $241 more per iPhone than the 64GB tier, an increase from $107 between the highest and lowest storage tiers in last year's iPhone X.

Neat to know things about business margins. (Be aware that these estimates are usually not super accurate.)


Anonymous at 1:06 PM on September 24, 2018 | #11241 | reply | quote

Anonymous at 9:52 PM on September 24, 2018 | #11242 | reply | quote

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/09/26/apple-watch-series-4-second-supplier-compal/

> Apple Watch Series 4 Expected to Gain Second Manufacturer Following 'Much Better Than Expected' Demand

Just got mine yesterday. I like it.


Anonymous at 9:43 AM on September 26, 2018 | #11243 | reply | quote

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/09/26/apple-news-publishers-high-traffic-poor-revenue/

> Report Reveals Apple News Brings Publishers Much Higher Traffic But a Lot Less Ad Revenue

> In a stark example, Slate revealed that it earns more money from an article that gets 50,000 page views on its own site than it does from 54 million views on Apple News.


Anonymous at 9:45 AM on September 26, 2018 | #11244 | reply | quote

https://brooksreview.net/2018/09/safari-content-blocker-evaluations-92618-edition/

> Safari Content Blocker Evaluations – 9/26/18 Edition

> 1Blocker X is leagues better than the rest.

That's what I was already using :)


Anonymous at 2:49 PM on September 26, 2018 | #11247 | reply | quote

New Coulter column:

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2018-09-26.html

> NO MORE MR. WHITE GUY


Anonymous at 3:27 PM on September 26, 2018 | #11248 | reply | quote

Is this blog antisemitic?


Anonymous at 9:39 PM on September 26, 2018 | #11249 | reply | quote

#11249

No.


oh my god it's turpentine at 10:31 PM on September 26, 2018 | #11250 | reply | quote

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2018/09/27/hill-facebook

> The researchers also found that if User A, whom we’ll call Anna, shares her contacts with Facebook, including a previously unknown phone number for User B, whom we’ll call Ben, advertisers will be able to target Ben with an ad using that phone number, which I call “shadow contact information,” about a month later. Ben can’t access his shadow contact information, because that would violate Anna’s privacy, according to Facebook, so he can’t see it or delete it, and he can’t keep advertisers from using it either.

Facebook also lied that they didn't do this before being caught.


Anonymous at 9:55 AM on September 27, 2018 | #11251 | reply | quote

Found a Mojave bug: open 2 finder windows, A and B. open a 2nd tab in A. drag the 2nd tab to B. click the close button on window A. it leaves A open and closes B (both tabs). Repeatable.


curi at 1:42 PM on September 27, 2018 | #11252 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 2:55 PM on September 27, 2018 | #11253 | reply | quote

Comparison and criticism of speedrunning marathons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vjyy-UkZBY


Anonymous at 2:17 PM on September 29, 2018 | #11255 | reply | quote

The story of XQC (overwatch player/streamer):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1bgzFGyNuU


Anonymous at 4:27 PM on September 29, 2018 | #11256 | reply | quote

curi.us - Apple tech news (also objectivism)


Anonymous at 1:49 AM on September 30, 2018 | #11258 | reply | quote

Apple is wonderful and interesting. Though Cook is far worse than Jobs :(


curi at 12:03 PM on September 30, 2018 | #11259 | reply | quote

And Apple products are a major part of *the good life* today. Philosophers should care about the tools they use to read/write/watch/listen/record.


curi at 12:04 PM on September 30, 2018 | #11260 | reply | quote

https://research.mozilla.org/files/2018/04/The-Effect-of-Ad-Blocking-on-User-Engagement-with-the-Web.pdf

Mozilla looked at some web browsing data and found:

> In the group that installed an ad blocker, we find significant increases in both active time spent in the browser (+28% over control) and the num- ber of pages viewed (+15% over control), while seeing no change in the number of searches.


Anonymous at 2:02 PM on September 30, 2018 | #11261 | reply | quote

>“Ten years ago, the $999 price of iPhone X would not have bought a state of the art camera, a pocketable computer, a personal audio player, portable TV and a cellular phone, let alone paid for any of the new key features of iPhone X. Add in inflation and last year's iPhone X price tag would barely have bought the original iPhone and used iPod in 2007, or not quite an entry-level Mac in 2000.”

Apple and the aggressive rollout of its iPhone XS vision for the future

https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/09/13/apple-and-the-aggressive-rollout-of-its-iphone-xs-vision-for-the-future

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Anonymous at 2:29 PM on September 30, 2018 | #11262 | reply | quote

Anonymous at 4:37 PM on September 30, 2018 | #11263 | reply | quote

>ON FRIDAY, FACEBOOK revealed that it had suffered a security breach that impacted at least 50 million of its users, and possibly as many as 90 million. What it failed to mention initially, but revealed in a followup call Friday afternoon, is that the flaw affects more than just Facebook. If your account was impacted it means that a hacker could have accessed any account that you log into using Facebook.

https://www.wired.com/story/facebook-security-breach-third-party-sites/

I never used the Facebook sign in crap cuz I didn't trust them. I feel vindicated


Anonymous at 4:50 PM on October 1, 2018 | #11264 | reply | quote

Mill advocating communism as a way of reducing the number of living human beings:

http://www.econlib.org/library/Mill/mlP14.html#II.1.13

> The Communistic scheme, instead of being peculiarly open to the objection drawn from danger of over-population, has the recommendation of tending in an especial degree to the prevention of that evil.


curi at 11:52 AM on October 3, 2018 | #11266 | reply | quote

> “Our paper-writing methodology always followed a specific pattern: it started with an idea that spoke to our epistemological or ethical concerns with the field and then sought to bend the existing scholarship to support it. The goal was always to use what the existing literature offered to get some little bit of lunacy or depravity to be acceptable at the highest levels of intellectual respectability within the field. Therefore, each paper began with something absurd or deeply unethical (or both) that we wanted to forward or conclude. We then made the existing peer-reviewed literature do our bidding in the attempt to get published in the academic canon.

> This is the primary point of the project: What we just described is not knowledge production; it’s sophistry. That is, it’s a forgery of knowledge that should not be mistaken for the real thing. The biggest difference between us and the scholarship we are studying by emulation is that we know we made things up.

> This process is the one, single thread that ties all twenty of our papers together, even though we used a variety of methods to come up with the various ideas fed into their system to see how the editors and peer reviewers would respond. Sometimes we just thought a nutty or inhumane idea up and ran with it. What if we write a paper saying we should train men like we do dogs—to prevent rape culture? Hence came the “Dog Park” paper. What if we write a paper claiming that when a guy privately masturbates while thinking about a woman (without her consent—in fact, without her ever finding out about it) that he’s committing sexual violence against her? That gave us the “Masturbation” paper. What if we argue that the reason superintelligent AI is potentially dangerous is because it is being programmed to be masculinist and imperialist using Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein and Lacanian psychoanalysis? That’s our “Feminist AI” paper. What if we argued that “a fat body is a legitimately built body” as a foundation for introducing a category for fat bodybuilding into the sport of professional bodybuilding? You can read how that went in Fat Studies.”

Academic Grievance Studies and the Corruption of Scholarship - Areo

https://areomagazine.com/2018/10/02/academic-grievance-studies-and-the-corruption-of-scholarship/

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Anonymous at 12:12 PM on October 3, 2018 | #11267 | reply | quote

> “At other times, we scoured the existing grievance studies literature to see where it was already going awry and then tried to magnify those problems. Feminist glaciology? Okay, we’ll copy it and write a feminist astronomy paper that argues feminist and queer astrology should be considered part of the science of astronomy, which we’ll brand as intrinsically sexist. Reviewers were very enthusiastic about that idea. Using a method like thematic analysis to spin favored interpretations of data? Fine, we wrote a paper about trans people in the workplace that does just that. Men use “male preserves” to enact dying “macho” masculinities discourses in a way society at large won’t accept? No problem. We published a paper best summarized as, “A gender scholar goes to Hooters to try to figure out why it exists.” “Defamiliarizing,” common experiences, pretending to be mystified by them and then looking for social constructions to explain them? Sure, our “Dildos” paper did that to answer the questions, “Why don’t straight men tend to masturbate via anal penetration, and what might happen if they did?” Hint: according to our paper in Sexuality and Culture, a leading sexualities journal, they will be less transphobic and more feminist as a result.

> We used other methods too, like, “I wonder if that ‘progressive stack’ in the news could be written into a paper that says white males in college shouldn’t be allowed to speak in class (or have their emails answered by the instructor), and, for good measure, be asked to sit in the floor in chains so they can ‘experience reparations.’” That was our “Progressive Stack” paper. The answer seems to be yes, and feminist philosophy titan Hypatia has been surprisingly warm to it. Another tough one for us was, “I wonder if they’d publish a feminist rewrite of a chapter from Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf.” The answer to that question also turns out to be “yes,” given that the feminist social work journal Affilia has just accepted it. As we progressed, we started to realize that just about anything can be made to work, so long as it falls within the moral orthodoxy and demonstrates understanding of the existing literature.

> Put another way, we now have good reasons to believe that if we just appropriate the existing literature in the right ways—and there always seems to be a citation or vein of literature that makes it possible—we can say almost any politically fashionable thing we want. The underlying questions in every single case were the same: What do we need to write, and what do we need to cite (all of our citations are real, by the way) to get this academic madness published as high “scholarship”?”

Academic Grievance Studies and the Corruption of Scholarship - Areo

https://areomagazine.com/2018/10/02/academic-grievance-studies-and-the-corruption-of-scholarship/

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Anonymous at 12:16 PM on October 3, 2018 | #11268 | reply | quote

Meant to set the voat.co title to the title here. It's: "UBISOFT leaks: company mandates diversity training for white employees, HR drones brag about hiring based on skin color! Anti-white propaganda to be implemented in all games"


Alisa at 2:50 PM on October 3, 2018 | #11270 | reply | quote

> On campus, all can present equally valid narratives. What privileges one story over another is not necessarily any semblance to reality, at least as established by evidence and facts. Instead, powerful victimizers supposedly “construct” truths based on their own self-interests. As a result, self-described victims of historical biases are under no obligation to play by what they consider to be rigged rules of facts, evidence, or testimony.

> This dynamic explains why Senator Cory Booker (D., N.J) insisted that Dr. Ford told “her truth.” In other words, evidence was not so relevant. Ford’s story of events from 36 years ago inherently would have as much claim on reality as Kavanaugh’s rebuttal — and perhaps more so, given their different genders and asymmetrical access to power.

> There was little interest in discovering the ancient idea of “the Truth.” To do that would have required the messy work of taxing the memories of teenage behavior nearly four decades prior.

> Truth-finding would have required difficult, time-honored examinations of physical evidence, the testimony of witnesses, and even unpleasant cross-examinations about the time and place of the allegations. Feelings might have been hurt. Motives might have been questioned, as they are under constitutional norms of due process.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/10/brett-kavanaugh-hearings-campus-chaos-comes-to-congress/


Anonymous at 4:53 AM on October 4, 2018 | #11271 | reply | quote

> “There are two ways for spies to alter the guts of computer equipment. One, known as interdiction, consists of manipulating devices as they’re in transit from manufacturer to customer. This approach is favored by U.S. spy agencies, according to documents leaked by former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden. The other method involves seeding changes from the very beginning.

> One country in particular has an advantage executing this kind of attack: China, which by some estimates makes 75 percent of the world’s mobile phones and 90 percent of its PCs. Still, to actually accomplish a seeding attack would mean developing a deep understanding of a product’s design, manipulating components at the factory, and ensuring that the doctored devices made it through the global logistics chain to the desired location—a feat akin to throwing a stick in the Yangtze River upstream from Shanghai and ensuring that it washes ashore in Seattle. “Having a well-done, nation-state-level hardware implant surface would be like witnessing a unicorn jumping over a rainbow,” says Joe Grand, a hardware hacker and the founder of Grand Idea Studio Inc. “Hardware is just so far off the radar, it’s almost treated like black magic.”

> But that’s just what U.S. investigators found: The chips had been inserted during the manufacturing process, two officials say, by operatives from a unit of the People’s Liberation Army. In Supermicro, China’s spies appear to have found a perfect conduit for what U.S. officials now describe as the most significant supply chain attack known to have been carried out against American companies.

> One official says investigators found that it eventually affected almost 30 companies, including a major bank, government contractors, and the world’s most valuable company, Apple Inc. Apple was an important Supermicro customer and had planned to order more than 30,000 of its servers in two years for a new global network of data centers. Three senior insiders at Apple say that in the summer of 2015, it, too, found malicious chips on Supermicro motherboards. Apple severed ties with Supermicro the following year, for what it described as unrelated reasons.”

China Used a Tiny Chip in a Hack That Infiltrated Amazon and Apple

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies


Anonymous at 10:00 AM on October 4, 2018 | #11272 | reply | quote

A guy runs down the origin of a fake title for Federalist 78 in this twitter thread https://twitter.com/derektmuller/status/1047902874762502144?s=21


Anonymous at 11:01 AM on October 4, 2018 | #11273 | reply | quote

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/10/05/anandtech-iphone-xs-review/

> AnandTech Calls A12 Bionic in iPhone XS 'Just Margins Off' Best Desktop CPUs in New Review

also

> As part of the review, AnandTech also offered a look at how Apple has improved performance in older devices by tweaking scaling performance. The A9 in the iPhone 6s, for example, took 435ms for the CPU to reach maximum frequency, but that time was cut to 80ms in iOS 12 for a "great boost to performance in shorter interactive workloads."


Anonymous at 12:58 PM on October 5, 2018 | #11275 | reply | quote

guides to going pro in overwatch – general stuff and role specific.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/9lnfl7/beginningyourpathtopro_main_support/


Anonymous at 1:15 PM on October 5, 2018 | #11276 | reply | quote

> “Kavanaugh, for the first time, used language in his testimony to make it implicitly clear to the people whose support he needed—people who would pressure wavering senators—that he was being assaulted by the very forces Republicans and conservatives had been fighting against for the better part of 40 years. He called them out by name and thanked President Trump for his support. This was a breach of judicial etiquette, but you cannot ask a man to allow himself to be ruined to preserve a set of behaviors that have already been rendered passe by the deployment of charges of sexual assault and gang rape. I mean, you can ask, but only a fool would take you up on it.”

Democrats Play Against Brett Kavanaugh Backfired Big Time

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/politics-ideas/brett-kavanaugh-the-surprise-ending/

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Anonymous at 6:17 AM on October 6, 2018 | #11277 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 12:35 AM on October 7, 2018 | #11279 | reply | quote

RIP Google+ (the consumer version) + data breach

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/10/08/google-plus-shutting-down-data-breach/


Anonymous at 11:22 AM on October 8, 2018 | #11280 | reply | quote

Thoughts on Moldbuggery, Curi?

https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/


Anonymous at 9:18 AM on October 9, 2018 | #11281 | reply | quote

#11281 Disorganized. Condescending ranting that doesn't really attempt rigor or seriousness. More interested in social dynamics and DHVs than changing the world or educating anyone or clarity. Knows less than he pretends to. Not a philosopher. Lacks principles to organize the ideas. Lots of parochial details. Does a bad job of engaging with existing good ideas. Kinda mean. Putting on a show that complains about other people putting on shows. No paths forward.


curi at 11:37 AM on October 9, 2018 | #11282 | reply | quote

If it weren't for double standards, the left would have no standards at all.


Anonymous at 1:13 PM on October 11, 2018 | #11283 | reply | quote

> “Another Republican president might have lost his nerve amid all this. More than one elite conservative pundit called on Trump to ditch Kavanaugh and appoint Amy Coney Barrett instead. She was a woman, you see, so she’d be immune to criticism. Except, of course, she wouldn’t have been: the very appearance of anti-abortion commitment that made her appealing to many elite Christian conservatives would have made her unacceptable to Susan Collins, the pivotal Republican vote in the Senate. And if Barrett wasn’t vulnerable to sexual allegations, something else would have had to serve. Plagiarism, maybe? Finances? Did she ever meet a Russian?

> More to the point, abandoning Kavanaugh would have been a sign of weakness, demoralising to the Republican base — which firmly stood by Kavanaugh — and an intoxicating taste of blood to liberals, who would know that if they could win this first fight, the next round would be worth fighting too. Instead, by seeing Kavanaugh through to confirmation, Trump has showed Republicans that they can win so long as they don’t pre-emptively surrender. His own campaign in 2016 had been fought on the same premise. Republicans had been in a habit of apologising for themselves since at least the time George W. Bush ran on ‘compassionate conservatism’ — what exactly was he implying about everyone else’s conservatism? — in 2000, when he became president only by grace of the Republican majority on the Supreme Court. (Which is fair enough: the 2000 election genuinely was a virtual tie in the decisive state of Florida.) Mitt Romney cringed when he was called out for ‘self-deportation’ and ‘binders full of women,’ even though the former was a humane and effective immigration policy (one much in evidence during the Obama administration, in fact) and the latter was a ill-phrased but sincere promise to include many women in his administration.

> But that was another problem with the ‘draft Barrett’ idea: although the conservative writers pushing it liked her for her presumed views on abortion and thought of themselves as being clever political strategists for suggesting a woman, in fact they were playing to the very style of politics that the centre-left dominates — that is, they were conceding the narrative that Republicans are bad for women and only a woman could negate the GOP’s justly-acquired bad reputation among women. This didn’t work when John McCain put Sarah Palin on his presidential ticket. It wouldn’t have worked for Amy Coney Barrett, either — though she may indeed make a fine justice one day. Just as the politics of ‘compassion’ doesn’t work for conservatives (as opposed to the politics of jobs and American industry), the politics of ‘see, we can too find women who like us!’ concedes everything to conservatism’s enemies. It doth protest too much.”

White liberalism is dying | Spectator USA

https://spectator.us/2018/10/white-liberalism/

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Anonymous at 2:52 PM on October 11, 2018 | #11284 | reply | quote

The Stakes (America vs. The Mob Part 2) by Justin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvVRDZVq3-0


Anonymous at 1:57 PM on October 12, 2018 | #11285 | reply | quote

> The Stakes (America vs. The Mob Part 2) by Justin

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvVRDZVq3-0

actual GOP ads are just edits of my vids now ;-DDD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlMIyae9-ZU&frags=pl%2Cwn


Justin at 2:05 PM on October 12, 2018 | #11286 | reply | quote

BTW I put links to the source videos in the description, in case people either wanted more context or wanted to use them for their own vids or whatever. I plan on doing that from now on since it's very little work to do so and adds some real value to the end result.


Justin at 2:06 PM on October 12, 2018 | #11287 | reply | quote

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2018/10/11/arm-v83-javascript

> LATEST REVISION TO ARM INSTRUCTION SET INCLUDES OPTIMIZATIONS JUST FOR JAVASCRIPT

Apple did some CPU design specifically aimed at javascript performance, cuz javascript matters that much cuz of its use by web browsers.


Anonymous at 2:28 PM on October 12, 2018 | #11288 | reply | quote

> The sources noted that the morning Barr’s tweet exploded on the internet, Barr had even offered to issue public apologies and make the rounds on every talk and news show in order to make amends.

> “Ben and Channing weren’t having any of that and wanted her gone,” the sources remarked.

Report: ABC execs regret firing Roseanne, worry about spinoff: ‘We didn’t think it through properly’

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/10/12/report-abc-execs-regret-firing-roseanne-worry-about-spinoff-we-didnt-think-it-through-properly?utm_content=bufferd2896&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=theblaze


Anonymous at 2:32 PM on October 12, 2018 | #11289 | reply | quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhS4a11jZOg

> The Legend of Korra is Garbage and Here's Why

1.6 million views. I thought Avatar The Last Airbender was amazing, but Korra was only OK (not garbage, though!). The video description begins:

> Reuploaded due to salty Legend of Korra fans mass-flagging the previous video and having it locked to private.

What the fuck, it's not just political stuff being censored, it's just the mob causing problems with sharing any ideas that offend a large group.


curi at 3:48 PM on October 12, 2018 | #11290 | reply | quote

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhS4a11jZOg

>> The Legend of Korra is Garbage and Here's Why

> 1.6 million views. I thought Avatar The Last Airbender was amazing, but Korra was only OK (not garbage, though!). The video description begins:

>> Reuploaded due to salty Legend of Korra fans mass-flagging the previous video and having it locked to private.

> What the fuck, it's not just political stuff being censored, it's just the mob causing problems with sharing any ideas that offend a large group.

Korra is an LGBT heroine now so she's political. Everything is political. Even Taylor Swift (formerly the Switzerland of celebrities when it came to being neutral on politics) is now doing left-wing advocacy


Justin at 4:03 PM on October 12, 2018 | #11291 | reply | quote

The Left Doesn't Focus on Persuasion

Leftists say their policies will make everyone better off overall. But then why can’t they persuade people to participate voluntarily? They don’t really do persuasion. The leftists will say stuff like that’s impractical, there’s a collective action problem, etc etc. But I think the basic issue is leftists think that non-leftists are too dumb to see the brilliant genius of left-wing policies and need to be forced for their own good by the state.

That’s how they act, anyways. They’re mostly not focused on creating like great viral content to persuade everyone about how harmful plastic bags are or something like that. There is some of that type of thing, but I think that’s mostly geared towards activating their “base” for political action (and some I guess might be geared towards indoctrinating captive audiences in the schools). Overall, they focus on political power a lot more than anything like persuasion.


Anonymous at 7:35 PM on October 12, 2018 | #11292 | reply | quote

> But I think the basic issue is leftists think that non-leftists are too dumb to see the brilliant genius of left-wing policies and need to be forced for their own good by the state.

I don't think many of them think that. And if they do, it's a consequence, not a cause.

The underlying causes are static memes, including social status games. They are tortured as children, for years, and then try to cope.


Anonymous at 7:40 PM on October 12, 2018 | #11293 | reply | quote

http://www.news.ucsb.edu/2018/019182/crowd-counting-through-walls-wifi

You can count people moving around a room (or other space) with only one wifi transmitter and one wifi receiver (which can be behind walls). All it takes is math and monitoring signal strength.


Anonymous at 11:17 PM on October 14, 2018 | #11294 | reply | quote

https://twitter.com/morganknutson/status/1049523067506966529

Long, interesting story about how awful working at Google+ was. Office politics and crap.

Notably, they had to bribe other parts of the company to do G+ integration by paying them lots of extra money, as bonuses. Cuz people didn't want to do G+ integration in other products. I think it's interesting that Google employees aren't just like slaves to be ordered around – Google found it easier to just pay them a ton of extra money to get them to do something dumb rather than just saying "yo I'm the boss, do this".


curi at 2:35 PM on October 15, 2018 | #11295 | reply | quote

Anonymous at 6:32 PM on October 15, 2018 | #11296 | reply | quote

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/411377-warren-dna-test-shows-strong-evidence-of-native-american-ancestor

> Bustamante said that Warren’s test results show the “vast majority” of her ancestry is European, but that “the results strongly support the existence of an unadmixed Native American ancestor,” likely 6–10 generations ago.

how did she know she's *cherokee* in particular if she had one indian relative 200 years ago, and has no idea what their name was, their gender, who they were, where they lived, what tribe they were in, etc?

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/411521-cherokee-nation-warrens-use-of-dna-test-inappropriate-wrong

> The Cherokee Nation in a statement said using a DNA test to claim connection with a tribal nation is “inappropriate” and “wrong.”

> “Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong,” said Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin Jr. “It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven.”

> Hoskin accused Warren of “undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage.”

> He argued that DNA tests fail to distinguish whether a person’s ancestors were indigenous to North or South America and noted that tribes set their own legal requirements for citizenship.

> Warren claims to have Cherokee blood. The Cherokee Nation requires a person to have at least one ancestor listed on a federal census used to allot Cherokee land in the early 1900s known as the Dawes Final Rolls.

> Unlike other tribes, the Cherokee Nation does not require a minimum blood quantum for citizenship.


Anonymous at 6:38 PM on October 15, 2018 | #11297 | reply | quote

https://twitter.com/GGReisman/status/1052024953803919360

> If Elizabeth Warren had been Jewish in Nazi Germany, her 1/64th, ancestry, let alone 1/1024th, would have been considered too small to keep her out of the Nazi Party or the SS. That’s how insignificant the worst racists consider it. She’s gotten a lot of mileage out of nothing.

Good comparison by George Reisman.


Anonymous at 10:04 PM on October 15, 2018 | #11298 | reply | quote

ad blocking

adblock has been working badly lately on my mac. too many ads showing up. i just switched to uBlock Origin because it's supposed to work on youtube ads: https://safari-extensions.apple.com/details/?id=com.el1t.uBlock-3NU33NW2M3

i reloaded a page where 3 separate big ads had appeared just at the top, and they were all gone. adblock sucks. i think i also semi-recently tried adblock plus (which is different but similar) with similar results.

if i have trouble with ublock, i will get 1blocker which is supposed to be great except that it doesn't block ads within youtube videos. i have 1blocker on ios and have had good experiences with it, and i read some reviews recommending it on both mac and ios. 1blocker costs a small amount of money which is perhaps why it's superior.


curi at 12:53 PM on October 20, 2018 | #11302 | reply | quote

breaks

i started using an app to remind me to take breaks:

https://www.dejal.com/timeout/

i set it to 20s break every 20min and 3min break every 90min.

i think it's good. you can delay or skip breaks, but i often do them.


curi at 12:55 PM on October 20, 2018 | #11303 | reply | quote

> “Before the summer coup of 2016, Turkey was said to have 50,000 political prisoners. Many of them were members of the country’s oppressed Kurdish minority which is deprived of its most basic civil rights. These include even the use of their own language. Doing so can carry a prison sentence.

> In that terrible summer, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, Turkey’s Islamic tyrant, finished securing his absolute hold on power with the coup as his Reichstag fire. The alleged coup became a blank check for the mass arrest and torture of countless thousands of political prisoners. Amnesty International estimated that 50,000 had been detained. The UN listed a figure as high as 180,000. They included 300 journalists.

> Lawyers described clients being brought to them covered in blood.

> Erdogan went after professors, judges, law enforcement, the military and the last remnants of a free press. A Human Rights Watch report documented electric shocks, beatings with truncheons and rubber hoses, and rape by Erdogan’s Islamic thugs. Heads were banged against walls. Men were forced to kneel on burning hot asphalt. Medical reports showed skull fractures, damage to testicles and dehydration.

> The media didn’t show any of the hysterical outrage at these crimes that it has over the disappearance of Jamal Khashoggi. The media cares more about Khashoggi, a former media mouthpiece of the Saudi regime before it turned on his Muslim Brotherhood brothers, than about 300 Turkish reporters.”

>Jamal Khashoggi: The Media Fights for a Muslim Brotherhood Pal of Osama Bin Laden

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/271623/jamal-khashoggi-media-fights-muslim-brotherhood-daniel-greenfield

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Anonymous at 7:12 AM on October 21, 2018 | #11307 | reply | quote

> “Almost every old farmstead in my vicinity is no longer just a home for a single farm family. They are often now surrounded by trailers and lean-tos, in turn sub-rented out to dozens of others—violations of zoning laws and building codes of the sort that would earn me a stiff fine, but which are of little interest to local authorities. Of three neighboring farmsteads down the road, one is now a storage area for dozens of used porta potties and wrecked cars. Another is an illegal dumping ground. The third has been raided on various occasions by authorities in order to stop drug dealing, gang activity, and prostitution.

> Our rural environs are often home to hard-working immigrants, but also to various Mexican gangs, drug dealers, and parolees. I hesitate to offer too many details because in the past I have incurred the anger of dangerous neighbors who got wind of filtered down stories of their criminality. It is enough said that sirens, SWAT teams, and ICE raids are not uncommon.

> A month ago a gang member shot up a neighbor’s house. He was arrested, released, and rearrested in a single night after trying twice to break into the home. The armed homeowner stopped his entry. I know of no nearby resident who is not armed. I cannot remember anything remotely similar occurring before 1980. In the 1970s we had no keys to our doors, and houses were permanently unlocked.

> Some of those with criminal records and gang affiliations were born in the United States. Perhaps America often does not seem as much a promised land to the second generation as it did to their parents, who arrived destitute from impoverished Oaxaca, Chiapas, and Central America. Arriving from one of the poorest regions in the world to one of the wealthiest and most culturally different— without the competitive requisites of English, legality, and a high-school diploma—in an era when the salad bowl is preferable to the melting pot, can easily result in the frequent chaos described below.

> I object most to the environmental damage in our rural areas. By that I mean the tossing of household waste or even toxic chemicals onto farmland. Staged cock- and dog-fighting is also not uncommon. I have found a few carcasses ripped to shreds, some with ropes around the dead dogs’ neck.

> Picking up tossed junk in my orchard is a routine experience. The perpetrators often leave plastic bags of their bulk mail (with incriminating addresses!) among soiled diapers and wet garbage. Local authorities have enough to do without hunting down dumpers to cite them for their antigreen habits.

> Every once in a while amateur and illegal collectors, who freelance for immigrant households that do not pay for “supposedly” mandated county garbage pick-ups, will come in at night with panel trucks and trailers. They dump literally tons of garbage such as mattresses, sofas, TVs, appliances, tires, junk mail, and car seats on alleyways and in vineyards.

> Not long ago someone jettisoned in our vineyard hundreds of used florescent light bulbs, about 100 paint cans, and fifty-gallon drums of used oil and chemicals. Needles and drug paraphernalia are not uncommon. I’ve seen about five stripped-down cars abandoned on our property after being stolen. Last summer a huge semi-truck was left on our alleyway, picked cleaned down to the chassis.

> I used to ride a bicycle in our environs. I quit for a variety of reasons.

> If one is bit by unlicensed and unvaccinated roaming dogs— and there are many out here— and if their masters do not speak English or do not have legal status, then a nightmare follows of trying to get authorities to find the dogs and impound them before the owners or the dogs disappear. It is up to the bitten whether the decision to play the odds and not get painful, and sometimes dangerous, rabies shots is prudent or suicidal. As a doctor put it to me when I was bitten: “Rabid dogs are almost unheard of in the United States, but I have no idea of what is true of Mexico. Your call.”

> Less dramatically, I got tired of watching local canteen trucks drive out on our rural roads, pull their drainage plugs, and dump cooking waste or toss leftovers on the road.”

The Diversity Of Illegal Immigration

https://www.hoover.org/research/diversity-illegal-immigration

via Instapaper


Anonymous at 7:18 AM on October 21, 2018 | #11308 | reply | quote

Daniel Pipes is skeptical of Trump's policy on Israel:

http://www.danielpipes.org/18546/still-skeptical-of-trump-israel-policy

> Question: The Trump administration seems to be following the logic of MEF's Israel Victory Project launched in January 2017: it recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, closed the PLO office in Washington, and cut funds to UNRWA and other Palestinians entities. With this, has your initial skepticism about President Trump's attitude towards the Palestinian-Israeli conflict changed?

> Answer: I remain skeptical. I see Trump's grand Middle East goal to weaken the Iranian regime. Toward this end, he has rewarded the Saudis with arms sales and the Israelis with Jerusalem. The steps against the Palestinian Authority serve as pressure on it to come to the table and receive what I expect to be its reward, namely recognition of Palestine with Jerusalem as its capital. If I am right, things will not turn out well.


Anonymous at 12:40 PM on October 21, 2018 | #11309 | reply | quote

from the dumb law archives:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sliced_bread#1943_U.S._ban_on_sliced_bread

> During 1943, U.S. officials imposed a short-lived ban on sliced bread as a wartime conservation measure.[6][7] The ban was ordered by Claude R. Wickard who held the position of Food Administrator, and took effect on January 18, 1943. According to The New York Times, officials explained that "the ready-sliced loaf must have a heavier wrapping than an unsliced one if it is not to dry out." It was also intended to counteract a rise in the price of bread, caused by the Office of Price Administration's authorization of a ten percent increase in flour prices.[8]

> In a Sunday radio address on January 24, New York City Mayor LaGuardia suggested that bakeries that had their own bread-slicing machines should be allowed to continue to use them, and on January 26, 1943, a letter appeared in The New York Times from a distraught housewife:

>> I should like to let you know how important sliced bread is to the morale and saneness of a household. My husband and four children are all in a rush during and after breakfast. Without ready-sliced bread I must do the slicing for toast—two pieces for each one—that's ten. For their lunches I must cut by hand at least twenty slices, for two sandwiches apiece. Afterward I make my own toast. Twenty-two slices of bread to be cut in a hurry![9]

> On January 26, however, John F. Conaboy, the New York Area Supervisor of the Food Distribution Administration, warned bakeries, delicatessens, and other stores that were continuing to slice bread to stop, saying that "to protect the cooperating bakeries against the unfair competition of those who continue to slice their own bread... we are prepared to take stern measures if necessary."[10]

> On March 8, 1943, the ban was rescinded. Wickard stated that "Our experience with the order, however, leads us to believe that the savings are not as much as we expected, and the War Production Board tells us that sufficient wax paper to wrap sliced bread for four months is in the hands of paper processor and the baking industry."[8]

btw you might recognize the name Wickard from this infamous case, which destroyed the Constitution forever:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn


Anonymous at 7:03 PM on October 21, 2018 | #11313 | reply | quote

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/10/29/apple-pencil-2-gestures-new-design/

> Apple Pencil 2 Rumored to Feature Gesture Support, New Charging Method and Minimalistic Design

supposedly it can magnetically attach to the side of the ipad. that's nice. the "where to put it" problem was real.


Anonymous at 12:27 PM on October 29, 2018 | #11331 | reply | quote

Curi, you can add external lists woth ublock origin. Go to settings and turn on the ones you like, imo many of the defaults are great. Other options at:

https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts


Anonymous at 10:45 AM on October 31, 2018 | #11332 | reply | quote

3min tour of new esports facility for gen.g (south korean esports team).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAIVRR4Ss0U


Anonymous at 12:31 PM on November 7, 2018 | #11351 | reply | quote

Overwatch League players are not allowed to have pepe emotes. Dafran just quit OWL and put his emotes back up. Here's a mention of it (there's many, and this came up months ago when they made sinatraa take a tweet down):

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/9v094w/dafran_the_end_i_hate_the_game_thought_i_could/e98cepi/


Anonymous at 12:40 PM on November 7, 2018 | #11352 | reply | quote

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/11/09/apple-amazon-new-product-deal/

> Amazon Inks Deal to Sell New Apple Products Like iPhone XR, iPhone XS, and 2018 iPad Pro


Anonymous at 12:52 PM on November 10, 2018 | #11361 | reply | quote

#11361

> Independent sellers who offer new and used Apple products on Amazon will have their listings removed after January 4, 2019, under the new deal. Those sellers will need to apply to become Apple authorized resellers on Amazon to continue to offer their wares.

> As CNET points out, while this deal will provide customers with access to a greater selection of Apple products at standard prices, it could potentially impact the used Apple device market on the platform.

doh, a downside


Anonymous at 12:54 PM on November 10, 2018 | #11362 | reply | quote

Overwatch teams hire new players primarily using *work sample tests* – they do *tryouts* where they see you *play the game*. Work sample tests are what patio11 and other wise people advise tech companies to use.


Anonymous at 3:24 PM on November 10, 2018 | #11363 | reply | quote

Democrats often make claims 'without evidence,' but you'll rarely see it mentioned in the headline

Washington Examiner: Democrats often make claims 'without evidence,' but you'll rarely see it mentioned in the headline

Is there an accurate term for this tactic of applying a principle or rule only when one thinks it helps one's own side? "Double standard" and "inconsistent" don't adequately convey the evil and dishonesty involved.


Alisa at 9:22 PM on November 12, 2018 | #11366 | reply | quote

There's also "one-sided" and "biased"


Alisa at 9:23 PM on November 12, 2018 | #11367 | reply | quote

#11366 they don’t have *integrity*.


Anonymous at 9:52 PM on November 12, 2018 | #11368 | reply | quote

That's good.


Alisa at 2:36 PM on November 13, 2018 | #11369 | reply | quote

https://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram/archives/2018/1115.html

> How DNA Databases Violate Everyone's Privacy

> [2018.10.15] If you're an American of European descent, there's a 60% chance you can be uniquely identified by public information in DNA databases. This is not information that you have made public; this is information your relatives have made public.

> Research paper:

> "Identity inference of genomic data using long-range familial searches."

>> Abstract: Consumer genomics databases have reached the scale of millions of individuals. Recently, law enforcement authorities have exploited some of these databases to identify suspects via distant familial relatives. Using genomic data of 1.28 million individuals tested with consumer genomics, we investigated the power of this technique. We project that about 60% of the searches for individuals of European-descent will result in a third cousin or closer match, which can allow their identification using demographic identifiers. Moreover, the technique could implicate nearly any US-individual of European-descent in the near future. We demonstrate that the technique can also identify research participants of a public sequencing project. Based on these results, we propose a potential mitigation strategy and policy implications to human subject research.


Anonymous at 1:21 AM on November 15, 2018 | #11370 | reply | quote

To do a DNA match with these databases they still have to have some of your DNA to match with, right? They need something like one of your hairs left at a crime scene.

The database just tells them "that hair came from Joe" where without it they'd just have a hair to try to match when they found a suspect by some other means.

Assuming I'm right about that, I'm unsure whether the database is a privacy violation in that particular application.

For thousands of years people have been able to see your face, and recognize it, and know (and tell authorities) you were in a particular place. That's just a less reliable method than DNA matching. People might not see your face, or they might not recognize you, or they might lie.

In particular this matters more in modern, large cities where you are mostly around people who do not know you (so can't recognize your face). Today you can conduct most of your activities and be seen but generally not recognized. That's something relatively new in human times. And also perhaps fleeting with the proliferation of cameras and face recognition.

But the fundamental problem of people knowing you were in a particular place whether you want them to know that or not has always existed. If you did, in fact, leave a hair at a crime scene I don't know that it violates your privacy to be able to identify that hair as yours prior to the existence of any other suspicious evidence about you.

Other than reliability, it doesn't seem different from the ability of someone to say "I saw Joe at the crime scene" prior to there being any other evidence you committed the crime. Neither prove in a legal sense or any other that you committed the crime, but both are reasons for the police to investigate you further.

Where I'd be concerned is if you leave a hair at a political protest or in a store, and someone uses that hair to identify you for political or marketing purposes. But I'd be equally concerned if they took your picture and used face recognition or pulled your fingerprint off a door handle or identified you by the MAC address of your phone's wifi adapter.

Basically I'm thinking the privacy violation is in who is collecting the sample to identify, and why they're collecting it. Not in the existence of a database to which samples can be matched.


PAS at 7:25 AM on November 15, 2018 | #11371 | reply | quote

DNA can be found years later, after you left. It can leave traces in many places around the world, info you didn't want saved. And it can do this in private places where no one would have seen you (or at least no one that you don't trust) – e.g. in a one-person bathroom, in a private residence, or in a business where you interact with one trusted person (e.g. massage or therapy). When you're seen, you often see that you were seen. And when you're seen by people you don't know and trust, that's generally *in public* and you know that you're in public and what it means.

(Trusted people will often give info about you *if an important crime was committed*. But maybe won't talk about you in most other situations, e.g. to a marketer.)


Dagny at 11:27 AM on November 15, 2018 | #11372 | reply | quote

Also questioning witnesses is pretty limited and hard. You have to find them, then a person has a conversation they interpret, miscommunication happens, etc. Human interaction isn't cheap and doesn't scale well. But marketers or whoever could automate DNA collection – send a roomba-like robot around in public areas to scan for DNA and keep records of all DNA found at all locations at what times. Could make a huge database. That would be different than what being seen in public is like now.

There are already robots wandering the streets in some areas for food delivery purposes (and for testing purposes). A DNA pickup thing could go on the same robot.


Dagny at 11:31 AM on November 15, 2018 | #11373 | reply | quote

*see* the magnets in the new ipad pro. cool short vid using "magnet paper" – looks like transparent plastic with tiny bits of metal which can move around and show magnet locations:

https://twitter.com/MKBHD/status/1062368253316603905


Anonymous at 11:45 AM on November 15, 2018 | #11374 | reply | quote

#11372 and #11373 I think we're talking past each other so I'll try a different approach. In #11370 anonymous quoted:

> How DNA Databases Violate Everyone's Privacy

...and your (Dagny) statements seem to imply you agree that DNA Databases violate privacy.

What do you propose?

Should it be illegal for people to consent to having their DNA sequenced and results stored in a database where those results can be used to identify others who did not consent?

Should it be illegal for DNA sequencers to offer sequencing for one price if you don't consent to being in their database, and another (lower) price if you do? My understanding is that's effectively what's going on now - sequencing is artificially cheap because the sequencers expect to profit from the data, not just what they charge you for sequencing.

Should it be illegal to pick up genetic material from your own property and sequence that? Should it be OK to sequence it but not to match it using a database of public records of stuff like relationships + the DNA of people who consented?

Or should the databases and sequencing and matching be legal but only certain uses of them regulated (like marketing or politics stuff)? What uses should be OK and what illegal?

Or instead of laws do you want some or all of the above enforced by social conventions and shaming/boycotts of violators or other non-government/non-force methods?

Or...?

As I said before I'm personally uncomfortable with people using identification tech for certain political and marketing functions. But I can't see a way out of it without violating other rights.

I don't really care if the technology is automated face recognition, walk recognition, speech recognition, MAC or IMEI identification, fingerprints, passport or other RFID sources, or DNA sequencing. I don't think it makes sense to single out one technology from the others. I'd look for some general principles that would include an explanation about what's private and what's not, and who can do what with private information. And I'd look for that to be compatible with our traditions about other rights like property.

European regulations such as GDPR attempt to do this...with (IMO) disastrous and highly rights-infringing results. I think such regulations are worse than nothing.

What do you think? Do you have a better idea?


PAS at 8:31 AM on November 17, 2018 | #11382 | reply | quote

I was talking about a problem, not proposing a solution, let alone choosing between different government bans as the solution candidates.

You also compared the DNA thing to some past stuff, and I pointed out some ways they were different.

I wasn't talking past you. My comments were responsive. You're now talking past me by changing the topic to basically implying I'm a statist, though.


Dagny at 11:24 AM on November 17, 2018 | #11383 | reply | quote

You're right that DNA is different in some of the ways you mention from past stuff. I think that's part of how we're talking past each other, since I thought I was clear in my original comment that DNA is different in some ways. I don't think the ways you pointed out DNA is different contradicted my original comment, though they did extend / expand on the differences significantly.

I agree you only stated the problem and had not proposed any solution, statist or otherwise.

But I also think that claiming there's a problem with something being a violation of privacy is not like claiming there's a problem with the weather being awful or life being too short. There's an important cultural context to claiming that something is a violation of privacy. Politically powerful movements exist to forcibly restrict what data is allowed to be collected, stored, shared, processed, etc. It's a matter of active controversy.

Privacy is a right and the state is currently a big part of how rights violations are addressed in our society. If you complain about DNA databases being a privacy violation and you don't propose a solution, people will reasonably assume you are likely in favor of some kind of government regulation of such databases. Maybe you're not! Which is why I suggested perhaps you had some non-statist solutions in mind.

Do you disagree about the cultural context of claiming that something is a privacy violation?


PAS at 7:35 PM on November 17, 2018 | #11384 | reply | quote

Song lyrics are getting more repetitive and more repetitive songs are more popular. With data:

https://pudding.cool/2017/05/song-repetition/index.html


Anonymous at 10:40 AM on November 21, 2018 | #11387 | reply | quote

Realism and the Aim of Science question

I'm confused about an argument in Realism and the Aim of Science p313 (about the subjective interpretation of "p(a|b)=r"):

"It may be said in passing that the subjectivist would be mistaken if he believed he could interpret [betting] by saying that we do not bet that a will happen but rather upon a conditional statement. For the probability of a conditional is very different from a conditional (or relative) probability, as may be seen as follows. Let b again be our total knowledge, c the conditions of the game; then, he may suggest, we do not bet upon a (given b) but upon 'if c then a' (given b); and after applying the rule of absolution, upon 'if c then a', absolutely. This interpretation is not compatible with the laws of the probability calculus, since 'if c then a' will have higher probability than a; unless, indeed, c is part of b, in which case the condition c loses its force; that is to say, we have in this case b=bc, and as a consequence, p(if c then a|b) = p(a|b) and there is no reason why, after applying the rule of absolution, we should obtain the present probability of 'if c then a', rather than the present probability of a."

Why will 'if c then a' have a higher probability than a, and how does that violate the laws of the probability calculus?


Evan at 11:19 PM on November 22, 2018 | #11390 | reply | quote

> Why will 'if c then a' have a higher probability than a

*a* is *a* universally, unconditionally. *if c then a* is a conditional, limited version of *a* saying that *a* must be true in some scenarios (*c*) but not making that claim for some other scenarios (non-c). so it's a weaker claim.

Example:

a = my dog will die this year

c = my dog is over 50 years old

*if my dog is over 50 years old, then my dog will die this year* is more probable than *my dog will die this year*.

This is a very basic thing. This is supposed to be trivial for a person who is going to follow Popper, so this and many other basic things can be built on and the reader's focus can ~all be directed to more advanced issues. It seems you're trying to read things while missing the important prerequisites. I think you're fooling yourself about your capabilities and it is sabotaging your progress. I don't think you want to hear that criticism. But it's not reasonable to ask for help while not wanting the perspective of someone who knows the answer and thinks in line with this forum's ideas. I think you could learn a lot more, and a lot faster, by a different approach, and this is important, and that you are not open to this possibility and that, given your refusal to even consider doing things a better way, you should stop asking for help from the people you disagree with and are dismissive of.


Dagny at 12:30 AM on November 23, 2018 | #11392 | reply | quote

>If you’re wondering how this insane state of affairs came to be, remember that conservatives aren’t demonized and censored based on how Right-wing they are. They are targeted according to how effective they become. That’s why Richard Spencer and David Duke are still on Twitter, while Gavin, Laura Loomer, Roger Stone and I–some of the most popular and persuasive people in the Trump movement, none of us remotely racist–are all banned.

https://www.dangerous.com/50463/i-too-must-bid-adieu-to-the-proud-boys-a-spunky-pro-western-mens-club-defamed-to-death/


Anonymous at 8:50 AM on November 23, 2018 | #11393 | reply | quote

Consider the part:

> Did you really just compared Zac with Jjonak

> Jjonak is 1000 time better than Zac will ever be

That's a really common type of logical fail. It is complaining about an unlimited/universal comparison (comparing two things *in general*) in response to a limited/specific comparison (comparing two things in *one particular way*). And he's correct that the two things are quite different *in general* (MVP player of season 1 overwatch league vs. a player who was on a tier 2 team, like the minor league basically, and is now gonna be promoted for season 2 and is fairly likely to be a bottom-50% level player, not an MVP.)

I see this a lot. I make a comparison between X and Y regarding issue Z. People say "X and Y are not comparable" because they think of some other point of comparison. It's like "Apples and oranges are a similar size" and they are like "Apples and oranges are not similar, they taste totally different". They wouldn't make this error with that exact example but they will make it when things get slightly more complicated or less clearly communicated, especially when there is some sort of major difference (like literal MVP vs. more middling player, or if you're doing a comparison involving Hitler).

Example where people would fuck it up: you're arguing about some random artist, call him Joe, who you think is a hack. So you discuss a bit and the guy says "artists are all inspired wonderful people" and you say "no, some artists are bad, see hitler" and he says back "Hitler and Joe are totally different, wtf is wrong with you for comparing them?". Logically that's a clueless response, and it's understandable for Hitler to come to mind as an example of a bad person who was also an artist (tho as a practical matter it may be wiser to pick another example if you aren't talking to a highly logical person). Point is it's the same issue where you made a comparison *for a specific purpose* and his response is that the two things are different *in general* (which is true but irrelevant).

The reason this happens a lot is people are what I call *gist thinkers* – they think/read/listen in terms of vague, approximate gists instead of the actual precise meanings of things. They read something in order to figure out the rough idea or ballpark of what it says, but they don't know what it actually says. For a person who does that, they will see two things are being compared (which really is the rough idea of what was said) and respond that way. (Within the methodology of what they are doing, they get everything right! They are correct that the vague gist was a comparison of X and Y, and they are also correct that X and Y are quite different in major ways.) Many people approximate stuff to the rough idea of it all the time (the main exceptions are people who are good at one thing, which is usually their profession, and do some good precise thinking about that – there are quite a few people who are good at something but then dumb in general, and that is more common than being good at two things let alone good at lots of things).

The gist thinker thing was one of the main issues in this discussion with Scuro about perception:

http://curi.us/2153-induction--perception-discord-discussion

Specifically when he was claiming that Ayn Rand wrote that *perception develops* in ITOE, the issue was Scuro can't read precisely. He could only read some rough approximation of what Rand said – which he interpreted as himself having read what she actually said (he doesn't know the difference, doesn't know that he's thinking in rough approximations and that other people think more precisely – and if you try to tell him that he'll just hate you and it won't lead to progress). So what would happen is he'd try to show the text said it by quoting a sentence where he saw it being said, and then I would read that sentence and it just plain did not say that. And because he can't think precisely, he could never say *where* in the quote it said what he claimed it said, he couldn't do word-by-word analysis because all he can do when reading is take a whole section of text and then get the gist of it. But there's no clear, precise logical process by which he does that, so he can't break it down into steps and show me, logically, the steps by which he gets from the words as written by Rand to his claim about them. I asked him for that but he just couldn't do it and dropped the subject and moved on to something else (and then a bit later, he went to sleep instead of answering some point and then didn't follow up the next day, nor the next, nor the next) – but then, weeks later, he remembered it as him having won the debate on that point!


curi at 10:17 AM on November 23, 2018 | #11394 | reply | quote

Ayn Rand Institute email newsletter today (they are bad at their jobs so they did not include a link to view it on a webpage, so sorry no link):

> Since 2012, the Tuesday following “Black Friday” has been publicized as “Giving Tuesday.” Touted as a “remedy” for the “selfish commercialism” of the holiday shopping season, the idea is that charitable contributions (“giving back”) will relieve the guilt you’re expected to be feeling.

> Ayn Rand observed that, while there’s nothing wrong with helping others who are worthy of help when you can afford it, charity is not a moral duty. More importantly, she thought people should act on the “trader principle,” freely exchanging value for value to mutual benefit.

> **So, at ARI we decided to turn #GivingTuesday into #TradingTuesday.**

> We are proposing that you make an investment in an ARI program of historical significance—the recording of twelve oral history interviews with people actively involved in the Objectivist movement at the early stages of its development. Your support will allow us to preserve these powerful stories and share them with generations to come.

> Here’s an example of an oral history audio clip with Dina Federman, a philosopher who participated in ARI’s advanced training programs in the 1990s. She lectured and wrote for ARI before her untimely death from cancer in 2016.

> **A group of anonymous donors has pledged to match #TradingTuesday contributions to ARI, up to $50,000.**

> If we achieve our goal of $50,000, we’ll have raised a total of $100,000 (including matching funds). This could produce **twelve oral histories in the next year**, ideally recorded in people’s homes with our video crew. The twelve individuals we hope to interview are in their 80s. Some were close to Ayn Rand and all were present at the founding of the Objectivist movement.

ARI is complaining about "Giving Tuesday" and saying that *Trading* Tuesday would be better.

Then they say they got some *donors* to pledge 50k, they are doing scammy donation matching on it, and they want you to donate too. How the fuck is that trading? They are such dishonest liars. This is total bullshit. This is no different than any other charity asking for a donation and in return what you get is the charity uses the money to fund their mission (and you donate cuz you like that mission, whether it's breast cancer cure research or recording oral history of Objectivists before they die.)

No doubt George Reisman (who is in his 80s) is *not* one of the twelve individuals they would like to interview.

I sign my posts here Dagny. I'm far more worthy of the name than ARI is.


Dagny at 1:12 PM on November 23, 2018 | #11395 | reply | quote

curi at 10:10 PM on November 23, 2018 | #11396 | reply | quote

https://www.reddit.com/r/Vindictus/comments/5p8ck5/sad_news_for_vindictus_na_community/

This is an important point. On official forums for a game, the game company can delete criticism, and they often do. On the Facebook page, they can and often do delete criticism. But they can't delete critical tweets. If you want to see if people are unhappy with a decision by a big company, or what the majority of people's reaction is, looking on twitter will work better than looking on facebook (which they can censor just as much as their own forum).


Anonymous at 12:10 PM on November 24, 2018 | #11397 | reply | quote

curi at 1:13 PM on November 24, 2018 | #11398 | reply | quote

There's something weird about South Park advertising their phone game with Kyle saying phone games are bad. Or more like, it reveals something weird about our culture.

https://twitter.com/SouthPark/status/1066521107367428096


Anonymous at 6:38 PM on November 24, 2018 | #11399 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 7:33 PM on November 25, 2018 | #11400 | reply | quote

> *a* is *a* universally, unconditionally. *if c then a* is a conditional, limited version of *a* saying that *a* must be true in some scenarios (*c*) but not making that claim for some other scenarios (non-c). so it's a weaker claim.

>Example:

>a = my dog will die this year

>c = my dog is over 50 years old

>*if my dog is over 50 years old, then my dog will die this year* is more probable than *my dog will die this year*.

if c = *my dog is under 1 year old*, then why couldn't the probability of if c then a be 1% and therefore less than the probability of a which is 10%?

And what laws of probability inform your argument? I still don't see how Popper shows that this violates the laws of probability.

>This is a very basic thing. This is supposed to be trivial for a person who is going to follow Popper, so this and many other basic things can be built on and the reader's focus can ~all be directed to more advanced issues. It seems you're trying to read things while missing the important prerequisites. I think you're fooling yourself about your capabilities and it is sabotaging your progress. I don't think you want to hear that criticism. But it's not reasonable to ask for help while not wanting the perspective of someone who knows the answer and thinks in line with this forum's ideas. I think you could learn a lot more, and a lot faster, by a different approach, and this is important, and that you are not open to this possibility and that, given your refusal to even consider doing things a better way, you should stop asking for help from the people you disagree with and are dismissive of.

I don't know why you create paranoid theories about me such as that I don't want to hear criticism the content of which I am unaware of. By commenting on this platform, I am openly subjecting myself to your horrible personality already (and because you replied to me I guess you could predict I *would* read your reply and subject myself to it), and still you don't want to suggest an actually *substantial* criticism because you fear I wouldn't be open to *that*, and you prefer to bear the cost of sinking your time and reputation into insulting me with empty paranoia, rather than state what you think is useful information?


Anonymous at 8:06 PM on November 25, 2018 | #11401 | reply | quote

The probability that your dog will die in the next year IF it's under 1 year old, is the probability that your dog is under 1 year old multiplied by the probability that a 0-1 year old dog will die in the next year. All the times your dog is the wrong age are success cases for the conditional statement. The conditional statement makes a weaker claim, it makes claims about fewer cases, so out of all cases (not just the cases it makes claims about) it's less likely to be mistaken because it says less.

> still you don't want to suggest an actually *substantial* criticism

I don't know what you're talking about. Telling you how logic works – and that you didn't know it – is a substantial criticism. It has substance (about the nature of logic). It addresses the issue. And there is a criticism there, not only positive education.

The format of what I said was to deal with the substance *and* then to also say a second thing.

Your comments about paranoia are unwelcome (unproductive, hostile, Szasz-contradicting, and not backed up with paths forward) and discourage me from responding to you. "horrible personality" was also unproductive nastiness. All of my meta comments were intended to address an actual problem I see, but you don't seem to follow the same policy.

Are you willing to change anything you're doing, or are you just going to keep asking for help with specific chunks of stuff, while offering no value in return (and being quite hostile which makes it way harder), and also not using learning methodology I think is effective? If you plan to continue in the same vein, give me some reasons to respond to you further, or I expect that I won't. (I don't think this problem, involving me considering just ignoring you going forward, is ignorable to focus *only* on the substance, but I did give you the substantive answer too, I did both, which I think is reasonable.)


Dagny at 8:25 PM on November 25, 2018 | #11402 | reply | quote

Evan, one of the reasons I haven't replied to you is that you had a conversation in YouTube comments with Alan where you said at the outset you wanted to go through the issues one by one, but then you stopped responding, without explanation, before even finishing one. It's one of many times you have not finished what you started nor explained what was going on. That makes you a bad person to begin joint projects with. You start things you apparently aren't interested in finishing or reaching success at, and that isn't good for the people offering you free help. You also behaved very badly on FI and were hostile and nasty to me personally, and you have not apologized nor, more importantly, done something to address what went wrong to fix the problem going forward.

I also think your distaste for thinking and talking about goals/plans, background knowledge and learning methodology makes it much harder to help you successfully and also harder to know what success looks like and whether that is even something I would want. (You could use the help to spread misconceptions about Popper while doing a better job of sounding like you know what you're talking about, or just it to impress friends with. You might or might not aspire to do things that are important to me, I don't know. And if you do aspire to things that are important to me, you might or might not have reasonable ways to pursue those achievements, but based on the limited info available to me currently, I'd guess not. This stuff is important. I have helped educate people before who have then used the knowledge for purposes that I think make the world worse.)

If you just want individual answers to individual questions, without any bigger picture being involved, that is tutoring and you should pay money for it. If you aren't trying to engage in a joint project or join the community, you just want help on demand with the problems of your choice for your own unstated purposes, and you don't want to offer stuff in return, then buy it.


curi at 8:39 PM on November 25, 2018 | #11403 | reply | quote

> Why will 'if c then a' have a higher probability than a

I want to try to explain this.

Here are the possibilities for 'if c then a':

c true, a true: 'if c then a' true

c true, a false: 'if c then a' false

c false, a true: 'if c then a' true

c false, a false: 'if c then a' true

'if c then a' is true in the cases when a is true. And 'if c then a' is *also* true when c and a are both false. So it's true in more cases than just those when a is true.

If in a particular example the probability of both c and a being false is zero, then the probability of a is equal to the probability of 'if c then a'.


Anne B at 6:19 AM on November 26, 2018 | #11404 | reply | quote

> If in a particular example the probability of both c and a being false is zero, then the probability of a is equal to the probability of 'if c then a'.

I initially read this as meaning c and a both can't be false, individually. But I think you meant they can't both be false at the same time, together (but one or the other could be false). The writing is a bit unclear FYI.


Anonymous at 11:08 AM on November 26, 2018 | #11405 | reply | quote

> I initially read this as meaning c and a both can't be false, individually. But I think you meant they can't both be false at the same time, together (but one or the other could be false). The writing is a bit unclear FYI.

Thank you. You are correct about what I meant.

Now I see that I was unclear.

A possible rewrite of my last sentence: If c and a are never both false at the same time (that is, the probability of c and a both being false at the same time is zero), then the probability of a is equal to the probability of 'if c then a'.


Anne B at 12:26 PM on November 26, 2018 | #11406 | reply | quote

Anonymous at 5:15 PM on November 26, 2018 | #11410 | reply | quote

Commercial food photography tricks. Short video:

https://twitter.com/MachinePix/status/1067266284914585600


Anonymous at 8:03 PM on November 26, 2018 | #11411 | reply | quote

So p(if c then a) = p(c)*p(a|c).

Left side is probability of a conditional, second term of the right side is conditional probability.

---

If we *don't* know about the rules (c) of the betting game, p(if c then a) > p(a) because as Anne said

>'if c then a' is *also* true when c and a are both false. So it's true in more cases than just those when a is true.

so that conditional statement can't be what we're betting on.

And if we *do* know about the rules, we *are* betting upon the conditional probability of a: it's p(a|b) because b includes c.


Evan at 1:09 PM on November 27, 2018 | #11413 | reply | quote

Dagny by insubstantial I was referring to your claim that I'm not open to your better way of learning that you won't state. To make that claim out of nowhere is so socially repulsive I would guess you have no friends. You could learn that it's incorrect to do this by going outside ever and talking to someone. Paranoia means theories about people that are irrational and cause you fear.

Elliot you are a person who wastes his time slandering people. I'm sorry I didn't respond to Alan's last comment for awhile but I was homeless and hungry, looking for jobs and places to stay for a few months starting roughly around that time. I fully expect that you will eventually hate me so much that you block me on all your websites or whatever. I don't know what goes on in your head and I find your particular emotional problem uninteresting because you even explicitly oppose altruism. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. I've had moral integrity from a very young age and can't relate. You need socialization badly. I tried to help you in twitter dms. Maybe you have a delusion that you shouldn't do things people recommend until they respond to the games you play with discussions and launching highly irrational criticisms at every detail of people's claims, making your discussions intractable. I come on here to discuss important things like philosophy, and the only use you can find for it is to try to create interpersonal drama. It is no wonder no one likes you, and you will only get dumber and dumber if you keep wasting your time like this.


Evan at 1:24 PM on November 27, 2018 | #11414 | reply | quote

Mentoring and Tutoring

#11403 I think Evan half wants *mentoring* and half doesn't (he partly tries to act like a peer or expert), and won't clearly figure it out in his own mind, let alone present the situation clearly to the other people he is asking for help.

Mentoring is different than tutoring. It's commonly an unpaid, longterm thing done for people who are especially promising/deserving (as against tutoring which is commonly done with whoever wants to hire a tutor, not necessarily a good student). Mentoring is earned by being a great learner who is a joy to work with, so the mentor is happy to pass on his knowledge. In return the mentor gets interesting questions, an energetic person studying and discussing things he cares about, and a new person to share the knowledge with others in the future. There are various ways that Evan is not behaving like a good mentoring candidate. And he hasn't asked for mentoring, nor for tutoring. He just doesn't want to say or think about what he *is* asking for.

In general, a tutor works for a client and helps the client with the client's goals. A mentor has his own goals and the mentee values and helps with the mentor's goals, and is receptive to advice about what to learn, what to do, what goals to have, the mentor's advice about what approaches to use to make progress, etc.

Asking for mentoring basically requires openly admitting being below someone. curi had no trouble doing that (with DD) because he doesn't have a big ego (in the usual sense of the term), but it's a big problem for most people who are age 20+ and think they are smart (and often really are smarter, in lots of ways, than most people they've met). Some people may believe that it's easier to ask DD for mentoring than to ask curi because DD is more prestigious (he has higher social status: a published book and some physics awards and papers back then, and a PhD and being an honorary professor, now a second book and he joined the royal society and gave some TED talks). Those people who focus on social status, and are not adequately impressed by curi's accomplishments, are poor candidates for curi to mentor anyway. They often try to treat curi as a peer, lose several arguments (often they stop replying before a clear conclusion), and then curi thinks that was enough of a demonstration that they should change their attitude but they don't get it.

People who don't acknowledge curi as the best living philosopher are not going to respect his time and value his help as much as people who do. So they generally offer a worse deal to curi who, in any case, spends a lot of time on his own stuff which often outcompetes people's requests for help (but he does remain available a fair amount and it could be more if a person or project interested him enough).

Evan is not alone in this ambiguity about what kind of help he wants: mentoring/tutoring/something-else. He also keeps it ambiguous about whether he wants a lot of help (as part of some longer term goals or plans) or just the occasional individual little thing. People on FI are, in general, pretty vague about whether they want mentoring, tutoring, or something else.

And Evan, like a fair amount of people, is very hostile to meta discussion, so it makes it harder to figure out things like this.


Dagny at 1:32 PM on November 27, 2018 | #11415 | reply | quote

> I'm sorry I didn't respond to Alan's last comment for awhile but I was homeless and hungry, looking for jobs and places to stay for a few months starting roughly around that time.

Doesn't matter. You could have continued on your schedule, whenever you were available, e.g. now, instead of switching projects to these Popper questions and to flaming FI people. You have a history of dropping projects, not just by delays but by then focusing on some new project *instead* of continuing, which is different than being busy with non-philosophy for a few months.


Anonymous at 1:39 PM on November 27, 2018 | #11416 | reply | quote

Evan thinks if he isn't actually BANNED then he must be welcome here in some sense, not have crossed the line too much.

There are a lot of ppl who basically only listen to punishments and think if you don’t punish then you aren’t serious and don't mind.

It’s awkward here cuz TCS people don’t like punishing or forcing. So they often *ask* for things instead, but then people react like "oh he's only asking, so that doesn't really matter and I can just do whatever".

So Evan got told he was unwelcome to do certain things, then did that. And he expects to get banned for it, but he does it anyway. He thinks bans are just part of how normal interactions between people go. It doesn't occur to him to stop when he's unwelcome and has been asked to stop, rather than to keep pushing and troublemaking until he has to be banned.

Evan's warning yesterday was posted by curi:

http://curi.us/2124-critical-rationalism-epistemology-explanations#c11408

> Evan, please don't post here unless you dramatically change your attitude. What you're doing is unwelcome.

Evan's response to that is to keep flaming people and doing the unwelcome things, and then also saying:

> I fully expect that you will eventually hate me so much that you block me on all your websites or whatever.

What a jerk to do things he expects to be hated and knows are unwelcome. And why "eventually" instead of literally today? But anyway, he thinks that all verbal requests are minor things and actions (banhammers) speak louder than words. It's a very common and bad attitude to life. Things shouldn't have to escalate so much for problems to get solved.


Dagny at 1:57 PM on November 27, 2018 | #11417 | reply | quote

> Evan thinks if he isn't actually BANNED then he must be welcome here in some sense, not have crossed the line too much.

> There are a lot of ppl who basically only listen to punishments and think if you don’t punish then you aren’t serious and don't mind.

This is kinda like someone thinking that if you don't call the police right away, then they are welcome in your house


Anonymous at 1:59 PM on November 27, 2018 | #11418 | reply | quote

>I don't know what goes on in your head and I find your particular emotional problem uninteresting because you even explicitly oppose altruism. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. I've had moral integrity from a very young age and can't relate. You need socialization badly.

This is a combination of

1) ignorance of Ayn Rand's moral philosophy and

2) vicious, nasty, cruel personal attacks

What's interesting to me is that Evan engages in this combination of ignorance and malevolence while pleading his moral integrity.


❓🤔❓A Mysterious Person ❓🤔❓ at 2:02 PM on November 27, 2018 | #11419 | reply | quote

> What's interesting to me is that Evan engages in this combination of ignorance and malevolence while pleading his moral integrity.

That struck me more as *sadly typical* :/


Anonymous at 2:03 PM on November 27, 2018 | #11420 | reply | quote

>> What's interesting to me is that Evan engages in this combination of ignorance and malevolence while pleading his moral integrity.

> That struck me more as *sadly typical* :/

:-(


❓🤔❓A Mysterious Person ❓🤔❓ at 2:05 PM on November 27, 2018 | #11421 | reply | quote

You can now manually use a start parameter in urls. Example:

http://curi.us/2126-open-discussion?comments=40&start=11400

Unlike the comment limit, it's not maintained if you click links.

This lets you permalink a specific comment and also have a fast page load.

Let's say I like #11419

Then I will use that id as the start, and choose how many extra comments, i want, say up to 9 more after it:

http://curi.us/2126-open-discussion?comments=10&start=11419

This will let me make newsletter links that load faster. The comment limited feature couldn't be used with permalinks before because if you limit to the 20 latest comments and ppl post 20 new comments then the thing you were linking wouldn't be included anymore.


curi at 2:38 PM on November 27, 2018 | #11422 | reply | quote


Anonymous at 2:49 PM on November 27, 2018 | #11423 | reply | quote

#11414

> Dagny by insubstantial I was referring to your claim that I'm not open to your better way of learning that you won't state. To make that claim out of nowhere is so socially repulsive I would guess you have no friends. You could learn that it's incorrect to do this by going outside ever and talking to someone. Paranoia means theories about people that are irrational and cause you fear.

i find it interesting that evan has interpreted the situation as though Dagny is experiencing fear.

> Elliot you are a person who wastes his time slandering people. I'm sorry I didn't respond to Alan's last comment for awhile but I was homeless and hungry, looking for jobs and places to stay for a few months starting roughly around that time. I fully expect that you will eventually hate me so much that you block me on all your websites or whatever. I don't know what goes on in your head and I find your particular emotional problem uninteresting because you even explicitly oppose altruism. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.

How would evan know that elliot’s position on altruism is dumb? he doesn’t say whether or not he’s even investigated it, let alone understood it to the point that he could make an honest judgement of it.

> I've had moral integrity from a very young age and can't relate.

I don’t think Evan knows what the word integrity means. he's sorta implying that elliot has doesn't something that goes against his principles but as far as i can see, elliot has not done that, and evan has not explained (nor even stated without explanation) that elliot has acted contrary to his principles.

> You need socialization badly. I tried to help you in twitter dms. Maybe you have a delusion that you shouldn't do things people recommend until they respond to the games you play with discussions and launching highly irrational criticisms at every detail of people's claims, making your discussions intractable.

evan doesn’t seem to be giving elliot the benefit of the doubt. whether or not somebody should take somebody else’s suggestion depends on whether or not he’s convinced that doing the suggestion would benefit him. so if somebody suggests that i read something, i’m not doing it unless i’m convinced i’ll benefit. that may involve asking the suggestor to tell me what’s good about it, how it will benefit me, etc. if that discussion ends without me being convinced, i’m not reading what was suggested.

> I come on here to discuss important things like philosophy, and the only use you can find for it is to try to create interpersonal drama. It is no wonder no one likes you, and you will only get dumber and dumber if you keep wasting your time like this.

but it’s not true that no one likes elliot. i think he’s the best. i’m glad to know him and glad for our interactions.

one thing i especially like about elliot is his honesty. especially his honesty about how i’m behaving. *especially* his honesty about cases where i’m being dishonest. he’s shining a light on something that i’m refusing to shine a light on myself (and no else i know has shined a light on). i appreciate that very much. No one else is good/smart enough to treat me that way. (Well maybe there are others who are good/smart enough but they haven’t done it, so I wouldn’t know.)


44783 at 3:01 PM on November 27, 2018 | #11424 | reply | quote

#11424

thx

FYI the Twitter DMs Evan is referring to began with

> Try meditating to porn. rsd fucked me up.

Then there are 5 more messages (that's it) on the same topic. RSD is Real Social Dynamics (a PUA group that i think is pretty good) e.g. https://www.youtube.com/user/RSDTyler

Saying he tried to help me in Twitter DMs is not honest. It wasn't even about philosophy. He just tried to get me to hate/reject PUA or something ... while knowing absolutely nothing about my personal/dating life and what problems it does and doesn't have.


curi at 3:10 PM on November 27, 2018 | #11425 | reply | quote

> but it’s not true that no one likes elliot. i think he’s the best. i’m glad to know him and glad for our interactions.

god i have *so many* fans i'm not even confident about guessing who wrote this. can't keep track of them all! i feel a bit confused. commonly when ppl write that much i can tell who it is.


curi at 3:25 PM on November 27, 2018 | #11427 | reply | quote

> i find it interesting that evan has interpreted the situation as though Dagny is experiencing fear.

This comment is either passive-aggressive (against Evan) or it's really socially oblivious. "Interesting" can be literal, but it's a very commonly used word for equivocations and not directly saying what one actually means. In this case, it appears to be a standard interesting=bad kinda use where the person meant that Evan was wrong and dumb, and wanted to draw attention to the issue, but didn't want to say it openly.


Dagny at 5:18 PM on November 27, 2018 | #11428 | reply | quote

>> i find it interesting that evan has interpreted the situation as though Dagny is experiencing fear.

> This comment is either passive-aggressive (against Evan) or it's really socially oblivious. "Interesting" can be literal, but it's a very commonly used word for equivocations and not directly saying what one actually means. In this case, it appears to be a standard interesting=bad kinda use where the person meant that Evan was wrong and dumb, and wanted to draw attention to the issue, but didn't want to say it openly.

That’s interesting too.

How can I or you figure out which one it is?

If I was passive aggressive I wanna fix that and never do it again.


44783 at 6:21 PM on November 27, 2018 | #11429 | reply | quote

#11429

Oh and if it’s socially oblivious, I wanna know more details. Oblivious of what social thing ?


Anonymous at 6:23 PM on November 27, 2018 | #11430 | reply | quote

#11430

Maybe the social thing I was oblivious of is that Evan didn’t really think that dagny was paranoid and rather it was just an attack for the audience to see.


44783 at 6:25 PM on November 27, 2018 | #11431 | reply | quote

The social thing you may be oblivious of is the issue I already brought up, e.g.:

- "interesting" is vague and unclear

- "interesting" often means "bad"

- "interesting" is a way to draw attention to things while avoiding saying what you think about them

- "interesting" is a way to attack people while having plausible deniability that you attacked them (you can say they are overreacting to nothing if they respond negatively)


Dagny at 6:57 PM on November 27, 2018 | #11432 | reply | quote

https://www.americancommitment.org/content/senate-republicans-are-blocking-trump-appointments

> President Trump has hundreds of unfilled presidentially appointed positions because Democrats have stalled the nominations process out as much as their diminished power in the post-nuclear Senate has allowed. But it is the Republican majority that has placed a total blockade on the usual safety valve for temporary appointments – the recess appointment power – by refusing to go on recess for the last two years. And with Democrats set to take the House and be in position to deny the Senate consent to recess starting January 3, there is a real possibility that President Trump will go an entire presidential term without being able to make recess appointments.

> It has been nearly eight years since the United States Senate officially recessed – a streak aided by the practice of holding so-called pro forma sessions every three days throughout every adjournment.

> President Bill Clinton used the recess appointment power 139 times, including 96 full-time positions. President George W. Bush used it 171 times, including 99 full-time positions.

> You might reasonably expect no president will ever get recess appointments again except when the same party controls the House, Senate, and president. But for the last two years, the same party – the Republican Party – has in fact controlled the House, Senate, and president. And yet, the Senate has never recessed.


Anonymous at 11:44 PM on November 27, 2018 | #11434 | reply | quote

#11417

> What a jerk to do things he expects to be hated and knows are unwelcome. And why "eventually" instead of literally today? But anyway, he thinks that all verbal requests are minor things and actions (banhammers) speak louder than words. It's a very common and bad attitude to life.

I’m unsure about this last part. How do you integrate it with this:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/fallible-ideas/rbw7OXCH6Jw/PuGYDOqSBwAJ

>These people – almost everyone – only state requests as a last resort, as a major escalation. So if you make a request to them, they think it's an ultimatum, a very strong demand with no flexibility, no remaining opportunity to negotiate or discuss.

My guess is that in most social situations Evan would probably act like most ppl and consider a verbal request a big deal. He’d want to get along with ppl and have smooth social interactions. In order to achieve this, he’d take requests seriously. Furthermore, like most ppl, he’d often try to guess what the other person wants and then preemptively do that so they don’t even have to verbally ask (this fits with him being altruistic).

But this social situation is *different* to him.

I don’t know exactly what’s going on, but he clearly doesn’t give a fuck about the interaction going well. He’s fully expecting (maybe welcoming??) being banned or hated or whatever and doesn’t seem to care. So, with these ideas by his side, maybe he’s given himself license to be a jerk and try to attack and hurt ET. He sort of comes off as though he’s fed up (with something?) and not going to take it anymore. Also, he sort of comes off as though he’s testing the situation. And when there’s no downside to him (e.g. he’s not afraid of being banned or hated in this case), then he’s willing to see just how far he can push it.


Anonymous at 7:35 AM on November 28, 2018 | #11436 | reply | quote

> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/fallible-ideas/rbw7OXCH6Jw/PuGYDOqSBwAJ

>> These people – almost everyone – only state requests as a last resort, as a major escalation. So if you make a request to them, they think it's an ultimatum, a very strong demand with no flexibility, no remaining opportunity to negotiate or discuss.

> My guess is that in most social situations Evan would probably act like most ppl and consider a verbal request a big deal. He’d want to get along with ppl and have smooth social interactions. In order to achieve this, he’d take requests seriously. Furthermore, like most ppl, he’d often try to guess what the other person wants and then preemptively do that so they don’t even have to verbally ask (this fits with him being altruistic).

Evan being relatively conventional when it comes to requests is also consistent with him not wanting to come out and directly ask for what he wants. Dagny talked about this in #11415.

>He just doesn't want to say or think about what he *is* asking for.


Anonymous at 9:15 AM on November 28, 2018 | #11437 | reply | quote

xkcd ignorantly flaming Popper with "it's a joke" to hide behind if called on his bullshit:

https://xkcd.com/2078/


Anonymous at 11:12 AM on November 28, 2018 | #11438 | reply | quote

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curi at 1:43 PM on November 28, 2018 | #11439 | reply | quote

One SPICY Coulter column today, even for her:

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2018-11-28.html


Anonymous at 1:48 PM on November 28, 2018 | #11440 | reply | quote

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2018/12/04/samsung-portrait-mode-fraud

Fraud by Samsung. Advertising the pictures their phone can take using pictures taken by other cameras. Again.


Anonymous at 12:41 PM on December 4, 2018 | #11446 | reply | quote

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/12/06/hes-not-capable-trump-has-achieved-nothing-tucker-carlson-says/

> “His chief promises were that he would build the wall, defund Planned Parenthood and repeal Obamacare, and he hasn’t done any of those things,” Carlson said, adding that those goals were probably lost causes. Trump, he said, doesn’t understand the system, and his own agencies don’t support him.

> “He knows very little about the legislative process, hasn’t learned anything, hasn’t surrounded himself with people that can get it done, hasn’t done all the things you need to do, so it’s mostly his fault that he hasn’t achieved those things,” he added.


Anonymous at 2:30 PM on December 6, 2018 | #11449 | reply | quote

#11449 Tucker is partly saying that to imply that *he* knows how to do those things if he were Prez. He would surround himself with the right ppl (and way more ppl think that means them than there are slots for), he knows how legislation works and can get things done, etc.

This kind of self-serving self-promotion is not reliable as information about other ppl like Trump.

Also, when Carlson says those things – wall, fixing healthcare, stop tax-funding PP – are lost causes, doesn't that mean he in fact *does not* know how to get things done? Cause it doesn't sound like he's saying they are lost cause *for Trump* but he could do them. We need a prez who thinks those are NOT lost causes! (esp wall and healthcare, the PP thing is a way smaller issue)


Anonymous at 2:40 PM on December 6, 2018 | #11450 | reply | quote

> #11449 Tucker is partly saying that to imply that *he* knows how to do those things if he were Prez. He would surround himself with the right ppl (and way more ppl think that means them than there are slots for), he knows how legislation works and can get things done, etc.

> This kind of self-serving self-promotion is not reliable as information about other ppl like Trump.

I agree Tucker is self promoting but his criticisms also seemed kinda fair overall.

> Also, when Carlson says those things – wall, fixing healthcare, stop tax-funding PP – are lost causes, doesn't that mean he in fact *does not* know how to get things done? Cause it doesn't sound like he's saying they are lost cause *for Trump* but he could do them. We need a prez who thinks those are NOT lost causes! (esp wall and healthcare, the PP thing is a way smaller issue)

It was ambiguous to me what he meant by lost causes. He could mean doomed to fail from start, or lost cause at this point in Trump's term with Dems taking House (but maybe hope in future), or now a lost cause forever cuz Trump failed.


Anonymous at 5:18 PM on December 6, 2018 | #11451 | reply | quote

i watched a video called "This Is Why You're Fat" by the infographic show, it was really bad.

it literally never mentioned calories in vs calories out, and at 6:25 it says "stick to low fat and low calorie food", how does that help for weight loss? so what if its 50% fat? how many calories is it? calories is the only thing that matters for long term weight loss

it dissed fast food as well for no reason. i guess its a common enough cultural believe that fast food is bad, that you can mention fast food in passing in a video on how to lose weight, and it implies fast food is bad.

it also is spreading myths to make you eat more, at 2:46 "everyone knows you cant have dessert until after you eat your dinner, but maybe its time to skip dessert all together", but what if dessert is my favorite part? does that mean i HAVE to eat dinner if i am only interested in the dessert? why cant i just skip dinner? or maybe have a dinner i actually like so i dont feel like i need dessert. it never answers those questions, or gives alternatives.

good advice in the video: dont shop while hungry, that makes sense. when your shopping for food, youll look at a food and think "yeah id eat that" and then buy it, even if you dislike it compared to other foods that you usually buy, or you buy to much food cuz you constantly think "id eat that" cuz your hungry right now.


internetrules at 6:20 AM on December 7, 2018 | #11452 | reply | quote

George Reisman followed me on Twitter:

He wrote a *very very very* good book on capitalism. Left sidebar: http://capitalism.net


curi at 8:04 AM on December 7, 2018 | #11453 | reply | quote

The Ayn Rand Institute: seeking donors on the basis of their special government privileges. I think getting the privilege may be OK, and mentioning it too, but not *focusing lots of attention on it, as if government privileges are a major selling point*. Ayn Rand would be appalled.


curi at 1:38 PM on December 7, 2018 | #11454 | reply | quote

https://www.takimag.com/article/the-merits-of-nepotism-and-boasting/

> Take that ghastly soul-destroying document, the curriculum vitae. It is as inherently inflationary as clipping the coinage or fiat money. A friend of mine, whom I knew to be competent and conscientious, consistently failed to be appointed to positions for which he was eminently qualified. My wife, who knew the ways of modern appointment committees, asked to see the curriculum vitae he was supplying with his applications for the jobs.

> She was horrified: He would never get a job with such a curriculum, it was far too old-fashioned. It gave merely his formal qualifications and the positions he had previously held, with references. No, no, said my wife to him, what you need is to boast. You have to make out that your piddling research might be chosen very soon for a Nobel Prize, that your occasional good deeds were as at great a personal sacrifice as those of Mother Teresa, and that you are a person whose outside interests are carried out at levels equal to the professional; in other words that you are multitalented, multivalent, and quite out of the ordinary. Moreover, your ambition must be to save the world, to be a pioneer and a path-breaker, not merely to do your best in the circumstances. You must be grandiose, not modest.

> Of course, every other applicant would be similarly boastful, and so, like star architects trying to outdo each other in the outlandish nature of their buildings, my friend’s boasts had to be preposterous, quite out of keeping with his admirable character. But once he had swallowed the bitter pill of realism, he was appointed at once. We all have to be Barons Munchausen now.


Anonymous at 6:08 AM on December 9, 2018 | #11456 | reply | quote

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/school-lunch-rules-ok-refined-grains-low-fat-chocolate-milk-n945026

> The U.S. school lunch program is making room on menus again for noodles, biscuits, tortillas and other foods made mostly of refined grains.

> The Trump administration is scaling back contested school lunch standards implemented under the Obama administration including one that required only whole grains be served. The U.S. Department of Agriculture said Thursday *only half the grains served will need to be whole grains*, a change it said will do away with the current bureaucracy of requiring schools to obtain special waivers to serve select refined grains foods.

Emphasis added. One step towards evil, half a step back to reasonableness? This still sucks. Same with allowing only low fat chocolate milk instead of none, it's only making it partially better and it's still worse than the past.


Anonymous at 2:53 PM on December 10, 2018 | #11457 | reply | quote

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/10/09/the-good-censor-leaked-google-briefing-admits-abandonment-of-free-speech-for-safety-and-civility/

> An internal company briefing produced by Google and leaked exclusively to Breitbart News argues that due to a variety of factors, including the election of President Trump, the “American tradition” of free speech on the internet is no longer viable.

> But the 85-page briefing, titled “The Good Censor,” admits that Google and other tech platforms now “control the majority of online conversations” and have undertaken a “shift towards censorship” in response to unwelcome political events around the world.

They actually called *themselves* censors.

> The briefing labels the ideal of unfettered free speech on the internet a “utopian narrative” that has been “undermined” by recent global events as well as “bad behavior” on the part of users. It can be read in full below.

> The briefing argues that Google, Facebook, YouTube and Twitter are caught between two incompatible positions, the “unmediated marketplace of ideas” vs. “well-ordered spaces for safety and civility.”

> The first approach is described as a product of the “American tradition” which “prioritizes free speech for democracy, not civility.” The second is described as a product of the “European tradition,” which “favors dignity over liberty and civility over freedom.” The briefing claims that all tech platforms are now moving toward the European tradition.

jfc. good article. it's well worth reading more highlights from the document.


Anonymous at 11:20 PM on December 11, 2018 | #11458 | reply | quote

What do you think?

(This is a free speech zone!)