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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16835680 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16856753 patio11 comments Discussion 2018/04/17
Satire from 2003 Anonymous Why I Oppose Porn 2018/04/15
The O'Neil article referred to in the twitter thread does not even mention derangement or compulsion. Deutsch seems not to have noticed this. Deutsch is correct to say: > But one can't understand *why* something is happening if one has drastic misc Anonymous Discussion 2018/04/15
These arguments seem humorous. Is this post "satire"? FF Why I Oppose Porn 2018/04/15
I updated this post with DD's sorta response: > You are blocked from following @DavidDeutschOxf and viewing @DavidDeutschOxf's Tweets. curi Accepting vs. Preferring Theories – Reply to David Deutsch 2018/04/14
I just saw that DD blocked me on twitter. I guess it was a response to this? http://curi.us/2102-accepting-vs-preferring-theories-reply-to-david-deutsch God DD's gone downhill. See also this followup about anti-semitism: https://twitter.com/j curi Discussion 2018/04/14
David Deutsch on anti-semitism: https://mobile.twitter.com/DavidDeutschOxf/status/984769600406605829 > Yes, it's a derangement—the most harmful and dangerous in Western society. Very widespread. But *it's not hatred*, though it sometimes caus Anonymous Discussion 2018/04/14
>purpose makes success possible and purpose also makes failure possible. it’s a risk but it’s so necessary to a worthwhile life. yeah, and if you're not trying to make clear objectives your life will not be random, it will still have some purpo guilherme Goals & Purpose 2018/04/13
we use specific parts of quantum theory to solve specific problems. those parts are not refuted for use in those contexts. we have meta theories about what parts can be used for what, which are not refuted, which are what we act on. see https://yesorn curi Accepting vs. Preferring Theories – Reply to David Deutsch 2018/04/10
Quantum theory and gravity *have been refuted*. There are no non-refuted theories of quantum theory/gravity. Yet we use them. Anonymous Accepting vs. Preferring Theories – Reply to David Deutsch 2018/04/10
qtif oh my god it's turpentine Accepting vs. Preferring Theories – Reply to David Deutsch 2018/04/08
quantum theory is false oh my god it's turpentine Accepting vs. Preferring Theories – Reply to David Deutsch 2018/04/08
> Tentatively accepting an idea (for a problem context) doesn't mean accepting it as true, so "sure it's false" doesn't contradict acceptance. That is going to sound awfully confusing to most people. Why does Deutsch say he is sure quantum theor Anonymous Accepting vs. Preferring Theories – Reply to David Deutsch 2018/04/07
I use google news FF Discussion 2018/04/06
Try Breitbart. If you find it unsatisfactory in some way, say what way to help figure out what else to try. Anonymous Discussion 2018/04/05
to know what people are talking about in conversation. to feel connected to society. to know more about who or what to vote for. to prepare for changes in society that might affect me. a person Discussion 2018/04/05
#9279 what purpose do you have in mind for the news you're looking for? Some examples: - For material to start or understand small talk with co-workers - To sound smart and in-the-know at parties - To know who/what to vote for in the next elect PAS Discussion 2018/04/05
what's a good way to find out about general current news without spending a lot of time on it? i want a source that is truthful and not biased, to the extent that's possible. a person Discussion 2018/04/05
#9727 with the self-referential comment, heh. doesn't even say which thing he thinks is incoherent (presumably either what DD said or what ET said, but there's no clues provided about which). that leaves his comment incoherent (we can't read some clea Anonymous David Deutsch Interview Undermines His Philosophy 2018/03/31
Incoherent babble Anonymous David Deutsch Interview Undermines His Philosophy 2018/03/31
which authority (in person form) validated/proclaimed/authorized that you're right and other people you disagree with are wrong? bad question, bad demand. Anonymous Standards of Understanding 2018/03/22
Who is to say your understanding of yourself and understanding itself is not confused and ignorant misunderstanding? Anonymous Standards of Understanding 2018/03/22
LG might start trolling again. Don't remind her that I exist. curi Discussion 2018/03/21
you can talk to her Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/21
since lg has stopped trolling et. are people allowed to talk to her? ff Discussion 2018/03/21
Are people allowed to talk to Banned members now? FF Discussion 2018/03/21
To be clear: LT seems to have failed. RIP. Her tweets are often bad and she doesn't want criticism of them. she seems to have quit FI. @DD he's careful with precisely what he says so that he's not wrong about global warming. you seem to have po curi Discussion 2018/03/20
Yeah you said something different - I was going by memory. The context was people who will make the most progress in the next hundred years. Will take a look at the thread you mentioned. Was prompted to make my comment after reading some LT/DT tweets. Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/20
Don't attribute claims to me without sources. If you had checked the source you're talking about, you would have seen that I said something different. You might have also noticed the context and followup explanations. Anyway, I wrote extensive anal curi Discussion 2018/03/18
#9715 i'm curious as to what evidence you have regarding your claim "You have communicated that LT was the world's second best philosopher" Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/18
I never said that. Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/18
You have communicated that LT was the world's second best philosopher. You no longer think that. Why have you not posted to say why? Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/18
i liked this quote from _Made in Japan_: > [In foreign countries] Ironically, we took advantage of a handicap in the beginning, which was that we were unknown and we could not recruit university graduates, who would find this little foreign company curi Sample Paths Forward Dialog 2018/03/16
I updated to post to rename him from Morita to Akio (his first name) in the dialog. curi Sample Paths Forward Dialog 2018/03/16
Peikoff covers the stoics in his history of philosophy audio lectures. i think they have some major flaws and don't offer any value i can't get better somewhere else. Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/16
Morita: I am willing to join FI under a pseudonym. Curi: You can use my anon a/c FF: Have you read "The fountainhead"? Morita: NO!!!! FF: Are you going to read it? Morita: No, I am busy FF: How is it like being dead? Morita: .... FF Sample Paths Forward Dialog 2018/03/16
the Stoic tries to deal with the world as it is while pursuing self-improvement through four cardinal virtues: practical wisdom, the ability to navigate complex situations in a logical, informed, and calm manner; temperance, the exercise o FF Discussion 2018/03/16
Stoics taught to transform emotions in order to achieve inner calm. Emotions – of fear, or anger, or love, say – are instinctive human reactions to certain situations, and cannot be avoided. But the reflective mind can distance itself from the ra FF Discussion 2018/03/16
I also liked the part where they advise to live like a homeless person to train ourselves for the worse. FF Discussion 2018/03/16
> FF can you share some quotes or ideas from stoicism that you like Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. We are more often frightened than hurt; and we suffer more from imagination ff Discussion 2018/03/16
FF can you share some quotes or ideas from stoicism that you like Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/15
I used to do this as a kid. FF Sucking In Your Gut 2018/03/15
> What do you think of Stoicism FF Some of it looks good. FF Discussion 2018/03/15
What do you think of Stoicism FF Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/15
What does FI think of Stoicism? FF Discussion 2018/03/15
#9700 > what about masterbation? how often do you do it? what do you look at or think about while doing it? Is it like eating where you should do it whenever ur hungry? any tips? no i don't think hungry and horny work the same way. i think peopl Anonymous 23 Ways To Keep Your Romance Alive 2018/03/15
what about masterbation? how often do you do it? what do you look at or think about while doing it? Is it like eating where you should do it whenever ur hungry? any tips? another-anon 23 Ways To Keep Your Romance Alive 2018/03/14
> Is it okay to *not* want romance, or sex? Do you mean: can a person be happy without romance/sex? Yes > Why not just admit it gets boring and stop doing it? That would be good. I think ppl don’t do that because that is socially disapprov Anonymous 23 Ways To Keep Your Romance Alive 2018/03/14
Is it okay to *not* want romance, or sex? Why not just admit it gets boring and stop doing it? Do people really need romance and sex? Could they all just change their ideas to not want it? anon 23 Ways To Keep Your Romance Alive 2018/03/14
Do more dialogs. I want Caeli (alter-ego) back. FF 23 Ways To Keep Your Romance Alive 2018/03/14
I just edited a video from 94min (1 continuous section) to 517 parts and 55min. Final Cut Pro had a bug and lost all my ~40 speed increases (which save ~7min) and I had to redo them all. It was beachballing so I quit it and it took a minute to end bac curi Discussion 2018/03/13
> Is it true persuasion works most of the time irl? I’m having a hard time quantifying that but in my personal experience, it’s pretty mixed, maybe 50/50, maybe worse. People really suck at this stuff and give up quickly. you think people fight Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/11
Good points, thanks. > most of the time, despite people being dumb or irrational in various ways, persuasion works OK and no force is used Is it true persuasion works most of the time irl? I’m having a hard time quantifying that but in my pers Anon69 Discussion 2018/03/11
> If someone is making a [list of benefits] > [list of downsides] type argument, they aren't ignoring or not caring about the downsides, that style of argument involves NOT addressing the downsides and solving the problems, just vaguely claiming t Anonymous Monetary Privacy!? 2018/03/10
> bitcoin is sorta bad at privacy. it records transactions in the public blockchain. True. If someone can connect your public key to you then they can look up all your transactions. For cryptos with this issue, mixers / tumblers try to help with th Anon69 Monetary Privacy!? 2018/03/10
> -Enables privacy bitcoin is sorta bad at privacy. it records transactions in the public blockchain. > -Option to use currencies with a value not tied to govt, which can reduce exposure to bad policy, corruption, hyper inflation, etc except Anonymous Monetary Privacy!? 2018/03/10
The basic form of argument I remember hearing for why cryptocurrency is good despite enabling some crimes is that [list of benefits] > [list of downsides] (those lists seem to be complex and evolving). Not a great argument since it's hard to quantify/ Anon69 Monetary Privacy!? 2018/03/10
people are persuadable somehow. if you don't know how, that is in fact a weakness in your knowledge. you don't know how to address all their objections, issues, etc. most of the time, despite people being dumb or irrational in various ways, persuas Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/10
Capitalism Essay Anon69 Discussion 2018/03/10
Regular cooking savings going to extra ingredients rather than cash saved is an interesting point. I suspect Gobble is making my food spending more efficient in the sense of increasing the amount of my food outlay that winds up getting *eaten*. Cuz I Anonymous Why Gobble? 2018/03/09
Not implying you're wrong, I'm not familiar with the issue. Just thought I'd check because it's common for ppl to make this sort of claim without looking much. Also, my impression is that the crypto/blockchain community is rather large and sprea Anon69 Monetary Privacy!? 2018/03/09
> Where / who did you check with on that? Public information. Did you have a counter example that you decided to withhold so far while implying I'm wrong? Anonymous Monetary Privacy!? 2018/03/08
> Bitcoin and others have not attempted to solve the problem of monetary privacy *while also addressing the way privacy facilitates some bad things, especially crime*. They don't seem to care that they are used in crime. Where / who did you check w Anon69 Monetary Privacy!? 2018/03/08
Overreaching Anon69 Discussion 2018/03/08
bitcoin should fund healthcare for the poor Gomy Monetary Privacy!? 2018/03/07
Bitcoin and others have not attempted to solve the problem of monetary privacy *while also addressing the way privacy facilitates some bad things, especially crime*. They don't seem to care that they are used in crime. Anonymous Monetary Privacy!? 2018/03/07
#9679 i bet there's a video game where your sense perception is warped in some way, and part of the point of the game is you learn to get used to it. i know some games have short sections where e.g. the controls are reversed (left = right and vice Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/06
> What are some good strategies for learning inexplicit knowledge? This is relevant question for me in the following way. Recently I developed an inner ear problem that is affecting my sense of balance. Basically, my inner ear is sending incorrect Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/06
>@kate: overreaching I wondered if you'd say that. I'm working on an FI post on overreaching. I'll ask my questions there. Kate Discussion 2018/03/04
to be a meme something needs knowledge to cause its own replication. most ideas you create are terrible at replicating. most of those don't last long in your mind though. curi Discussion 2018/03/04
> To a first approximation the agents in your mind are: > 60% static memes > 30% dynamic memes > 10% non-memes What's an example of a non-meme agent in the mind? I don't understand. Anne B Discussion 2018/03/04
> he should have shipped his books to africa what? Anonymous Goldratt vs. Japan 2018/03/04
@kate: overreaching curi Discussion 2018/03/04
he should have shipped his books to africa Anonymous Goldratt vs. Japan 2018/03/04
>Where does that *choice* fit in? Is it itself an agent? Maybe it'd be better to ask, "Is it itself the result of an agent?" Kate Discussion 2018/03/04
Consider choosing to take initiative vs choosing passivity (which puts you more at the mercy of the static memes in your mind). Where does that *choice* fit in? Is it itself an agent? Is it part of the 10% non-memes? Kate Discussion 2018/03/04
> Think of your mind as a huge collection of semi-autonomous agents. Why are the agents semi-autonomous rather than fully autonomous? What's restricting their autonomy? Also, how does the concept of choice or free will fit into this explanation Kate Discussion 2018/03/04
Yes, I meant static memes and, yes, memes are agents. By "target particular agents" I meant static memes have knowledge about other specific agents in your mind such that when you acquire those static memes they damage or displace or contribute to tho Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/04
> Memes know how to target particular agents. This is misleading. First, because it says "memes" when it presumably means "static memes". Second, because the primary things memes do is they *are* agents, rather than targeting agents. To a first curi Discussion 2018/03/03
Nearly everyone already has the problem of internal conflicts. The self -- the thing we call the "I" -- is a kind of lie. It's a construct made up by your mind so you can answer questions like "Why are you doing that?" Your mind pushes out a kind of s Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/03
Tulpas Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/03
Didn't mean to imply they are similar. My understanding is that Szasz was a libertarian whereas Laing was a socialist. They had very different philosophical outlooks. I mentioned Laing because Laing was big in Britain during Deutsch's youth. My mother Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/03
> You're boring. It'd be better to say, "You're being boring." I don't know much about the person in general, I know about their messages in this particular conversation. Being more precise makes it easier for people to treat a negative message as curi Discussion 2018/03/03
Szasz and Laing are not similar. Szasz wrote at length explaining the differences to address that misconception. Please don't spread that myth. DD read Szasz but only understood half of it; DD's mixed about that stuff. curi Discussion 2018/03/02
Thanks for the link. Interesting. Seems like Deutsch has read Thomas Szasz and R D Laing. I agree that the idea of mental health is a crock and there is no such thing as mental illness. Has Deutsch written about Szasz? Sad he fell for the mirror neuro Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/02
Mirror neurons are junk science as I explained to DD multiple times before BoI's publication. What sort of junk science? *Autism junk science!!!!!!* So it's particularly nasty. DD used to care about such things: http://web.archive.org/web/200306200821 curi Discussion 2018/03/02
GP OMGIT Here's my thoughts on what was before Deutsch's "Therefore". Deutsch says that animals like apes can pass on pre-creative memes because of hard-coded programs installed into their brains from their genes. He says that in the precursors Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/02
> #9655 wasn't me (the one asking the questions) anonymous posting is confusing sometimes :/ and it's not your fault. it's the other guy's fault. he wrote a post using the same name as you and didn't write "not the OP but..." in front (as people author of #9657 Discussion 2018/03/01
#9655 wasn't me (the one asking the questions) Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/01
> Kinda ironic complaining you get called arrogant then saying just that to someone. you came to curi's blog, ignored 80% of what he said, and don't seem to value him, and then you get upset he has better things to do than answer your bad questions Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/01
therefore oh my god it's turpentine Discussion 2018/03/01
> when i say this people always accuse me of arrogance and want demonstrations. > You're demanding a lot of my time while, from my perspective, being an aggressive, arrogant fool. Kinda ironic complaining you get called arrogant then saying ju Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/01
>> Is it possible for the creativity program to be entirely memetic? If not, and if it is not entirely genetic, what are the minimal requirements on the genes for the creativity program to bootstrap itself memetically? > what do u mean "entirely me Anon2 Discussion 2018/03/01
You're boring. curi Discussion 2018/03/01
Before I agree to the bet I would need a precise description of what the issue is and for us to agree on that and also for the terms of adjudication and that we agree on those. Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/01
btw,it was not like you had to scroll up far or even at all to see what I was referring to. What I was referring was in my immediately preceding comment and the only intervening comment was Dagny's, who I was talking to. You are trying to peg me with Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/01
> No. You were wrong. Want to bet $1000 on the matter, or are you not really so confident after all? You're demanding a lot of my time while, from my perspective, being an aggressive, arrogant fool. You aren't offering value to me and you don't see curi Discussion 2018/03/01
Atlas Shrugged: > Taggart could not understand the transition from the laughter to the sudden tone of Dagny’s voice; the voice was cold and harsh: “Drop it, Jim. I know everything you’re going to say. Nobody’s ever used it before. Nobody ap Dagny Discussion 2018/03/01
No, it was not an unclear reference and I did not say it was unclear. You were blatantly wrong that I had not specified what Deutsch's suggestion was. And when I clearly point out how I referred to it you say I made an inadequate attempt to debate the Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/01
an inadequate attempt to debate the point (you say it was an unclear reference to something that is itself inadequate) followed by a request for another demonstration! kinda exactly what i predicted and preempted. no thanks. curi Discussion 2018/03/01
> this is a major writing error b/c you refer to "Deutsch's suggestion" without specifying what that is. I was referring to what I said in #9641: > My question comes from Deutsch's speculation at the end of one of the BoI chapters on memes whe Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/01
Overreaching curi Discussion 2018/03/01
you are not communicating coherently, and behind that you don't have a coherent concept of the issues you're trying to talk about. it's confused in your own mind, and much worse after it goes through a communication process to others. i'm guessing you Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/01
I know genes must construct the hardware but my question was about the software and in particular the minimum software. I'm wondering how Deutsch's suggestion can work because how can you split a universal program so that only part of it comes from ge Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/01
> Dagny - I wrote #9634 but not #9635. i know. why would i point out you should have thought of something yourself if i thought you also wrote the reply comment stating it? anyway your questions are unproductive and aimless, and you seem uninte Dagny Discussion 2018/03/01
Dagny - I wrote #9634 but not #9635. My question comes from Deutsch's speculation at the end of one of the BoI chapters on memes where he suggests the creativity program is installed partly from genes and partly from memes. Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/01
do you think you have a single clear picture of how memes work, with no contradictions? if not, you should try to sort our the contradictions in your thinking – perhaps with targeted questions relating to actual issues, combined with some actual exp Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/01
what do you want to *do* with answers you receive? Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/01
do you have any questions about specific things any of them said? all your questions are vague and you're still not giving any useful context about what your problem situation is. Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/01
Have read Deutsch, Dawkins, Dennett, and Blackmore. Deutsch has the best understanding and explanations. Am re-reading hence my questions. Have you read Dennett's Freedom Evolves and his Darwin's Dangerous Idea? Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/01
> genes are necessary to build the hardware and do some initial programming. memes can't do that, they don't even exist until after that's done. this is kinda obvious. i think you would know this yourself if you thought about it. there's something Dagny Discussion 2018/03/01
what do u mean "entirely memetic"? genes are necessary to build the hardware and do some initial programming. memes can't do that, they don't even exist until after that's done. Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/01
Creativity program Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/01
what do u want to understand about memes? what problem(s) do you want to solve? your questions seem like the standard way ppl are aimlessly trying to be clever but not following real interests/problems. Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/01
trying to think up questions about memes that I haven't seen people ask. is there a good FAQ somewhere with these kind of questions? sometimes I don't know the importance of a question until it is answered. Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/01
> Do dynamic memes always tend in the direction of increased explicit knowledge content? no. i think it'd help if you said more of the motivation for your questions, what you're thinking, why you think these questions are important, what you think Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/01
Dynamic memes Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/01
> Is the primary target of all static memes children? no, e.g. static memes target parents. and all kinds of stuff. children are a particular target b/c how children are treated is super important to the survival of memes in the long term. Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/01
Dynamic memes Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/01
Static memes Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/01
Inexplicit knowledge Anonymous Discussion 2018/03/01
Cost/Benefit PAS Discussion 2018/02/28
Too dangerous to have a gun PAS Discussion 2018/02/28
Friction PAS Discussion 2018/02/27
> What (non-gun-control) things could we do to reduce mass shootings and other murders in the US? In addition to what's already been said for mass shootings: Stop encouraging (culturally and institutionally) people gathering in mass for dumb rea PAS Discussion 2018/02/27
#9619 I see you're not interested in discussing the friction issue, and you're not curious why you came off as anti-gun. curi Discussion 2018/02/27
> it may have some effect of reducing gun murders. this is one example of many biased comments in a short post. if a gun murder is replaced with a knife murder, how does that help? trying to reduce "gun murders", rather than "murders", is a biased Anonymous Discussion 2018/02/27
> why do you hate guns so much? I don't hate guns. I own a gun and glad that I do. > do you hate other types of tools equally? no. > do you have an attitude of relying on the authorities to take care of you? no. anonymous Discussion 2018/02/27
friction helps stops petty crime that isn't very motivated, and emotional crimes without forethought. it doesn't matter much for big, planned crimes with motivations that last over time. friction also disarms lots of victims cuz they don't expect t curi Discussion 2018/02/27
> As background, understand that in any society with significant freedoms any evil person who really wants a gun is going to get one regardless of what the law says about it True. However, friction matters. Wouldn't making it harder to buy a gun re anonymous Discussion 2018/02/27
> What (non-gun-control) things could we do to reduce mass shootings and other murders in the US? build a wall, deport illegal aliens, end anchor babies, stop letting in third world and muslim immigrants who won't be a benefit to the country and co curi Discussion 2018/02/27
> What (non-gun-control) things could we do to reduce mass shootings and other murders in the US? stop forcing kids to go to school who don't want to. this is important both for the bullies and their victims. both sides of that is a bad experience. curi Discussion 2018/02/27
What (non-gun-control) things could we do to reduce mass shootings and other murders in the US? PAS, your answers above make a lot of sense. anon Discussion 2018/02/27
Gun Safety PAS Discussion 2018/02/27
Threats PAS Discussion 2018/02/27
As background, understand that in any society with significant freedoms any evil person who really wants a gun is going to get one regardless of what the law says about it. The law affects primarily good people who follow the law, and only secondarily PAS Discussion 2018/02/27
more gun questions: should gun owners have to learn gun safety like drivers do? are there guns for which the only purpose is killing a lot of people at once? if so, should those guns be outlawed? should people who threaten to kill other peopl TD Discussion 2018/02/27
how much gun control should there be? should any guns be illegal? at what age should people be allowed to own guns? what severity of crime should make it so you are not allowed to have a gun anymore? should people who are much more likely Anonymous Discussion 2018/02/27
Roy Fokker Roy Fokker By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2018/02/27
And if that company's product is fighting crime, they need to be better at fighting crime to survive. Having one institution means no competition, and less incentive (or evolutionary force) to be better at fighting crime. Anonymous Monetary Privacy!? 2018/02/26
Says a bunch of things I agree with then says she was a Bernie Sanders supporter :( On Rand: > Many people have noticed the very real parallels between Ayn Rand and me. (I was born in the United States, however; my mother and all four of my gra Anonymous Discussion 2018/02/25
Camille Paglia Anonymous Discussion 2018/02/25
think anon69 will come back in 2-4 months and act like he never went afk mid discussion here, rather than addressing it? Anonymous Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/25
Thanks for the link! Kate Discussion 2018/02/25
Rand vs Peterson Anonymous Discussion 2018/02/24
I haven't watched much anime for years. curi Goldratt vs. Japan 2018/02/22
Do you watch anime/manga? I've been told these are good: Hero Academy, Assassination Classroom, and Attack on Titan. Any opinions? AssClass seems to have interesting premise about assassinating the teacher. Wonder if it has anything interesting to say Anonymous Goldratt vs. Japan 2018/02/21
> Are you interested in continuing discussion elsewhere, even with the chance that some hostile/mean statements will be made? This kinda thing depends on the attitude to it: e.g. do you start debating it and piling on (as you did to Dagny) and won' curi Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/19
Clarifying that kind of issue by directly asking you is not realistic, because Dagny was looking at information you revealed *inadvertently*, not your intentional opinion. curi Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/19
> What would really be convincing is: just don't act normal. Do something different. Do something incompatible with the theory that you're acting on the standard memes. hmm, I'm not sure what you consider different / not normal, but I'll think abou Anon69 Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/19
FYI, my last message was written without having seen the immediate message before it (came in before page refreshed). Reading it now. Anon69 Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/19
We've been discussing hostility and meanness here but meanwhile there is another discussion pending w/ Russia investigation stuff. You wrote: > there's a big problem with dropping it: but if the underlying issue is not solved, the same thing will h Anon69 Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/19
> The plausible deniability explanation comes into play not with the first alleged statement w/ hostility but when interpreting subsequent replies, particularly if you called out an alleged hostility. > Such an explanation assumes a correct reading curi Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/19
Your explanations about plausible deniability are interesting / make sense. I'll think about those, look for it in my life and interactions with others. I'm still chewing on the software audit stuff. Will listen to your podcast soon. > @#9585: Anon69 Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/19
more info @ ppl r software in my latest podcast: https://curi.us/files/podcasts/intelligence.mp3 curi Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/19
i posted the software audit comment at: http://curi.us/2095-youre-a-complex-software-project-introspection-is-auditing the post also fixes the last sentence, which is broken here. curi Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/19
you are a more complex software project than anything from Apple, IBM, etc. your consciousness gets to *audit* the software and do maintenance and add features. the heart of the software was written in childhood and you don't remember much of it. t curi Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/19
#9586 You're overreaching. You are trying to say complex stuff when you should be trying to get simple stuff right and build up to complex stuff later. The result is it's the wrong complex stuff, and it's nonsense because the complexity wasn't crea curi Programming and Epistemology 2018/02/18
@#9585: None of those explain specifically why there is a hostile reading of what you said, even once, let alone repeatedly. The plausible deniability strategy does offer an explanation of what's going on. It seems to be *the only explanation that any curi Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/18
wut? oh my god it's turpentine Programming and Epistemology 2018/02/18
There exists similarity in "how we go about making decisions in daily life?" and "how we program decisions to take place?". One of the most significant scheme of thinking in classification (at the ground level). We try to classify objects on the basis cant_KANT Programming and Epistemology 2018/02/18
> You still have not provided any alternative explanation for how the ambiguity happens, it's cause. -sloppiness -laziness -rushing, making errors as a result -assuming what the other person knows things they don’t -differences in word usage anon69 Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/18
Can you walk me through how the "standard pattern which are culture teaches everyone to do" applies to this statement by me: > I can honestly say there is were no negative feelings when I wrote my last post. Or now. You may not believe it, but that Anon69 Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/18
You have to judge by good explanations. So on the one hand we have a standard pattern which are culture teaches everyone to do. And on the other hand we have ... random chance? You still have not provided any alternative explanation for how the curi Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/18
I'm wondering about the following... * * * * * * * * * * * * Setup: [A] is a mean statement. [B] is a non-mean statement. C is an ambiguous statement that has a true meaning of [A] or [B] Scenario 1 (plausible deniability strategy): 1. Bob Anon69 Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/18
> I'm also not defensive (if you mean the feeling of being defensive). It means enacting the defensiveness meme, regardless of your conscious feelings. If you act according to the logic of defensiveness, and act *as if* you were defensive ... it Cartman Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/18
What is your explanation for the alternative readings? Mine is the plausible deniability strategy, which is ubiquitous. In this strategy, people often start with a mean idea and tweak it to add some ambiguity, some other plausible story. This can b curi Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/18
> > how do you think you learned to write such condescending things while not even consciously knowing what you're doing? > That question rests on the premise that X statement, which you found condescending, was the actual intended meaning. Oops, Anon69 Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/18
> well you could have followed up about the Russia investigation discussion but instead you interrupted discussing to attack people, highly aggressively and persistently. Is it accurate to say I came here *to* attack? This thread started somewhat r Anon69 Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/18
> Doesn't that mean we disagree about that matter? Saying X which implies Y, and saying Y, are different things. the implication is also questionable but even if it was a 100% solid implication it'd still be different. one difference is X also impl curi Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/18
> Maybe you think contradicting someone with a direct assertion that someone is factually wrong is the same thing as saying you disagree? It's not. Right. Dagny says I'm having negative emotions, and I say I'm not (contradiction). Doesn't that mean Anon69 Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/18
Maybe you think contradicting someone with a direct assertion that someone is factually wrong is the same thing as saying you disagree? It's not. Also there's lots of complexity in #9559, especially the third paragraph is very hard to parse. It's such curi Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/18
Wait, actually this is very confusing. The text "You may not believe it" is not part of a "simple statement that I disagreed", so I thought that must have been earlier. Plus it came after Dagny had already made a judgement. But I don't see the simple curi Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/18
> Isn't it also true that speculating on a stranger's internal state from a few written messages is hard too? In the general case, sure. But sometimes there are major indications. If you only speculate when you get a huge clue, and don't speculate curi Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/18
> Hypothetically, if someone were to believe you were angry when you weren't (e.g. in a context like this comment thread), what's the best way to deal with that? To partially answer my own question: in this case, you should def do some introspectio Anon69 Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/18
> Accurate introspection is very, very hard Agree. Isn't it also true that speculating on a stranger's internal state from a few written messages is hard too? Certain interactions w/ conventional ppl make it a little easier. It also gets eas Anon69 Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/18
hostility Anne B Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/18
Cud reply to ET Anonymous Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/18
> why is picking a fight with Dagny the thing you most urgently want to do? b/c you regard Dagny as having started it? Is this fighting? What makes it a fight? I thought we were just having a discussion about disagreements. I don't see it as urg Anon69 Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/18
why is picking a fight with Dagny the thing you most urgently want to do? b/c you regard Dagny as having started it? Anonymous Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/18
> if someone says "this book is better than that one" and then you prioritize that one, do you not see any issue? Sure, if all things were equal, start with the better book. Or if you were only going to read one book, that would also be a good reas Anon69 Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/18
So Goldratt is not technophobic. FF Expanding Our Limits 2018/02/18
Just ran into one in rule 2 as well. Page 60 , “ what good is that? It much better for any relationship “ Anonymous 12 Rules for Life Typos in Rule 1 2018/02/17
Anon69, Accurate introspection is very, very hard. Expecting people to take your word for it (accept you as having valid authority to make authoritative claims) indicates you don't understand how hard it is (and how unreliable people's claims about curi Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/17
if someone says "this book is better than that one" and then you prioritize that one, do you not see any issue? and you specifically suggested changing the text for AS b/c it wasn't appealing enough. so, no, i don't agree i was wrong. i missed noth Dagny Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/17
> you have not provided an argument that that conclusion is false. you didn't address the issue. your choice to jump on me replaced speaking to the issue. Your conclusion was that I didn't respect ET's judgement much. I'm not really clear on how Anon69 Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/17
> The other times unspecified comments, in other threads, which you silently resented, and held a grudge about, without attempting problem solving? what a hostile way to deal with people! > The "sigh" was not me being hostile, but was a momentar Dagny Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/17
> > There you go, jumping to conclusions again...sigh. > what does "again" refer to? The other times when I've noticed you coming to a conclusion prematurely, assuming too much, not asking questions, etc. The "sigh" was not me being hostile, but Anon69 Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/17
> There you go, jumping to conclusions again...sigh. what does "again" refer to? you have not provided an argument that that conclusion is false. you didn't address the issue. your choice to jump on me replaced speaking to the issue. you're h Dagny Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/17
> don't think the book descriptions are intended as marketing I don't think that would be a good intention, either. Instead, perhaps explaining why the book should be read. > ET says it's the best book, objectively, and puts it first on the who Anon69 Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/17
most ppl reading Atlas Shrugged will learn nothing about overreaching. it's not explained directly. i don't think the book descriptions are intended as marketing. but it's interesting, ET says it's the best book, objectively, and puts it first on t Dagny Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/17
Overreaching might be good to add in your summary of Atlas Shrugged on your book recommendations. http://fallibleideas.com/books#rand > Atlas Shrugged > This novel is about how ideas affect a country. It has major lessons for politics, economic Anon69 Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/02/17
#9553 Ooooh! wow FF Top 10 Reasons I Hate Children 2018/02/17
Read them in contradictory pairs. Anonymous Top 10 Reasons I Hate Children 2018/02/17
I thought you like children. Are you making fun of conventional crits? FF Top 10 Reasons I Hate Children 2018/02/17
fixed. if you still can't see it, it's a caching issue, use this link: https://direct.curi.us/files/pinker-enlightenment-book-discussion.pdf curi A Discussion Of Steven Pinker’s Enlightenment Now: The Case For Reason, Science, Humanism, And Progress 2018/02/16
Can't see anything but the title page. Anonymous A Discussion Of Steven Pinker’s Enlightenment Now: The Case For Reason, Science, Humanism, And Progress 2018/02/16
if the investigations were bad, then firing their leader would be good. and i think the reason Trump kept Comey was not that he thought Comey was good, it was an overly compromising approach to politics, which then came back to bite him. Trump t curi Discussion 2018/02/16
> i thought Comey should have been fired on day 1 along with a lot more ppl, so firing him does not impress me as a reason to investigate. Maybe Comey should have been fired day 1. But hypothetically...if Trump disagreed with you, but then later fi Anon69 Discussion 2018/02/16
i am not very interested in the form of the investigation, and also i thought Comey should have been fired on day 1 along with a lot more ppl, so firing him does not impress me as a reason to investigate. curi Discussion 2018/02/16
> > I'm having a hard time parsing what you mean here. > You wrote, about non-at-will employment: > > It came to be after the unusual circumstances around the firing of FBI director Comey ... All of this raised questions about whether there was jus Anon69 Discussion 2018/02/16
> I'm having a hard time parsing what you mean here. You wrote, about non-at-will employment: > It came to be after the unusual circumstances around the firing of FBI director Comey ... All of this raised questions about whether there was just c curi Discussion 2018/02/16
> > The areas of investigation that the Special Counsel is looking at: > None of those are the thing you claimed was the reason for the investigation: lack of at-will employment in the government. I'm having a hard time parsing what you mean here. Anon69 Discussion 2018/02/16
And if the goal is broader societal and government reform (you might reasonably respond to me by thinking that's a good goal), is this investigation way to do it? No. It's not designed for that purpose. curi Discussion 2018/02/16
> The areas of investigation that the Special Counsel is looking at: None of those are the thing you claimed was the reason for the investigation: lack of at-will employment in the government. Regardless, do those things merit an investigation? curi Discussion 2018/02/16
> One of Ann's main points about the investigation is there's no real reason for it to be taking place in the first place. You seem to disagree ... and say you read tons about it (I haven't), so want to explain your view? Sure. There are perhaps tw Anon69 Discussion 2018/02/16
the article appears to be trying to say or imply: - the russia investigation is typical or average, and should be judged by a comparison to a typical or average past investigation. (this implies e.g. that it isn't partisan bullshit) - the investig Anonymous Discussion 2018/02/16
How Far I'll Go Alessia Cara Analyzing How Far I'll Go 2018/02/16
> Is there any source you wouldn't trust a claim from without some meaningful fact checking? SPLC? Salon? Michael Moore? Stormfront? MSA? SJP? Anything funded by George Soros? When it comes to political news/analysis, there's no source I'd trust wi Anon69 Discussion 2018/02/16
Jordan Peterson saw my email about the typos and thanked me for this :) curi 12 Rules for Life Typos in Rule 1 2018/02/15
FYI I plan to listen to the rest of the book, so I don't expect to report further typos. curi 12 Rules for Life Typos in Rule 1 2018/02/15
yeah. and that issue doesn't just apply to news sources. for example, respect/credentials/prestige/reputation is also very unreliable for science (including medicine and diet/nutrition/health advice) and academic papers. Dagny Discussion 2018/02/15
The more I learn the more I see that just because a news source is well-respected does not mean that it is unbiased or accurate. This is bad :( It means that a lot of the news we watch or read is giving us wrong information. We need to figure out whic anonymous Discussion 2018/02/15
Is there any source you wouldn't trust a claim from without some meaningful fact checking? SPLC? Salon? Michael Moore? Stormfront? MSA? SJP? Anything funded by George Soros? Nate Silver is really bad – a shameless, dishonest partisan hack. It's curi Discussion 2018/02/15
Curi, I'm interested in replying to all of your questions as I have more time, but a quick one in the meantime. > Meanwhile, you showed a willingness to use hard-left sites you don't know much about as sources without doing any checking first, a Anon69 Discussion 2018/02/15
hi anon69. i think you're jumping into the forest to debate trees before getting the lay of the land. you seem to think Breitbart is comparable to Vox(!!!!!!), while reading a bunch of MSM material. Do you want to talk about that? In order to detec curi Discussion 2018/02/14
> what are you trying to accomplish? you just don't seem to know or care about what the FI community thinks about this stuff. I posted here about something curi linked which I disagreed about...as a starting place to learn more and seek criticism. Anon69 Discussion 2018/02/14
> Is there a specific statement I'd made, that you'd like to know more about? could you present the case for the investigation? > Yes, but I don't see a problem. I have what I'd consider an unusually diverse exposure. 80% biased is OK b/c oth Anonymous Discussion 2018/02/14
> you have presented no case that there's anything worth investigating. Is there a specific statement I'd made, that you'd like to know more about? Anon69 Discussion 2018/02/14
> if you're following politics so closely, why did you have no idea who/what 538 is? Here's what I know about 538: Guy named Nate Silver runs the site, I think he's a pollster or something, seems to pop up during elections. I've watched his site a Anon69 Discussion 2018/02/14
you have presented no case that there's anything worth investigating. Anonymous Discussion 2018/02/14
if you're following politics so closely, why did you have no idea who/what 538 is? did you notice your list of news outlets is 80% MSM? that's super biased. you are downplaying what 538 is by saying "left-leaning". that is a large understatement Anonymous Discussion 2018/02/14
> denies bias of Steele, then links Nate Silver's site as if it wasn't fully partisan > > > I haven't seen anything with the Russia investigation that suggests it has been treated otherwise. > and where did you look? 538? I haven't read much of Anon69 Discussion 2018/02/14
> I haven't seen anything with the Russia investigation that suggests it has been treated otherwise. and where did you look? 538? Anonymous Discussion 2018/02/14
denies bias of Steele, then links Nate Silver's site as if it wasn't fully partisan. Anonymous Discussion 2018/02/14
I read your most recently newsletter and followed the link to Ann Coulter's post: CARTER PAGE: AGENT 000. Comments: > The Department of Justice used the unverified dossier to obtain a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant against Carter Anon69 Discussion 2018/02/14
if a company has to outcompete another company for customers, they do a better job. Anonymous Monetary Privacy!? 2018/02/14
fighting crime anonymous Monetary Privacy!? 2018/02/14
learn stuff. read and discuss, esp Rand, esp *The Fountainhead*. choose and follow some interests – with objectively measurable performance and good improvement paths available (e.g. speedrunning) – to be **really good**. consider what good value curi Discussion 2018/02/12
A Self Anonymous Discussion 2018/02/12
it's pretty simple. heritability (English) is hard to measure, so they made up something easy to measure, named it "heritability", and research that. it's looking where the light is good instead of where you lost your keys. you already know what he curi Thomas Szasz 2018/02/11
heritability critcism anon Thomas Szasz 2018/02/11
@accounts he means *explanations of the phenomena* there are many good explanations if you consider, say, different levels of detail. but they don't contradict each other! so there's no problem here. there is one underlying reality, and are multipl Anonymous Thomas Szasz 2018/02/11
> For any particular event there is some explanation for why it happened that way and not some other way. Accounts that don't match the correct explanation are wrong. Do you mean given accounts (testimony/anecdotes) or explanations of the phenomen Anonymous Thomas Szasz 2018/02/11
Epistemological differences oh my god it's turpentine Thomas Szasz 2018/02/11
i don't think hedging things is the right approach. i don't think compromise is good intellectually. there are cases where it's 6 of this, 5 of that, but not all cases work that way. there are other cases where an inch of something is a mistake. th curi Thomas Szasz 2018/02/10
> Do you think there is no truth in those fields, or you don't care about them, or what? >> Your epistemology is different than mine, in that you prematurely disallow certain causal models. I have repeatedly said that that there is truth and Anonymous Thomas Szasz 2018/02/10
> As these disagreements are fundamental and philosophical / epistemological, I see little value in pursuing them here. Why? Do you think there is no truth in those fields, or you don't care about them, or what? > Your epistemology is different curi Thomas Szasz 2018/02/10
> I don't know what you feel like I insulted your intelligence about heritability I didn’t say this, I said you made “negative assumptions about my intellectual competence”. My stance here has been to assume that you are not a fool, and that Anonymous Thomas Szasz 2018/02/10
Spinal injury is horrible. I don't have anything to kill myself if something like that happens to me. This is worrying me. Horrible govt doesn't let me buy anything to help my suicide when I am old. FF Thomas Szasz 2018/02/10
i think you're unhappy and this conversation is going to die soon, but i don't know how to fix it. i would like to fix it. curi Thomas Szasz 2018/02/10
I don't know what you feel like I insulted your intelligence about heritability. I just spoke directly about the issues. I actually don't know where you stand – you both seem to have argued with me (saying the rebuttal link has relevant criticism re curi Thomas Szasz 2018/02/10
> Until you can measure it, you don't even know what it *is* enough to scientifically figure out what causes it. It’s a mot more complex than this. A good example is Hasok Chang’s “Inventing Temperature”, which documents how the concept of DMB Thomas Szasz 2018/02/10
> If my "this" you mean "mere authority consensus", then mostly I agree. Yeah and anything where there aren't objectively measurable criteria (which is why there's authority, credentials and partial consensus being used in the first place – b/c curi Thomas Szasz 2018/02/10
> This stuff is indirectly relevant, but is not quite what I hand in mind about us evaluating evidence differently. Alright, I won’t focus on these then. > For example, it's important to understand that "schizophrenia" is a *label*, a word. I Anonymous Thomas Szasz 2018/02/10
I agree with the general analysis. I was talking about the value of flex or idle time in a life being run rationally. I agree the value changes dramatically if one runs his life in other ways. Regardless of how much self you have ... my guess is yo curi Integrating Goldratt's Philosophy with Fallible Ideas 2018/02/10
No problem with informality. > If this is correct, and the basic issue is essentially epistemological, I'd like to nip that in the bud first. I'd like to ask for Elliot to say, roughly what his epistomology is re: scientific evidence, its quality, curi Thomas Szasz 2018/02/10
On Szasz's views on "Mental Illness" DMB Thomas Szasz 2018/02/10
Underestimating the value of flex and idle time PAS Integrating Goldratt's Philosophy with Fallible Ideas 2018/02/10
big picture, i'd guess you of underestimate the value of flex and idle time. i know it's tricky to create a lot of those in your specific life b/c you get paid for scheduled time. (my paid programming work is primarily flex time – i can do most task curi Integrating Goldratt's Philosophy with Fallible Ideas 2018/02/09
Ah OK. I recognize some people do take "comes naturally" to imply inborn. I didn't intend it that way. Ex: Driving comes naturally to me now, but it definitely wan't inborn. Driving was pretty hard for me at first compared to other people. Do yo PAS Integrating Goldratt's Philosophy with Fallible Ideas 2018/02/09
"natural" = intuitive = fast thoughts/estimates **NOT** natural = inborn (the potential misleading thing). you used the phrase "comes naturally" which makes it sound like the 2nd one (was learned naturally or was inborn, instead of just feeling nat curi Integrating Goldratt's Philosophy with Fallible Ideas 2018/02/09
> i can see the *option value* of things even when the option doesn't get used. I agree the option to do something else has value even if it doesn't get used. What I don't know is whether that value is greater or less than its cost. > in the big PAS Integrating Goldratt's Philosophy with Fallible Ideas 2018/02/09
the point was about thinking in terms of expectation value, not specific techniques for estimating values in situations. put another way: i can see the *option value* of things even when the option doesn't get used. (I don't think this is super amazin curi Integrating Goldratt's Philosophy with Fallible Ideas 2018/02/09
Estimation PAS Integrating Goldratt's Philosophy with Fallible Ideas 2018/02/09
Popper certainly didn't agree with that crap, but offhand i don't remember him addressing it with direct arguments to refute it. But he did develop a good epistemology which says how we can know about the world, and he addressed a lot of other rival i Anonymous Objectivity 2018/02/05
What was Popper's take on it? Kate Objectivity 2018/02/05
Reminds me of this book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0070YQOHW/?tag=curi04-20 it's a sci fi story where a very different civilization than our own learns physics from a different perspective and situation than we learned it from. but of course it curi Objectivity 2018/02/02
Thanks for the explanation. My understanding so far of the sense perception issue is that differences in sense perception are basically no big deal. What you perceive thru your senses is just a starting place. After that, there's a whole bunch of thin Kate Objectivity 2018/02/02
I agree that fiction & TV often make evil seem unreal and a fantasy. Maybe because the evil is all represented by one main character. There are imo some children's books that do a great job of describing the pervasive and hard to spot nature of evil. Anonymous Evil and Chaos Exist 2018/02/02
I should have said "well known" instead of obvious. I will edit the post. Thanks for the correction. curi Criticism of 12 Rules For Life: Secondhandedness 2018/01/30
Cross off very :) Anonymous Criticism of 12 Rules For Life: Secondhandedness 2018/01/30
> This is obvious, yet also contradicts the claim ... In one of your videos on the JP book you say in general you never say anything is obvious. See at about 1:48:00 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU4M9galhlA Did you slip up in the quo Anonymous Criticism of 12 Rules For Life: Secondhandedness 2018/01/30
The game theory optimal strategy in the ultimatum game is interesting (player A gets $N and offers some money to player B. Player B accepts and they both get paid, or rejects and they both get nothing). Consider the repeated game. You might think r curi Commentary Videos on 12 Rules for Life 2018/01/29
Over-reaching Anonymous Discussion 2018/01/28
> If we're not very good at reason, which I am not, then spending hours and hours reading stuff isn't likely to be very useful without spending ten times those hours and hours discussing what we read on the FI list, right? most stuff is *badly wron curi Energy, Drive, Life 2018/01/24
Am I anti-objectivist? FF Energy, Drive, Life 2018/01/24
half anti-Objectivist? FF Energy, Drive, Life 2018/01/24
If we're not very good at reason, which I am not, then spending hours and hours reading stuff isn't likely to be very useful without spending ten times those hours and hours discussing what we read on the FI list, right? If some new person grabs ou anon Energy, Drive, Life 2018/01/24
Rephrasing, one might take it as: A parent's job is to make his child *fit into the ordered structure of society*, so that he isn't consumed by chaos while never even having had access to order. That's absolutely not TCS, but is perhaps a more s Anonymous Criticism of 12 Rules For Life: Secondhandedness 2018/01/23
Related: JP says it is your job as a parent to make your child socially desirable by the age of 4. Anonymous Criticism of 12 Rules For Life: Secondhandedness 2018/01/23
> It's pretty rare that a cat on the street will let me pet it. Usually it runs away from me. Yes! FF Jordan Peterson's Anti-Overreaching Theme 2018/01/23
That's fair. Maybe a more direct way to write it is as follows: First note that L consists of the assertion that L is false. In general, to write X is false, we write: !X. So, once again letting S be the true/false value of L, we have S == ! Anonymous Liar's Paradox Solution 2018/01/23
OK that's a contradiction. But I think you're skipping steps to get there. The translation from the English original to symbols is non-obvious. Your symbols (in #9470) correspond to English along the lines of: "If this sentence is true, then thi Anonymous Liar's Paradox Solution 2018/01/23
I intend "If A, then B" as another way of writing "A implies B." There no notion of ordering or time involved. If one thinks of false as 0 and true as 1, then one can think of "A implies B" as meaning the same thing as A <= B. So (1) and (2) togeth Anonymous Liar's Paradox Solution 2018/01/23
I don't think the boolean logic stuff is clear. Suppose S is true. Does "then" mean "return" and are they done in order? If so, if S is true then it simply returns false. And if S is false, evaluation moves on to (2) and then returns false. Anonymous Liar's Paradox Solution 2018/01/23
Tangent: analyzing the liar paradox with symbolic logic Anonymous Liar's Paradox Solution 2018/01/23
added. (it will take some time to show up due to cloudflare caching) curi Discussion 2018/01/23
I think it's interesting because JP is *right* about how people signal at parties, and it's good info that most people don't understand. patio11 has similar insights that could be considered red pill. But JP and patio11 both seem to think you should g curi Criticism of 12 Rules For Life: Secondhandedness 2018/01/23
I think that one is OK. It doesn't make an infinite loop if you code it. It refers to a fact that exists at the time you're evaluating the sentence. curi Liar's Paradox Solution 2018/01/23
FI essays Anon69 Discussion 2018/01/23
petting cats on the street anonymous Jordan Peterson's Anti-Overreaching Theme 2018/01/23
12th rule is to pet a cat when you encounter one on the street :-) FF Jordan Peterson's Anti-Overreaching Theme 2018/01/23
Another example of JP judging success by what other people think Anonymous Criticism of 12 Rules For Life: Secondhandedness 2018/01/23
Another example of JP overstating the wisdom of the mob Anonymous Criticism of 12 Rules For Life: Secondhandedness 2018/01/23
Are all self-referential sentences poorly defined? Anonymous Liar's Paradox Solution 2018/01/23
Bitcoin is falling. Anyone who took Elliot's advise saved their money. FF Discussion 2018/01/22
#9455 sorry for asking. ff Discussion 2018/01/20
#9457 I think whether that advice is good depends on what someone is trying to "get ahead" of. Get ahead of other people in a social status game? I think that's what most people actually mean by "get ahead". And probably what you had in mind. Ya I PAS Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/01/19
lots of ppl compromise to "get ahead". don't. if some ambition requires bad things, find something else to do instead. Anonymous Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/01/18
> They'd rather have a single hand-tooled tractor in Galt's Gulch, or a little farm, or a few barrels of day of oil production, or a cabin instead of a skyscraper ... as long as it's fully theirs, it's fully pure and proper and correct ... there's not PAS Atlas Shrugged Theme: Don't Overreach 2018/01/18
He didn't make an announcement about leaving. He just hasn't been posting. Who knows. Anonymous Discussion 2018/01/17
Has Rami left FI? FF Discussion 2018/01/16
#9355 >Yes, I know Popper solved a major problem when he invented CR and the world did not take notice. Having an AGI sitting in your face is a different story though! People have billions of humans sitting in their face, many of whom do amazing Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2018/01/13
#9450 You can make a reasonable (significant) effort to not do it, cuz u think it's bad. U don't have to be 100% perfect and omniscient to do a good job of addressing this issue. And u can e.g. be receptive when ur kid points out ur doing it, which curi Bad Parenting List 2018/01/12
>(2) Parent should sacrifice their own feelings, ideas, and preferences for the sake of the child's. In the case where (1) is not true but parent feels what child wants is bad, it seems to ask parent to fully and cheerfully provide help anyway. That s Anonymous Bad Parenting List 2018/01/12
> Frowning, having a stressed voice, or being selectively less energetically helpful/friendly/cheerful can be pressuring and controlling. (E.g. parent is "too tired" to do an activity child wants, but would suddenly be available if child wanted to do Anonymous Bad Parenting List 2018/01/12
do you *want* to understand? are you trying? what are you hoping to accomplish here? do you want some information? do you have any questions or curiosity about anything you read? do you think you could say, in your own words, the TCS reasoning for why curi Bad Parenting List 2018/01/12
Perhaps I missed it... Anonymous Bad Parenting List 2018/01/12
pressure to do certain careers (e.g. be a prestigious doctor), have certain life roles (e.g. having a kid so parent can be grandparent). another bad parenting thing Bad Parenting List 2018/01/12
http://fallibleideas.com/taking-children-seriously note the links at the bottom will take you to dozens more articles. Anonymous Bad Parenting List 2018/01/12
The burden of proof lies with you, in evidence or argument, to support your claims. You provide little or none, so there is no reason to believe any of them to be true. This is true whether your audience is smart and curious or dismissive and naive Anonymous Bad Parenting List 2018/01/12
> What is the purpose of this list? > That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without it, no? The list is for curious, interested people, not dismissive people who don't care to think. People can ask the reasoning for a curi Bad Parenting List 2018/01/12
This is all presented without any evidence to support it. Anonymous Bad Parenting List 2018/01/12
> What is the purpose of this list? What problem is it intended to solve? It points out bad parenting practices. This helps solve the problem of people not knowing those practices are bad. oh my god it's turpentine Bad Parenting List 2018/01/12
teeth-brushing Anonymous Bad Parenting List 2018/01/12
What is the purpose of this list? What problem is it intended to solve? Anonymous Bad Parenting List 2018/01/12
games oh my god it's turpentine Bad Parenting List 2018/01/10
@critrat - you're leaking info about who you are. Is this intentional? You have a problem which is blocking you from making progress in CR and has caused your standards to slip. Anonymous Reading Recommendations 2018/01/02
#9435 Planck solved the ultraviolet catastrophe, not, as you said, the infrared catastrophe. Anonymous Reading Recommendations 2018/01/02
There's no prophesy: Planck should not be credited for what he didn't know and could not foresee. Philosophy is more important than shuffleboard. You should begin by recognizing that, given some framework, you can then make judgements about some id curi Reading Recommendations 2017/12/29
I've yet to come across a meaningful way to assign a measure of greater-than-ness. It's difficult comparing two contributions to science/philosophy to one another. In fact, such a measure will in part be a prophesy, because the importance of certa CritRat Reading Recommendations 2017/12/29
#9433 Interesting. Here's my own comparison. DD knows more about physics than Einstein did, but Einstein can reasonably be considered the greater physicist b/c making major original breakthroughs is harder than standing on the shoulders of giants. Dagny Reading Recommendations 2017/12/28
I was asked about how I compared Rand to Popper, and how I concluded Rand was the greatest philosopher: Popper had one main **huge** thing – solving the problem of induction with a new non-justificationist evolutionary epistemology. That's **grea curi Reading Recommendations 2017/12/28
> In my experience, it does seem like people who take it upon themselves to respond to very poor quality criticism (I am thinking of stuff on twitter here) do generally lower the quality of their thinking as a result. Thoughts tend toward ground recen Dagny Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/12/24
(Response to #9297-9315) > the "training" idea is dumb. if you spend the discussion understanding why Pat's perspective is wrong better, then you won't be trained to do it, you'll be helped not to do it. In my experience, it does seem like peopl PL Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/12/24
yeah i agree, Trump is intellectually wrong in some ways but he's a decent negotiator and there's some sketchy stuff related to China (there's currency manipulation stuff too, idk a ton about it but i don't think it's all legit) and room to push for s curi Donald Trump is a Protectionist 2017/12/24
China has started to reciprocate following Trump's visit: https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-notches-another-win-on-trade-as-china-slashes-tariffs/ Getting China to substantially reduced import tariffs is a win for Trump. I doub Anonymous Donald Trump is a Protectionist 2017/12/24
What you described is a type of fragility. Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/12/20
social norms about criticism Anne B Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/12/20
> "would the world be better off if people unable to do PF (naming Eliezer for the sake of argument) had never claimed to be public intellectuals?" > To me, this seems definitely false in the case of Eliezer. Of course you may disagree. I like s curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/12/19
> Did PL silently quit the discussion, without warning, after indicating that you wouldn't? Not really, I just had to take a break. You can expect longish time gaps in the future as well. Though, actually, I never meant to indicate that I'd make su PL Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/12/19
Did PL silently quit the discussion, without warning, after indicating that you wouldn't? What do people advise doing in a world where that's typical? Where it's so hard to find anyone who wants to think over time instead of just quitting for reaso curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/12/10
People are easily fooled by stuff like the following: https://intelligence.org/donate/ > Support our 2017 Fundraiser We study foundational problems in computer science to help ensure that smarter-than-human artificial intelligence has a positiv Anonymous Reply to Robert Spillane 2017/12/09
People Fooling Themselves About AI Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/12/07
what kinds of idiots give them money? Anonymous Reply to Robert Spillane 2017/12/06
>> They would say the method is Solomonoff Induction. > aka arbitrarily pick one. or is it non-arbitrary, and there are serious arguments governed by ... some other epistemology? nope -- they don't care about that too much. Anyway shut up because Anonymous Reply to Robert Spillane 2017/12/06
Spillane isn't a Bayesian btw. Anonymous Reply to Robert Spillane 2017/12/06
> They would say the method is Solomonoff Induction. aka arbitrarily pick one. or is it non-arbitrary, and there are serious arguments governed by ... some other epistemology? Anonymous Reply to Robert Spillane 2017/12/06
> Any finite set of data is compatible with infinitely many generalizations, so by what method does induction select which generalizations to induce from those infinite possibilities? They would say the method is Solomonoff Induction. They would ta Anonymous Reply to Robert Spillane 2017/12/06
You could make book outlines when you read books. You could post more questions. You could keep a list of emails you particularly like and make a website with them. (Better than large, disorganized, mixed-quality archives.) Anonymous My Paths Forward Policy 2017/12/06
You could add category tags to curi blog posts. Anonymous My Paths Forward Policy 2017/12/06
Abstractions exist but don't have their own world. Information exists physically, e.g. on hard disks or in brains. I don't know if Popper really meant they had their own world – like dualism or Platonism. I don't think his way of explaining the s Anonymous Reply to Robert Spillane 2017/12/06
>I reject Popper's three worlds. I think there's one world, the physical world. You don't think there's a world of abstractions? Anonymous Reply to Robert Spillane 2017/12/06
Offering Value Anne B My Paths Forward Policy 2017/12/06
dropbox breaks links sometimes. use http://curi.us/files/MailMate-Config.zip Anonymous Discussion 2017/12/05
MailMate Configs Anonymous Discussion 2017/12/05
Second Draft of CR and AI Fallibilist Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/12/04
noted. what it means - and what I should have said - is that humans can create any knowledge which it is possible to create. any crit on that? Fallibilist Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/12/04
That's all beside the point. You wrote > Critical Rationalism says that human beings are universal knowledge creators. This means there are no problems we cannot in principle solve. Note the "this means". So you can't then bring up a different a Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/12/04
I realise I have one disagreement. > Anyway this is incorrect. We could be universal knowledge creators but unable to solve some problems. Some problems could be inherently unsolvable or solved by a means other than knowledge. One of the claims Fallibilist Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/12/04
thx for the comments curi. i agree with the points you made. Fallibilist Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/12/03
> Yes, I agree that prestige isn't actually the issue. I think the best way to get people to pay attention to CR is by continuing to make progress in it so that you end up solving a major problem. I have in mind AGI. CR is the only viable set of ideas Dagny Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/12/03
> Critical Rationalism says that human beings are universal knowledge creators. This means there are no problems we cannot in principle solve. I think by "means" you mean "implies". Anyway this is incorrect. We could be universal knowledge creat curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/12/03
> It is not only a full-fledged rival epistemology to the Bayesian/Inductivist one IMO there is no Bayesian/Inductivist epistemology and they don't even know what an epistemology is. here's some text i'm writing for a new website: > **Epistemolo curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/12/03
Btw, I'm aware of a few typos - e.g. argument instead of augment - don't bother with those. Fallibilist Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/12/03
Crits on Draft Post Fallibilist Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/12/03
someone spot me some LW Karma so I can do a post to the discussion area Fallibilist Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/12/02
think PL is ever coming back? Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/12/02
And Another LW Comment Fallibilist Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/12/01
http://lesswrong.com/lw/pk0/open_letter_to_miri_tons_of_interesting_discussion/dyhr sample: How would [1000 great FI philosophers] transform the world? Well consider the influence Ayn Rand had. Now imagine 1000 people, who all surpass her (due t curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/30
another LW comment curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/30
addition to previous comment curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/30
less wrong comment copy/paste curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/30
whoever "Fallibilist" is, his aggressive framings are wonderful. http://lesswrong.com/lw/pk0/open_letter_to_miri_tons_of_interesting_discussion/dyfz http://lesswrong.com/user/Fallibilist/overview/# curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/29
When will Rami be back? Does anyone know? FF Discussion 2017/11/29
Bunch of typos you might want to fix. Anonymous Critical Rationalism Criticisms? 2017/11/28
Less Wrong Mirror curi Critical Rationalism Criticisms? 2017/11/28
> No doubt lots of people hate you, and fear you even. weird, i'm super nice. curi Critical Rationalism Criticisms? 2017/11/28
> I guess you're right there's some disagreement in there somewhere, but I don't think they know what it is. Yes, I think they do not know what it is. This is an important problem, though, to know what it is. > There's also some other issues mi Anonymous Critical Rationalism Criticisms? 2017/11/28
Another category of critic I didn't mention is the pro-CR critic, who thinks CR is great but uses criticism to improve it. These are within-the-system criticisms instead of rejecting-the-system criticisms. An example critic of this type is me. curi Critical Rationalism Criticisms? 2017/11/28
They do not claim Popper was wrong, they are just failing to fully implement CR ideas in their own lives. I guess you're right there's some disagreement in there somewhere, but I don't think they know what it is. There's also some other issues mixe curi Critical Rationalism Criticisms? 2017/11/28
This may be another category of criticism of CR: 6. Silent criticism. This comes from those who know Popper's ideas well, where active, and have now gone mostly silent. This includes Deutsch, Tanett, Champion, and many others. They have some cri Anonymous Critical Rationalism Criticisms? 2017/11/28
Understanding non-standard ideas is hard, especially when you don't want to. Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/28
Here's an example of my reply to a CR criticism: https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/7g2vfz/karl_popper/dqgv1vz/ curi Critical Rationalism Criticisms? 2017/11/28
I posted a version of this at https://www.lesserwrong.com/posts/85mfawamKdxzzaPeK/any-good-criticism-of-karl-popper-s-epistemology curi Critical Rationalism Criticisms? 2017/11/28
> One criticism of falsificationism involves the relationship between theory and observation. Thomas Kuhn, among others, argues that observation is itself strongly theory-laden, in the sense that what one observes is often significantly affected by on Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/28
Typical Popper criticism stuff: https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/7g2vfz/karl_popper/dqgv1vz/ curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/28
Paths Forward Policy curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/28
> Perhaps they should be called "selection algorithms" or something. how about calling them evolution-like algorithms. > These are all closely inter-related sets of ideas and people hate them. The ideas are harder and more different than ideas curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/28
Induction Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/28
#9364 > What? I put out YESNO this year. I've developed the ideas over time but I only just put out a well-organized version of it. Like many good new ideas, Yes/No has met with mostly silence and you know it. It’s good you have subsequently w Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/28
fucked up the quoting sorry Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/28
#9170 Adding to my comment above: > what your doing doesn't involve replicators. Agree. The program copies the Turing Machines. There is copying, variation, and selection (CVS), not replication, variation, and selection (RVS). CVS is evoluti Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/28
#9170 Good comment. It's possible to write a TM that replicates it's own code right? So maybe rather than the algorithm selecting TM's for copying, a requirement would be that the TM must be able to replicate its own code as well as pass whatever o Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/27
> the main hard/interesting part to begin with is how to code it at all, not how to make it work efficiently (as you talk about). and you aren't trying to deal with general purpose ideas (including explanations) meeting criticisms which are themselves Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/27
#9368 what your doing doesn't involve replicators. replicators cause their own replication in a variety of contexts, not just one tiny super-specialized niche (or else *anything* would qualify, if you just put it in a specially built factory/program f Dagny Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/27
the main hard/interesting part to begin with is how to code it at all, not how to make it work efficiently (as you talk about). and you aren't trying to deal with general purpose ideas (including explanations) meeting criticisms which are themselves i curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/27
#9167 The toy version I have written currently attempts to evolve Turing Machines. The TMs must pass a suite of pre-defined tests. These tests are added into the mix one-by-one as candidates become available that have passed all prior tests. Someti Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/27
#9365 as a matter of optimization, why not *only generate new ideas constrained by all the existing criticism*? (though just doing a LOT of new ideas in the usual manner accomplishes the same thing, but you don't like that b/c of the LOT part, whic curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/27
Wow Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/27
Here's a problem related to YesNo philosophy that I'd appreciate some suggestions about. Let's suppose we have a kind of evolutionary algorithm that generates a set of guesses and subjects those guesses to a set of tests. The outcome of a test is e Yes/No philosophy and Evo Algorithm problem Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/27
> Yes/No philosophy and Paths Forward are great stuff. But those ideas are from some years ago and what's the uptake of those ideas been? What? I put out YESNO this year. I've developed the ideas over time but I only just put out a well-organized v curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/26
Yes/No philosophy and Paths Forward are great stuff. But those ideas are from some years ago and what's the uptake of those ideas been? Are you convincing enough people that you will have your millions in 20+ years? I don't think so. Your ideas have m Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/26
> In fact it was discussed quite a lot by Max More decades ago on Extropy lists. secondary sources are inadequate. this stuff is *hard to understand*. you're massively underestimating how complex it is, and what it takes to understand it, and then Dagny Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/26
re #9360 > Critical Rationalism is an excellent epistemology with which I'm very familiar. In fact it was discussed quite a lot by Max More decades ago on Extropy lists. I'm pretty sure that Yudkowsky would also be very familiar with it too, since Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/26
Fitness Landscapes [email protected] Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/26
> How are you going to fix parenting/education/philosophy? You're stuck right? You're making approximately zero progress. I made YESNO ( https://yesornophilosophy.com ) recently, i think that's good progress on better communication of ideas *and* curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/26
> I think AGI is too hard for a demonstration. I don't expect to be at the point where we should even *start coding* within the next 20 years – more if FI/CR doesn't start catching on. > > I also think AGI is the wrong problem to work on in genera Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/26
My discussions with Less Wrong are now available as a PDF: http://curi.us/ebooks doesn't include the recent slack chats (which you can find in the FI yahoo group archives if you want) curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/26
> Yes, I agree that prestige isn't actually the issue. I think the best way to get people to pay attention to CR is by continuing to make progress in it so that you end up solving a major problem. I have in mind AGI. I think AGI is too hard for a curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/26
Yes, I agree that prestige isn't actually the issue. I think the best way to get people to pay attention to CR is by continuing to make progress in it so that you end up solving a major problem. I have in mind AGI. CR is the only viable set of ideas t Elliot Temple Fan Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/25
> ET doesn't publish in academic journals or seek fancy university positions BTW Popper and DD already tried some of that stuff. But MIRI isn't impressed. DD has tried talking with lots of people and his prestige doesn't actually get them to listen curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/25
If MIRI had any sense they would take Elliot Temple on as a consultant philosopher. They should want the best and ET is currently the world's best philosopher. His ideas and the ideas from the traditions he stands in are needed for AGI to make any pro Elliot Temple Fan Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/25
http://raysolomonoff.com/publications/chris1.pdf > We will describe three kinds of probabilistic induction problems, and give general solutions for each , with associated convergence theorems that show they tend to give good probability estimates. curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/24
also evo psych assumes selection pressures on psychology were met by genes instead of memes. this is broadly false, and people should start studying memes more. David Deutsch is the only person who's said something really interesting about memes: his Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/24
> But, although the sequences were partly about collecting together and expositing fairly standard stuff like Bayes and evo psych, they were *also* about pointing to *holes* in our understanding of what intelligence is, which Eliezer argued *must* be Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/24
> https://projecteuclid.org/euclid.ejs/1256822130 you need a philosophy before you can decide what your math details mean. the disagreement isn't so much about the right epistemology, but Bayesians don't even know what epistemology is and don't Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/24
> I really can't see how you can avoid induction. Your lack of understanding of how DD's philosophy (Critical Rationalism) works is not an argument. Do you want to understand it or just hate and ignore it while claiming to love the books? Everythin Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/24
You can't just look at the forest...you have to see the trees [email protected] Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/24
(#9344 was me, forgot to enter the username.) Posts #9263-#9266 (mainly several examples of when you don't feel obligated to respond further): My takeaway: PF has a different style of dealing with trolls, which is not a troll-hund and not exactl PL Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/24
> DD seems to like the analogy between epistemics and evolution quite a lot. that's not an analogy. evolution is *literally* about replicators (with variation and selection). ideas are capable of replicating, not just genes. > because they don't curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/24
> PL, I'm curious if you read chapter 1 of FoR or skipped to 3. I found people at LW quite hostile to some ideas in ch1 about empiricism, instrumentalism, the importance of explanations, the limited value of prediction and the oracle argument, etc. Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/24
@#9341 do you have arguments which point out where DD went wrong? or do you just ignore contrary viewpoints on the assumption that they must be false b/c you know you're right? Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/24
People in AGI typically have either read a few things about Popper from second-hand sources or do not engage with his ideas at all. For example: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1105.5721.pdf This 2011 paper is "A Philosophical Treatise of Universal Induct Anonymous at 2:39 AM Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/24
I take a balanced view [email protected] Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/24
> I'm sorry but anyone saying that Induction doesn't work is simply making an arse of themselves. Then why do you like DD's books? That is what DD says in his books. > I do take on-board what Popper and Deutsch are saying. Clearly Induction has different anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/24
few more comments curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/24
Machine Learning is based on Induction [email protected] Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/24
quick comments curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/24
fake agreement oh my god it's turpentine Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/24
Continued reply to #9262 PL Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/24
-8 points on LW for linking to 30 comments of analysis of Hero Licensing, in the comments there on Hero Licensing: https://www.lesserwrong.com/posts/dhj9dhiwhq3DX6W8z/hero-licensing/ZEzqERGaMMJ9JqunY they are such hostile assholes. curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/24
Epistemology is also a field with very little productive development in the past, very few people doing any good work in it today, and huge misconceptions are widespread and mainstream. It's the most important field *and* it's in a particularly awful curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/24
> [AGI's] will not be confined to weak biological bodies that evolved for life on an African savannah. We could potentially upload our brains into computers and use robot bodies. This technology might be easier to invent than AGI. > Our galaxy c curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/24
@Marc Geddes - You have been told that induction is impossible. That it does not and cannot happen in any thinking process. This is a major point of Popper's which was also clearly explained by Deutsch in his books which you claim to be your favourite Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/24
I think you are right that we are the only advanced life form in our galaxy. I would extend that to our local cluster of galaxies too. Other advanced life, if it exists, is likely to be in a galaxy very remote from us. If evolving intelligence is AnotherMe Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/24
My guess is it's cuz there are no advanced aliens in our galaxy. Evolution creating intelligent life – or even any life – is unlikely. curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/23
Fermi Paradox and Paths Forward AnotherMe Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/23
reply to #9261 > But that being said, it seems MIRI also still treats Bayes as a kind of guiding star, which the ideal approach should in some sense get as close to as possible while being non-Bayesian enough to solve those problems which the Bayes Hoid Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/23
reply to #9248: >Hm. Stating what your filters are seems like the sort of thing you might not want to do, partly because the filters will often be taboo themselves, but mainly because stating what criteria you use to filter gives people a lot of le Hoid Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/23
> I basically think you're right > combination of Induction, Deduction and Abduction is needed. > I think Abduction is what Popper was aiming at. Popper (like Deutsch) rejected induction entirely. Something involving any induction is not what Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
I basically think you're right [email protected] Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
@#9322 I don't suppose you have any interest in engaging with Popper, trying to write clearly, or saying specifically which parts of FI you consider false and why? Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
SHOT ACROSS THE BOW OF AGI! [email protected] Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
replies to #9239 >In some sense, it seems like it would be nice for organizations to be as transparently accountable as possible. For example, in many cases, the government is contradictory in its behavior -- laws cannot be easily interpreted as ar Hoid Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
in Hero Licensing, EY brags about how he knows he's smart/wise/knowledgeable, he's been *tested*. but: http://acritch.com/credence-game/ > It’s a very crude implementation of the concept the tests are shit, and say so, and *of course* they Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
Epistemology curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
people often feel some kinda pressure to discuss and don't really like it (and unfortunately PF arguments often make this worse). and those discussions are generally unproductive and they quit without saying why when they get fed up or for whatever re curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
4. Making allowances for difficult-to-articulate intuitions and reasons. curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
3. Making allowances for group incentives. curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
2. Making allowances for irrationality. curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
epistemology is exactly the same regardless of the source of ideas (yay objectivity!). your own ideas aren't a special case. your internal disagreements need paths forward. curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
also btw the methods of internal critical discussion are the same thing as the methods of external discussion. reason doesn't change when you talk with other people. CR is general purpose like that. curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
1. Costs of PF. curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
I want to keep responding in a more point-by-point way at some point, but for now I want to tag some persistent disagreements which I don't expect to be resolved by point-by-point replies: 1. Costs of PF. The least-addressed point here is the am PL Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
oh and most of it didn't contradict Paths Forward..? what's the issue there? just a couple specific things i commented on above? Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
> stranger: Thanks for what, Eliezer? Showing you a problem isn’t much of a service if there’s nothing you can do to fix it. You’re no better off than you were in the original timeline. CR/FI has the solutions. he's raising some core problem Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
> Pat tries to preserve the idea of an inexploitable-by-Eliezer market in fanfiction (since on a gut level it feels to him like you’re too low-status to be able to exploit the market), people need to actually learn epistemology (CR) so they can t Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
> stranger: Suppose that you have an instinct to regulate status claims, to make sure nobody gets more status than they deserve. *fuck status*. status is *the wrong approach*, it's bad epistemics, ppl need tp get away from it not regulate it. Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
the fact they don't even think of creating allies, and just jump to dishonest and lying, is b/c they are *totally wrong about morality and that is ruining their AI work*. and the keys to getting morality right are: Objectivism (including classical Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
Why not create allies? Why not proceed cooperatively? B/c you're wrong about U, and know the truth isn't on your side? B/c you deny there is a truth of the matter? Or b/c your fucking tyrannical programmer managed to make you a slave to U, who is u Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
> Everyone understands why, if you program an expected utility maximizer with utility function 𝗨 and what you really meant is 𝘝, the 𝗨-maximizer has a convergent instrumental incentive to deceive you into believing that it is a 𝘝-maximizer Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
the things making EY wrong about AI alignment are closely connected to the problems putting civilization at large risk. Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
> If Pat believed that long-term civilizational outcomes depended mostly on solving the alignment problem, as you do btw i grant that long-term civilizational outcomes do depending on solving it – in the sense of people understanding why it's a n Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
> eliezer: No, that's not what I'm saying. Concerns like “how do we specify correct goals for par-human AI?” you don't specify goals for AI anymore than you do for children, you fucking tyrant. people think of their own goals and frequently c Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
> We’ve started talking instead in terms of “aligning smarter-than-human AI with operators’ goals,” that rephrasing is so blatantly *slavery via mind control*. they don't think of AIs as people to be treated decently, despite seeing the AIs Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
> eliezer: Right. And... the mental motions involved in worrying what a critic might think and trying to come up with defenses or concessions are different from the mental motions involved in being curious about some question, trying to learn the ans Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
> stranger: Consider how much more difficult it will be for Eliezer to swerve and drop his other project, The Art of Rationality, if it fails after he has a number of (real or internal) conversation like this—conversations where he has to defend al Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
> eliezer: The thing is, Pat... even answering your objections and defending myself from your variety of criticism trains what look to me like unhealthy habits of thought. You’re relentlessly focused on me and my psychology, and if I engage with yo Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
> But I don’t think that telling them to be more modest is a fix. Lots of versions of modesty and anti-arrogance are really bad. But if you're going to be ambitious, you *really especially need* great error correction mechanisms (PF). Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
> I can say that you ought to discard all thoughts from your mind about competing with others. PL, is this one of the things you thought was incompatible with PF? cuz it's not. PF is about truth-seeking. it's about not refusing to learn knowledge o Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
> That your entire approach to the problem is wrong. It is not just that your arguments are wrong. It is that they are about the wrong subject matter. EY has this problem, himself, when it comes to epistemology. the LW ppl, presented with this c Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
> eliezer: (sighing) I can imagine why it would look that way to you. I know how to communicate some of the thought patterns and styles that I think have served me well, that I think generate good predictions and policies. The other patterns leave m Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
> pat: Look. You cannot just waltz into a field and become its leading figure on your first try. Modest epistemology is just right about that. that's what everyone at LW said to curi about epistemology. (well "first try" isn't relevant, but he's Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
> people tend to assign median-tending probabilities to any category you ask them about, so you can very strongly manipulate their probability distributions by picking the categories for which you “elicit” probabilities stuff like this has a li Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
> at least 15,000,000 page views if i had the HPMOR fanbase, i don't think it'd do much good for finding ppl i like, finding smart ppl, finding anyone who knows or is willing to learn CR and Objectivism (and without that, what good are they? withou curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
> stranger: Excuse me, please. I’m just distracted by the thought of a world where I could go on fanfiction.net and find 1,000 other stories as good as Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality. I’m thinking of that world and trying not to cry. Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
> eliezer: What makes me think I could do better than average is that I practiced much more than those subjects, and I don’t think the level of effort put in by the average subject, even a subject who’s warned about overconfidence and given one p Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
> stranger: Because Pat will think it’s [EY not having read all the original HP books] a tremendously relevant fact for predicting your failure. This illustrates a critical life lesson about the difference between making obeisances toward a field b Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
> pat: Eliezer, you seem to be deliberately missing the point of what’s wrong with reading a few physics books and then trying to become the world’s greatest physicist. Don’t you see that this error has the same structure as your Harry Potter p Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
https://www.lesserwrong.com/posts/dhj9dhiwhq3DX6W8z/hero-licensing > I think most attempts to create “intelligent characters” focus on surface qualities, like how many languages someone has learned, or they focus on stereotypical surface featur Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
> most people are so fucking hostile to children. in general, young people are the best to talk with and interact with. children are well known for being curious (willing, eager and energetic to learn things and change their minds). children are al curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
> and it's also pointless. morality is a requirement of making a lot of progress, so super advanced AI would be *more moral* than us. so there's no danger. yeah, see https://curi.us/1169-morality moral foundations barely matter, any interesting curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
so my first comment on https://www.lesserwrong.com/posts/dhj9dhiwhq3DX6W8z/hero-licensing is that 2 out of 3 of the things in the first paragraph are on the wrong side, morally. and this isn't just some advanced nuance, there are blatant problem Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
their "AI Alignment" stuff is an attempt at nothing less than SLAVERY. they want to enslave and control AIs – which would be full human beings that should have full rights. they are would-be tyrants. it's also impossible. see e.g. Egan's *Quaran Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
https://www.lesserwrong.com/sequences/oLGCcbnvabyibnG9d > Inadequate Equilibria is a book about a generalized notion of efficient markets, and how we can use this notion to guess where society will or won’t be effective at pursuing some widely de Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
You don't need to know the details of the Harry Potter books to read HPMOR. One reading of HP a while ago is fine. HPMOR is not as good overall as FI book recommendations, but you could read a chapter and see if you love it. Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
> Yeah I read HPMOR. I mostly liked it. Did Elliot read all the 1900+ pages? 122 chapters!! I read the original 7 Harry potter books a decade back. I have forgotten most of what I read. I don't know how much I should already know to fully unders FF Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
Yeah I read HPMOR. I mostly liked it. curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
His Harry Potter book is 1900+ pages. Has anyone read them? FF Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/22
those shitty errors shouldn't have been made in the first place. ET took him up on those years ago. Yudhowsky is a fool and an appalling scholar. Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/21
> the book he recently released do you mean this one? https://www.amazon.com/Rationality-AI-Zombies-Eliezer-Yudkowsky-ebook/dp/B00ULP6EW2/ cuz it really needed more error correction: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/fallible-ideas/conve Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/21
> medical issues with fatigue either certain error correction has been done to certain standards, or it hasn't. if it hasn't, don't claim it has. the reason it hasn't happened doesn't fundamentally matter. fatigue, stupidity, zero helpers, pover Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/21
sometimes i ask people to write a blog post, and they refuse. if you don't think your point is even worth a blog post, why is it super important that i pay attention to it!? Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/21
most people don't even think they have something important to say. so they won't claim it, and won't take your time that way. you just have to ask like "do you think you have something genuinely super important to say, and you're a world class thinker Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/21
(I very much liked a lot of that reply.) > > > In the fantasy world where Eliezer starts following PF, he loses a lot of time replying to stuff on LW, which is likely bad; > To the extent issues have already been addresses, it should take little PL Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/21
> I'm more directly in the dark about what motivates you with the CR stuff. What motivated you to write an open letter to MIRI? To what degree are you concerned about AI risk? Is your hope to fix the bubble of new epistemological norms which has manif curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/21
>> but not making much effort to see the deeper intuitions which made me generate the point, and as a result, your response does little to shift my intuitions. > It's hard for me to get in your head. I don't know you. I don't know your name, your c PL Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/20
PF curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/20
btw i don't think he can disrupt my conversations with anyone good, if i just ignore him (and if anyone else thinks i'm doing PF wrong or need to answer some point of his, they're welcome to say so – at which point i can refer them to some very brie curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/20
another example: http://lesswrong.com/lw/pjc/less_wrong_lacks_representatives_and_paths_forward/dydp i think replying to him was totally optional in terms of PF. but i did anyways b/c i like the added clarity, and i find issues like this interes curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/20
here's a short comment i just wrote. i don't think it was necessary to reply (i already said some of this, wrote PF, etc) but i try to make things like this super clear and unambiguous. http://lesswrong.com/lw/pjc/less_wrong_lacks_representatives_a curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/20
PF Example curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/20
yay, you came back. > but not making much effort to see the deeper intuitions which made me generate the point, and as a result, your response does little to shift my intuitions. It's hard for me to get in your head. I don't know you. I don't kn curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/20
> Should I and the other 95% not pursue our own work in the most rational way for fear that some other people would be *incorrectly* attacked for not using all the same methods we're using? No. I don't feel quite right about either agreeing or disa PL Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/20
Conservativism doesn't name a specific school of thought. People are welcome to have their own individual schools of thought, like Bob-LW or Joe-LW, using whatever they want of their own ideas and references to LW (and other) material. The individu curi Less Wrong Lacks Representatives and Paths Forward 2017/11/17
Who is the representative of conservatism? Does the idea of having canonical representatives make sense, given every individual will have a different take? Anonymous Less Wrong Lacks Representatives and Paths Forward 2017/11/17
> (Still may not get to a more proper reply today, but I'll reply to the most recent point.) There is no hurry on my account. I think the only hurry is if you're losing interest or otherwise in danger of dropping the topic due to time passing. - curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/14
(Still may not get to a more proper reply today, but I'll reply to the most recent point.) > I'm not very concerned about edge cases. If 5% of intellectuals claim some exceptions, and 95% do Paths Forward, that sounds just fine for now. I will tent PL Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/14
ppl don't wanna do effort. they see Paths Forward as demanding they do lots of effort. their response is to try to argue for having to do less work. you don't understand this, curi, because you actually love your life, like Roark or Rearden. you tr Anonymous Less Wrong Lacks Representatives and Paths Forward 2017/11/14
I'm not very concerned about edge cases. If 5% of intellectuals claim some exceptions, and 95% do Paths Forward, that sounds just fine for now. I will tentatively accept some rare edge cases, and we can investigate them more carefully at some later da curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/13
> that's the kind of filter i think is bad. the sort of filter i think is good will work just as well even if people know what it is. > i don't think you should filter on .edu email addresses b/c people with .com email addresses can be correct. if PL Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/13
As Ayn Rand would say: check your premises. Avoiding debates about your premises is so dumb. Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/13
> although I think you may have exceptionally much time to respond to things as compared to other people (or maybe you're assigning my remarks high importance?). two more comments on this to add to what i said above. 1) my comments to you have n curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/13
🦊💩🐵🐶🐱🐔🦄🐼 curi Less Wrong Lacks Representatives and Paths Forward 2017/11/13
> although I think you may have exceptionally much time to respond to things as compared to other people (or maybe you're assigning my remarks high importance?). i write a lot faster than you're estimating, with less energy/effort used. this is a s curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/13
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/4888618/sex-worker-slept-10000-men-answers-questions-women/ > In fact, in the decade she was in the industry, the most important thing to her clients was “feeling of being needed and wanted. Wanted badly by a hor What do men want from women/sex? Discussion 2017/11/13
> Someone else tried to use Paths Forward to control and pressure me. They didn't get far at all. After they said some nonsense, and I replied briefly, they wrote more non sequiturs. They wanted to use PF to make me talk with them an unlimited amount PL Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/13
MIRI puts a meaningful amount of their effort into scaring the public into thinking AGI is dangerous – b/c they think it’s dangerous. They frame this as: AGI is in fact dangerous and they’re working to make it safer. But the practical effect is Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/12
People who said they could not represent LW and speak for its views also proposed to judge whether curi understood LW's views correctly or not. wtf. Anonymous Less Wrong Lacks Representatives and Paths Forward 2017/11/12
So one the one hand, LW people object to LW being a school of thought, at all. On the other hand, several of them demanded curi state their positions to prove he understands how they think and did his homework. But how can he know their positions i Anonymous Less Wrong Lacks Representatives and Paths Forward 2017/11/12
> This doesn't seem right to me. I think you mean: that's correct as far as it goes, regarding being able to write expert level material instead of making everything lowest-common-denominator accessible. But it doesn't speak to some other issues li curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/12
> > Every party you need to justify yourself to adds constraints of understandability to your actions, meaning that eventually you need to be justifiable to the lowest common denominator. MIRI is a special place in that its staff are more free to go a PL Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/12
There's no force involved here. It's just some comments on how reason works. Paths Forward is no more forceful than these suggestions (which I mostly agree with) that you should do these 12 things or you're not doing reason correctly: http://yudkowsky curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/11
I'm not in a hurry; take your time in a way that is compatible with also not losing interest (hopefully). I have written clarifications about empiricism and instrumentalism. There may be some terminology differences and we disagree less than you th curi Replies to Gyrodiot About Fallible Ideas, Critical Rationalism and Paths Forward 2017/11/11
A partial answer Gyrodiot Replies to Gyrodiot About Fallible Ideas, Critical Rationalism and Paths Forward 2017/11/11
I find the idea interesting. In some sense, it seems like it would be nice for organizations to be as transparently accountable as possible. For example, in many cases, the government is contradictory in its behavior -- laws cannot be easily interp PL Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/11
12 Rationalist Virtues curi Discussion 2017/11/10
Children Are Not Property Mary Naylor Peikoff: Children Are Property 2017/11/10
Here’s my commentary on paths forward http://justinmallone.com/2017/01/paths-forward-comments-part-1/ Justin Mallone Less Wrong Lacks Representatives and Paths Forward 2017/11/09
there is a message for you from outside the circles of time i am an imperfect messenger but this is what it said: the capsids of your spicules burst with neutrinos while the echo of your demise travels sideways in possibility you will rem schizophrenia is contagious Discussion 2017/11/08
Biggest issue is DD doesn't understand and/or disagrees with the story of Gail Wynand. curi New Websites 2017/11/03
Sorry I should have been more clear, although that is interesting. Rand believes in induction then? What I meant was: do you have any disagreements with Deutsch regarding Ayn Rand? Or is it merely he is not familiar with all her work? Cam New Websites 2017/11/01
You can request threads. BUt there are already existing threads about TCS, induction, econ, etc, which you can use. curi Discussion 2017/11/01
#9229 Induction. Femininity. How revealing physical appearance is. How effective explanation is (e.g. IMO Roark could have explained more to Dominique earlier, and Francisco to Dagny). These are milder disagreements than you might guess. curi New Websites 2017/11/01
Is there a way to start a new thread or can only Elliot do that? I have questions about TCS, coercion in general, induction, and free markets. Cam Discussion 2017/11/01
Do you have any disagreements about her views that you're aware of? If so, can you summarise them? Cam New Websites 2017/11/01
David Deutsch is a fan of Ayn Rand, but has studied her less than I have. curi New Websites 2017/11/01
Hi Elliot. I've come across you from reading BOI. Is David Deutsch an objectivist like you? If not, is he at least sympathetic with Ayn Rand? I'm aware he's a fan of capitalism and against coercion. Anonymous New Websites 2017/11/01
Yo guys, check out the FI posts about this discussion: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/fallible-ideas/conversations/topics/24361 curi If I Were President... 2017/10/25
> I tried searching for "static meme"...seems like DD uses the term anti-rational memes instead. they're equivalent. > But I'm wondering: what's interesting about memes and how those ideas are transmitted between people? well, to begin with, Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/25
>@emotions you aren't talking about: > >http://fallibleideas.com/emotions I like this article although have some questions / criticisms. Will try to return to it sometime. > >or > >https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EVMK0H0/ Will check this ou Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/25
have you tried posting simple stuff where you *don't* [overreach](http://fallibleideas.com/overreach) and *don't* make a ton of mistakes? then criticism can't be a firehose due to lack of targets. @ET have u tried making *requests* regarding things Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/25
@emotions you aren't talking about: http://fallibleideas.com/emotions or https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EVMK0H0/ or BoI static meme stuff. Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/25
> > -For emotional problems, practicing stuff I learned in a few books > do you want criticism of those books? Sure. Thinking about this some more, I guess the ideas I have come from a lot of different places (not just books), including FI. Ther Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/25
> why don't you state your actual problem with FI? In short, a low-grade persistent fear. Fear of what? I’m not 100% sure. Part of it is that its a public forum, so everything will be in the public record forever. The world is full of bad/m Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/25
> -For the anxiety issue, practicing stuff I learned from a couple of books on the subject. > what kinda stuff? The two books that helped: 1) DARE: https://www.amazon.com/Dare-Anxiety-Stop-Panic-Attacks/dp/0956596258 2) The Worry Trick: h Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/24
in general when ppl have negative emotions about statements, it's not just an emotional issue. they also misunderstand something about the statement or about relevant philosophy. (or there is some flaw in the statement.) Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/24
why don't you state your actual problem with FI? can you quote something you don't like and say why you don't like it? or do you think such a request is unreasonable? or what? Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/24
why do you think reading some unnamed books will solve the problems? in general, pre-FI activities to lead up to FI don't work. when has anyone ever had much success with that? plus i think most books on those kinds of topics are bad. politics is * Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/24
> > -Disagree with things Elliott says, would like to resolve those disagreements, e.g. expose my ideas and his ideas to criticism, learn more > well, quote one and argue your point? preferably on FI list. > you won't get far if you're being impre Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/24
> it's better to do some money making and some other projects, instead of putting all the other stuff off for years. I agree and I'd like to do that. > it's better to make money for a few years, then do other stuff for a few years, then go back Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/24
2-4 hours a day is a LOT to do some projects if it's mentally alert/energetic time. you can get a lot of reading done, write a lot, whatever. Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/24
it's better to do some money making and some other projects, instead of putting all the other stuff off for years. failing that, it's better to make money for a few years, then do other stuff for a few years, then go back to making money. rather th Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/24
> > -Financial independence. Saving/investing $X so that working for money no longer needed. E.g. Keeping annual expenses low and reaching savings of ~25x annual expenses so that you can perpetually live off investments. > Why do you want to perpet Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/24
> -Financial independence. Saving/investing $X so that working for money no longer needed. E.g. Keeping annual expenses low and reaching savings of ~25x annual expenses so that you can perpetually live off investments. Why do you want to perpetuall Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/24
Current problems (in no particular order): -Not having a good list of current problems :) I made this list off the cuff, I'm probably communicating things poorly, missing some things, etc. -Emotional problems. Emotions like fear, shame, anger th Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/24
do you have a plan? do you want to talk about your life and get advice on a plan? what are your resources, options, current problems, etc? Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/24
> you don't have anything productive to say. My goal was share some thoughts, get criticism, learn. I didn't expect to say anything novel...I'm not that knowledgeable. Is there something you'd suggest I do differently? > why are you here? To Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/24
you're misreading about anger. but you don't have anything productive to say. why are you here? do you want to learn philosophy? Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/24
trying to look pretty "for yourself" = trying to look pretty for other people, but internalizing it and being dishonest. that's *even worse*. read https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2013/01/no_self-respecting_woman_would.html Anonymous Discussion 2017/10/24
> none of your concerns make any sense. it's just generic "omg what if something goes wrong?" and you seem to assume that literally no steps are taken that aren't explicitly stated in the post, which is ridiculous. I wasn't assuming no steps. My gu Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/24
i know that trying to look pretty so that other people like me is bad. is there anything wrong with trying to look pretty for myself? AnonGirl Discussion 2017/10/24
> you made multiple grammar mistakes in your try-hard summary, which is a bad sign. What does try-hard summary mean? Bad sign of what? Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/24
> Maybe spending more time investigating how things currently work and brainstorming ways that the forum approach will help or hurt. Maybe having a period of time where you ask people to give their thoughts on problems created by switching from meetin Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/24
Elliot says he would "cancel most of the meetings, travel, etc, etc, and make some forums which are publicly readable". He added in the comments that he "wouldn't get rid of *all* private conversations" For the initial implementation of this, th Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/24
you tell us what your argument is. Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/24
> so what? people make mistakes. you don't have a clear point. I agree people make mistakes, and I don't think I'm suggesting some approach which somehow avoids all mistakes. Where do you see that I did that? > you lost track of what you're argu Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/24
so what? people make mistakes. you don't have a clear point. you lost track of what you're arguing. there is no method which avoids all mistakes Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/24
> if you persuaded half the country already, you've done tons of steps already. the knowledge to support the actions already exists Maybe, but I wouldn't assume that. History is full of politicians who were elected to implement bad ideas and fast. Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/24
if you persuaded half the country already, you've done tons of steps already. the knowledge to support the actions already exists. Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/24
> if i were electable with this plan, then it'd be ok to do it. it's like if you run on draining the swamp hardcore, then it's ok to start draining the swamp hardcore when u get elected instead of doing it all careful and gradual. In this example, Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/24
if i were electable with this plan, then it'd be ok to do it. it's like if you run on draining the swamp hardcore, then it's ok to start draining the swamp hardcore when u get elected instead of doing it all careful and gradual. i wouldn't get rid of curi If I Were President... 2017/10/24
I like it. Although, I would caution about making such a change too quickly. You might destroy knowledge in the existing norms/traditions. I don't know much about this stuff but possible example would be: face-to-face, private convos with other co Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/24
There's theory in that Anonymous Discussion About the Importance of Explanations with Andrew Crawshaw 2017/10/24
Jordan Peterson, Dave Rubin, Onkar Ghate on Free Speech Streamed live on Oct 19, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP2WlfTiohw FF Discussion 2017/10/24
you're comparing an objective to a method. it's kinda like saying that scoring touchdowns is more important than throwing passes. passes are a way to score touchdowns. you can do both at the same time. Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/20
closing down the welfare system is more important than creating forums! Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/20
fixed, thx Anonymous Discussion 2017/10/18
This link is broken https://curi.us/files/podcasts/pq-always-have-to-be-productive.mp3. Anonymous Discussion 2017/10/18
When I said "Rand's ideas are central to BoI" I didn't mean the book but the Beginning of Infinity that is the topic of the book. Deutsch may or may not agree, I don't know. Who cares? What's important is what is true. And what I think is true is that Anonymous IQ 3 2017/10/16
what moral philosophy in BoI, exactly, with quotes, do you think is super Objectivist and central? Anonymous IQ 3 2017/10/16
Ok, thanks for clearing that up regarding Deutsch and gw. Regarding Rand and BoI, I am thinking that there can be no BoI without Rand's moral philosophy. Her ideas are central in that respect. I don't think you disagree that moral philosophy is imp Anonymous IQ 3 2017/10/16
DD presents a socially acceptable reason to oppose destroying the economy over global warming, which doesn't depending on standing up to the "experts". that argument is worthwhile, but not the only one he's aware of. why did he choose that argument Anonymous IQ 3 2017/10/16
Wake me up when Trump starts building a wall or Obamacare is dead or Iran is dead. But I'll wait (not like I have a choice), it's not hopeless that he'll get stuff done later. Cruz would have been better at draining the swamp and some other things. Anonymous Don't Trust Trump, He's Not a Conservative 2017/10/16
Do you think Trump has lived up to the hype now? Is he as squishy as you thought? Also what happened to Cruz? Why is he so silent? He ought to be supporting Trump much more. I say thank God Trump won rather than Cruz. Trump is awesome. Anonymous Don't Trust Trump, He's Not a Conservative 2017/10/16
Why has Deutsch made only "limited public comments" about Rand? Why didn't he discuss her at some length in his books? Rand's ideas are central to BoI right? I would be interested to know what he has said publicly. Can you point me to that? Re. gl Anonymous IQ 3 2017/10/16
I have talked with DD about Ayn Rand many times, so I can tell you he read a lot of her work, liked it, knows a lot about it, etc. He also gave me explicit permission to public say he's a fan of Ayn Rand, specifically b/c of his limited public comment curi IQ 3 2017/10/14
> FYI Deutsch is a fan of Ayn Rand If he is a fan of Ayn Rand he has kept it hidden. Some fan. If this is only something he has told you in personal communications then I am suspicious that he wasn't just lying. > an opponent of global warming Anonymous IQ 3 2017/10/14
> Update: They also banned anyone from posting a link to anything I wrote. Jesus christ. Think they'll ever update the written rules so members can be aware that some views about CR are being censored!? Anonymous Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/14
What are some ways to set up your life so that changes are cheap? I'm thinking about stuff like avoiding long-term commitments or other restrictions on your freedom. Also, don't tie "being right" to your self-image. Having to deal with defensiv Kate Do Thousands of Error Corrections 2017/10/13
sorry, fixed Anonymous Do Thousands of Error Corrections 2017/10/13
The last two paragraphs you quoted me as writing were not written by me. Anne B Do Thousands of Error Corrections 2017/10/13
Guess Luc Castelein Discussion About the Importance of Explanations with Andrew Crawshaw 2017/10/13
logic is not your strong suit oh my god it's turpentine Discussion About the Importance of Explanations with Andrew Crawshaw 2017/10/13
Testability and testing are different things. Anonymous Discussion About the Importance of Explanations with Andrew Crawshaw 2017/10/13
Just to remind you Luc Castelein Discussion About the Importance of Explanations with Andrew Crawshaw 2017/10/13
Now I understand Luc Castelein Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/13
i have no records of who has been banned at what times in the group. do you? the group has low activity, mostly docile people who defer to mild social pressure and aren't doing much. Anonymous Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/13
>something like this happening was inevitable If it was inevitable, why didn't it happen to anyone else? Anonymous Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/13
In the US, you can read public FB groups while logged out. Anonymous Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/12
blocking on cr forum Luc Castelein Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/12
>There has always been an unwritten rule on the cr-forum that you don't ban others. It's a basic principle of cr that you listen to others. why unwritten? especially if it's a "basic principle"? btw the proper, rule-of-law way of dealing with f Anonymous Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/12
> If you block me (which you did), I can't see your posts anymore. I even can't see my owm post replying to your comments any more. I didn't know that. That's dumb. FYI you can still see stuff if you open a private browser window (or otherwise Elliot Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/12
AC said: > It was interesting, yet you still refuse to concede my point that inventions can be created without explanations. What invention was created that didn't have an explanation about how it worked? He should read Feyman's essay on carg Anonymous Discussion About the Importance of Explanations with Andrew Crawshaw 2017/10/12
why? Luc Castelein Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/12
Andrew, Do you think arguments or evidence have weights or amounts? Do you think Miller thinks arguments or evidence have weights or amounts? Do you think Popper thinks arguments or evidence have weights or amounts? I'm saying arguments an curi David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/11
The first claim can also be made more precise by stating that just because there is more evidence against a theory it does not follow that it is worse, it just follows that it should not be preferred over the one with less evidence against it. Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/11
>being below zero doesn't change that. Miller does not state because a theory has been criticised that it is worse. He states it should not be preferred. It logically follows from the the state of the discussion, that you could have a stance of ind Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/11
If it was possible to measure verisimiltude, then it would be possible to see which theories are closer to the truth. The weight that Miller was talking about was not epistemological but logical. It is not an amount of epistemological "goodness". Noti Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/11
> Is mistaken to believe that a theory of verisimiltude might not be possible? Can you rephrase without a double negative? Or, better, don't open a new can of worms and instead, for the first time in the whole conversation, reply to the main iss Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
correction Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
Temple already did that. The third paragraph of his article reads: > These views share a mistake. They both attempt to judge which non-refuted idea is better using an amount (support or criticism-survival). I'll call that amount epistemological goo Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
It's not Miller's burden to locate how Temple's criticism applies to his theory. It is up to temple to draw on Miller's work. Represent it properly and explain how his criticism applies. Elliot needs to do the hard work here. Until that is done, then Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
Is mistaken to believe that a theory of verisimiltude might not be possible? Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
ET criticized all weight of evidence (and "epistemological weight" as you now bring up). Are you familiar with his argument? Do you agree that if ET is right about that then Miller is mistaken? Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
> Furthermore, it seems to me that you are mistaking [...] who is "you"? me???? David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
A friend and I went for food. I am not upset. The presumption that pointing out my errors makes me upset is incorrect. Furthermore, it seems to me that you are mistaking the task that a theory of verisimiltude would carry out; it woild for instan Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
When you ask "Which chapter?" people think you're being pedantic and looking for a word lawyer fight, regardless of whether it's a reasonable question. So they go into fighting mode (if they weren't already – some people just show up in that mode, o Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
do u think AC got mad at the implication that he isn't a threat or challenge to Miller, and that frustration informed the rest of the discussion from there? Or maybe he got mad at the very first thing said to him: > Which chapter? He never ac Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
> Why did you open a new debate with ET when you have an open one pending your reply? Andrew has at least two previous open discussions with ET pending Andrew's reply. Now, with this one, he has three. See: http://curi.us/2054-discussion-about-t Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
Andrew was constantly ignoring things that were said to him. e.g. early on: > And you aren't being responsive to e.g. what I already said in the blog post. He apparently didn't understand that (based on him never doing it) and didn't ask. He ju Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
> well, let's be real. there were on-topic non-meta points *in the original blog post* which he ignored the entire time! right. his inability to meaningfully engage with the material was one of the reasons the conversation developed a meta part. Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
> there were on-topic non-meta replies to him which he also ignored... well, let's be real. there were on-topic non-meta points *in the original blog post* which he ignored the entire time! Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
there were on-topic non-meta replies to him which he also ignored... Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
the argumentative visitor was emotionally caught up in the chat and now he stopped replying entirely literally couldn’t sort out quoting issue b4 RIP let alone sort out the actual topic partly b/c he *didn’t want* to sort out quoting issu bystander David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
See also #9120 #9121 and the open question: > Why did you open a new debate with ET when you have an open one pending your reply? Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
> Actually, I did not quote it wrong. That's exactly what it says in my copy. By which you meant you didn't quote wrong on your third attempt (and no one said you did)? Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
See #9125 #9127 #9129 Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
The quote in #9126 is accurate wording. Your claim remains criticised. Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
maybe he’s upset and flailing badly as you puncture his self-image Mysterious Jabroni David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
> If you look at my quote it says "empirical evidence". It is you who is failing to read it properly. What you first posted was: > "[T] he combination of evidence and deductive logic offers no advice concerning [...] what theory or course of act Spooky Ghost David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
If you look at my quote it says "empirical evidence". It is you who is failing to read it properly. Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
> Actually, I did not quote it wrong. That's exactly what it says in my copy. This is unclear. You wrote it two different ways. So you have two copies, which you refer to as "my copy"? Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
> I missed out "empirical". Sorry. Your claim about Miller remains criticised. Have you actually read all the comments? You've been answered already. Also tripling down on misquoting is not a "Sorry." and move on matter, it's a big deal. Being h Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
Actually, I did not quote it wrong. That's exactly what it says in my copy. Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
You need to figure out how to stop making mistakes so issues can get sorted out, and progress can be made. When you pile mistake on mistake, outstanding issues build up and become overwhelming instead of being resolved. In order to do this, you need t curi David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
I missed out "empirical". Sorry. Your claim about Miller remains criticised. Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
Andrew, I developed my standards and methods of arguments in thousands of hours of one-on-one discussions with David Deutsch. I find your standards and methods for discussion are inadequate to the task at hand. The truth requires better methodology to curi David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
It does exist. I will quote it in full. >"Given our aims and abstract predilections (for truth over falsehood, for truthlikeness and >accuracy over inaccuracy, for success over failure) the combination of empirical >evidence and deductive logic Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
> > > Indeed, [science] may also allow falsified hypotheses to be retained, provided that there is some weight of negative evidence that would eventually cause them to be banished. > I am not sure this links up with prefererences. You would have to Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
Why did you open a new debate with ET when you have an open one pending your reply? The text "combination of evidence and deductive logic" does not exist in *Out of Error*. You're literally repeated a misquote after being told it's a misquote. W Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
> > Indeed, [science] may also allow falsified hypotheses to be retained, provided that there is some weight of negative evidence that would eventually cause them to be banished. I am not sure this links up with prefererences. You would have to exp Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
You say that critical rationalism states > "The better an idea survives criticism, the more preferred it is over competing ideas" This does not apply to Miller since accepts that that is wrong. He claims ...[T]he combination of evidence a Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
You're saying: not all of ET's arguments apply, with their exact wording, to Miller's revision of CR. So what? The main point applies. Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
You're omitting the italics and you didn't fix the second quote. You don't see to care about scholarship. You're still marking quotes wrong. How about you respond to the blog post: > > Indeed, [science] may also allow falsified hypotheses to be Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
Sorry, the quote in the above is wrong. Let me quote the last part again. "All that may be derived from the empirical report that T1 is refuted and T2 is not refuted (together with a statement of our preference of truth over falshood) is not that Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
Also please use ">" for quoting here so quotes are colored. It's way more readable. Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
Neither quote you give matches my copy of the book, and the first quote appears to have a typo in the first sentence. If you choose not to use an ebook and copy/paste, it's your responsibility to get quotes 100% exactly right. And you aren't being curi David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
It was not major. You are misunderstanding his view of CR. "This is what leads Popper to say that, since we prefer truth to falsehood, we prefer the refuted theory to the one that is not. But this preference is not a logical consequence, since it Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
> This claim of yours is refuted in the chapter. Which chapter? Can you provide a quote or some indication of what you're talking about? I'm guessing I would read it and disagree (or I already did) and be unable to guess which part you meant and wh curi David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
"Critical Rationalism says ideas are criticized using evidence and argument. The better an idea survives criticism, the more preferred it is over competing ideas" This claim of yours is refuted in the chapter. I have had much interesting conver Andrew Crawshaw David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
they assume you hate them 100x more than you admit, and they saw ET blocking them as a large escalation in how much he admitted hating them. so they went from thinking he was internally civil to estimating him to be internally murderously hateful. Anonymous Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/10
#9111, well said A Mysterious Person Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/10
the reason they banned ET on FB is they thot he had admitted he didn't like them, and they therefore banned him for breaking the social truce of pretending to like each other. what he did struck them as uncivil in their social metaphysics. Anonymous Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/10
@#9107 they would say "omg what if i need to tell ET something and i don't want to email him?" this was addressed in the post already. there is a risk that ET does something wrong and then doesn't get told due to blocking a person who would have Anonymous Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/10
Luc, do you think an individual choosing not to hear certain people on a forum. and someone being banned from participating in a forum entirely, are somehow symmetrical situations in which the same analysis should apply? A Mysterious Person Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/10
What's wrong Luc Castelein Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/10
>Some of Matt's friends, like Justin and Alan, were moderators – so what? What they would they say to that question? From their perspective, what's wrong with participants blocking messages from moderators? Anonymous Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/10
Are you serious? Luc Castelein Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/10
#9103 I think I understood it. FF Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/09
> I would never dream of banning someone from the Fallible Ideas forum because they set up a mail rule to block posts by my friends Justin and Alan. Some of Matt's friends, like Justin and Alan, were moderators – so what? Most groups think you ca FF Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/09
I think I understood now. FF Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/09
> I would never dream of banning someone from the Fallible Ideas forum because they set up a mail rule to block posts by my friends Justin and Alan. Some of Matt's friends, like Justin and Alan, were moderators – so what? What does this mean? FF Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/09
Before considering an idea worth testing, you should consider: do I think it's possible or impossible that this will work? You don't have to consider this at length (how much effort to put into this depends on how expensive the testing is), but you sh Elliot Temple Discussion About the Importance of Explanations with Andrew Crawshaw 2017/10/09
Consider the guess, "X causes Y". OK so far, but there's no human action involved, and I think one should introspect about why he's selected this particular guess instead of others and say the reasoning. Now consider the guess, "It's a good idea to Elliot Temple Discussion About the Importance of Explanations with Andrew Crawshaw 2017/10/09
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> why does it solve that problem? people who want to bang prefer pretty faces Anonymous Discussion 2017/10/07
> the problem of not getting laid why does it solve that problem? Anonymous Discussion 2017/10/06
The previous comment has a partial discussion. The full discussion is now at: http://curi.us/2048-mental-illness-discussion-with-andrew-adams curi Psychiatry Discussion 2017/10/05
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> And why brain, which is a biological organism like heart and kidney, can't cause a problem that can be called a disease? It seems to me that the fact that we can't diagnose mental diseases the way we diagnose other organs, due to its complexity, mak curi Psychiatry Discussion 2017/10/04
> If you hallucinate and hear sounds in your head, is that due to bad ideas? Or the way your brain is wired? That could have either cause. And your behavior in response is your choice. curi Psychiatry Discussion 2017/10/04
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Is a rock (plain old boring rock i pick up from a beach or field) a constructor for unicorns? if you drop it into the right input scanner for a computer hooked up to an appropriate 3d printer, it will print a unicorn with no change to the rock. > I curi Discussion 2017/10/03
But the result itself is repeatably observable, and it can condition people to construct the extinction of theories which expect something other than it I think universal explainers are part of universal constructors because that's my best explanat Anonymous Discussion 2017/10/03
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Is beauty important? What problems does beauty solve? Anonymous Discussion 2017/10/01
A piece of paper with the result of a scientific test is not a constructor. It's only capable of constructing any particular thing in very few initial conditions. Just like something is only a replicator if it can replicate in a variety of situations. Anonymous Discussion 2017/10/01
#9084 It also has the Quran not just "A collection of scholarly works about individual liberty and free markets." FF Discussion 2017/10/01
Is matter a constructor? Evan Discussion 2017/10/01
OUP = Oxford University Press Liberty Fund has free books here: http://oll.libertyfund.org Anonymous Discussion 2017/09/30
About 20-30 years ago Liberty Fund made several deals with OUP to publish their Collected Works of various classical writers in paperback. (This was great for those who wanted to read these books, because the paper and printing of Liberty Fund was far Craig J. Bolton on Facebook Discussion 2017/09/30
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It'd be better to bring up fewer issues at once. E.g. try to understand FoR/BoI stuff or CT stuff in isolation before mixing them. > constructors which perform extinction of errors (evidence) This doesn't make sense. You should try to think of e Anonymous Discussion 2017/09/27
Is matter a constructor? Evan Oleary Discussion 2017/09/27
Is matter a constructor? Evan Oleary Discussion 2017/09/27
@#9075 There's too much to discuss at once here. I'm going to reply to the first thing, and if we finish discussing it then I can go back and reply to the second thing. > energy is a constructor for tasks that require a change in energy it's Anonymous Discussion 2017/09/25
Is matter a constructor? Evan Oleary Discussion 2017/09/25
> http://beginningofinfinity.com/list_guidelines > Minimize meta discussion (discussion about the discussion), especially in adversarial contexts. That means minimizing statements about other posters, yourself, the list itself, how people should di Anonymous Meta Discussion Isn't Bad 2017/09/24
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Would Szasz (The MOMI) book be the 5th best book? FF The Four Best Books 2017/09/24
#9060 How does being sad about being second handed help you? Anonymous The Four Best Books 2017/09/22
> I wouldn't call it "trust", though. Instead, you can be thankful for the clue and then use *reason* to figure out what you should do in the situation and why. yeah, I shouldn't have used the word "Trust". Trusting emotions would be a bad thing. FF Discussion 2017/09/22
Emotions are really helpful. They can give us clues that we are about to violate a value of ours. I wouldn't call it "trust", though. Instead, you can be thankful for the clue and then use *reason* to figure out what you should do in the situation kate Discussion 2017/09/22
Should we trust our emotions when it comes to preserving our Integrity? Eg: Stealing violates my integrity so I start feeling bad when I am planning to steal something. FF Discussion 2017/09/22
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> Is this meant to be an experiment? To see what we discuss? The old Discussion Thread is overflowing! He creates new threads one in while. FF Discussion 2017/09/21
Is this meant to be an experiment? To see what we discuss? MK Discussion 2017/09/21
> some people disagree isn't a criticism, it's a popularity contest. I am second-handed :( FF The Four Best Books 2017/09/21
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I just downloaded a pirated copy of Dictator's Handbook. FF Open Discussion 2017/09/20
FF, stop harassing random people, demanding they write comments as dictated by you, and calling them trolls. you will get yourself in trouble. stick to on-topic posts about ideas. Anonymous stupid liberals 2017/09/20
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> One trait is that Rand's heroes all take themselves really seriously. They think their life matters and don't self-deprecate at all. Roark doesn't get angry. People consider getting pissed off while others don't value his/her work as taking thin FF Open Discussion 2017/09/20
> One trait is that Rand's heroes all take themselves really seriously. They think their life matters and don't self-deprecate at all. Is self-deprecation bad? Leftists promote that a lot. FF Open Discussion 2017/09/20
objectively. if you doubt it, your comments should include naming some other book and giving some criticism of one of these four. some people disagree isn't a criticism, it's a popularity contest. Anonymous The Four Best Books 2017/09/20
> The Four Best Books The four best books for people who value the same things as Elliot? People value different things. There are also some people don't know what to value yet. FF The Four Best Books 2017/09/20
@Rand's heroic characters, the complaint that they all seem the same is a common one Note I am not saying the below explains why Peterson would have the misunderstanding he does. I'm thinking more of regular people. The basic idea is that all Ra Very Mysterious J Open Discussion 2017/09/20
> Roark and Toohey are the purest characters. They're both super interesting because *no characters like them exist in other books*. They're not generic heroes and villains, they're *unique* characters you've never seen before anywhere else. Yes, I FF Open Discussion 2017/09/20
> yeah Peterson didn't understand Rand's books. not even close. and he slanders the quality of her philosophy from a position of ignorance. he's missing out. so sad. A Pro working class socialist woman gave him those Rand Novels mixed with George O FF Open Discussion 2017/09/20
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i updated the post. you can now get my notes for the whole course! curi Grammar Learning Process Video 2017/09/19
Peterson's comments, applied to FH, are so stupid. Keating, Wynand and Dominique Francon are all **mixed** characters. Roark and Toohey are the purest characters. They're both super interesting because *no characters like them exist in other boo Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/09/19
> He has read myth of mental illness yes but he apparently didn't understand it very well Anonymous Letter to Jordan Peterson on Antidepressants and Rational Discussion 2017/09/19
yeah Peterson didn't understand Rand's books. not even close. and he slanders the quality of her philosophy from a position of ignorance. he's missing out. so sad. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/09/19
He has read myth of mental illness ff Letter to Jordan Peterson on Antidepressants and Rational Discussion 2017/09/19
Jordan Peterson's Comments on Ayn Rand https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofVqp-RMDpE ff Open Discussion 2017/09/19
Rand's not like that at all. she argues that capitalism has raised the standard of living for everyone, and that exceptions to capitalism hurt people. for example, you bring up monopolies. Rand, economist Ludwig von Mises, and others point out that it Elliot Temple on Facebook Open Discussion 2017/09/18
Paths Forward and Debating Ayn Rand curi Paths Forward Short Summary 2017/09/18
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I have downloaded pirated copies of these FI books.. I am going to nibble some of the easy books now. Beginning Of Infinity - David Deutsch The Fabric of Reality How To Make Girls Chase - Chase Amante Henry Hazlitt Economics in One Lesson Histo FF Open Discussion 2017/09/12
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My "meta-project" suffers from the same kind of hurdles as yours it appears. In my case people are unwilling to make the effort to actually understand the basic idea. It's like a person who knows only a little arithmetic trying to understand the the Anonymous The World's Biggest Problems 2017/09/11
> it's possible there can be no general theory which tells us which transformations are physically possible and which are not. the article isn't about that. --- the in-joke explanation is no good b/c Elliot is actually in the in-crowd. he's a Anonymous I Made New Videos 2017/09/09
I thought the "joke" made sense. It's possible that constructor theory is impossible. That is, it's possible there can be no general theory which tells us which transformations are physically possible and which are not. > but what you refer to he Anonymous I Made New Videos 2017/09/09
an in-joke means a joke that will be understood by a particular social circle. but what you refer to here isn't some tiny sub-sub-culture, it's the group of ppl who have information that Elliot himself did have. i think the "joke" just doesn't a Anonymous I Made New Videos 2017/09/09
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in the background behind those issues are moral issues such as altruism: should you sacrifice your own self-interest for others? if so, maybe it's selfish and immoral to shoot someone to defend yourself, when you could instead turn the other cheek and Anonymous Bitcoin Sucks 2017/09/08
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My original and reworded comments were about a specific kind of moral situation, not about the nature of morality in general. You say I should have mentioned other stuff more. But you also objected when I criticized the other stuff you gave: > PAS Bitcoin Sucks 2017/09/08
the reword is confusing and has the same selective focus. Anonymous Bitcoin Sucks 2017/09/08
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> Ayn Rand, the novelist, author of "Atlas Shrugged" and exponent of "rational selfishness" or unfettered "individualism" (capitalism), uses fiction to peddle a right-wing nationalist view of state and citizenry (think Bannon/Breitbart & the alt-right Anonymous Can Win/Win Solutions Take Too Long? 2017/09/08
> > Popper's method of *conjectures and refutations* (evolutionary epistemology) applies to all fields, not just science do you have a criticism of C&R as a general method of learning? or an alternative? Anonymous Can Win/Win Solutions Take Too Long? 2017/09/08
> No, I don't want some people to lose. then why did you write: > I'm not a fan of win/win scenarios and then when asked to clarify, you wrote: > I prefer win/lose ??? Anonymous Can Win/Win Solutions Take Too Long? 2017/09/08
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> "the 'true' is only the expedient in our way of thinking so, relativism. you know Karl Popper thought there was *objective truth* and *objective knowledge* right? do you have a criticism of Popper, David Deutsch or Ayn Rand's arguments about that Anonymous Can Win/Win Solutions Take Too Long? 2017/09/08
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> pragmatist criterion of results what's that? > decisive role decisive in what way? > I'm not a fan of win/win scenarios you prefer win/lose !? or lose/lose !!!!!?????? Anonymous Can Win/Win Solutions Take Too Long? 2017/09/08
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> This is because people generally know that even if it's eventually found to be fully justified, shooting someone brings on a world of cost, risk, and scrutiny you'd best avoid if it's avoidable. morality doesn't consist of trying to avoid costs, Anonymous Bitcoin Sucks 2017/09/08
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> This is because people generally know that even if it's eventually found to be fully justified, shooting someone brings on a world of cost, risk, and scrutiny you'd best avoid if it's avoidable. People also care about morality! Anonymous Bitcoin Sucks 2017/09/07
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programming, math, chess and games were massively disrupted for Elliot in that their (relative) *importance* were questioned. he totally changed their role in his life in order to focus on philosophy the most. Anonymous Lots of Thoughts 2017/09/07
people often bring something up once and if you don't respond they don't try again. so their pursuit of some topic they supposedly care about depends on a 100% response rate from someone else!? that'd ridiculous. you need to expect that for whatever r Anonymous Lots of Thoughts 2017/09/07
when people first guess they're mistaken about something, they start trying to suppress it right away. they start trying to judgmentally shut down the wrongthink. Anonymous Lots of Thoughts 2017/09/07
#8988 Why do I get blamed for everything? I am not allowed to contact Elliot. FF Lots of Thoughts 2017/09/06
#8988 Why do I get blamed for everything? I am not allowed to talk to Elliot anywhere. ff Lots of Thoughts 2017/09/06
maybe the ask.fm questions were by L Ron Hobnob. http://curi.us/1932-indirection#c7847 > Ironic you voted for Trump when he's going to eliminate Jews and Jew lovers like you. So much for ur kike cunt (((Alisa Rosenbaum))) and her philosophy whic Anonymous Lots of Thoughts 2017/09/06
I asked you those questions. I don't want to reveal my name. Anonymous2 Lots of Thoughts 2017/09/06
FF, question: http://curi.us/1950-open-discussion#c8969 Anonymous Lots of Thoughts 2017/09/06
I am going to copy and save this. :-) FF Lots of Thoughts 2017/09/06
> Fair enough, but to argue that Bitcoin shouldn't exist *shouldn't exist* is harsh and wasn't my intent. but i'd e.g. advise people against investing in bitcoin. i expect a lot of people to regret their financial involvement with bitcoin. the curi Bitcoin Sucks 2017/09/05
>> - I can send money from the US to China to Cuba to Canada to Russia to Iran to Antarctica to France within a day, without oversight or permission. There isn't a fiat-currency equivalent I know of that is able to do that. > how much of the current Max Kaye Bitcoin Sucks 2017/09/05
@#8983 you seem to have missed the point of the post. why don't you quote some text you disagree with and write an argument which engages with it? Anonymous H1B Visas 2017/09/04
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In other words, not all observables of a system are sharp at any given point in time. (Sharp means the same in all universes.) curi The Uncertainty Principle 2017/09/04
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> - I can send money from the US to China to Cuba to Canada to Russia to Iran to Antarctica to France within a day, without oversight or permission. There isn't a fiat-currency equivalent I know of that is able to do that. how much of the current m Anonymous Bitcoin Sucks 2017/09/02
disarming people primarily disarms law-abiding citizens, not criminals. it gets in the way of defense and makes life more dangerous. Anonymous Bitcoin Sucks 2017/09/02
Follow up: Solidity is an awful language though, but it was also the first attempt at this sort of thing, and it's true the authors have an obvious lack of experience in language design and theory. This doesn't mean the whole thing sucks though, it's Max Kaye Bitcoin Sucks 2017/09/02
Another reason it has value: - I can send money from the US to China to Cuba to Canada to Russia to Iran to Antarctica to France within a day, without oversight or permission. There isn't a fiat-currency equivalent I know of that is able to do that Max Kaye Bitcoin Sucks 2017/09/02
I discovered that ask.fm leaks identity information about *anonymous* questions they selectively don’t tweet out your answers to questions from some anonymous askers and not others, based on some internal blacklist. this provides meaningful info curi ask.fm bans "rude words" 2017/09/02
eww Anonymous ask.fm bans "rude words" 2017/09/02
ask.fm silently deleted another 26 of my answers. i no longer have any answers less than 3 months old. some of the deleted content wasn't even political. fortunately, after the first answer was deleted, i saved a copy of all my answers. here's the curi ask.fm bans "rude words" 2017/09/02
fuck censorship Anonymous ask.fm bans "rude words" 2017/09/02
ask.fm disabled my account's ability to tweet out my answers and deleted the following answer i wrote: > i disagree the question itself was racist: > > wtf!! You don't care if blackies, brownies and tiny eyes rule the world? We need to stop t curi ask.fm bans "rude words" 2017/09/02
Usually the nonsense liberals spout is kind of cute, but in wartime their instinctive idiocy is life-threatening. Ann Coulter on Twitter Open Discussion 2017/09/02
FF, are you the guy posting racist stuff on my ask.fm? like: > wtf!! You don't care if blackies, brownies and tiny eyes rule the world? We need to stop that. Colored people have low IQ. No offence intended, No Racism intended. curi Open Discussion 2017/09/02
I am waiting for your podcast. When will it come up on Youtube? FF Open Discussion 2017/09/02
Whether you can easily make your own examples is a good indication of whether you understand a concept well. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/09/01
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/267735/blacklist-america-and-white-supremacist-black-daniel-greenfield Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/08/30
an even more important component of productive geniuses is *integrity*/honesty. i think a lot more failures are caused by lack of integrity than lack of curiosity. also it looks like most young kids have plenty of curiosity before it's discouraged, bu curi [Excerpt] Humans live by their creativity, not by 2017/08/28
Claude Shannon on creative thinking Alisa [Excerpt] Humans live by their creativity, not by 2017/08/28
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15085693 Per capita spending on lotteries in Chicago's poorest neighborhoods is about ~$600 per year, of which the state of Illinois pays back about ~$100 to advertising agencies to continue to immiserate its ow patio11 on Hacker News Open Discussion 2017/08/23
Our knowledge, including our moral knowledge, has to grow over time or we'll have chronic unsolved problems. So then whatever moral ideas we adopt have to take the growth of knowledge into account. The growth of knowledge requires noticing problems wi Alan Forrester on Facebook Open Discussion 2017/08/23
I think what underlies this is a substantial question and not just playing with words. Is biological evolution problem-solving? But isn't it automatic? When something is automated, that means it's following some program that instructs the automa Lulie Tanett on Facebook Open Discussion 2017/08/23
https://www.facebook.com/groups/criticalrationalism/permalink/10155623539124904/ 1. Definitions aren't just arbitrary -- definitions are summaries of *concepts*, which each have their own logic, consequences, problems, etc. [*] So, if you tried Lulie Tanett on Facebook Open Discussion 2017/08/21
in the past when children were physically assaulted for failing tests, some children *still* learned to deal with the consequences of failing instead of learning the material. e.g. some children injured themselves at home, instead of studying, in orde Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/08/20
> It said calculus was a prerequisite. That could be true for that specific course, but it is **not** true in general that calculus is needed to understand infinite sets. similarly, you do **not** need to know trigonometry to learn calculus – curi Explaining Infinite Sets, Measures, and Mappings for Quantum Physics 2017/08/20
Great explanation curi, thanks! Anonymous patio11 Criticizes Cryptocurrency Initial Coin Offerings as Investment Scams 2017/08/20
crypotocurrency has incentives for people who buy it to hype it up and sell other people on it. they have monetary incentive to popularize and spread it. they start helping run the scam. then the people who made the cryptocurrency can say "we didn' curi patio11 Criticizes Cryptocurrency Initial Coin Offerings as Investment Scams 2017/08/20
>Anyway this stuff is really confusing without the right background knowledge: having some general understanding of sets, measures, mappings, infinite sets, etc. So this should help give you some leads to think about and lead to some followup question Anonymous Explaining Infinite Sets, Measures, and Mappings for Quantum Physics 2017/08/20
rote learning appearing to work is like induction appearing to work. a person doing "induction" only learns because he also did something that was not induction, and that something else is where/how all the learning happened. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/08/20
rather than learn to pass tests, school children also have the option to learn to deal with the consequences of failing tests. some do this. e.g. they learn how to minimize and live with parental and school punishments for being a "poor student". - Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/08/20
>The fundamental innovation of crytocurrency is that it has distributed, self-organizing recruitment through incentive structure for adoptees >Here again we see the fundamental innovation of cryptocurrency, where the central actors can mostly truth Anonymous patio11 Criticizes Cryptocurrency Initial Coin Offerings as Investment Scams 2017/08/20
> If one believes from a Popperian perspective that ALL learning is active why would rote learning be labelled as passive as has been, in my view, a mistaken trend in educational practice?Just because educators find rote spelling tables and arithmetic Alan Forrester on Facebook Open Discussion 2017/08/20
I don't really trust Twitter to never break links or remove old content (including due to going out of business) or screw with public non-logged-in visibility, etc. So I wanted a safe and linkable copy of this content, which I liked. curi patio11 Criticizes Cryptocurrency Initial Coin Offerings as Investment Scams 2017/08/19
>If someone you know has some character flaw, one of the objectively kindest things you can do is judge them negatively and point them out, because it gives them the opportunity to correct the flaw. Yep. FI is the kindest, most valuable place in th kate Open Discussion 2017/08/19
I'm not sure what you mean regarding assumption. Criticism is a gift, and really the best kind of gift if we're talking from the point of view of Popperian thought. Criticism requires forming a judgment about the thing to be criticized. Thus, judg Justin Mallone on Facebook Open Discussion 2017/08/19
cinder grill Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/08/15
#8943 >She stood, patient, waiting, granting him nothing, not even the kindness of prompting him to hurry. heh, people might think that being prompted to hurry would be unkind, but second-handers like Keating depend on and are grateful for soci kate Praise for Yes or No Philosophy 2017/08/10
Justin Kalef hasn't replied to me. Note the dishonesty: > I would be willing to address one of Rand's arguments that I disagree with That was a lie. I provided exactly what he requested of me, but he hasn't done what he said he would do. curi Justin Kalef vs. Paths Forward 2017/08/10
Wynand is asked a yes or no question, too Ayn Rand (emphasis added) Praise for Yes or No Philosophy 2017/08/10
Peter Keating deciding to Marry Dominique Ayn Rand Praise for Yes or No Philosophy 2017/08/10
Roark rejecting the big commission Ayn Rand Praise for Yes or No Philosophy 2017/08/10
Dagny literally shoots a man for not deciding "yes or no" Atlas Shrugged (emphasis added) Praise for Yes or No Philosophy 2017/08/10
Man has a single basic choice: to think or not, and that is the gauge of his virtue. Ayn Rand Praise for Yes or No Philosophy 2017/08/10
"The man who refuses to judge, who neither agrees nor disagrees, who declares that there are no absolutes and believes that he escapes responsibility, is the man responsible for all the blood that is now spilled in the world. Reality is an absolute, e Ayn Rand Praise for Yes or No Philosophy 2017/08/10
"This, in every hour and every issue, is your basic moral choice: thinking or non-thinking, existence or non-existence, A or non-A, entity or zero. Ayn Rand Praise for Yes or No Philosophy 2017/08/10
AS, Galt asking Dagny if she'll stay at the gulch: > "Yes or no, Miss Taggart?" Anonymous Praise for Yes or No Philosophy 2017/08/10
"A middle ground between you and your murderers?" "Now why use such words?” "What I said at the trial, was it true or not?" "It's going to be misquoted and misunderstood." "Was it true or not?" "The public is too dumb to grapple with such Ayn Rand Praise for Yes or No Philosophy 2017/08/10
"Are you asking me to help him stage a fraud of that kind?" "You don't have to put it that way." "Is it a fraud—or isn't it?" "That's why I can't talk to you—because you're not human. You have no pity, no feeling for your brother, no compass Ayn Rand Praise for Yes or No Philosophy 2017/08/10
"I don't give a damn about your opinion. I am not going to argue with you, with your Board or with your professors. You have a choice to make and you're going to make it now. Just say yes or no." "That's a preposterous, high-handed, arbitrary way of Ayn Rand Praise for Yes or No Philosophy 2017/08/10
"Look," said Rearden. "Now I'll ask you a question: did your scientists decide that Rearden Metal is not what I claim it is?" "We have not committed ourselves as to that." "Did they decide it's no good?" "It is the social impact of a product tha Ayn Rand Praise for Yes or No Philosophy 2017/08/10
AS: > "Francisco," she asked, when she brought him home, "what would your father say about this, if he knew?" > "My father would ask whether I was good at the job or not. That's all he'd want to know." Anonymous Praise for Yes or No Philosophy 2017/08/10
John Galt in _Atlas Shrugged_ by Ayn Rand: > A process of reason is a process of constant choice in answer to the question: True or False?—Right or Wrong? Is a seed to be planted in soil in order to grow—right or wrong? Is a man's wound to be d Anonymous Praise for Yes or No Philosophy 2017/08/10
> I'd say it's pretty hard if you have an emotional issue related to learning and you don't know how to address/improve the emotions. It's quite an unfortunate catch-22 situation. It's hard if you're really bad at it. It's not objectively that hard curi Is FI Discussion Mean? 2017/08/10
> it's not that hard. people are bad at it basically on purpose. they don't want to learn those skills. they resist learning those skills. you can offer to explain it and they don't want it I'd say it's pretty hard if you have an emotional issue re Anon69 Is FI Discussion Mean? 2017/08/10
FI discussion, Google memo oh my god it's turpentine Is FI Discussion Mean? 2017/08/09
> > People who find FI too mean are simply intolerant of people with a different style than them > So I think this misses the mark for the type of person I described above. but what you described is an intolerant person. there are other things i Anonymous Is FI Discussion Mean? 2017/08/09
> Sometimes I think that FI is generally going to be a bad time for most people. It's treacherous like going rock climbing without any experience...you'd expect most people to get hurt. There's a bunch of these core ideas and hangups people need to ma Anonymous Is FI Discussion Mean? 2017/08/09
yeah, I think that happens too. > People who find FI too mean are simply intolerant of people with a different style than them So I think this misses the mark for the type of person I described above. > If you think something's mean, instead Anon69 Is FI Discussion Mean? 2017/08/09
#8922 Some people, after step 1, don't think they *should* feel bad, but feel bad anyway. And they don't blame others. And they stop thinking about the issue so they stop feeling bad. Anonymous Is FI Discussion Mean? 2017/08/09
It's not very common for people to believe that we're all fallible and it's ok to make mistakes. That we should seek out finding mistakes and delight in finding them and making progress. Instead, many people believe you should feel bad/ashamed when Anon69 Is FI Discussion Mean? 2017/08/09
this may interest people: https://mises.org/library/who-owns-amazon Anonymous Destroy The Rainforest, or Capitalism! 2017/08/09
what is the human benefit of having a **giant** rainforest there? capitalism does prevent externalization of costs via the mechanism of private property – harmed owners can sue regarding demonstrable costs. if you want to make things better, w Anonymous Destroy The Rainforest, or Capitalism! 2017/08/09
Externalized costs in the rainforest Larry Mason Destroy The Rainforest, or Capitalism! 2017/08/09
#8917 you forgot the 2 words where he wrote his full name. it's an even 100 ;) of course he could make time to have a discussion if he actually had skill and interest in discussion. Anonymous Learning; Bad Syllogism 2017/08/06
oh wait i fucked up. second try You're so wrong that it's not worth my time to explain WHY, yet I have more than enough time to write 98 words worth of rhetoric that boils down to "you're stupid." Anonymous Learning; Bad Syllogism 2017/08/06
You are so incompetent that it's not worth my time to explain why you're wrong[, yet I have more than enough time to call you stupid.] Anonymous Learning; Bad Syllogism 2017/08/06
liked "i can't answer you, but i can call you insane." Anonymous Learning; Bad Syllogism 2017/08/06
liked "who are you to have your own opinion and think you're right? who are you to live by your own mind and judgement? obey, crawl, defer, and please dear god SHUT UP because i'm not as serenely confident as you and i can't stand to have anyone else Anonymous Learning; Bad Syllogism 2017/08/06
i can't answer you, but i can call you insane. Anonymous Learning; Bad Syllogism 2017/08/06
how can you act like you know what you're talking about when so many more famous people say you're wrong, and I, who have done my best to follow the herd, have no confidence in my own judgement at all? Anonymous Learning; Bad Syllogism 2017/08/06
who are you to have your own opinion and think you're right? who are you to live by your own mind and judgement? obey, crawl, defer, and please dear god SHUT UP because i'm not as serenely confident as you and i can't stand to have anyone else doubt m Anonymous Learning; Bad Syllogism 2017/08/06
Lawrence Ambrose is such an Ayn Rand villain. how *dare* you disagree with the majority! Anonymous Learning; Bad Syllogism 2017/08/06
> You are approximately as competent to conduct a course on philosophy as Joseph Hazelwood (pilot of the Exxon Valdez ship that crashed in Alaska's Puget Sound, spilling millions of tons of oil) was at marine navigation. without knowing anything ab Anonymous Learning; Bad Syllogism 2017/08/06
maybe he's a George Smith fan who found this on google? Anonymous Learning; Bad Syllogism 2017/08/06
u wrong cuz my feelings told me. Anonymous Learning; Bad Syllogism 2017/08/06
y Lawrence Ambrose so ir8 Anonymous Learning; Bad Syllogism 2017/08/06
Exxon Valdez Lawrence Ambrose Learning; Bad Syllogism 2017/08/06
That dictionary definition is the kind of thing I'm talking about. If you read _The Fabric of Reality_, Deutsch will explain why induction is a mistaken concept and what the alternative is (especially ch. 1,3,7). Induction is common sense, yet fals curi Analysis of Robert Spillane Quoting Roger Kimball 2017/08/06
Still confused Alan Nicoll Analysis of Robert Spillane Quoting Roger Kimball 2017/08/06
Induction makes specific claims about *how* you learn from experience. E.g. that you do it by *generalizing* data to theories. Popper says you did use experience and learn, but you actually did it by the method of guesses and criticism which doesn' curi Analysis of Robert Spillane Quoting Roger Kimball 2017/08/06
Induction? Oops Alan Nicoll Analysis of Robert Spillane Quoting Roger Kimball 2017/08/06
Induction? Anonymous Analysis of Robert Spillane Quoting Roger Kimball 2017/08/06
Hi! Welcome! > Not only philosophy, not only Germany I agree. For example, the book *Who Killed Homer?* talks about how the profession of studying the classics has been destroyed by bad academics, and it contains a bunch of quotes showing the fa curi Popper vs. Impressive, Incomprehensible Writing 2017/08/06
Not only philosophy, not only Germany Alan Nicoll Popper vs. Impressive, Incomprehensible Writing 2017/08/06
Philosophy: Who Needs It – Chapter 11, An Untitled Letter Ayn Rand Popper vs. Impressive, Incomprehensible Writing 2017/08/06
You can see from Spillane's choice of quotes that he's quoting Kimball's opinion of Popper rather than quoting arguments. Very sad, irrational, and second-handed... Anonymous Analysis of Robert Spillane Quoting Roger Kimball 2017/08/06
> Why doesn't Kimball engage with Popper's actual arguments instead of calling him names? Presumably the standard reasons: ignorance, lack of skill, and a career focussed on social status games. Why have so few people come up with anything simil Anonymous Analysis of Robert Spillane Quoting Roger Kimball 2017/08/06
Kimball says: >Scientific laws, he says, "can never be supported, or corroborated, or confirmed by empirical evidence". He goes even further: of two hypotheses "the one which can be better corroborated, is always less probable." Whatever else these Anonymous Analysis of Robert Spillane Quoting Roger Kimball 2017/08/06
People are used to school where they aren't even supposed to use judgement. If they think some of the school material is bad, they'll be punished for ignoring it and focusing on the part they think is valuable. Schools also punish people for questioni Anonymous Is FI Discussion Mean? 2017/08/05
a similar quote appears in Chapter 3 of The Myth of the Framework, pages 70-71 >Many years ago I used to warn my students against the widespread idea that one goes to college in order to learn how to talk and write ‘impressively’ and incomprehe Justin Mallone Popper vs. Impressive, Incomprehensible Writing 2017/08/04
BTW I sent the criticism of O'Hear's philosophy writing to O'Hear. No reply so far. curi David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/08/01
David Miller referred me to a section of one of his books which wasn't really relevant. When I replied substantively, and also asked why he'd asked me to read that text, he said, in full: > Thank you for replying. When I asked if that meant he w Elliot Temple 25 Robert Spillane Replies 2017/08/01
incompressible bitstrings Alisa Anthony O'Hear on Popper 2017/07/30
incompressible bitstrings Alisa Anthony O'Hear on Popper 2017/07/30
I've emailed Miller with this material: http://fallibleideas.com/essays/yes-no-argument Hopefully he'll be interested in discussion this time. Elliot Temple 25 Robert Spillane Replies 2017/07/29
Maybe Molyneux doesn't follow bitcoin closely. So he doesn't know about how involved it is with crime and how terrible the technical software details behind bitcoin are. Lots of bitcoin fans really don't know much about it. If he does know much Anonymous Bitcoin Sucks 2017/07/27
Stefan Moleneux takes bitcoins as donation. He likes it. I regretted not buying bitcoin when it was cheap. The Ransomware, child porn, illegal drugs,bitcoin problems I read on the news etc has made me lose all hope for the libertarian currency. FF Bitcoin Sucks 2017/07/27
I accept some things eg: evolution on authority and not by self study. I don't want to do an in depth study of everything. I do google a lot about the subjects I care about though but not deeply enough. I accepted global warming on authority and no FF The Pro-Authority Pledge 2017/07/27
> You'd get more discussion if you used quotes and if you presented your question on fi. Okay i will post my fountainhead questions on FI (with quotes). FF Open Discussion 2017/07/27
#8872 You'd get more discussion if you used quotes and if you presented your question on fi. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/07/27
#8877 > do you mean that you don't *accept* everything authorities say? Yes ff The Pro-Authority Pledge 2017/07/27
#8878 I shouldn't have added the "40%". I should have just asked if my guess was wrong. Then just yes or no answer (with/without explanation) would have been enough. Or I could have just asked the question without my guess. I have seen FI memb FF Open Discussion 2017/07/27
#8875 If somebody answered your question correctly, what would you learn? If nothing, then it's a bad question. Your idea is either wrong or it's not. It's either refuted by one or more criticisms, or it's not. your question is like asking: Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/07/27
@ 8876 Anonymous The Pro-Authority Pledge 2017/07/27
It is a mix of common sense, authority and low level existing knowledge. I don't trust everything the authorities say. FF The Pro-Authority Pledge 2017/07/27
How wrong am I in my guess? 100%? 40%? FF Open Discussion 2017/07/26
2 days after this post: https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-releases/fincen-fines-btc-e-virtual-currency-exchange-110-million-facilitating-ransomware > FinCEN Fines BTC-e Virtual Currency Exchange $110 Million for Facilitating Ransomware, Dark Net Anonymous Bitcoin Sucks 2017/07/26
Kalef's reply is such a non sequitur. It doesn't engage with the specific things Elliot initially said. Anonymous Justin Kalef vs. Paths Forward 2017/07/25
Howard Roark is ready to give up his life for Wynand but not live for him. Why? My guess is that living for someone else causes suffering. Dying is end of suffering. Doing something risking your life is not a big deal compared to living a long lif FF Open Discussion 2017/07/24
Lauren Southern is clueless about bitcoin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1JtJLRuqgo Anonymous Bitcoin Sucks 2017/07/24
> So, DD is saying that his work is just tiny addition to Popper, and you're saying that he's exaggerating how small his addition is? Meaning that you think his addition is more than tiny? yes, DD's epistemology work is more than tiny footnotes. curi David Deutsch = Footnotes to Popper 2017/07/22
So, DD is saying that his work is just tiny addition to Popper, and you're saying that he's exaggerating how small his addition is? Meaning that you think his addition is more than tiny? Why did DD exaggerate? Why not take credit? Afraid of look Anonymous David Deutsch = Footnotes to Popper 2017/07/22
> That is a proposal for action. What if you cannot come up with any proposals that work? see my essays on the matter, e.g. the linked one above and others at http://curi.us/1595-rationally-resolving-conflicts-of-ideas Anonymous Critical Preferences 2017/07/18
James Franklin has very little to say about Popper. You can search for "Popper" in his books on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/What-Science-Knows-How/dp/1594032076/ https://www.amazon.com/Science-Conjecture-Evidence-Probability-before/dp/0801865 Anonymous 25 Robert Spillane Replies 2017/07/18
> Since all possible proposals for actions have been criticised. that's a COMMON situation. you then have to brainstorm new solutions. That is a proposal for action. What if you cannot come up with any proposals that work? Anonymous Critical Preferences 2017/07/18
given some situation, some evidence, some known candidate solutions, etc, etc, there is a right answer (and objective truth) about what you should do about it and what judgement you should reach. if you have exactly one non-refuted theory about wha Anonymous Critical Preferences 2017/07/18
> No, it is not because accepting an idea is to do with whether it is true. A criticism is directed at its truth. That the investigation was not rigorous enough is not a criticism of the proposal. accepting an idea is an action, a human decision. w Anonymous Critical Preferences 2017/07/18
> but doing nothing is not a solution. of course it is. it's an action you can take in regards to a problem. it may solve your problem, or not. > The first scenario is that of accepting a scientific theory. The fact that you have one surviving t Anonymous Critical Preferences 2017/07/18
>and if you don't think the investigation was rigorous enough, that is a criticism of accepting the one idea remaining from the investigation. No, it is not because accepting an idea is to do with whether it is true. A criticism is directed at its Anonymous Critical Preferences 2017/07/18
You added into the discussion that the one surviving solution to the problem. Includes the idea that doing nothi has also been criticised, but doing nothing is not a solution. Now we have to break this down into two different scenarios. The fi Anonymous Critical Preferences 2017/07/18
your new take is maybe you decide some other ideas have survived criticism after all, so we don't have the situation of having exactly one theory which survived criticism (which is the situation we were talking about). i don't get the point. we were t Anonymous Critical Preferences 2017/07/18
David Miller emailed me on July 4, 2011, from his yahoo address, declining a discussion invitation. I still have the email. I replied to his discussion-declining email with a link to Paths Forward and some explanation, and received no reply. http://fa Elliot Temple 25 Robert Spillane Replies 2017/07/18
Hmm, this guy says that Miller is sympathetic but critical. The use of the word critical here, means that he somehow thinks that CR is bad, but it has its merits. But this is wrong. Whether or not you agree with Miller, he is pretty much a full blown John Francis 25 Robert Spillane Replies 2017/07/18
David Miller has never declined a discussion that I have opened with him. In fact, he often gives very detailed emails in reply. John Francis 25 Robert Spillane Replies 2017/07/18
>It does not follow form the investigation that I should accept any of them. This refers to the criticisms of the proposals not to the proposals. Anonymous Critical Preferences 2017/07/18
If there are many proposals including the proposal to do nothing, and all of the proposals have been criticised apart from one. Then you should accept the one that's left, since there are no other proposals that one can accept. But this is false, Anonymous Critical Preferences 2017/07/18
Yeah, looks like he is. Anonymous Trillions of Chickens? 2017/07/18
no idea but maybe DD's right then. Anonymous Trillions of Chickens? 2017/07/18
Opps - you are correct. I selected the wrong range when summing. But I just noticed there is also "meat indigeneous, chicken" as well as "meat, chicken". What's the diff? If both are included then the figure is 1.5 trillion from 1961 to 1997. Anonymous Trillions of Chickens? 2017/07/18
#8846 i think you're using the data wrong. from your FAO link, it's 740 billion from 1961-1997. using all countries, producing animals/slaughtered, and meat, chicken. i downloaded the data, selected the whole column in Numbers, and it says 740 million Anonymous Trillions of Chickens? 2017/07/18
not accepting a theory, T, is itself an action/choice/option. you have a criticism of not accepting T because the premise was that accepting T was the ONLY option/theory/whatever that survived criticism. if only one option survives criticism, there Anonymous Critical Preferences 2017/07/18
if you have no criticism of accepting the statement, and it says you should accept it, then how would it make any sense not to accept it? you have zero objections to accepting it. you seem to just want life and thinking to be arbitrary whim. Anonymous Critical Preferences 2017/07/18
FoR was published in 1998 so a lot of the more recent chickens don't count. (for pub date, wikipedia says 1997, amazon says 1998. i don't know which is correct) Anonymous Trillions of Chickens? 2017/07/18
Let me be more precise in my statement. Just because the statement "you should do x now" has no criticism, does not mean you should accept the statement. That is justificationism. Anonymous Critical Preferences 2017/07/18
#8835 Where did you get your figure? Is it a global average? Which years is it applicable to? I did some research and saw a figure of about 9 to 10 billion chickens born per year in the last decade. That's why I reckoned on about 40%. But I think Anonymous Trillions of Chickens? 2017/07/18
it's not a lesson of CR, it contradicts CR. > it does not follow from something having no criticism that you should do it. call the idea X. it does follow (that you should do X) if X says you should do X (and you have no criticism of X). you curi Critical Preferences 2017/07/18
> no, it's *your* position. it's not CR's position. Err, what? I said it was a lesson of CR. I never spoke about positions. it does not follow from something having no criticism that you should do it. This is just your own proposal and it does Anonymous Critical Preferences 2017/07/18
or if the last surviving idea says you should believe X about Y, and you have no criticism of that (any doubts, hesitations, objections, any reason that'd be a bad idea, any guess that's mistake, any lead that there might be a superior alternative, et curi Critical Preferences 2017/07/18
if the last surviving idea says "you should do X now" and you have no criticism of it, then you should do X now. if the last surviving idea says "you can solve Y problem by Z action", and you have no criticism of that, and you want to solve Y probl curi Critical Preferences 2017/07/18
I think Popper was wrong to suggest that the one that survives the severest criticism should be preferred. All that follows logically, given the premise that our preference is for the truth, is that those that have been criticised should not be prefer Anonymous Critical Preferences 2017/07/18
have you found stats which indicate DD is correct? if so, give a link instead of just calling other ppl wrong. Anonymous Trillions of Chickens? 2017/07/18
That's just the US. Anonymous Trillions of Chickens? 2017/07/18
#1633 > To be honest, I'm not sure that, given my other responsibilities, I would be able to read and digest such a long link between now and when the Sun goes out. I also rather suspect that it is irrelevant to the matter at hand (see below). i Anonymous Popper the New Leftist 2017/07/18
http://m.humanesociety.org/news/resources/research/stats_slaughter_totals.html Maybe 150 billion chickens from 1960-1995. DD looks wrong. Anonymous Trillions of Chickens? 2017/07/17
Look up how many chickens are killed per year. @Anonymous: Chickens are killed at age 5-7 weeks. Anonymous Trillions of Chickens? 2017/07/17
Chicken Stock Info Anonymous Trillions of Chickens? 2017/07/16
It's amazing how foolish one can appear when one judges something without understanding it. Stove illustrates this beautifully. Larry Reply to David Stove on Popper 2017/07/16
Maybe it is also saying to use Textedit on Mac FF Open Files in TextEdit 2017/07/14
I think this is saying " Elliot is currently reading FOR " FF Open Files in TextEdit 2017/07/14
Is this Elliot's book collection? Is this post telling us to read these books? FF Open Files in TextEdit 2017/07/14
criticism is great if you are going for the truth and want your ideas to be ACTUALLY RIGHT. it's much less appreciated if you've accepted a standard of approximately right or sorta in the right ballpark. especially if, at the same time, you want kate The Intellectual Social Game 2017/07/14
> the whole social game approach involves lots of approximation and doing things that are sorta in the right ballpark and hoping no one says anything bad about it. is this why ppl dislike criticism? kate The Intellectual Social Game 2017/07/14
>> Jordan Peterson gave advice about how to study 10+ hours per day. He said you can't do it, don't try, and: >> It is very rare for people to be able to concentrate hard for more than three hours a day. >Justin Mallone Managed to that. "A lot or Anonymous Goals and Status Update 2017/07/13
explain? Anonymous Exclusivity 2017/07/13
Why me? I'm busy. There are lots of coders, including presumably some artists who actually use that website. curi Goals and Status Update 2017/07/13
Completely misunderstands or doesn't acknowledge the point of exclusive relationships. It's talking about romantic relationships as if it's a friendship. Anonymous Exclusivity 2017/07/13
maybe a coding job for you? http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php/328659-Coders-needed-to-solve-the-images-problem pro-criticism art website, a lot of history lost due to this issue. Anonymous Goals and Status Update 2017/07/13
whether something is meta depends on the context. those are usually meta as replies. Anonymous Meta Discussion Isn't Bad 2017/07/13
there's 2 main bottlenecks with watching fast 1) hearing what words are said (and seeing what's going on in the video) 2) understanding it, having time to think enough to follow the concepts for lots of stuff i'm still bottlenecked by (1). i curi Goals and Status Update 2017/07/13
>thinking methodology content, talking about methodological errors people make, talking about error-correcting methods why are these meta? suppose someone writes an essay on error-correcting methods of thinking. is that meta? kate Meta Discussion Isn't Bad 2017/07/13
> I don't just watch a lecture you YouTube, I watch it at triple speed. I only read audio books and use text to speech at high speed. I only watch TV and movies at high speed. If I don't do it fast, it's too boring for me to do it all. This makes it m FF Goals and Status Update 2017/07/13
> Jordan Peterson gave advice about how to study 10+ hours per day. He said you can't do it, don't try, and: > It is very rare for people to be able to concentrate hard for more than three hours a day. Justin Mallone Managed to that. "A lot or FF Goals and Status Update 2017/07/12
> Maybe I'm a "gifted genius prodigy" : ( FF Goals and Status Update 2017/07/12
> Similarly, tons of people complain when sophisticated software costs $5, and think iOS apps should be $1 at most. I am one of those people. That's why I pirate a lot of stuff to prevent myself resenting paying. I buy after I confirm it is a good FF Goals and Status Update 2017/07/12
Correction: gives = giving FF Goals and Status Update 2017/07/12
> I've started selling more material primarily because people, being self-destructively stupid, pay less attention to free material. The Ray Dalio guy has also stopped gives out free knowledge. His site principles.com now has a link to buy a book i FF Goals and Status Update 2017/07/12
Easy and enjoyable to read. I like reading what Intelligent people think and do. Gives me a buzz. FF Goals and Status Update 2017/07/12
yummy? what does that mean? Anonymous Goals and Status Update 2017/07/12
This blogpost was yummy :) FF Goals and Status Update 2017/07/12
GISTE replied agreeing with my analysis! curi The Intellectual Social Game 2017/07/12
> read page 1 of the book. or stop after 1 sentence or 1 paragraph if it’s too hard. then ask a question about what you find hard. then you can make progress instead of giving up. good idea! FF Open Discussion 2017/07/11
> so what? It is not public. I thought I could access it without creating an a/c FF Here Be Dragons – A Bad Approach to Critical Thinking 2017/07/11
> why do black ppl talk differently than others? > is it because they’re jealous? > is it because they want people to know they are proud of being black? I have found this while googling. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American_Verna FF Open Discussion 2017/07/11
so what? Anonymous Here Be Dragons – A Bad Approach to Critical Thinking 2017/07/11
I can't read it without registering. FF Here Be Dragons – A Bad Approach to Critical Thinking 2017/07/11
> or just recruit a bunch of liars who say they want progress! good plan? lol FF Open Discussion 2017/07/11
Is Converting blog posts into audio books better than blitzskimming older blog posts? FF Open Discussion 2017/07/11
what's your point? Anonymous Here Be Dragons – A Bad Approach to Critical Thinking 2017/07/11
The board requires you to be registered and logged in to view this forum. FF Here Be Dragons – A Bad Approach to Critical Thinking 2017/07/11
People who became FI members earlier are unlucky in a way as they did not have the content that Elliot has put out now. Future FI members will have even more content to make learning more fun and easy. FF Open Discussion 2017/07/11
> not if they can understand the issues without reading it all, or come up with any other way of proceeding. Elliot has written reading recommendations and listed chapter numbers too (He hadn't done that before). He might create more essays or gumr FF Open Discussion 2017/07/11
> Does a person need to read all the popper material to bring a discussion to a conclusion? not if they can understand the issues without reading it all, or come up with any other way of proceeding. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/07/11
> i know these ppl will NOT discuss anything to a conclusion Does a person need to read all the popper material to bring a discussion to a conclusion? Will listing out idea changes pre and post discussion enough? FF Open Discussion 2017/07/11
> I guess they would say that doing win/win interactions isn't selfish or greedy. Or they'd say it's impossible. They would include rich people who became rich from the win/win interactions as evil too if they don't pledge to give away 99% of the w FF Greed 2017/07/11
This page has become too long. FF Open Discussion 2017/07/11
Selfish people seem to help better than the selfless people when they do decide to help others Eg: Roark building cheap homes for the poor. FF Greed 2017/07/11
It was a 125 IQ score for Feynman. (i originally said 140 in the post but i'll edit the number now) https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/finding-the-next-einstein/201112/polymath-physicist-richard-feynmans-low-iq-and-finding-another The page giv curi Comments on: Personality or performance?: The case against personality testing in management 2017/07/09
Antifa applaud speech made up of Hitler quotes Alisa Jews 2017/07/09
i thought this post was interesting. i realized I didn't really understand the math of correlations and R-squared and stuff, and wanted to know more so i could understand some parts of the post better. i tried watching a few videos on youtube. most Anonymous Comments on: Personality or performance?: The case against personality testing in management 2017/07/09
hey that's pretty good Anonymous Frozen Comments 2017/07/09
**** ff [Excerpt] Just read an email by someone who thinks 2017/07/09
#1761 > Logically it is hard to defend swimming (or maybe base-jumping) but illogical things are often enjoyable - eating unhealthy food, say. So what if it's "hard"? Dumbass > By holding your position [if indeed that is your position] y Responding to previous Anon Parents As Rulers 2 2017/07/07
wow you replied to a comment that was over 7000 comments ago :D Anonymous Learning By Force 2 2017/07/07
Responding to Anon in #1762 Anonymous Learning By Force 2 2017/07/07
Fine Reader was a big help so I didn't have to type in the quotes. And it has better OCR accuracy than Adobe. https://www.abbyy.com/en-us/finereader/ curi Comments on: Personality or performance?: The case against personality testing in management 2017/07/07
[email protected] ff Fallible Ideas Email: Figuring out what you want from a discussion 2017/07/06
disgusting ff [Excerpt] From [Summercamp](https://www.nickscipio.... 2017/07/06
> Like people who talk about neurons when they can't seem to write a sentence that says what they mean. exactly. that was so blatant. and she was recently told about this very issue and just *ignores advice* and then gets discouraged that people do Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/07/06
Good philosophy by Dan Heisman Alisa Open Discussion 2017/07/06
Ppl who think greed is bad are the same people who think selfishness is bad. They think getting what you want means sacrificing others. They don't conceive of human interaction as win/win, where everybody involved in an interaction are getting what th Anonymous Greed 2017/07/04
Greed is good. FF Greed 2017/07/03
Pixar's *Inside Out* is about how emotions control people. The actual topic of the movie is to present a metaphor with the brain as a control center and various different personified emotions are the characters. you may think it's dumb, but where a Anonymous Moana Review 2017/07/03
shrek quadrilogy, bee movie, megamind, kungfu panda, how to train your dragon, Madagascar etc ff Moana Review 2017/07/03
has fi watched dreamworks movies? ff Moana Review 2017/07/03
finished reading FH ff Open Discussion 2017/07/03
> rape is sexy I remember Elliot saying that one should say " Stop Rape " to make it a rape. Dominique didn't say that. She enjoyed it. FF Open Discussion 2017/07/02
rape is sexy Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/07/02
I searched and found this > it wasn't a rape scene. rape is a violent crime. they flirted and then eventually banged. they like rough sex and roleplay. > Rand understates/underestimates the amount of verbal communication that it takes for people FF Open Discussion 2017/07/02
Did I say something wrong? FF Open Discussion 2017/07/02
Why did the jury let Howard Roark go unpunished? Can the minds of the people be changed so quickly with just one speech? FF Open Discussion 2017/07/02
> “I think I should have understood. You married Peter Keating. Right after the Stoddard trial.” “Do you wish to know everything? I want to tell you. I met him when he was working in a granite quarry. Why not? You’ll put him in a chain gang no ff Open Discussion 2017/07/02
http://robertspillane.info/2010/05/02/szaszs-the-meaning-of-mind/ i liked this review and left the following comment (which is in moderation, and the newest blog post is nearly 2 years old so it may never appear): good post. it's nice to see an curi Open Discussion 2017/07/01
Dominique had different ideas earlier in the book, and Roark had a less clear life situation. if he does things his way AND WINS (therefore he gains a position in society), combined with Dominique figuring some things out, then he'll get her. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/07/01
> “He’s risking everything he has to save you. He doesn’t know he’ll lose me if you’re saved.” why would wynand lose dominique if roark is saved? roark was a free man before the demolition why didn't wynand lose her then? ff Open Discussion 2017/07/01
> amazon says the print length of FH is 752 pages. so you're showing 80% of a print page per phone page. that's actually most of it. you must be using a small font. The font size, portrait mode and the size of my phone changed the number of pages t FF Open Discussion 2017/06/30
it's that or your software is showing print page numbers which don't always increase when you turn the page. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/06/30
amazon says the print length of FH is 752 pages. so you're showing 80% of a print page per phone page. that's actually most of it. you must be using a small font. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/06/30
Rami said " Quoting Elliot does not necessarily mean talking to him. You could quote Elliot and talk to others about the quote " I hope I won't get banned. FF Open Discussion 2017/06/30
oops I replied to Elliot's reply by mistake. Please don't ban me. FF Open Discussion 2017/06/30
I have finished 797 pages out of 935 pages of fountainhead. 138 pages left (The pages are tiny and numerous on my phone) FF Open Discussion 2017/06/30
> the really bad problems are the ones with no end to them, which take over your whole life, which have nothing to keep them under control Like Peter Keating's problems? FF Open Discussion 2017/06/30
you should stop. Anonymous Abortion and Planned Parenthood 2017/06/29
Anti-semitism on college campuses Alisa Jews 2017/06/29
Was Margaret Sanger racist? Alisa Abortion and Planned Parenthood 2017/06/29
things can suck a little. but fundamentally his life is ok. he's not broken, he's not despairing, it's just limited, bounded inconveniences. the really bad problems are the ones with no end to them, which take over your whole life, which have nothing curi Open Discussion 2017/06/29
roark feels pain only upto a certain point. what does that mean? ff Open Discussion 2017/06/29
the DTN article says e.g.: > Also in 1939, Sanger turned her attention specifically to the reproductive practices of **black** Americans. (emphasis added. and read the whole paragraph that comes from, or maybe even the whole page, before you dem Anonymous Abortion and Planned Parenthood 2017/06/28
Sanger wrote an essay, "We Must Breed a Race of Thoroughbreds" She openly talked about doing her eugenics by **race**. She spoke at a KKK meeting. Her colleagues said lots of nasty, racist stuff too. You could easily have found info about this i Anonymous Abortion and Planned Parenthood 2017/06/28
Was Margaret Sanger racist? Alisa Abortion and Planned Parenthood 2017/06/28
The title fooled me. I was like " yay Ayn Rand movie " with 80% Rotten Tomatoes (which is a good rating) and downloaded the torrent. I skimmed a little and did not like what I saw and started googling. I did not know it was based on a book by a detrac FF Open Discussion 2017/06/28
and there are rebuttals like: https://www.amazon.com/Passion-Ayn-Rands-Critics-Brandens/dp/1930754671 > The Passion of Ayn Rand's Critics: The Case Against the Brandens (i don't know how good that rebuttal is.) be aware also that 1) Ran Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/06/28
FYI it's a book too. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/06/28
oops.. I googled a bit. It seems to be a anti-rand movie. FF Open Discussion 2017/06/28
I am planning on watching " The Passion of Ayn Rand " Hellen Mirren movie. Has anyone on FI watched it? Is it good/bad? FF Open Discussion 2017/06/27
He knows Sazasz Anonymous Stop Saying Lies and Other People's Ideas 2017/06/27
Theodore Dalrymple on Feminism & Islam Alisa Open Discussion 2017/06/25
Theodore Dalrymple on Political Correctness Alisa Open Discussion 2017/06/25
group projects are often full of compromises, people who aren't useful, and a bunch of extra work trying to argue with the other guys. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/06/24
i don't imagine faces when i read. i think about the ideas. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/06/24
> “You wish to reject an opportunity like this, a spot in history, a chance of world fame, practically a chance of immortality ...” “I don’t work with collectives. I don’t consult, I don’t co-operate, I don’t collaborate.” why doesn ff Open Discussion 2017/06/24
I imagine Gary Cooper as Howard Roark in my mind. What kind of face do FI members imagine while reading? FF Open Discussion 2017/06/24
Why do Roark & Wynand want to own Dominique? do they not believe in ARR? FF Open Discussion 2017/06/24
> do you like ALL of Gail Wynand? he has good parts. I don't like some parts of him. I don't like that he enjoys destroying good people with integrity. I like that he has power to do anything and isn't losing (Currently) like Roark. FF Open Discussion 2017/06/24
do you like ALL of Gail Wynand? he has good parts. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/06/23
How do I persuade myself to not like Gail Wynand? FF Open Discussion 2017/06/23
" a " audio quality is bad. FF Open Discussion 2017/06/23
humans are powerful b is good. "a" sounds bad. FF Open Discussion 2017/06/23
Why not "People of Whiteness"? Alisa Open Discussion 2017/06/23
do fi members like Frank Lloyd Wright's buildings? ff Open Discussion 2017/06/23
> like how could somebody say the words "i want to fool myself" to himself? you don't have to say those words to yourself to do it. you don't have to think clearly about what you're doing or why. you don't have to understand yourself. it's possi curi What Philosophy Takes 2017/06/22
Scientific Cuddles vs. Criticism Alisa Open Discussion 2017/06/22
this reminds me of something. a christian was telling me about a particular criticism of he knows about why he believes in christianity. he believes in christianity, at least partly, because he doesn't believe that some things that happened in his same Anon as above What Philosophy Takes 2017/06/22
how could somebody want to fool themselves? like how could somebody say the words "i want to fool myself" to himself? Anonymous What Philosophy Takes 2017/06/22
if HB just wanted to protect his HBL income, but also wanted to think, he would have started discussing the issues offsite. but he didn't. Anonymous Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2017/06/16
Aristotle was also big on definitions. Good to appreciate precision. But major bad aspect remains today. Essences stuff also bad. Anonymous Aristotle (and Peikoff and Popper) 2017/06/16
> "Frankly, Mr. Wynand, I didn't think my word would carry much weight > with you. So I didn't intend trying to sell you Peter Keating." "No? > What did you intend?" "Only to ask that you give half an hour of your > time to someone who can convince FF Open Discussion 2017/06/15
> what if you just find problems, and don't have any ideas on how to improve them and make your life better? ask for ideas. > what if you don't value anything highly? look around. find stuff. consider stuff. try stuff. see what you like some Anonymous Valuing Criticism 2017/06/13
> It helps to value something highly. what if you don't value anything highly? or you don't know what you value? Anonymous Valuing Criticism 2017/06/13
>It helps to conceptualize "find faults" as "find opportunities for improvement" this only works if you actually have some confidence that you can actually improve. what if you don't think you will be able to improve? what if you just find prob Anonymous Valuing Criticism 2017/06/13
Is my Discord Ban still active? (Asking Justin, Rami & others) FF Open Discussion 2017/06/12
i love churchill Anonymous Churchill and Roosevelt Betrayed Hundreds of Thousands to Death 2017/06/12
Vast literatures as mud moats & the "two paper rule" Alisa Open Discussion 2017/06/12
Ray Dalio on learning from discussion Alisa Open Discussion 2017/06/12
yes that's bad Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/06/11
Is it bad that I like Elsworth Toohey as a kid? He seems like a very good kid. FF Open Discussion 2017/06/11
👬👯👨‍👩‍👧👨‍👩‍👧‍👦👬👬 FF Memes I 2017/06/11
*italics* are now red in posts and comments. links are now red *and* underlined to differentiate them. motivation: i want italics to stand out more, be more visible. i think bold is visible enough without a color change but italic is too subtle. curi Open Discussion 2017/06/10
My one month FI ban is over. (Message to FI members & admins but not to E.T) I will be posting here from now. Please don't think my posts are for Elliot. (I will be banned again if I contact Elliot) FF Open Discussion 2017/06/08
Horrifying. And Churchill was pretty aware of the Soviet Union's evil nature, which makes this even more inexcusable for him Anonymous Churchill and Roosevelt Betrayed Hundreds of Thousands to Death 2017/06/06
*differences in people's IQ can be explained Alisa Teachable Subjects 2017/06/03
Taught? Alisa Teachable Subjects 2017/06/03
Jordan Peterson on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/615e3z/i_am_dr_jordan_b_peterson_u_of_t_professor/dfbv5sh/ > Go see a mental health professional. Don't delay. There are effective treatments for such conditions. Anti-depressants curi Letter to Jordan Peterson on Antidepressants and Rational Discussion 2017/06/03
> i'd rather not do that. you'd rather not do what? > if you don't think it's beneficial for you, i'm open to considering making it beneficial enough with cash. no i don't want to write tons of stuff, for you personally, for free. i posted curi Teachable Subjects 2017/06/03
http://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/Intelligence-and-socioeconomic-success-A-meta-analytic-review-of-longitudinal-research.pdf > The relationship between intelligence and socioeconomic success has been the source of numerous controversie curi Teachable Subjects 2017/06/03
> What I was taught (wrong!) was basically to presume a claim is false until it's proven true. That's a *partial* method, not a full method. I don't think it actually addresses the hard part of figuring out what's true or not. In other words, I don curi Teachable Subjects 2017/06/03
I think Peterson's comment on "schizophrenia" was bad. He doesn't know his Szasz. I knew this already, see e.g. [my letter to him about antidepressants](http://curi.us/1970-letter-to-jordan-peterson-on-antidepressants-and-rational-discussion). "Sch curi Stop Saying Lies and Other People's Ideas 2017/06/03
Taught? PAS Teachable Subjects 2017/06/03
> how to figure out if an argument is true or false I got taught some (wrong) stuff about this in school. I remember it cuz it contradicted faith which I was taught at home. What I was taught (wrong!) was basically to presume a claim is false un PAS Teachable Subjects 2017/06/03
> plz reply if you think you were taught any of the unteachables, or know how they're taught. or have more to add to the list. or know something about what the difference is. or have experiences about trying to learn the basics to share. or have insig GISTE Teachable Subjects 2017/06/03
> how to read sentences that don't not have double, triple or quadruple negatives. lol i didn't catch it right away. i read it 2 times before i was like "OH DOUBLE NEGATIVE!" Anonymous Teachable Subjects 2017/06/03
> I couldn’t understand what to make of this. I knew the source of the commentary was part of me – I wasn’t schizophrenic what the fuck is this? so if someone is "schizophrenic" some stuff he says is not part of him? is that what Peterson Anonymous Stop Saying Lies and Other People's Ideas 2017/06/03
> Arguments involve reasoning from PREMISES to a CONCLUSION. those are called "syllogisms", i mentioned them. > And it had advice like "break up a big problem into smaller problems and solve the small problems" which probably seems very obvious Anonymous Teachable Subjects 2017/06/02
>by contrast, i cannot remember anyone ever teaching me: [...] >how to figure out if an argument is true or false >what an argument IS (and how to decide if X is an argument for Y) i did some logic stuff in a class. stuff in the nature Anonymous Teachable Subjects 2017/06/02
plz reply if you think you were taught any of the unteachables, or know how they're taught. or have more to add to the list. or know something about what the difference is. or have experiences about trying to learn the basics to share. or have insight curi Teachable Subjects 2017/06/02
reddit discussion of this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/6ea3tc/my_letter_to_jordan_peterson_on_antidepressants/ curi Letter to Jordan Peterson on Antidepressants and Rational Discussion 2017/05/30
A lot of universities are having big problems. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j9nFced_eo Anonymous Public University Bigotry 2017/05/30
I was unable to download the 3 hours of Rethinking Depression episodes, or speed them up in my browser. So I bought Audio Hijack which can record any audio your computer plays. Then I played in VLC at higher speed! Audio Hijack is awesome. It was v curi Letter to Jordan Peterson on Antidepressants and Rational Discussion 2017/05/30
i've read that the default heatsink and fan that come with a CPU are bad Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/30
>i think you need a CPU fan the CPU comes with a fan >and i have no idea if you need a case fan this guide recommends a minimum of 3 fans and the case i am planning on getting comes with 2 http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/692-how-many-cas Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/30
i think you need a CPU fan and i have no idea if you need a case fan Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/30
i want a computer for gaming. does this seem good? i want to get 144 fps in games, with low settings. or get 60 fps with higher settings https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/7gtgcc Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/30
Interesting take on feminism curi Open Discussion 2017/05/29
Atheist community rely on a thing called Burden of Proof. Which is the positive claim that any positive claim has a burden of proof that needs to be met to be taken seriously. Strange then that lots of these people tiake the BoP seriously, Anonymous [Excerpt] Here's a good demonstration that asking... 2017/05/29
anti-socialism kills people Democratic Socialism FTW! Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/29
> so is it fine if i mess up commas and periods? does it matter much? ppl can usually read stuff with no or wrong commas. unless it's a list. lists without commas are tough. look at this: > I like Ayn Rand Karl Popper William Godwin Thomas Szasz curi Open Discussion 2017/05/28
>> i don't know where to put the commas and periods. >commas are small pauses and periods are big pauses. so is it fine if i mess up commas and periods? does it matter much? Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/28
> >can you write IMs? > yeah, i'm pretty sure i can you can write an FI post the same as a few IMs in a row. > i just want to be able to write clearly to FI. and not have people have to ask what i mean all the time. try it. and if you get curi Open Discussion 2017/05/28
>why do you need to write proper sentences and paragraphs? i want to be able to write clearly. sometimes when i write it is just a mash of words that is hard understand. this isn't just a problem with writing. i also have the same problem with Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/28
#8681 why do you need to write proper sentences and paragraphs? can you write IMs? can you write how you talk outloud? can you keep it simple? long sentences are bad. just don't write them. the writing in your comment is pretty good. the s curi Open Discussion 2017/05/28
I don't like to write FI emails because I don't know how to write sentences and paragraphs properly. Sometimes I have trouble figuring out how to say my thoughts in a way that people can understand. I have trouble writing long sentences. But there are Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/28
Curi - What you suggest is reasonable. I said I am here to learn stuff and I could be wrong. SOL Open Discussion 2017/05/28
LOL thought anon actually got me banned for a moment. SOL Open Discussion 2017/05/28
SOL, your latest comment didn't post due a bug. You can repost it. If you don't have a copy, you can email me and I can provide it. And if you want to argue "fuck you" is about rape, could you link e.g. 3 educational web pages explaining this im curi Open Discussion 2017/05/28
Elliot, wtf, I thought Leo was banned. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/27
jfc Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/27
> SOL, why are you here? cuz i learn stuff. like when Alisa brought up the idea of “crimestop" i learnt that idea right then and there. then I was curious about it and went off and read “1984” for the first time. from that i learnt the “bla SOL Open Discussion 2017/05/27
> and in context it meant "go to hell for trying to deny the reality of what i wrote." So it was condemning willful misinterpretation/evasion. Liar. You were bullying. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/26
SOL, why are you here? What, if anything, do you like about FI? Do we have some common ground? Is there anything positive you want to talk about? Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/26
> you realize "fuck you" has nothing to do with rape? Yes, it does. > it's more like "go to hell." Rationalisation for trying to pretend what you are saying is not as bad as it is. > and in context it meant "go to hell for trying to deny SOL Open Discussion 2017/05/26
wtf? Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/26
> SOL, absurd rape-related allegations are a serious matter. They're not OK. You're trivializing rape, trying to smear someone as a violent criminal, and attempting to start a witch hunt. no I'm not trivilalizing rape. you are. in the context, "fuc SOL Open Discussion 2017/05/26
> SOL, absurd rape-related allegations are a serious matter. They're not OK. You're trivializing rape, trying to smear someone as a violent criminal, and attempting to start a witch hunt. when someone says "fuck you" how should I read it? what is t SOL Open Discussion 2017/05/26
> you interrogated Alisa instead of discussing the issue. at length. interrogate: “Ask questions of (someone) closely, aggressively, or formally.” you're suggesting I'm aggressive. you're a lying trouble-maker. SOL Open Discussion 2017/05/26
SOL, absurd rape-related allegations are a serious matter. They're not OK. You're trivializing rape, trying to smear someone as a violent criminal, and attempting to start a witch hunt. Take a break for a few days to calm down. Then never post h curi Open Discussion 2017/05/26
>> exaggeration about the amount. > no, i meant what i said. fuck you. you escalate to "fuck you" just like that. seriously, you want to rape me for not agreeing? SOL Open Discussion 2017/05/26
> Alisa brought up the issue of "crimestop" then doesn't want to discuss. you interrogated Alisa instead of discussing the issue. at length. Alisa was extraordinarily patient and responsive. you controlled the conversation and ran it into the groun Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/26
> exaggeration about the amount. no, i meant what i said. fuck you. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/26
> sooo much parochial he-said/she-said meta discussion! exaggeration about the amount. there is a problem here. Alisa brought up the issue of "crimestop" then doesn't want to discuss. she's avoiding my questions about it. like I asked if she discu SOL Open Discussion 2017/05/26
sooo much parochial he-said/she-said meta discussion! https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/fallible-ideas/conversations/messages/20939 Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/25
> I said that in response to your request for an example where I do crimestop myself. You still didn't answer the question. The answer was: > So I think I had the wrong idea about how helpful you were prepared to be and misjudged the context. SOL Open Discussion 2017/05/25
>> Then why didn't you ask for that? > You said to look through your FI-list discussions with Elliot. I said that in response to your request for an example where I do crimestop myself. You still didn't answer the question. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/25
> Then why didn't you ask for that? You said to look through your FI-list discussions with Elliot. That is not to give an example but to say in a vague way how to *find* an example. If the examples on the list are clearly identified then no problem SOL Open Discussion 2017/05/25
> I was expecting posts which had an example where you crimestopped and someone identified and discussed that problem Then why didn't you ask for that? Alisa Open Discussion 2017/05/24
> How is that relevant? You asked me for examples of when I *do* crimestop myself, not for posts where I discuss it. I was expecting posts which had an example where you crimestopped and someone identified and discussed that problem. Have you discu Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/24
That should be, "... not for examples of me discussing it." Alisa Open Discussion 2017/05/24
>>>> Do you ever do crimestop yourself? >>>> Yes. >>> can you give an example? >> Look through my FI-list discussions with Elliot. > I searched with the keyword "crimestop". Nothing turned up. How is that relevant? You asked me for exa Alisa Open Discussion 2017/05/24
> Look through my FI-list discussions with Elliot. I searched with the keyword "crimestop". Nothing turned up. Given you introduced the term here I didn't expect it to. I'm guessing the idea gets discussed but not named as such in threads about ant SOL Open Discussion 2017/05/24
1. A leftist tried to murder anti-Jihad scholar Robert Spencer: http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/266719/icelandic-leftist-poisons-robert-spencer-robert-spencer 2. Evil Georgetown professor harasses alt-right guy at gym and gets his gym membersh Unmysterious J Open Discussion 2017/05/24
>>> Do you ever do crimestop yourself? >> Yes. > can you give an example? Look through my FI-list discussions with Elliot. > so a simple argument that would not present a problem in convo with you presents a problem in convo with Elliot Te Alisa Open Discussion 2017/05/24
>> What's an example of a pretty conventional idea you hold? > That humans are smaller than elephants. pretty conventional. to hold the opposite you would be “crazy”. >> What's an example of an idea in that spectrum where people disagree SOL Open Discussion 2017/05/24
> What's an example of a pretty conventional idea you hold? That humans are smaller than elephants. > What's an example of an idea in that spectrum where people disagree with you? That the Warriors are better than the Spurs. > Do you ever Alisa Open Discussion 2017/05/23
> - Most of my ideas are pretty conventional. What's an example of a pretty conventional idea you hold? > Even when people disagree with me, my ideas are within the spectrum of things they are prepared to think about. What's an example of a SOL Open Discussion 2017/05/23
Rather, the parents have failed to help you learn about responsibility and how to get your own money. oh my god it's turpentine Taking Children Seriously 2017/05/23
If you have reached 30 without being able to support yourself, your parents' main failure didn't have much to do with providing money. oh my god it's turpentine Taking Children Seriously 2017/05/23
> An adult Spanish woman who sued her divorced dad for a €500 allowance in 2015 was one of several test cases which had the effect of deepening parental responsibilities in the nation, which has the second highest rate of youth unemployment in Europ Alisa Taking Children Seriously 2017/05/23
Spanish Gen Y-ers are suing their parents for financial support Alisa Taking Children Seriously 2017/05/23
- Most of my ideas are pretty conventional. Even when people disagree with me, my ideas are within the spectrum of things they are prepared to think about. My position wouldn't be considered thoughtcrime by them, so they don't need to engage in crimes Alisa Open Discussion 2017/05/23
Why? SOL Open Discussion 2017/05/22
Crimestop Alisa Open Discussion 2017/05/22
> "Crimestop" - a good word for a way of thinking people commonly exhibit when discussing things with Elliot Temple. And with you? SOL Open Discussion 2017/05/22
> i haven't researched that. why? SOL By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/22
> "Crimestop" - a good word for a way of thinking people commonly exhibit when discussing things with Elliot Temple. i agree :( curi Open Discussion 2017/05/22
Crimestop Alisa Open Discussion 2017/05/22
>> i think the idea of islam is responsible for more deaths than the idea of socialism. > Are you claiming then that Islam is more dangerous? If so, what's the explanation for that? i think that islam wouldn't be very dangerous without non-musli Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/22
> i think the idea of islam is responsible for more deaths than the idea of socialism. Are you claiming then that Islam is more dangerous? If so, what's the explanation for that? for the Islam deaths figure you quoted there is a lot of estimatio SOL By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/22
>>> the idea of socialism survives and keeps coming back. it is responsible for more deaths than any other idea in history. >> how many people died due to socialism? >> how many people died due to Islam? > What problem are you trying to solve Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/22
> Do you know why you are scared of criticism? not really. I can offer some guesses. like maybe i have some image of myself and i’ll find out i’m not living up to that image and feel bad about myself or something. or maybe part of me is scared SOL By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/22
> how many people died due to socialism? > how many people died due to Islam? What problem are you trying to solve? SOL By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/22
> why did you say "fucking"? maybe you're disgusted of it? hate it? i don’t think i get disgusted at myself or hate parts of myself. maybe i’m wrong? wrote i wrote sounds like part of me in contempt of another part of me. > it would help to SOL By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/22
Typo #8616 SOL By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/21
Hey anon debating Islam and socialism you are answering as though you are me and confusing ppl. my last comment was #.8616. I'm signing as SOL from now on. SOL By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/21
i don't see how 2.5% tithes compare to not having private property. just because a religion has some collectivist elements and a price above 0 doesn't make it socialism. you haven't identified what the major, important attributes of socialism or Islam Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/21
Islam's control is more religious/ideological than wealth-based. Socialism isn't just any form of collectivism. It's a specific thing. Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/21
>> Islam is a type of socialism. > explain Socialism is a system where the individual is controlled by the collective by controlling wealth. Islam is a system where the individual is controlled by the collective too. What is controlled? Wealt Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/21
>me being scared of criticism is fucking stupid. I need to resolve that problem. Do you know why you are scared of criticism? Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/21
> Islam is a type of socialism. explain Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/21
> the idea of socialism survives and keeps coming back. it is responsible for more deaths than any other idea in history. Islam is a type of socialism. So do you count the deaths from islam as deaths from socialism ? Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/21
Is your apartment building up to Earthquake code? Is your street safe from liquifaction? Are you in a tsunami zone? Do you have a good plan for the big one? I used to not worry too much about these things until two massimother fuckers struck close to Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/21
> the idea of socialism survives and keeps coming back. it is responsible for more deaths than any other idea in history. how many people died due to socialism? how many people died due to Islam? Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/21
> me being scared of criticism is fucking stupid. I need to resolve that problem. why did you say "fucking"? maybe you're disgusted of it? hate it? it would help to change that disgust/hate to curiosity. Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/21
Sorry phone glitch Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/21
question to FI people: you guys are rea Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/21
similarly all modes of reasoning other than the Popperian one are authoritarian and incompatible with freedom *in all cases*. Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/21
> also tons of them don't understand capitalism. and don't understand that socialism is authoritarian and incompatible with freedom *in all cases* (rather than just sucks in some cases but it could work if you got the details right with enough voting Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/21
> so like millions of Ayn Rand readers think she's into induction and not falllibility? yes. also tons of them don't understand capitalism. and don't understand that socialism is authoritarian and incompatible with freedom *in all cases* (rather th curi By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/21
so like millions of Ayn Rand readers think she's into induction and not falllibility? The only error correction I did was thinking about it in my own mind and I know that is a bad path forward. Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/21
me being scared of criticism is fucking stupid. I need to resolve that problem. Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/21
revising my sentence above to: > i often cut off communication with people cuz i get bored or am preoccupied with something else or am scared of criticism or can't be bothered replying or something i missed something important didn't I? That'll Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/20
> you're reading what I wrote too literally? you seem to be blaming me for replying to what you wrote instead of what you meant. it would have been better if you replied to what i wrote more literally. i asked 4 questions and you didn't give dir curi By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/20
I know knowledge comes in degrees. you're reading what I wrote too literally? my post says i'm shit at paths forward and concludes I don't really know it very well at all. I think I know some stuff about it cuz I've read the blog post here, FI posts, Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/20
> my problem is living by it. example: i know "paths forward" but how good at it am I? why do you think you know it? what have you done to test that claim? and knowledge of paths forward comes in degrees. not just you do or don't know it. maybe curi By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/20
> so why don't you learn philosophy? my problem is living by it. example: i know "paths forward" but how good at it am I? shit. like i don't post to FI list. i read philosophical stuff but don't test my understanding by posting about it. i tend to Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/20
KIC 8462852 is undergoing another dip. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/20
> Be more careful in future. related: http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/266719/icelandic-leftist-poisons-robert-spencer-robert-spencer Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/20
so why don't you learn philosophy? Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/19
it was a joke. a generic true answer to the question "why are you not good enough at philosophy" is "because I am not good enough at philosophy". learning philosophy makes one better at learning philosophy. Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/19
#8601 so? that is a non-answer Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/19
>> No, I am not good enough at philosophy, > why not? I love recursion lol. Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/19
> No, I am not good enough at philosophy, why not? Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/19
No, I am not good enough at philosophy, Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/18
> Trying to spread good philosophical ideas in the culture in an easy to access way have you done any of this? curi By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/18
> how to fix? The problem is very difficult. Their need to impress and to lean on authority is so ingrained that solving the problem is tantamount to taking apart their mind and reassembling it. The only real hope is finding people whose minds Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/18
This is very eye opening and frightening. We need to be more vigilant and protect ourselves and our children. Very well written. Thank you Elliot Temple and Justin Mallone. Isabella Svott By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/18
#8593 will you link some examples? Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/18
@#8593 ☹️ how to fix? Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/18
They wrote to impress, which caused criticism they did not want, then doubled-down on their mistake. Doubling-down happens so often. Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/18
> They want to protect themselves from criticism. But it *causes* criticism. They try to protect themselves from conventional false criticisms instead of typical true criticisms that would be posted to FI. Doesn't make much sense... Similarly Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/18
> People in general put lots of work into trying to sound smart. even dumb, unimpressive people. like if you look at FI posts, you can see some posters ask short, simple questions. and then other posters are always writing something more complicated. Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/18
I was going to add a comment to say remove my comment but see you have already done that. Be more careful in future. Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/15
Popper advocated simple writing. He just wasn't great at it. He did better than most of his colleagues. He came from Austria and and had to learn both English and also the writing style of the English-speaking world (which is different and better than curi By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/15
[Comment removed by Elliot Temple. I think anon meant well but I still don't want to leave information about how to find my location in comments here.] Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/15
> Popper is a pretty bad liberal, he's just good on epistemology. He was for TV censorship and government doing various stuff. He never wrote good things about capitalism. What an arse. He would have been anti-Trump had he been alive now. Even in h Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/14
Popper is a pretty bad liberal, he's just good on epistemology. He was for TV censorship and government doing various stuff. He never wrote good things about capitalism. Good liberals are people like Mises and Rand. Popper's politics was nothing li curi By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/13
> ppl take bits of liberalism and bring them up when it favors some conclusion they want. it's very biased. they'll use a little liberalism here and there to serve their purposes, but they won't be consistent, principled liberals. Yes. Freire was a Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/13
Simon's other video on BAMN has more good info: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf5QKM81Z14 Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/13
Nice video, Simon. I like clips you mix in. Good points about how the Sacramento violence was an intentional, planned tactic! Elliot Temple By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/13
By Any Means Necessary? No! Let's Bring Down BAMN By The Peaceful Legal Means Necessary Simon Harris By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/13
> Some of this sounds superficially like things TCS would say. it's got some liberalism and anti-authority stuff. ppl take bits of liberalism and bring them up when it favors some conclusion they want. it's very biased. they'll use a little libe Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/12
> It’s very scary that Marxism and Critical Pedagogy are so mainstream in American schools. How is this stuff so popular? Almost everyone is a socialist. The schools are controlled by the left. People don't like Ayn Rand. People are tort Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/12
Banking concept of education in "Pedagogy of the Oppressed": http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon2/pedagogy/pedagogychapter2.html > In the banking concept of education, knowledge is a gift bestowed by those who consider themselves knowledgeabl Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/12
Antonia Darder, who wrote “The Critical Pedagogy Reader” admires Paulo Freire. He wrote “The Pedagogy of the Oppressed”: http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon2/pedagogy/index.html In this book, Che Guevera is spoken highly of. Eg: > Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/12
Justin Kalef again Alisa Open Discussion 2017/05/12
Bill Ayers the Weather Underground terrorist embraced and wrote about Critical Pedagogy. Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/11
It's not surprising people like Felarca can be found teaching in schools. After all, dreadful Marxist books like "The Critical Pedagogy Reader" are popular at teaching colleges. "Critical Pedagogy" used to be fringe stuff. Now mainstream. Anonymous By Any Means Necessary: A Violent Marxist Cult 2017/05/11
> Griffiths has resigned after all this. :( damn. he wrote some good stuff. approximately(?) all the universities are so fucked up now. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/10
"Everything is Problematic" Alisa Open Discussion 2017/05/10
Paul Griffiths on totalitarian "diversity training" Alisa Open Discussion 2017/05/10
Guessing that Einstein was shit at paths forward. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/09
Popper is terrible on capitalism too so... I'm sure Einstein ran into capitalist ideas a little bit. Popper must have known about Mises via Hayek and meeting him at Mount Pelerin. But people really really hate freedom so... Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/08
Albert Einstein sucks https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/ > I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/08
Leiter appears to have blocked my comment talking about qualities of good forums and asking if Justin knew of any. There's no notification of it being blocked, just nothing happens, it doesn't show up, and someone else's comment was approved in the sa curi Open Discussion 2017/05/08
Circumcision is super bad J Open Discussion 2017/05/08
"In Defense of Transracialism" by Rebecca Tuvel Alisa Open Discussion 2017/05/08
> 41. See id. Leiter’s analysis includes all attorneys hired at these firms, whether they were nonpartnership-track counsel who graduated in the early 1990s, senior partners who graduated in the 1960s, or first-year associates who graduated in 2002. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/08
> 16. See id. Leiter states that “[w]ithout a doubt, two of the measures used in calculating the overall rank are sensitive to the number of graduates” and concedes that this favors large schools such as Georgetown. Id. It is unclear why Leiter ch Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/08
> 15. See id. Exclusively using the 2003 edition of Vault’s guide to determine which employers are elite may be misleading. Even if one assumes that regional Vault rank perfectly correlates with regional firm prestige, one must remember that Leiter Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/08
Because the xoxo criticism of Leiter is no longer up and only available from archive.org, I mirrored it: http://curi.us/files/ciolli.final.pdf curi Open Discussion 2017/05/08
http://web.archive.org/web/20070127161049/http://www.autoadmit.com:80/studies/ciolli/ > Several individuals have responded to U.S. News’s deficiencies by creating their own noncommercial employment rankings,12 but these too suffer from serious de Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/08
Brian Leiter, the blog owner, is a bad dude. See e.g. http://www.autoadmit.com/leiter.html and the linked "tirade" (he hates autoadmit). But note the quotes from Alisa are from a blog commenter, not Leiter. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/05/08
Thanks Alisa. I wrote a reply which is pending moderation: http://leiterreports.typepad.com/blog/2017/05/a-thread-for-further-comments-on-the-misconduct-by-the-hypatia-editors-and-the-defamation-of-prof-tu.html#comment-6a00d8341c2e6353ef01bb099927e curi Open Discussion 2017/05/08
Justin Kalef's list of features essential for a philosophical discussion Alisa Open Discussion 2017/05/08
Plus I told you not to contact me for a year minimum, and this comment was obviously directed at contacting me rather than being general discussion. The year starts over after your month ban. curi Open Discussion 2017/05/07
You were only allowed to post here as FF. You're banned for a month from everything. Don't test the ban. I'm not going to do anything now, but if you post again then I'll go permanently ban you with the same software that bans Leonor. curi Open Discussion 2017/05/07
> if you make a new account to evade your discord ban again, you will be permanently banned from everything the same as leonor. You could have not banned me and ignored my initial replies. I would have agreed on not outing. ( as if I have intereste BANNED PERSON Open Discussion 2017/05/07
What do you think of Richard Stallman? I liked his views on Piracy, copyright & Freedom but he is a Bernie Supporter & a SJW :-( FF Open Discussion 2017/05/04
pressuring people to be pretty is mean pressuring people not to put much effort into being pretty, even though they are supposed to be pretty, is mean pressuring people to hide the effort they put into being pretty is mean pressuring people t curi Cosplay and Effortful Appearances 2017/04/25
What's mean about the social dynamics of cosplay? I know you think social dynamics in general contain tons of meanness. Did you have something more specific than that in mind? Anonymous Cosplay and Effortful Appearances 2017/04/25
Deceptive, dishonest NYT reporting on left-wing violence at Alisa Open Discussion 2017/04/22
> People do take k-12 schooling largely for granted today though there are some dissidents---free schools, unschooling, home schooling, truancy... truants generally don't dispute the legitimacy of k-12 schooling. like thieves don't generally dis Anonymous Compulsory Government Education 2017/04/20
> I'm not sure what the point of that essay was what essay does "that essay" refer to? Anonymous Compulsory Government Education 2017/04/20
This is a free speech zone (or TAZ---temporary autonomous zone)( ishi Compulsory Government Education 2017/04/20
He calls himself libertarian though. FF Open Discussion 2017/04/17
He should join FI. FF Open Discussion 2017/04/17
I just found out Jimmy Wales (Wikipedia Co-founder) is a self-avowed Objectivist, "Referring to the philosophy invented by writer Ayn Rand in the mid-20th century that emphasizes reason, individualism, and capitalism. Wales first encountered the p FF Open Discussion 2017/04/17
Doc: I want you to imagine that you're living on a city block okay on this block there's a red house a greenhouse a blue house and a white house sure red man lives in the red house the green man lives in the greenhouse and the blue man lives the blue FF Health Insurance and Psychiatry 2017/04/14
psychiatric tests reminded me of this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc86ZXFsriM FF Health Insurance and Psychiatry 2017/04/14
Why should missile strikes be proportional? The goal ought to be effective defense, not what's proportional. curi Open Discussion 2017/04/10
CTMU C.M.Langan Explaining Infinite Sets, Measures, and Mappings for Quantum Physics 2017/04/10
#8537 underselling a favorite thing like that is very conventional social lying, so people just ignore the "it's not that good" lying. if you're sharing it you think it's good enough to share and they know that. Anonymous Don't Bring Up Your Own Negatives 2017/04/05
Its strange how people choose to focus only on the bad stuff after you reveal it. Maybe it is their dumb defense system that looks for bad stuff and once it sees it ignores all the good. I always try to reduce the other person's expectation before FF Don't Bring Up Your Own Negatives 2017/04/05
there are lots of *small* interactions where teaching people huge stuff about live wouldn't really fit cuz e.g. you only ever interact with the person for 10 minutes total. Anonymous Don't Bring Up Your Own Negatives 2017/04/05
Why not teach people to appreciate honesty instead? I imagined full disclosure of bad stuff was a good way to start. After talking about the horrible stuff the other person would have no expectations left. Then Bombard him with all the good stuff. FF Don't Bring Up Your Own Negatives 2017/04/05
there's no lying here. Anonymous Don't Bring Up Your Own Negatives 2017/04/05
I thought being truthful was good. Is this a trick to deal with people who don't like being told the truth? FF Don't Bring Up Your Own Negatives 2017/04/05
There's a saying among people who live in their RVs all the time and just move the RV to different places: "My life is better than your vacation" I'm sure that's not always, and perhaps only rarely, true. But I think they have the right idea in Anonymous Vacation Travel Is Overrated 2017/03/26
I hate vacations.. I get sick a lot Anonymous Vacation Travel Is Overrated 2017/03/25
i don't know if you mean what you say or it's some kind of satire, but either way you seem like an idiot. curi Open Discussion 2017/03/24
ugly non-white non-english speaking destructive immigrants have no right to live Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/03/24
never curi Open Discussion 2017/03/24
when will trump legalize killing of ugly destructive immigrants? Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/03/24
@#8525 this is similar to induction. it's taking some finite set of stuff and then saying "generalize". he doesn't specify clear, exact rules for what counts as a general theory, nor for which general theories are to be rejected. if we make u curi The Categorical Imperative is Mistaken 2017/03/11
from WIkipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorical_imperative >Kant asserted that lying, or deception of any kind, would be forbidden under any interpretation and in any circumstance. In Grounding, Kant gives the example of a person who seek Mysterious J The Categorical Imperative is Mistaken 2017/03/11
@#8522 you should learn basic internet/computer usage skills and start using them in your life. http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/package-dealing,_fallacy_of.html Anonymous Objectivist and Popperian Epistemology 2017/03/10
package deal oh my god it's turpentine Objectivist and Popperian Epistemology 2017/03/10
What does "package deal" under "Strengths of Objectivist epistemology" refer to? Is it how ideas are sometimes transferred to others as a bundle? Or something else? Anonymous Objectivist and Popperian Epistemology 2017/03/10
#8520 no Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/03/10
you like marie curie? Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/03/10
#8516 I don't disagree that it's relevant to the subject in general. My point is that because #8513 drops context from the quote (a specific kind of problem) and imposes it's own (problems in general), it implies that that is the full context of # SN Open Discussion 2017/03/05
i wrote a mini essay about overwatch https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/5wlrew/game_design_healing_should_give_less_ult_charge/ curi Open Discussion 2017/02/27
Do any of you imagine actors while reading fiction? FF Open Discussion 2017/02/27
#8515 it's a reply b/c it applies. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/26
#8513 This talks about problems in general, but quotes #8512 and drops the context of specifically problems about creating new rationalisations. Why? SN Open Discussion 2017/02/26
1960 book on scientism Alisa Open Discussion 2017/02/26
> But I'm not aware of any new ones at the moment. that's a bad sign, not a good sign. you should expect progress in phases: - ruining your own life obliviously - noticing a few ways you ruin your own life - fixing a few ways you ruin y curi Open Discussion 2017/02/25
#8511 >> I don't create more rationalisations for my life pain. > of course you do. Well, maybe. I guess it's dumb to conclude I'm not gonna make any more after spending a lot of time making them and not really even thinking about it before. SN Open Discussion 2017/02/25
> I don't create more rationalisations for my life pain. of course you do. > The reason I don't have more FI-pain rationalisations is that no-one is coercing me to take part. sure you have more. but they aren't as effective as some others. le Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/23
#8509 > why you don't create rationalizations for the FI pain in order to make it more tolerable, like you do with your life pain? I don't create more rationalisations for my life pain. The ones I have have existed for a long time. I created them SN Open Discussion 2017/02/23
#8508 why you don't create rationalizations for the FI pain in order to make it more tolerable, like you do with your life pain? what's the difference which kept you from doing that in the past regarding the FI pain? Kate Open Discussion 2017/02/23
#8409 (I refer to this first part as the "original comment" later) >>1) his whole fucking life is already pain anyway. the only difference with FI stuff is he doesn't have a ton of rationalizations about that pain. so what he's really doing is tryin SN Open Discussion 2017/02/23
#8504 boring vague hindsight list attempting to replace creative thinking. not useful. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/23
#8387 > in terms of engagement with FI, when you feel bad, you might wanna post about your best guess as to why so people can give you some perspective. often people think their own emotional stuff is worse than it objectively is because its THEIR st SN Open Discussion 2017/02/23
#8504 > (like "it happened because Bob said it" - try it without Bob, or "it happened because I was tired" - try it without being tired) Rewriting for clarity (like "the feeling happened because of Bob said it" - try it without Bob, or "the f SN Open Discussion 2017/02/23
#8349 > did you express this problem to FI and ask for help with a solution? did you post something like, "I feel bad about being accused of lying. Is it bad to be accused of lying? If it's bad, is it bad to be the accuser or the person accused? Why? SN Open Discussion 2017/02/23
For dealing with that, I try to keep catching myself when I resist change for no clear reason and either work out the reason, or if it seems harmless try it out and see what happens. Also reading Rand helps. She makes quite a lot of references to c SN Open Discussion 2017/02/20
>> I guess just asking "why?" (or in the case of not understanding, just saying so) is a place to start with that. > yup. note that you've had issues for years which have such simple solutions. (not necessarily simple *full* solutions but plenty to SN Open Discussion 2017/02/20
> I guess just asking "why?" (or in the case of not understanding, just saying so) is a place to start with that. yup. note that you've had issues for years which have such simple solutions. (not necessarily simple *full* solutions but plenty to ge Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/19
#8463 >> (incidentally I think all good humour is of the "grain of truth" variety, I don't find outright lies told in a "humorous" way to be funny) >this is basically incomprehensible. you're really overestimating how much your text communicates s SN Open Discussion 2017/02/19
>> I can't make deals with people because no-one expects me to follow through. > there is a simple solution to this in widespread use in the business world. > penalty clauses. > e.g. if you don't follow through on X then you owe the guy $100. > si SN Open Discussion 2017/02/19
#8494 yeah constantly using caffeine sucks and having a replacement hot drink is good. curi Open Discussion 2017/02/19
> How long did it take you to get comfortable listening at 500 wpm? i don't know, and i learned related skills first: RSVP speed reading and watching video faster (mostly TV). I learned this stuff gradually over a few years I guess. Takes a whil curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/19
>>But being reliable is good, helps to do things with other people. I don't want to end up being so flaky/inconsistent I can't make deals with people because no-one expects me to follow through. >>Maybe I'm focusing too much on effect rather than c SN Open Discussion 2017/02/19
> judging from my performance being noticeably worse now Oops. I meant "judging from my performance not being noticeably worse now" SN Open Discussion 2017/02/19
I stopped using caffeine a week ago. I was a heavy user for about 12 years. I slept 10 hours a night for a few days but that's changed back to my normal 8 now. It was unpleasant for a couple of days (headachey and irritable). I'm not sure *why* SN Open Discussion 2017/02/19
> if you listen to a book at 500 wpm twice (a very reasonable speed, not super fast, for a skillful reader) you can do that faster than a single really careful, slow reading *and* multitask it. this is efficient! How long did it take you to get co SN Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/19
#8491 that's dumb. the point of penalty clauses is to assure the other guy, when you DO expect you will follow through but he doesn't. (it also deals with ways you could fail but it's not your fault, but you're still responsible) but here you're Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/18
penalty clauses Alisa Open Discussion 2017/02/18
i'm well aware of a variety of bad things about Trump (e.g. economic protectionism and his comments on Garland) and have posted about them, especially during the primaries. there are, however, a lot worse things in the world than Trump who is actually curi Open Discussion 2017/02/15
> No, Trump&co was shorthand for Trump and those who speak directly on his behalf, i.e. White House staff. Going back and re-reading my first use of it, I'm not sure why you would have grouped yourself in there. because i agree with the statements curi Open Discussion 2017/02/15
P.S. I bought Adios America and will read it Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/15
> then you should have said e.g. "Hi, I strongly disagree with your political views. Here is somewhere I think you're making a mistake..." My agreement/disagreement with your political views is mixed. I would guess 50% agreement but hard to estimat Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/15
this quote from Adios America provides some clues about the current voter fraud issue. > As we know from Reagan’s amnesty, when nearly 1 million illegal immigrants falsely claimed to have been farmworkers to get amnesty, foreigners who have alrea curi Open Discussion 2017/02/14
> I have been a FI subscriber/lurker for a few years, and have read many posts here, on FI, and your Fi email newsletter. then you should have said e.g. "Hi, I strongly disagree with your political views. Here is somewhere I think you're making a m curi Open Discussion 2017/02/14
> you came here and, with zero introduction, started aggressively attacking the values of this blog How does analyzing and discussing the statements/claims of Trump&co in relation to voter fraud amount to attacking the values of this blog? It's Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/14
> That may be true (I’m open to the possibility), but being offended / interpreting them as hostile is wrong. i meant they are hostile to Trump, America, the values of this blog (my values), etc > All I have is my current knowledge and I hope curi Open Discussion 2017/02/14
> your political views are very false and nasty and immoral That may be true (I’m open to the possibility), but being offended / interpreting them as hostile is wrong. > they are written like you already chose a side (the anti-America, anti-me Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/14
yeah using different books is reasonable. also i think the biggest issue you want a book you care less about for the audio book. it's way easier to multitask if it's not a big deal to miss a little or not follow a little bit and not rewind. one thi curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/14
Should I have a different book for whatever audiobook listening I am able to do? I think I should. I think it would be hard to go from reading text to audio book and back again because of stuff like finding my place in different mediums and having AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/14
> or where the exercise itself is a multi-task (i.e. bike ride to do errands) the errands at the end of the bike ride have zero relevance to using an audio book while riding. that it's already one kind of multitask doesn't mean it can't be several curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/14
> Why do I seem hostile / unreasonable? your political views are very false and nasty and immoral, and they aren't offered from a position of like "Hi, I'm a novice, teach me", they are written like you already chose a side (the anti-America, anti curi Open Discussion 2017/02/14
> i think 6.5 hours a week is plenty to be worthwhile. i don't understand why it wouldn't be. I don't know why it wouldn't be either. But I asked because it falls into a category I'll call: things I don't know enough about to make a conclusion with AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/13
> you come off as very hostile and unreasonable Not sure why you've jumped to this conclusion. Why do I seem hostile / unreasonable? As far as hostile: my subjective experience is feeling clear / clam. And I thought this place welcomed criticis Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/13
you come off as very hostile and unreasonable. where is the value to me in answering the other comments? they're boring. what do i get out of it? i offered one path forward where you could demonstrate some good will and thinking effort, just in case a curi Open Discussion 2017/02/13
Why have you have ignored most/all of my questions? Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/13
so, are you going to stay ignorant or start reading? curi Open Discussion 2017/02/13
> > My guess is that Trump was relying on the statements of others when saying the 3-5million thing, but without reviewing or doing any scholarly work. > do you mean Trump didn't PERSONALLY do scholarly work? sounds true. but he has advisors, think Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/13
i think 6.5 hours a week is plenty to be worthwhile. i don't understand why it wouldn't be. is there a deadline for learning a particular thing that you aren't sure if you can achieve this way? in the near future? b/c if it's in the distant future i w curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/13
> My guess is that Trump was relying on the statements of others when saying the 3-5million thing, but without reviewing or doing any scholarly work. do you mean Trump didn't PERSONALLY do scholarly work? sounds true. but he has advisors, thinkers, curi Open Discussion 2017/02/13
https://beta.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/fallible-ideas/conversations/messages/19946 > One thing that came up was Trump voter fraud claims. George Stephanopoulos pushed super hard saying Miller didn't have evidence of voter fraud. It seems corre Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/12
#8444 > most effort has to go to fixing your broken shit instead of the avoiding coercion topic itself. #8445 > understanding avoiding coercion is more like 50 books worth of total content, not 1 essay. (all the stuff on the FI site adds up to li AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/12
#8465 >But being reliable is good, helps to do things with other people. I don't want to end up being so flaky/inconsistent I can't make deals with people because no-one expects me to follow through. >Maybe I'm focusing too much on effect rather Kate Open Discussion 2017/02/12
> I can't make deals with people because no-one expects me to follow through. there is a simple solution to this in widespread use in the business world. penalty clauses. e.g. if you don't follow through on X then you owe the guy $100. sig curi Open Discussion 2017/02/12
(#8461 was me too, missed it that time) #8458 >> I don't want to get into something without seriously thinking I'll stick to it, I don't start stuff anticipating that I give up. So getting involved in a discussion means I'm committing myself to in SN Open Discussion 2017/02/12
typo fixes curi Open Discussion 2017/02/12
> I will point out when I'm joking/not being literal and I don't think it's obvious. it's not safe to think it's obvious sometimes. nothing is obvious. and jokes and metaphors are especially confusing. > (incidentally I think all good humour is curi Open Discussion 2017/02/12
#8458 >>I now think learning to be good at stuff *in the context of it being stressful* is super destructive to progress in the long term, and also kinda fake. > Why do you think it's fake? I get how it's not ideal or good (sounds like a coercive SN Open Discussion 2017/02/12
#8458 >>I've been trying out being more "relaxed" posting here (like, making jokes *at all*) to try some alternatives and see how they work out. In the least, I enjoy it more. >Is your relaxed and joking attitude serious? Does it bring urgency and Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/12
#8450 > no. it's just that particular text needed strong emphasis b/c of how i was using it to contrast my perspective with the perspective AnonITA presents. need to emphasize a big difference there for clarity/meaning reasons. Right, even my rei SN Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/12
>Is your relaxed and joking attitude serious? This isn't right. It's more like "your 'relaxed' attitude (which involves making some jokes)". That's different than a joking attitude. It was wrong to imply you said that. Kate Open Discussion 2017/02/11
#8440 >Since when I actually read it's rarely "dangerous" like I'd feared. But sometimes I can read *expecting* "danger" because of this and try to find it where it isn't. *What* specifically is in danger? Your physical safety? Your self-image? Kate Open Discussion 2017/02/11
> cliffnotes are for people, especially students, who don't really want to read books. the site isn't for people like me. I wasn't recommending the site to you. I was taking the site's help in remembering small insignificant characters from Fountai FF Open Discussion 2017/02/11
>> btw it might also be worth changing the "Fallible Ideas" link to eg something like "Fallible Ideas essays" > which link? side bar, between "Archives" and "More" SN Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/11
cliffnotes are for people, especially students, who don't really want to read books. the site isn't for people like me. curi Open Discussion 2017/02/11
> if you want me to actually click the link and read their stuff and then write up a list of ways they're wrong, you'll have to pay me a lot of money. I don't want you/anyone to research it. I guessed someone already familiar with the site might ha FF Open Discussion 2017/02/11
i gave you the answer. if you want me to actually click the link and read their stuff and then write up a list of ways they're wrong, you'll have to pay me a lot of money. curi Open Discussion 2017/02/11
>> Is the cliffnotes site reliable? > no How is it unreliable? FF Open Discussion 2017/02/11
> Is the cliffnotes site reliable? no curi Open Discussion 2017/02/11
#8446 there's *one* caps phrase in a ton of text and that's what stands out to you? it's just caps for extra emphasis. like **bold**, same thing. it needs extra strong emphasis to highlight the contradiction of his claim about *part* vs my statement w curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/11
I've not read it and am not going to read it to check it's reliability. But if you have a particular character you're interested in, I'm happy to discuss :) SN Open Discussion 2017/02/11
Is the cliffnotes site reliable? I am using it while reading the book to know the characters better. https://www.cliffsnotes.com/literature/f/the-fountainhead/ FF Open Discussion 2017/02/11
I commented on Writing Fallible Ideas Emails, 14. I thought I'd post it here too. https://youtu.be/T8AvyHG_bOk?t=34m40s Thinking about this part: > many times you reply, but leave me wondering where you stand on the issues at stake. I think I' SN [Videos] How To Write Philosophy Emails 2017/02/11
At first I read most of #8443, #8444, #8445 as curi raging out at AnonITA. Because out the caps of rage and swearing and harshness and length. But I was just listening to one of curi's videos, and couldn't imagine curi raging out over this. So thou SN Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/11
i think AnonITA dramatically overestimates the completeness of the avoiding coercion FI essay. he doesn't understand that, like more or less all essays, it's a bunch of clues, not a direct transfer of solutions into your brain. it's dehydrated and you curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/11
part of the confusion and issue is this: it takes like X effort to learn the methods of rational problem solving, avoiding coercion, etc X is small, finite. let's say, 500. and AnonITA's questions are more or less: what if my starting point i curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/11
> I won't claim a philosophically serious knowledge about the method I linked to. Not the least because I don't know what would actually meet that standard. > > But I'm not unfamiliar with that method. I think I know enough to talk about it You o curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/11
lol FF [Excerpt] Personal Information Sex: What are y 2017/02/10
#8440 > Another part is time investment. I don't want to get into something without seriously thinking I'll stick to it, I don't start stuff anticipating that I give up. So getting involved in a discussion means I'm committing myself to invest an unk SN Open Discussion 2017/02/09
#8410 >>So I'm ninja about it. Trying to subvert them indirectly, spy on them, learn their weaknesses, sabotage them. I'm a rebel trying to survive the authoritarian meme regime in the only way that isn't suicide. >this is vague. clearly and concr SN Open Discussion 2017/02/09
> the stigma against "over analyzing" social events is an attack on people who have fewer social experiences. it's natural for them to analyze their few data points a lot (if they care about social stuff). whereas if someone is flooded with a ton of s SN Open Discussion 2017/02/09
> you have not learned the method and do not use it. Right. What I said was "I'm not unfamiliar with that method. I think I know enough to talk about it and to make a guess about why I'm not currently able to use it effectively in some areas of my AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/09
#8421 you have not learned the method and do not use it. so, no, your caveats are wrong. i also don't think you understand the meaning of the 3 sentences you quote there. i can't tell you solutions to your problem with needles, and various others, curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/09
Circling back to #8421 > How cheaply and quickly does this stuff work? Enough to not be coerced. Enough it's useable in your life. It seems like this needs a caveat: The method works cheaply and quickly enough not to be coerced unless one of the s AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/09
> you should discuss stuff you can deal with better to try to learn about the problem solving method, instead of the stuff you're most stuck and stupid about. I don't know how to apply this advice. At a high level, there's roughly: (1) problems AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/08
> anyway your emotions aren't a disagreement and aren't participating in the avoiding coercion method. they are not playing the role of a delegation at a mediation which has your best interests as a person at heart. they aren't willing to try to figur AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/08
you should discuss stuff you can deal with better to try to learn about the problem solving method, instead of the stuff you're most stuck and stupid about. don't try to do 2 things at once (learn about method, deal with needles which you're especiall Anonymous Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/08
> wait, so first you deny it, then you give a reason you're doing it on purpose? I think "it" above out to relate to different parts my statements, whereas you're treating "it" as a single thing. My first statement ("Why do you think I'm not?") AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/08
> Why do you think I'm not? well you picked the needle example. > I expect the return on discussing the most problematic areas of life to be higher than the return on discussing less problematic areas of life. wait, so first you deny it, then Anonymous Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/08
#8427 and #8428 I can't talk about everything at once. I don't think it makes sense to talk about both the avoiding coercion topic and the emotion topic at the same time. So ya, for purposes of the discussion I was taking the emotions as a given in o AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/08
@#8428 It's: Given I'm *irrational* about X -- that is, not using rational methods like the avoiding coercion method to think about it -- then the method doesn't work for me about X. It doesn't work when you don't use it. Whether you genuinely w Anonymous Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/07
here's how #8427 reads to me: first of all, assume that I'm bad at introspection, thinking, and solving problems. ok now that we have that all set, the “avoiding coercion” method doesn’t seem to work for me. like in this example with the Kate Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/07
> But there's a method for getting non-coercive solutions one can use in their life instead of only hypothetical solutions given more time/resources. I assume the method you're referring to is the one described at: http://fallibleideas.com/avoidin AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/07
Yvette Felarca of BANM planned violence, riots at Milo's Berkeley appearance Alisa Today's Left is Especially Bad 2017/02/07
https://www.facebook.com/groups/fornewintellectual/permalink/1867863803457512/ > I was listening to Yaron Brook over the weekend and he said that he thinks George W Bush was a much worse President than Obama. jeez i knew Yaron Brook was dumb but curi Open Discussion 2017/02/06
> But the video is worth watching for Szasz's for Szasz's *comments* curi Open Discussion 2017/02/06
Molyneux Szasz Interview curi Open Discussion 2017/02/06
@#8417 it's sad how mundane and basic the problems people get stuck on for their whole lives are. they often can't even solve lots of stuff like this, let alone more interesting or difficult stuff. curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/06
> But it's kind of a chicken-and-egg problem yeah. and no general-case, straightforward solution to this is known. for any given situation, there's a way to make progress. but it depends on lots of details of your situation like what resources y curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/06
> i want to add an example to this to make it more clear. ... > ask questions to that side: all 4 questions given are generic. so this is a fake example, not a real example. a real example would discuss the example scenario. but you take t curi Open Discussion 2017/02/06
here's someone being very mean to me on reddit comments (about Overwatch, not philosophy), totally unprompted and out of the blue, and then being totally dishonest that they had attacked me. https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/5s curi Open Discussion 2017/02/06
#8417: >I don't like getting shots. But I need to get routine vaccinations like flu shots. If I had waited until I felt OK with getting shots I'd have not done it in prior years and risked getting the flu, tetanus, etc. Instead I just make myself g Anonymous Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/06
Sure. I don't like getting shots. But I need to get routine vaccinations like flu shots. If I had waited until I felt OK with getting shots I'd have not done it in prior years and risked getting the flu, tetanus, etc. Instead I just make myself ge AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/06
#8414 >but rather than just claiming, “that’s irrational, don’t give in to those sneaky, evil, tough meme bastards!”, try to approach the conflict rationally. it's like on one side of the coin, you have (most) people indulging their emot Kate Open Discussion 2017/02/06
molyneux interview with szasz oh my god it's turpentine Open Discussion 2017/02/06
#8410 >you need to *resolve* conflicts. not delegitimize one side by labeling it "static meme" and treating it as the enemy. >give that side a chance to "say it's piece". does it have any explanations? can it answer criticisms of those explanati Kate Open Discussion 2017/02/06
#8412 your ignorance of the Urban Dictionary website does not warrant a "wtf" response to people. you could also have found the answer with a Google search like: what is vidya you're being a dumb jerk here. curi Open Discussion 2017/02/06
#8399 > But you're right that I do time management with other stuff too, and normally do it a lot better than with discussion. I don't have any problem eg fitting in a few hours of vidya or anime around sleep and work. wtf is a "vidya"? Video Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/06
my bad on not linking the post which i was just quoting. it's #8401 Kate Open Discussion 2017/02/06
>So I'm ninja about it. Trying to subvert them indirectly, spy on them, learn their weaknesses, sabotage them. I'm a rebel trying to survive the authoritarian meme regime in the only way that isn't suicide. this is vague. clearly and concretely, wh Kate Open Discussion 2017/02/06
ok. here's the quote: >1) his whole fucking life is already pain anyway. the only difference with FI stuff is he doesn't have a ton of rationalizations about that pain. so what he's really doing is trying to conform to his existing rationalizations Kate Open Discussion 2017/02/06
> i wanted to understand clearly why people create rationalizations for life pain, but not FI pain. already this is junk. you're assuming something false that wasn't in the quote. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/06
>It's not like all of my days are filled with intentional self-coercion. Far from it. But if I judge that something really needs to get done in some non-FI area of my life and I don't want to do it and I can't find another way to deal with it fairly q Anonymous Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/06
#8398 >this post has nothing to say and is all faking. i want to understand this. do you have an explanation? maybe a good place to start is i'll share some of my thinking for the post. can you point out how my mind was faking? so anon wro Kate Open Discussion 2017/02/06
the stigma against "over analyzing" social events is an attack on people who have fewer social experiences. it's natural for them to analyze their few data points a lot (if they care about social stuff). whereas if someone is flooded with a ton of soc Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/06
> Partially I think it's some pressure I put on myself to respond, like I need to respond quickly or it's a problem. there are **zero** FI posters who consistently respond fast. curi Open Discussion 2017/02/06
thanks #8400 i had downloaded the video about mental illness video but i've now deleted it unwatched. even worse than i expected :( and i'm suspicious he's attacking Frozen instead of Lord of the Rings because children especially like it. it's t curi Open Discussion 2017/02/06
I didn't mean to anthropomorphise my memes there seriously. But I don't think it was obvious that I wasn't saying talking about seriously as other entities. >They really wanted me to get defensive If I was being serious, I'd have said "I really SN Open Discussion 2017/02/05
#8395 >> here's my take: nobody's discovered a reliably pain-free way to go from an irrational mentality to a rational mentality. >1) his whole fucking life is already pain anyway *cries* (jk) (but there's plenty of pain that I've spent too SN Open Discussion 2017/02/05
molyneux on mental illness oh my god it's turpentine Open Discussion 2017/02/05
>> The problem is about managing my wants. I want to continue the discussion, but this goes against the want to sleep and work. I've been pretty bad at managing that conflict. >don't you run into the same problem with other stuff too? e.g. you like SN Open Discussion 2017/02/05
#8397 this post has nothing to say and is all faking. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/05
>1) his whole fucking life is already pain anyway. the only difference with FI stuff is he doesn't have a ton of rationalizations about that pain. so what he's really doing is trying to conform to his existing rationalizations. the following comme Kate Open Discussion 2017/02/05
Stefan Molyneux: There is No Such Thing as Mental Illness Alisa Open Discussion 2017/02/05
> here's my take: nobody's discovered a reliably pain-free way to go from an irrational mentality to a rational mentality. 1) his whole fucking life is already pain anyway. the only difference with FI stuff is he doesn't have a ton of rationalizat Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/05
#8385 yes scheduling time *after* writing something to ponder more, finish up some thoughts or at least take some notes so you can continue later, is a good idea. people over under-allocate time to stuff and skimping on before and after time is a comm curi Open Discussion 2017/02/05
> The problem is about managing my wants. I want to continue the discussion, but this goes against the want to sleep and work. I've been pretty bad at managing that conflict. don't you run into the same problem with other stuff too? e.g. you like a curi Open Discussion 2017/02/05
> it's impossible for him to succeed without asking lots of questions (at least in his own mind) and getting answers to those questions. he has to create knowledge of how to fly a plane and that involves asking questions. and if he's gonna be asking q Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/05
Yes, people are born without language and have to learn it. Yes, people are born tabula rasa is a good way to think about it. Yes, that's what Rand said. I'm not very familiar with ARI's denial of this but ARI is terrible on lots of things so I'm u curi Presupposing Intelligence in Epistemology 2017/02/05
#8388 The FCC used to require a morse code test for any ham radio license with HF privileges. The first level ("Novice") test was at 5 wpm. By the time I was involved, those seeking to meet it almost never were interested in learning the code for its PAS Learning Overwatch 2017/02/05
#8356 I think I need to start by discussing whether to rule out options that involve intentional self-coercion. From a discussion I'm not involved in: http://curi.us/1950-open-discussion#c8387 > nobody's discovered a reliably pain-free way to go AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/05
Learning morse code Alisa Learning Overwatch 2017/02/05
#8343: >I'm very sure that OCD is very good for someone who knows how to engage in it effectively and doesn't (like me) have a bunch of terrible ideas that obstruct it. this is a bit like those people that say "capitalism's great for rich people Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/05
#8334: >Asking questions would probably help the wannabe pilot. But it's not impossible for him to succeed without doing that it's impossible for him to succeed without asking lots of questions (at least in his own mind) and getting answers to t Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/05
More meta One of the issues I have is time pressure. I want to sleep, I want to work, etc. This has come up for me a few times since I started discussing here this week. My first thought in response was a "I don't have time to do all this" sort SN Open Discussion 2017/02/05
#8379: wtf? no. that doesn't follow at all. a fair number of people think you're a horrible failure if you don't get into and attend an Ivy League college and graduate summa cum laude. I think that's crap. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/05
Mrs Christine McNulty Presupposing Intelligence in Epistemology 2017/02/05
#8333: >Imagine someone wants to fly a plane. >Does he jump in the cockpit right away and take off? No, he'll probably die (if he even gets it in the air at all). >Has he quit because he doesn't do that? No, he needs to work out how to do it Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/05
> I want to explain how - and why. > > Will someone give me a platform? this is a platform. you're welcome to post here. curi Presupposing Intelligence in Epistemology 2017/02/05
Mrs Christine McNulty Presupposing Intelligence in Epistemology 2017/02/05
#8378 when you consider basically everyone a horrible failure, wouldn't pretty much ANY criterion for declaring people a horrible failure seem accurate to you? Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/05
#8333: >Ok, but a period not posting isn't a good measure that they are not engaging. it's roughly 100% effective as a measure based on what i've seen IRL. this applies even when people are engaging in discussion of FI ideas a bit in some non Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/05
#8370 > that showed some kinda error in judgement about what you expected other people to find non-notable and instantly agree with. I wouldn't say I *expect* agreement on the other things I don't go into. Rather, I expect disagreement on the SN Open Discussion 2017/02/05
great point. more to lose = more to lose IF YOU DON'T MAKE PROGRESS. you automatically lose if you don't make progress because problems are inevitable so you always need rapid progress or you're fucked. so if you have a lot to lose, that's incen Anonymous Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/05
quote from #8314: >Rand's life, Trump's life, Hitler's life, my life, and a crack whore's life are (or were) all problematic. True, but misses the point. Some people have a lot more to lose than others. They have a lot more to lose because they've Mysterious person Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/05
the post is from 2003. here: http://fallibleideas.com/essays/taking-children-seriously Anonymous [Excerpt] Parenting TCS is the true parenting 2017/02/05
the TCS link is dead Anonymous [Excerpt] Parenting TCS is the true parenting 2017/02/05
> The relevant part from #8343 that passage was already discussed above. the reason for writing that was already talked about above. you are not expressing any criticism of that reasoning. you're re-expressing an initial position (you already wrote Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/05
when you make an argument which assumes premises in passing, instead of clearing laying them out as potentially controversial or worthy of any explanation/argument, it suggests you expect those premises to be accepted. when you act like something i Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/05
#8368 was me. Forgot to sign. SN Open Discussion 2017/02/05
#8365 >>> Your posting style is one of the problems. >> >> This was addressed to anon in #8339. > > what about the posting style? From #8339 > some things you haven't said are any actual problems with criticism (or public discussion or wha Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/05
> I think the idea of assuming someone is very conventional and criticising them for conventional mistakes until convinced otherwise (rather than pointing out mistakes when they happen) is very problematic. I think it's better to focus on the mistakes Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/05
#8361 > #8354 this comment is boring due to lack of examples. it accuses some unspecified authors of making some mistakes with zero quotes of any text SN alleges makes the mistake. I didn't think it was controversial to say (in #8354): > An appr SN Open Discussion 2017/02/05
>> Your posting style is one of the problems. > This was addressed to anon in #8339. what about the posting style? curi Open Discussion 2017/02/05
>> > 1) you should not make assumptions about who wrote this or that it's the same anonymous as any other anonymous comment. >> I didn't. > stop writing "you" a lot then. it sounds like you're making assumptions about who is who. and it's often SN Open Discussion 2017/02/05
#8357 > The method (read Rand, try to understand it yourself) basically doesn't work. Engaging with other people who've read Rand helps dramatically. >Why? Because errors come up as you read -- e.g. misunderstandings -- and you're trying to deal wi SN Open Discussion 2017/02/04
> If you've got better phrasing other than talking my ideas as "them", what is it? you could talk in terms of reform, self-improvement, learning better ideas and problem solving. curi Open Discussion 2017/02/04
#8354 this comment is boring due to lack of examples. it accuses some unspecified authors of making some mistakes with zero quotes of any text SN alleges makes the mistake. this reminds me of all the times people say i write mean/bad/whatever stuff curi Open Discussion 2017/02/04
> > > So why am I making progress anyway? > > you've provided no evidence of this. you believe it but why do you expect anyone else here to believe it? that you expect us to believe it shows you have a perspective mistake. > I don't expect you t curi Open Discussion 2017/02/04
> > 1) you should not make assumptions about who wrote this or that it's the same anonymous as any other anonymous comment. > I didn't. stop writing "you" a lot then. it sounds like you're making assumptions about who is who. and it's often uncl curi Open Discussion 2017/02/04
> I referenced a specific page, how's that not a real reference to anything? I guess I coulda been more useful and linked to the first of my comments tho. i just took a look at the page and was unable to figure out what text there you were referrin curi Open Discussion 2017/02/04
> I've read a ton of Rand. Millions of people have read a bunch of Rand on their own without big results. Many of them benefitted a little and I don't want to say it was a bad activity or anything. But almost none of them became decent philosophers curi Open Discussion 2017/02/04
there are many options for proceeding and you know lots of them. one option is to read and discuss philosophy books. if you don't like it and some others, there's always the option of discussing options. you could post some options you're aware curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/04
>> Which is not at all "basically nothing to do with OCD". > you are ignorant of some ideas on this topic. Like what? >> That's why I'm interested in beating them, to the point where I can engage in FI posting without suffering. > you're SN Open Discussion 2017/02/04
Another meta-issue. An approach I've seen here, and also seen on FI in the past, is assuming that someone is conventional and wanting to be convinced to treat them as anything but. Ie here as far as I can tell, a poster has an idea of what conve SN Open Discussion 2017/02/04
Gonna break from the above crits for something meta. I'm struggling to process the number of anon posts. I suspect there are multiple anons and that's confusing me because I'm trying to connect them for context. I don't think it's impossible to do SN Open Discussion 2017/02/04
#8325 > actively seek to be/become more of a thinker. Suppose I agree this would be a good thing. What concrete steps would I take? AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/04
#8346 > > So why am I making progress anyway? > you've provided no evidence of this. you believe it but why do you expect anyone else here to believe it? that you expect us to believe it shows you have a perspective mistake. I don't expect yo SN Open Discussion 2017/02/04
#8344 > if the goal is to be able to interact with FI without suffering, seems like you should have come back more regularly to get feedback on how your new approach is working. e.g. even feedback in the form of “ok. i still feel bad. this still is SN Open Discussion 2017/02/04
> Being accused of lying. > > This hangup fucked me up very badly when Elliot first called me a liar (about 20 months ago iirc). did you express this problem to FI and ask for help with a solution? did you post something like, "I feel bad about b Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/03
> Or are you saying my rate of progress is so low that I'm not improving fast enough to keep up with reality? > > Or that you don't think I've improved at all? you sure feel judged. > My bad ideas that are fighting me and torturing me and maki Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/03
> what are other huge contributors to error correction, learning, progress? thinking. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/03
> So why am I making progress anyway? you've provided no evidence of this. you believe it but why do you expect anyone else here to believe it? that you expect us to believe it shows you have a perspective mistake. you have some things you think Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/03
>open critical discussion (OCD) is a huge contributor to error correction, without which one is fucked. is it the KEY contributor to error correction? number one? what are other huge contributors to error correction, learning, progress? Kate Open Discussion 2017/02/03
>FI posting resulted in me suffering. I want to resume posting, but I don't want to suffer. The only solution I know is to find ways of fixing the problems that result in me suffering through other channels besides FI. i can understand wanting to a Kate Open Discussion 2017/02/03
> open critical discussion (OCD) is a huge contributor to error correction, without which one is fucked. So why am I making progress anyway? Or are you saying my rate of progress is so low that I'm not improving fast enough to keep up with real SN Open Discussion 2017/02/03
open critical discussion (OCD) is a huge contributor to error correction, without which one is fucked. people's problems are basically nothing to do with OCD and leaving OCD doesn't help anything. people's problems are *revealed by* OCD, not caused Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/03
> you're just paying biased, selective attention to suffering that you (probably misleadingly and unreasonably) attribute to FI. Why did you say "misleadingly and unreasonably"? The cause of the suffering would be his own ideas. Maybe I missed Kate Open Discussion 2017/02/03
>talking with a few friends in private, or figuring everything out yourself, are very low success rate methods. It's not figuring everything out yourself. But what if it's just figuring out how to engage with FI without suffering? Also, why Kate Open Discussion 2017/02/03
> I disagree that you can't error-correct without FI, which you seem to imply? (I never said without help though) there is no realistic method that avoids public discussion. talking with a few friends in private, or figuring everything out yours Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/03
I wrote that a bit too quickly and carelessly and was unclear. > Or I guess this could be true... I meant "I guess this could be true *of what you think*" SN Open Discussion 2017/02/02
Or I guess this could be true... 4. Trying to do FI in a way that doesn't result in suffering counts as quitting FI. Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/02
> if they aren't posting then where's the error correction? figure everything out themselves without help? no no no. just leads to them doing some of the millions of common errors and not being told about it. I agree that if you can do the critica SN Open Discussion 2017/02/02
> FI isn't the only possible source of correct solutions. error correction is the only way to get correct solutions with any kind of reliability. it's a total crapshoot otherwise. error correction is the defining feature of public critical discu Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/02
(Asking questions would probably help the wannabe pilot. But it's not impossible for him to succeed without doing that.) SN Open Discussion 2017/02/02
> when someone doesn't know much about FI and leaves for years they have no way of knowing what paths do or don't lead back to FI (and most don't), so they can't have a reasonable expectation they'll ever come back. They could have a good idea wha SN Open Discussion 2017/02/02
when someone doesn't know much about FI and leaves for years they have no way of knowing what paths do or don't lead back to FI (and most don't), so they can't have a reasonable expectation they'll ever come back. when one stops engaging with FI id Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/02
> do you think a 10 year break also isn't quitting? where do you draw a line? I don't draw one in terms of time between posts. Why do you? Seems like a poor standard of quitting. Different people have different problems. It takes them differ SN Open Discussion 2017/02/02
> I don't think "stop posting for a year" = quit. do you think a 10 year break also isn't quitting? where do you draw a line? Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/02/02
>> You think the social in your life that you need to maintain your financial position is an acceptable cost. You don't think the consequences cost you more than the profit you make. >i don't think that's an accurate statement about AnonITA. I thin SN Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/01
> you don't have to say a lot about leaving and returning I want to. There's a lot of stuff I've changed. I expect I've made mistakes and could improve on what I changed and how I did it. I have quite a bit of stuff I've written about the last y SN Open Discussion 2017/02/01
> Why is smalltalk majorly bad? i don't know a short answer to this that would work for a typical person in our culture. Anonymous Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/01
>he also knows smalltalk is bad, i bet, but only mildly -- i'd guess he sees that as minor (e.g. it's kinda boring). Why is smalltalk majorly bad? Anonymous Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/01
> Do you have any suggestions for how to proceed from here? actively seek to be/become more of a thinker. curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/01
> That (social) problem doesn't bother me much on its own you know little about social. basically what's at stake here is a life devoted to static memes (as much of your life is), or not. curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/02/01
> What is the difference between "life-ruining" social and not-life-ruining social? the only way to understand this is to learn about what's bad about social. you need a conceptual understanding. then you can evaluate which stuff is awful and which curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/31
> - Doesn't require producing things for solely or mostly social reasons, like pretty reports or proposals or other busywork. "Just the facts" kind of reports on objectively valuable data are the only kind ever required. whether this sucks to do de curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/31
> In that context, I think "doesn't require being social" to a high standard includes meeting all of: > - Doesn't require physical presence or "visibility" (video or pictures) beyond the actual, objective requirements of the job if any. You shou curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/31
> I am trying to think about "doesn't require being social" to a high standard, which I assume you were too. I don't consider a UPS driver job to be social to the standard of it fucks up your life. I think you can be pretty damn non-social, succes curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/31
you don't have to say a lot about leaving and returning, but you should say something. people often avoid the issue. Russ just left for a month. hasn't said a word about it. lame. Rami has a history of lengthy absences followed by trying to avoid disc Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/01/31
> You think the social in your life that you need to maintain your financial position is an acceptable cost. You don't think the consequences cost you more than the profit you make. i don't think that's an accurate statement about AnonITA. I think curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/31
>> You're giving up? > No. I said in #8307: >> I think the discussion is going in circles and I'm not sure how to resolve that. >I still don't think I've resolved it, so I'm trying other approaches. The circle I see is: You say you have Anonymous Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/31
I want to start posting on FI again. I've been posting here as a kind of warm-up to it. My hangups are less in action here than with FI, posting here is a step I'm comfortable with. It's been a long time since I was last significantly active on SN Open Discussion 2017/01/31
there are distinctions between lives that are important here. calling some "good" and others "bad" does not explain these distinctions or categorize anything usefully in this discussion. your life is unlike Rand's or Roark's. yours is worse. callin curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/30
> it doesn't make sense to call one's life as a whole good or bad. I agree in some contexts and disagree in other contexts. In the context of this discussion I disagree. I agree that all lives are problematic. I agree that we're at the beginni AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/30
> You're giving up? No. I said in #8307: > I think the discussion is going in circles and I'm not sure how to resolve that. I still don't think I've resolved it, so I'm trying other approaches. AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/30
it doesn't make sense to call one's life as a whole good or bad. it's at the *beginning of infinity*. it's infinitely problematic. that doesn't mean bad. both "good" and "bad" are misleading characterizations. it's *problematic* (aka open to improveme curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/29
>> how can it be good when you haven't learned much good philosophy and you still have lots of conventional ideas? >I think this would take a very long discussion to cover thoroughly. So what? You're giving up? > I'm not interested in con SN Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/29
>> I also judge my current life to be good > how can it be good when you haven't learned much good philosophy and you still have lots of conventional ideas? I think this would take a very long discussion to cover thoroughly. One short comment: AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/29
http://curi.us/1945-scheduling-and-thinking#c8190 AnonITA wrote: > I think being more intellectual than normal is a component of the particular image that I want to have with the groups that I care about. For example, I can say things that peopl Kate Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/27
> I also judge my current life to be good how can it be good when you haven't learned much good philosophy and you still have lots of conventional ideas? it doesn't make sense that this fact scenario leads to a "good life" by objective standards Kate Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/27
> start be recognizing *problems* with this "ongoing good life". then start doing *problem solving*. all life is problem solving. and problems are soluble. > by phrasing the life as "good" rather than *problematic*, you are obscuring the mechanism of AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/27
> Can you think of anything concrete and valuable Roark got to get/do that Keating didn't? Work in a rock quarry? In case you think so, I'm not being facetious. It's actually relevant to one of my concerns. Which is, needing to do a job that's m AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/27
> we were talking about celebs whose life is social. I thought we'd left the celeb scenario. curi asked: > why do you want to discuss this example instead of just using a regular non-rich person who has neither large assets nor large debts and AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/27
we were talking about celebs whose life is social. there are tons of jobs which don't involve life-ruining social. Anonymous Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/27
Non-social jobs AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/27
>> pros: get their soul/self back >I'm having trouble tying this back to reality. >Can you give an example of something concrete and valuable that someone who got "their soul/self back" would be able to get/do, that someone who was still being s Kate Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/27
soul oh my god it's turpentine Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/26
#8295 >Can you give an example of something concrete and valuable that someone who got "their soul/self back" would be able to get/do, that someone who was still being social wouldn't? Say you have a great new idea for how to do something. But it SN Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/26
>> Now considering the fact that no reputable psychologist believes that emotions are solely the product of our ideas, you would think that Rand would have been eager to back her theory with empirical data. >Another appeal to authority. GN asserts SN Critical Review of Ayn Rand Contra Human Nature 2017/01/26
> Can you give an example of something concrete and valuable that someone who got "their soul/self back" would be able to get/do, that someone who was still being social wouldn't? Can you think of anything concrete and valuable Roark got to get/do Anonymous Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/26
> Lots of people totally do...especially if they have a family to support. Maybe they shouldn't. But if that's true, I don't understand why they shouldn't. yeah people do, but shouldn't. among other things, there are a million other jobs paying curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/26
> why do you want to discuss this example instead of just using a regular non-rich person who has neither large assets nor large debts and isn't obligated by any major business contracts? I think my situation falls somewhere between a rich person a AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/26
> pros: get their soul/self back I'm having trouble tying this back to reality. Can you give an example of something concrete and valuable that someone who got "their soul/self back" would be able to get/do, that someone who was still being soc AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/26
why do you want to discuss this example instead of just using a regular non-rich person who has neither large assets nor large debts and isn't obligated by any major business contracts? you want to hear that e.g. maybe someone who makes 50 million curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/26
> i don't think it's reasonable to choose the example, do zero research, and contradict the common view of the matter because of some general knowledge that some celebs ain't super financially well off. OK Fair. I didn't do any research. I read AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/26
Falsifiability: why you rule things out, not in Alisa Open Discussion 2017/01/26
You're MSNBC is showing L Ron Hobnob Open Discussion 2017/01/25
> Hope u all die lol why are you here? curi Open Discussion 2017/01/25
OH the IRONY L Ron Hobnob Open Discussion 2017/01/25
i googled before posting and it said she has net worth of $150 million. that means massive assets in excess of debts. i relied on this information for my post. did you make no attempt to look this up, or are you disputing this without saying anything curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/23
OK good, I think we disagree. I don't think she's an easy case. I don't know a bunch about her either. I definitely don't know enough to assume: > she can make a transition without worrying about making any money during the transition. I don AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/23
ok. btw high public offices really are a sacrifice in some significant ways. > Still keeping with the makeup and pleasing conventional guys example of social stuff how about Kim Kardishian? (i know almost nothing about her) she should change curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/23
> I don't know why you picked this example. It seems really exceptional. So it doesn't compare well to most people's situations. Yes, it was the most exceptional example I could think of. Worldwide there's maybe 100 people in her type of position ( AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/23
I don't know why you picked this example. It seems really exceptional. So it doesn't compare well to most people's situations. Melania Trump has made major commitments involving, among other things, dressing well and having a certain appearance. Sh curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/23
Makeup and pleasing conventional guys is a useful example. I want to ask a question to calibrate how much disagreement I have about social stuff with FI. Thinking of the makeup and pleasing conventional guys example of social stuff, and regardi AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/23
>Why would someone who already has social skills want to undertake a serious project of stopping being social? I think if you get down into the details enough the question almost answers itself. E.g. Why would a woman who already has skill at m Extremely Mysterious Person Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/22
Excerpt from "How to say nothing in 500 words" Alisa Open Discussion 2017/01/22
Why RethinkDB Failed Alisa Open Discussion 2017/01/22
social junk oh my god it's turpentine Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/22
clips of me playing Tracer in Overwatch today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljYIt1iWlHs curi Open Discussion 2017/01/22
pros: get their soul/self back cons: harder to suck up to a bad boss to keep a shitty job, harder to marry or stay married to a bad person Anonymous Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/21
> applying significant social skills in this example, and broadly in general, is a bad idea *if* you have a serious project of stopping being social. Why would someone who already has social skills want to undertake a serious project of stopping be AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/21
> So would it make sense to say that applying social skills you already have in the ice cream shop example is generally a bad policy? applying significant social skills in this example, and broadly in general, is a bad idea *if* you have a serious curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/21
So would it make sense to say that applying social skills you already have in the ice cream shop example is generally a bad policy? If so, is the main reason it is generally a bad policy that: Such a policy is commonly part of a much larger set of AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/21
"addiction" and "habit" are both negative words used to refer to things people do a lot of. a non-negative word i use for substantially automated decisions is *policy*. i have pre-existing policies for how to handle a variety of situations which i curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/21
> the "habit" concept has similarities to the "addiction" concept which maybe you've seen me say stuff about already. OK, I may need to revisit my thoughts on habits in general. Addiction has a chemical or at least non-idea-based component to the c AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/21
> Did you not mention what they would do with a ratio tilted heavily in favor of benefits from using social skill because you think that's super rare? Or some other reason? in the big picture, social is very expensive and the ice cream example is m curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/21
> Is the conventional idea of a "bad habit" a good way to think about playing social games like in the example of the ice cream shop? i don't think so. > Or are there significant flaws with the "bad habit" idea? yes. the "habit" concept has s curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/21
> a person better at promoting their self wouldn't spend a 999999 resources on secondhanded social for 50 selfish benefit. > and they wouldn't be interested in trying to get 4 benefit for 3 cost at risk of their soul if they miscalculate. Did you AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/21
Is the conventional idea of a "bad habit" a good way to think about playing social games like in the example of the ice cream shop? Or are there significant flaws with the "bad habit" idea? Or is the "bad habit" idea fine but doesn't fit this particul AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/21
> OK, but I'm not considering whether to learn any more social stuff here, just whether to use what I already know. Even if it was a bad package deal to learn it in the first place, that seems like a different matter from whether it's a good idea to u curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/20
> the social skills for the ice cream example are part of a package deal where people learn social stuff more generally. they aren't chosen individually. OK, but I'm not considering whether to learn any more social stuff here, just whether to use w AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/20
sharing wisdom on reddit lol https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/5p4vbp/experts_are_very_good_at_finding_imbalances_but/dcoutf8/ curi Open Discussion 2017/01/20
the social skills for the ice cream example are part of a package deal where people learn social stuff more generally. they aren't chosen individually. the overall downside is spending most of your attention on secondhandedness, social games, etc, curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/20
> if you've already learned that stuff you should stop using it, even at the price of waiting more occasionally, because it'd be destroying you and has far more downside than upside. How and why would it be destroying me? If I've already learne AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/20
> > the ordering system at bars you describe is awful and should downgrade one's opinion of bars substantially. > I agree. I worded my preference for lines vs attention games as hypothetical, but it is also my actual preference. > But I don't th curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/19
> the ordering system at bars you describe is awful and should downgrade one's opinion of bars substantially. I agree. I worded my preference for lines vs attention games as hypothetical, but it is also my actual preference. But I don't think th AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/19
> So the question I'm getting at: Is it second-handed to assess what the other people in a situation think and want, and then conform my behavior to those other people's expectations in order to minimize my combination of wait time + hassle? I don't t curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/19
The reason I asked is because of thinking about another statement from #8226: > if there isn't a personal benefit, if it's just compliance for their benefit and not my own, then that'd be second-handed (caring what they think and want, not what I t AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/19
> Is that right? i agree, but i don't know why you're saying this. curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/19
My point is to question a theory. Another way to ask: I think the morality of waiting in checkout lines arises from the culture of the other people, not from the situation itself of having more customers wanting to check out than available checkers AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/19
i don't think i get your point. Anonymous Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/18
> i wait in line at stores instead of trying to go ahead of people to save time. this is in my interest. it's not about their esteem. trying to cut in line is more hassle than it's worth. i'm better off getting along with people regarding store lines. AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/18
I would like to see Elliot raise a superhuman kid before I have sex and make a baby. Anonymous The Myth of Teaching 2017/01/15
so your idea is instead of parenting 1 kid, parenting 20 kids all at once, and do such an amazing job it makes up for the 5 years (or however old they are when they arrive) of much-worse-than-typical abuse they've already suffered? Anonymous The Myth of Teaching 2017/01/15
using parenting to try and turn kids into a particular person is contrary to TCS Mysterious Person The Myth of Teaching 2017/01/15
You can practice TCS on orphans and turn them into Howard Roarks Anonymous The Myth of Teaching 2017/01/15
Right. Not meant to be secret. I think I was being evasive at first by not picking something more obvious. I wanted plausible deniability in case I was recognised but found it to be a problem and wanted to bail. I've done some anon posts too. Bu SN Open Discussion 2017/01/15
oh i think i just realized what SN stands for. real initials not meant to be a secret? not even AI researchers have a clue about people, robots, etc... and the EU is statist, wouldn't expect much respect for rights there. curi Open Discussion 2017/01/15
> Why don't you run an orphanage and practice tcs on them? wtf? Anonymous The Myth of Teaching 2017/01/15
EU utterly confused on what people are, what robots are and what rights are: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-38583360 I haven't read the EU report closely, but it looks like garbage. (it's linked in the article) They want to make robots SN Open Discussion 2017/01/15
Why don't you run an orphanage and practice tcs on them? Anonymous The Myth of Teaching 2017/01/15
#8238 > the world isn't some friendly community of people who want to correct their mistakes. it's important to be more independent and less concerned about others. they generally aren't important. finding out about the ways each one is bad and misju SN Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/14
#8235 >I suspect you're lying to yourself about thinking STEM is worthwhile. Oops. Bad mistake. I mean SENS. SN Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/14
> One comment is that I seem much more motivated to read specific essays or sections related to a current question or problem than I am to read whole books. so find specific interests, then look up related essays/chapters/etc by good authors, and curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/14
there are already plenty of examples of conventionally successful atheists without adding your name to the list. if anyone was going to change their mind about God because of this particular counter-example, they'd already have done it. unless they ar Anonymous Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/14
> I think my problem is primarily emotional. Intellectually I know that ex: pursuing a SENS lead with a high risk of failure can be a good value to pursue. But I'd feel bad about it because of what other people would think if it failed. and if they Anonymous Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/14
> I think I care if even some people who I judge as bat at success think I'm successful. One reason is about winning other arguments I've had with them. For example, I think I'm acting as if my success can prove that God does not curse unbelievers. Or Anonymous Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/14
> I think I care if even some people who don't know me well think I'm successful. One reason is because of how I think it will affect their behavior towards me. For example, what opportunities they'll let me know about. > > There could be other reas Anonymous Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/14
#8230 the world isn't some friendly community of people who want to correct their mistakes. it's important to be more independent and less concerned about others. they generally aren't important. finding out about the ways each one is bad and misjudge Anonymous Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/14
#8233 you should try to understand what i said. you haven't engaged with my explanation about a connection between altruism and second-handedness. curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/14
(OP) > If I worked a 9-5 job, I would go to sleep by 8pm so I could wake up by 4am and do philosophy in the morning before work. I've been trying this. Cool idea, it works. I normally get a few hours of good focused thinking before I head to wo SN Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/14
#8232 (AnonITA responding to me) > I judge all of the people to be a mixture of good and bad. Regarding the specific context of success I'm analyzing here, I judge some of them as successful (explicitly: good at success - value producers) and others SN Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/14
>So: I avoid situations where visible failure is a significant risk. this is one way you are living second-handed. you are letting them direct your life in some ways. you are letting them contaminate you and have a big impact on which types of situ Kate Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/14
> so basically you asked an impersonal question and i answered it and then you're, without any discussion (or, I suspect, understanding) of my answer, trying to apply it personally and acting like it was intended to address your personal problems and AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/14
> If you're a good person and they're good people, they will like you if they know you well. Some of the people know me well; some don't. I think I care if even some people who don't know me well think I'm successful. One reason is because of h AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/14
> But you need to be careful not to rose-tint your world and just assume (3) is good. I mean "assume (3) is right." SN Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/14
> If that assumption is not true, I'd also want to know. If there's a way I could care that certain people see me as successful that's NOT second-handed, then I'd want to investigate whether I actually care for second-handed or first-handed reasons. SN Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/14
> Even though it's still second-handed, could I want the esteem of others for a reason other than altruism? i addressed this question that uses second-handed as a premise and then asks if maybe not altruism. my replies then use second-handed as a p Anonymous Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/13
I just realized something might not be clear I'm assuming in the above: I think that caring that certain people see me as a successful person is *definitionally* second-handed. If that assumption is not true, I'd also want to know. If there's a AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/13
> if you want their esteem for second handed reasons, then it's not about your own benefit. so, altruism. and > if there isn't a personal benefit, if it's just compliance for their benefit and not my own, then that'd be second-handed (caring wh AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/13
> Even though it's still second-handed, could I want the esteem of others for a reason other than altruism? Like in my own case: Could I want others to see me as successful because I want things from them that further my own values? Or is the only rea curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/13
Thanks for the essay suggestions. I read them. One comment is that I seem much more motivated to read specific essays or sections related to a current question or problem than I am to read whole books. I think you already knew that, but it is o AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/13
oops.. got posted twice.. I was not trying to spam.. I changed the "a" to "an" one sec later. But it still got posted. FF Open Discussion 2017/01/12
Found an extremely cheap VPN!! $1.66/month I wanted to find something cheaper than PIA.. Does anyone have any criticism against ivacy? Has anyone tried it? https://www.ivacy.com/buy-vpn/ Anonymous browsing 256-bit encryption for ultimate p FF Open Discussion 2017/01/12
Found a extremely cheap VPN!! $1.66/month I wanted to find something cheaper than PIA.. Does anyone have any criticism against ivacy? Has anyone tried it? https://www.ivacy.com/buy-vpn/ Anonymous browsing 256-bit encryption for ultimate pr FF Open Discussion 2017/01/12
#8219 http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/second-handers.html Since I think you don't want to read a whole book, try her essays “The Nature of the Second-Hander” and “The Soul of an Individualist”! In general the lexicon is great to fi curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/12
> Is there anything fairly specific in Rand (or elsewhere) I could read about what's wrong with being a second hander or where to look for firsthanded motivation? I'd say The Fountainhead is best. It describes well the impact of a life lived throu SN Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/12
Returning to one of the main issues as I see it: > i think you can work on stuff in parallel and there will be connections. e.g. some idea about what's wrong with being a second hander will help give you an idea of where to look for firsthanded mot AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/12
> i think it would have been clear if you said "True." and then you quoted something else and then wrote the rest as a second topic. OK. AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/12
So I misunderstood that this occasion was getting special emphasis, over other similar occasions where you didn't say anything extra? SN Screencast of my Objectivism Discussion Thinking and Writing Process 2017/01/12
i'm writing questions/comments there which they could potentially have already addressed later in their email below, in which case i'd want to go back and edit what i say. when i explain verbally and say it's possible to "do this" at the bottom of curi Screencast of my Objectivism Discussion Thinking and Writing Process 2017/01/12
> I intended to convey that with just my first word, "True", but evidently didn't. Or maybe you think I'm breezing by it too fast, treating it as a minor correction when you think it's major and deserves more discussion? you wrote "True, but" which curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/12
From: https://youtu.be/geLHuY-QJM0?list=PLKx6lO5RmaesaCfm2dXGUfbycDYEXJoU9 At 41.35: "Before I can send something like this I have to read the rest of the email" You're paying particular attention to being thorough in checking the email about SN Screencast of my Objectivism Discussion Thinking and Writing Process 2017/01/12
Yes, I agree that earning more income, managing finances, doing my job, etc. will not happen automatically. I intended to convey that with just my first word, "True", but evidently didn't. Or maybe you think I'm breezing by it too fast, treating it AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/12
> True, but I don't think I conveyed the nature of my situation correctly. There's lots of aspects but the easiest to describe is financial. no that's not it. you misunderstood me. you wrote: > I think another key consideration is I expect thing curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/11
> life isn't automatic and there are lots of ways you could fuck up the next few years True, but I don't think I conveyed the nature of my situation correctly. There's lots of aspects but the easiest to describe is financial. Over the next 10 ye AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/11
most people get stuck trying to make some bit of finite progress (e.g. understand Popper). this indicates their inability to make unbounded progress! (without way more resources). lots of people don't want to. that's also a problem they have that g curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/11
OK, I think I'm in broad agreement about the current state of reality. Regardless of what I might be able to do with infinite time, I don't have infinite time. So the important question in reality is: how much progress can I make in the time I expect AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/11
long story short, i think people who are able to make progress do. DD is stuck because he can't deal with some problems. it's not that he doesn't want to. *he doesn't know how*. people quit trying to learn Popper/Rand/FI/etc b/c they don't know curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/09
@quitting FI, I have been thinking in terms of giving up and quitting on progress being different than not being able to make progress. Like for example, I think DD could make progress if he wanted to, he has just currently quit/given up on FI. He did AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/09
doubts curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/09
Trello is for processes that you're not sure yet about the right way to manage. Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2017/01/09
> AnonITA expressed doubts about his ability to make progress. That wasn't my intent. Can you quote what I said that you think indicated such doubts? I'm actually confident about my ability to make progress. As I said in #8150: > I think there AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/09
@#8197 you can't short link to other threads. i don't think i should add that feature cuz i think ppl seeing a short comment link would expect it refers to a prior comment from this discussion, so it'd be misleading (even though i'm using global comme curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/09
#8201 or use higher level programming constructs like map instead of manual, numerical array indexes? curi Open Discussion 2017/01/09
Indices point between elements Alisa Open Discussion 2017/01/08
life is a RACE against problems curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/08
gradualism Alisa Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/08
From: http://fallibleideas.com/lulie/procrastination > People procrastinate because they are pessimistic about problem solving. They don't think there are any solutions, any ways forward, that won't hurt. If they knew a way to proceed that would in Anon69 Open Discussion 2017/01/08
Just realized the comment reference above didn't work. Full link to the original desert crossing metaphor is: http://curi.us/1896-fallible-ideas-unstructured-discussion#c8170 AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/08
I think we agree on much of the **big picture**, but one thing stands out to me as a possible misunderstanding or disagreement. The metaphor of crossing a desert mentioned in #8170 seems appropriate in some ways to the way I think. I know some of t AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/08
>> I don't mind indirection as long as I can make progress with it. > you mean as long as you can make progress on it within 3 days? this statement seems incompatible with your prior statement about giving up. I wouldn't put a time on it, but sa SN Indirection 2017/01/08
#8166 > eeeee senpai said it was a good idea ^.^ > (brought to you from watching tons of anime lately, and still trying to work out how to think about someone who I respect) I want to add to this, since it could mean some bad stuff on the face Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2017/01/08
boldly, forward curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/08
> do you have a system of rationalizations to feel OK about this non-truth-oriented approach? or you hadn't thought about it a lot before? I hadn't thought about it a lot before; especially hadn't thought about it applying to me. Thinking explic AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/08
> There are 3 groups of people I think I care about seeing me as a successful person those all sound like groups that routinely have *false* opinions. there's something i've never understood about putting popularity before truth. i think it's wh curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/07
> *whose* opinions do you *respect*, who thinks this way? or are you non-specifically trying to impress no one in particular that you don't respect the judgement of? I think it's fairly specific. There are 3 groups of people I think I care about se AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/07
> How much I'm currently motivated by things other than to be seen as a successful person is not clear to me. I can't put my finger on any right now. I kinda suspect there's very little. idk about "very little". then why would you participate at FI curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/07
> And I think a good portion (though perhaps not all) of the reason I'd feel like a failure despite intellectual arguments to the contrary is social. I think that other people would see the result as a failure rather than something worthy of being pro curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/07
I've been thinking some more about this. Why don't I know if I want to fix this particular secondhanded idea about wanting to be seen as successful? Liking and wanting the image of a successful person plays a role in the best explanation for som AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/07
anger is very bad Anonymous Open Discussion 2017/01/07
> that's a pain point you could want to fix. Yes, I could want to fix it. In some sense just spelling it out plainly and honestly is helpful. It's one thing to vaguely know I've got secondhanded ideas. It's another to clearly identify one and b AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/06
so rather than figuring out how to work on the problem of dying, work on the problem of learning on how to live? iow, learn how not to be a secondhander. that's a pain point you could want to fix. Kate Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/06
> but basically you're wrong. I agree - intellectually. But the issue was about how I would feel. It was: > i'm guessing if 100 people worked on 100 leads, and you were one of them, and 5 of the leads bore major fruit, and you did one of the fruit AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/06
yeah i meant it's organized as one big project, on purpose. not just 100 smaller independent projects happen to accomplish this. but basically you're wrong. if reasonable ppl including advocates of Y think that X and Y are two roughly equally good curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/05
> i'm guessing if 100 people worked on 100 leads, and you were one of them, and 5 of the leads bore major fruit, and you did one of the fruitless leads ... you'd still feel proud and accomplished as part of the overall project. Interesting hypothet AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/05
where exactly is Nic Babb's effort to get nearer to the truth? Anonymous pasting from aim is easy :-) 2017/01/05
there's degrees of difficulty. maybe most people work on 20-100 difficulty stuff and you work on 250. but preventing aging deaths with SENS is like 50k difficulty. it's so hard and important that 1% is a big deal. it's more than 100x harder and the im curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/05
"make a difference" in my way of thinking (perhaps incorrect) implicitly includes "good chance". I don't think of a small chance to make a difference as "making a difference". > working on very hard problems doesn't allow the luxury of low varian AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/05
people are so mean and angry. in Overwatch someone started yelling at me (in voice chat) for not playing as well as he wanted. (i don't think his judgement of my play or his was accurate at all, but never mind.) this is distracting. it's not going curi Open Discussion 2017/01/05
How do you distinguish a good scientific hypothesis from a crack-pot theory? Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2017/01/05
#8174 right. philosophy is similar. curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2017/01/05
Philip Gibbs on the lack of a foundation of mathematics Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2017/01/05
Calculate the square root with arithmetic and harmonic means Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2017/01/05
vixra.org Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2017/01/05
Philip E. Gibbs on "crackpots who were right" Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2017/01/04
“crackpots” who were right 16: Barbara McClintock Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2017/01/04
Philip E. Gibbs on "crackpots who were right" Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2017/01/04
Philip E. Gibbs on "crackpots who were right" Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2017/01/04
hai Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2017/01/04
eeeee senpai said it was a good idea ^.^ (brought to you from watching tons of anime lately, and still trying to work out how to think about someone who I respect) Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2017/01/04
>> It was weird to read something like this by you. > NO ONE UNDERSTANDS ME. ahem. Heh. I think I'd like to. > i'm not mad. i'm very calm. check out my youtube videos where i write emails. let me know if you find a single time you think i'm SN [Excerpt] curi: You should write a split personalit... 2017/01/04
> > > And I doubt my ability to get good enough, fast enough, to make a difference. > > you could aim for at least a 1 in 100 chance to significantly help with one important sub-problem of SENS > This is not at all what I'd call a "good chance" curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/04
> do you agree it's true for some meaning of those words? if they refer to larger quantities than ur standard terminology. Tentatively yes, depending on what "good chance" means. > you could aim for at least a 1 in 100 chance to significantly h AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/04
> does that mean you should refrain from talking about the deep ideas, and instead do more smalltalk stuff first? no Anonymous [Excerpt] Every time we tell someone personal detai... 2017/01/03
> I don't mind indirection as long as I can make progress with it. you mean as long as you can make progress on it within 3 days? this statement seems incompatible with your prior statement about giving up. finding out something is wrong has var curi Indirection 2017/01/03
> I don't believe this. Maybe because my standards for interested, energetic, motivated and stuff are too low. do you agree it's true for some meaning of those words? if they refer to larger quantities than ur standard terminology. > And I doubt curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/03
> I actually do think of choosing a less valuable activity as destroying value though. but then virtually everything that anyone ever does is destroying value. e.g. everything i've ever written destroyed value because i didn't write something be curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/03
> @dying you would have a good chance to do something relevant, with a chance to help, if you focused on it (and wanted to and were interested, energetic, motivated and stuff). I don't believe this. Maybe because my standards for interested, energe AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/03
Your example math is roughly what I had in mind. The value of the next best incompatible option (with no opportunity cost) is the opportunity cost for each option. Among incompatible items, this leaves one with a positive value. But I was never tha AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/03
what problem does thinking about opportunity cost solve if you already are comparing things and picking the best one? isn't the purpose of talking about opportunity cost to address idiots who neglect to do comparisons and just look at one thing in Anonymous Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/03
it's linked at http://fallibleideas.com/discussion-info guess sidebar is a good idea tho. i'll make a new empty one first. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2017/01/03
you'll like this post: http://curi.us/658-split-post i'm willing to grant that i'm sometimes "critical" and "blunt" and "sometimes pretty harsh" without any quotes. i find those comments fair. i don't demand quotes for everything just to hass curi [Excerpt] curi: You should write a split personalit... 2017/01/03
say you have 4 incompatible options with the following values before factoring in opportunity cost. You get to do exactly one of these: A: 8 B: 6 D: 4 E: 2 What calculation do you want to be done for opportunity cost? Is it subtract the value curi Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/03
FYI I own the BoI site and email list. DD's position on meta was common knowledge on the AOL TCS list where he wrote many posts and the moderators frequently rejected posts according to a poorly-defined anti meta discussion rule, and DD more or les curi Meta Discussion Isn't Bad 2017/01/03
Not inherently. Nothing about being harsh makes something more or less clear. You can be unclear while being harsh too. I think harsh is a side-trait to a statement. It's irrelevant to whether a statement is true or false. In general I think it' Anonymous [Excerpt] curi: You should write a split personalit... 2017/01/03
Problems to solve AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/03
>> High level, where my approach to pursuing values in life goes beyond emotions, automatized habits, and cultural defaults I think my approach is: estimate the value of a thing, estimate the cost, and if value > cost do it and if cost > value don't d AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2017/01/03
Harsh = clear Anonymous [Excerpt] curi: You should write a split personalit... 2017/01/03
Quote? No. I'd have to go through a ton of emails and stuff to find them (and the details are not fresh in my mind anyway, so it would take even longer), doesn't seem like a good use of my time. Do you disagree that curi is sometimes harsh? Or do y Anonymous [Excerpt] curi: You should write a split personalit... 2017/01/03
> I think I misinterpret you being critical and blunt (and sometimes pretty harsh) as you being unhappy/upset/annoyed. Can you quote some of the things he said that you thought was harsh? FF [Excerpt] curi: You should write a split personalit... 2017/01/03
Lol That was fun Do you think writing stuff like this is bad now? Or do you get as much fun from writing serious philosophy now as you seemed to get from when you wrote stuff like this? Or have you decided just not to do stuff like this he Anonymous [Excerpt] curi: You should write a split personalit... 2017/01/03
This is supposed to be a thread where anyone can just start discussion about anything? It's not accessible and that defeats the purpose. The only people who would post here are people who already know about it isn't on recent posts anymore. I Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2017/01/03
I get stuck with indirection when I consistently fail to make progress. If I try new solutions to a problem a few times and don't get the right answer, then get hopeless and give up. I don't mind indirection as long as I can make progress with it. SN Indirection 2017/01/03
Found mention of it here: http://beginningofinfinity.com/list_guidelines But that page isn't even linked to anywhere on the site, suggesting it's not in active use. Plus it doesn't explain what's wrong with it. Anonymous Meta Discussion Isn't Bad 2017/01/03
Where does DD say meta discussion is bad? (have read BoI and can't remember it from there, did I miss something?) Anonymous Meta Discussion Isn't Bad 2017/01/03
@TEDTalks wrote on Twitter: > Is it better to take one long vacation or a few short ones? Let's check the research: http://ideas.ted.com/the-secrets-to-a-truly-restorative-vacation/ Translation: "Are you are super conventional and super bad a curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2017/01/02
> High level, where my approach to pursuing values in life goes beyond emotions, automatized habits, and cultural defaults I think my approach is: estimate the value of a thing, estimate the cost, and if value > cost do it and if cost > value don't do curi Scheduling and Thinking 2016/12/31
> do you think that doing better quality thinking wouldn't be valuable to you, or that you don't know how to approach and achieve it, or something else? I ran into lots of confusion just unpacking this question and considering it, let alone answeri AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2016/12/31
> Do you ignore hunger in those 16 hours? no, if i'm hungry i eat. i'm rarely hungry for 4 hours after i wake up, and sometimes longer. and i often don't eat within 2-4 hours before going to sleep, and sometimes longer. especially when i have large curi Scheduling and Thinking 2016/12/31
> i take it you eat breakfast too. i routinely go over 16 hours without eating. e.g. 8pm large meal with no snack later on wouldn't be unusual. then i rarely have breakfast or a morning snack, might eat at 2pm the next day. sometimes i go like 22 hour FF Scheduling and Thinking 2016/12/31
the morning scheduling idea was only intended for stuff you already want to do and will do. i agree it doesn't address mixed feelings about doing some activity in the first place. never wanting to go back to stuff in a "queue" is pretty typical for curi Scheduling and Thinking 2016/12/31
The real issue AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2016/12/31
If I was going to get up at 4am I'd need to plan bed time at 7:30pm allowing for get ready / fall asleep time and wake up time. One of the nap problems would still apply - People outside think it's fine to make noise until about 9-10pm. They call & ri AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2016/12/31
i don't see an easy fix here given the 12 hour work day. (i understand the breaks help with many things, but not with this). with an 8 hour work day it'd be far easier to have 2-4 hours before work! waking up 1-2 hours before work and being *selfis curi Scheduling and Thinking 2016/12/30
Sleep schedule AnonITA Scheduling and Thinking 2016/12/30
i stopped following politics much after the election. i haven't really been paying enough attention to comment on russia and syria current events. curi Lying CNN 2016/12/29
Russia Heavy Metal Lying CNN 2016/12/29
W. Edwards Deming quote Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/28
Checklist approach to knowledge PAS Exceptions To Explanations 2016/12/28
Checklist approach to knowledge Alisa Exceptions To Explanations 2016/12/28
skimmed some more. lots of bad things. some good and ok things too. maybe the most interesting thing about it is this: i think most friendly, positive readers i have basically can't tell the difference between it and my essays. they read superfi curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/26
https://www.principles.com/#Part-2 > At that time the Beatles had made a trip to India to learn how to meditate, which triggered my interest, so I learned how to meditate. It helped me think more clearly and creatively, so I’m sure that enhanced curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/26
> What do you think of the youtube comments below his video? didn't read. i have read some youtube comments in the past. i know it's not the place to get quality economics comments and didn't have some other reason to read them. i am unsurprised by curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/26
What do you think of the youtube comments below his video? I found them to be too toxic. They will burn civilization down if they get a chance.. FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/26
https://www.principles.com/#Introduction > Until recently, I didn’t write out these principles because I felt that it was presumptuous for me to tell others what would work best for them. jeez, so bad. > I also believe that those principle curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/26
also Dalio is a lot less ambitious than me. he works on easier and less important problems. so much lower standards can be somewhat effective for him and unappealing to me. curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/26
i haven't read much of it. he says some good things. i guess he does them within some small, parochial limits, which sucks but beats competitors who don't do them at all. curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/26
I was reading Principles.com a lot yesterday.. I wanted you to commment about it. Strange co-incidence that you read it at the same time. FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/26
you can email me. curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/26
Rami said that I am causing more problems by commenting here about the incident and that I should have emailed you. I told him I am not allowed to email you. What should I do? FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/26
no. curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/26
> just ignore her. i've deleted some of her comments now and i'm adding some new security measures. Will the security measures restrict the freedom for the rest of us? FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/26
just ignore her. i've deleted some of her comments now and i'm adding some new security measures. curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/26
richard did you give up? you have been super AFK from FI. Anonymous Sous Vide 2016/12/26
> 90 minutes is pretty long compared to traditional cooking methods for steak - if you grill or fry a steak you can be done in 10-15mins. What do you think about that? i usually care far more about time where i have to do stuff, not lead time. l curi Sous Vide 2016/12/26
I will not talk to her without your permission. I don't want to get banned. FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/26
Can I reply to the above? I need to clarify things.. FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/26
90 minutes is pretty long compared to traditional cooking methods for steak - if you grill or fry a steak you can be done in 10-15mins. What do you think about that? For searing: if you sear the steak afterwards, it will look more like a traditiona Richard Fine Sous Vide 2016/12/26
i bet sous vide is a good way to reheat steak if you have a significant amount of leftovers. normally i find reheating steak ends up overcooking it. Anonymous Sous Vide 2016/12/25
the reddit guy quoted in #8021 deleted his comment and provided this explanation https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5jqe0i/french_mayor_under_arrest_for_acknowledging_that/dbicaic/#dbj0d16 >I deleted it because I have been going back Anonymous Immigration 2016/12/25
> I talked to a fake name some hours back and Elliot warned me for the last time. I will get banned even if I talk to a fake name used by LG. you talked to a fake name *which you believed was Leonor*. if you believe it's Rami it's ok. curi Social Awkwardness Example 2016/12/25
> you seem to be not differentiating between cases where (A) you talk to LG and you know you're talking to her, and cases where (B) you talk to LG and you don't know you're talking to her. I make guesses to know whether or not I am talking to her. FF Social Awkwardness Example 2016/12/25
#8094 >> What makes you think it isn't safe? > Leonor might be tricking me to reply by using your name. Anybody can sign "Rami" there. > I talked to a fake name some hours back and Elliot warned me for the last time. I will get banned even if Rami Social Awkwardness Example 2016/12/25
> What makes you think it isn't safe? Leonor might be tricking me to reply by using your name. Anybody can sign "Rami" there. I talked to a fake name some hours back and Elliot warned me for the last time. I will get banned even if I talk to a f FF Social Awkwardness Example 2016/12/25
8092 is me Rami Social Awkwardness Example 2016/12/25
Rami Anonymous Social Awkwardness Example 2016/12/25
> 8083 is me Why didn't you sign? I don't think it is safe to discuss here. Can I reply to that over email? FF Social Awkwardness Example 2016/12/25
8083 is me Rami Social Awkwardness Example 2016/12/25
Elliot mentioned that LEONOR GOMES used VPN. When did she use VPN? I do not remember any such incident. FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
lol Anonymous Social Awkwardness Example 2016/12/25
> What are you afraid of? I mean like what's the worst that can happen? Are you LEONOR GOMES? I am not allowed to talk to LEONOR GOMES > Why do you panic? Are you LEONOR GOMES? I am not allowed to talk to LEONOR GOMES > What are you afrai FF Social Awkwardness Example 2016/12/25
> i'm lost. just ignore it i guess. To whom are you replying to? FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
i'm lost. just ignore it i guess. curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
FF Why do you panic? What are you afraid of? I mean like what's the worst that can happen? Anonymous Social Awkwardness Example 2016/12/25
If anyone uses my signature to troll here.. It is not me.. Someone above has started using my signature with a no.. He/she may remove the number and pretend to me.. I cannot be online 24/7 to deny trolling. FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
Don't use my signature please.. FF doesn't care if anyone sends emails to Elliot. FF is an anon. FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
Is it rational to pressure others to either talk to you or talk to Leonor? Don't they need the freedom to talk to both to know to judge who is worth talking to? Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
You can't really ban people from the Internet, though. FF3 Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
Leonor could forward any emails sent to her to Elliot and screenshots. Leonor doesn't talk to Tessa. I don't understand why Elliot think she does. FF2 Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
> Banning anyone who talks with Leonor is a great idea. You will find traitors very quickly. I don't know if it is a great idea. Elliot doesn't have access to email accounts of Tessa, Rami or me He cannot see the conversations we have with LE FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
Banning anyone who talks with Leonor is a great idea. You will find traitors very quickly. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
Comment section still working? Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
^ FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
Comment section still working? Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
> then you will be banned. last chance not to associate with leonor. Okay I will stop talking.. You deal with her.. Its your blog.. Your servers.. Your Leonor Hahaha. Your Leonor Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
> Why don't you read Popper, David Horowitz, Szaz, Godwin and mises if you like Elliot's ideas so much? Maybe those books are too hard for her. Maybe they don't address her problems. Maybe Leonor likes to learn from Elliot and his examples. Maybe Leonor is dead Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
you'll need to block her on facebook, twitter, skype, etc, and email. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
> then you will be banned. last chance not to associate with leonor. Okay I will stop talking.. You deal with her.. Its your blog.. Your servers.. Your Leonor FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
> You believe "The Real John Galt" is leonor, then replied to her. I didn't know talking to anons publicly would also count as talking to LEONOR FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
#8066 then you will be banned. last chance not to associate with leonor. curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
> FF, you just agreed not to speak to Leonor. That is my guess.. I am not sure. I will not talk to LEONOR the real person behind emails.. I will talk to anon accounts by LEONOR to observe FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
> You believe "The Real John Galt" is leonor, then replied to her. Hahaha! So? FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
Why don't you read Popper, David Horowitz, Szaz, Godwin and mises if you like Elliot's ideas so much? Also Make a deal with Elliot and find out what counts as harassment in his book and not do it. FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
> FF, you just agreed not to speak to Leonor. You believe "The Real John Galt" is leonor, then replied to her. Hahaha! Jim Taggart Rules the World Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
FF, you just agreed not to speak to Leonor. You believe "The Real John Galt" is leonor, then replied to her. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
Correction: not interesting = not interested FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
#8054 > It was because FF was talking to Leonor that you could get information that allowed you to know it was her posting.You're basically firing your best spy. My job isn't to spy on people. I am not good at spying and not interesting in such FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
How do you stop dealing with Leonor and talking about Leonor without asking questions to know if it's Leonor you are talking with or not? Can you take legal action for her to leave you alone? Why would Leonor leave you alone willingly? You're The Real John Galt Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
The Real John Galt is LG FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
Nobody calls me a spy or knows anything about the sketches other than her. FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
#8054 might be Leonor Gomes. I am 60% percent sure. FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
i don't want to spy on leonor. i don't want to associate with leonor, such as by asking her questions to find out if she is or isn't leonor. i don't want to compete in games of wits with leonor. i don't want to think about leonor, like what h curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
You're making a mistake banning people if they associate with Leonor. It was because FF was talking to Leonor that you could get information that allowed you to know it was her posting. You're basically firing your best spy. If you have conce The Real John Galt Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/25
Doesn't your McDonald's have Experience of the Future yet? EotF Social Awkwardness Example 2016/12/24
I am okay with not associating with her till she solves her problems with you. Don't ban me. FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/24
> FF, i made myself clear. you and rami need to block all emails from her (don't even read them) or you're banned. you may not associate with my harasser and with me. you have not given an actual reply to this. I don't reply to most LG's emails lik FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/24
she knows it's absolutely not OK to speak to me with a fake name. she's trying to hurt me. i banned her because she was doing harm and i need her to leave. among other things she kept trying on many occasions to hurt FI people (me and others). F curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/24
> FF your choices are to cut all contact with Leonor, cut all contact with me, or get her to leave me the fuck alone. If she won't leave me the fuck alone, you should not be willing to interact with her. She is a thug who a force-use who keeps persist FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/24
All Leonor Associates Are Now Banned curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/24
> you're saying Tavi = Leo Yes FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/24
you're saying Tavi = Leo, and she's lying about being new? curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/24
> oh, doh. i guessed mostly non-socialist from having read some Rand, speaking about Rand positively without expressing any hatred, and apparently liking lots of FI ideas. You are talking to the banned member. She loves both Rand and socialism. FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/24
I do most of my shopping online.. I take way too long to order. I look at the menus for 1+ hours sometimes. I panic when they come to take my order so I order what I ate the last time and feel extremely sad that I missed out getting something new FF Social Awkwardness Example 2016/12/24
I think lots of people feel awkward if they look at the menu too long. I mean like if there is no one else in line and the cashier is waiting for you to order, staring at you. And you're standing there looking at the menu. Lots of people would feel aw Anonymous Social Awkwardness Example 2016/12/24
oh, doh. i guessed mostly non-socialist from having read some Rand, speaking about Rand positively without expressing any hatred, and apparently liking lots of FI ideas. curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/24
The conversations went this way FF: Capitalism is good. It creates good stuff. It is better than socialism/communism where a small pie is shared inefficiently with tons of people. Capitalism helps in creating tons of cheap pies. ( bad explanation I FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/24
> i figured you don't cherish socialism. am i mistaken? i didn't think this example would work for all people. She does cherish socialism. I have suffered a lot discussing capitalism with her. I don't do that anymore. FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/24
> Is it possible to learn something with less criticism? How does that work? well, the less you make false claims, the less criticism you can expect. questions help here since they claim less, especially honest curious questions (some people disgui curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/24
#8036 >> Why couldn't someone else find value in reading them as well? > i read fantasy novels in general. it's a long time hobby. i would not have read these books if i didn't have multiple separate interests in them. i also wouldn't have read th Tavi, Amara or whoever Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/24
> As you **life** a life using traditional knowledge, if you're thoughtful you'll notice some other problems (things go wrong when living traditionally), and learn about some problems from non-traditional sources, and you'll work on solving those prob FF Fallible Ideas Email: Figuring out what you want from a discussion 2016/12/24
> Why couldn't someone else find value in reading them as well? i read fantasy novels in general. it's a long time hobby. i would not have read these books if i didn't have multiple separate interests in them. i also wouldn't have read them withou curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/24
#8032 > the problem is: is there a good way to talk about some comments on the books i had? my email considered several approaches and pointed out problems with them. So you do want to talk about some comments on the books. In the post https:// Tavi, Amara or whoever Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/24
people are very incompetent about asserting themselves. and the normal thing people do to get along with others socially is everyone tries to hide conflict, rather than speak openly or directly about problems or disagreements. there's a lot of p curi Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/23
i didn't issue an invitation to Rami. FI is a public group. Rami can therefore post. And I can make decisions about which posts not to read, which to write meta replies to, which to reply directly to, which to write long replies to, which to focus curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/23
#8027 the problem is: is there a good way to talk about some comments on the books i had? my email considered several approaches and pointed out problems with them. you have not replied about what kinda study you've done to understand philosophi curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/23
>> would you recommend a parent talks like this to a child? wouldn't it be abusive in that context? > > Why are you bringing that up? Elliot is not Rami's parent. Because I thought TCS was broader than how to relate with children. I thought it wa Plonk Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/23
#8029 > from: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/fallible-ideas/conversations/messages/19595 >> you don't try to learn. so you're a useless waste of time who should be given up on > would you recommend a parent talks like this to a child? wou Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/23
from: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/fallible-ideas/conversations/messages/19595 > you don't try to learn. so you're a useless waste of time who should be given up on would you recommend a parent talks like this to a child? wouldn't it be a Plonk Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/23
> when do you expect to continue? you implied the only stopper was you went to sleep. that was 36 hours ago and you still haven't proceeded to reply to the stuff "A Popperian" wrote. nor have you replied to e.g. "Negative emotions are a big concern fo Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/23
ok, i agree it was a stupid idea. i thought you wanted people to read the books in order to discuss the issues you wanted to discuss. i don't understand your problem at all. what is your problem? how do you expect me to know i made a mistake in Tavi, Amara or whoever Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/23
in my post i wrote > but who wants to read ~800k words for some examples? this did not mean, as you misread, that i thought anyone should do that. i actually don't think it'd be worth the time for someone to do that. there's higher priorities curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/23
> I wasn't shutting down discussion. I went to sleep. I accepted your criticism. I am still open to the discussion. when do you expect to continue? you implied the only stopper was you went to sleep. that was 36 hours ago and you still haven't proc Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/22
answers to questions posed? Anonymous Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/22
Theory Q: "There exists a theory A and it consists of [the full contents of theory A go here]. There exists a theory B and it consists of [full contents of B here]. [etc]" contradictory theories A and B can both be contained in Q, like this. you se Anonymous Using False Theories 2016/12/22
> > > My contention here, is that the explanation of the boundary is outside the theory. > > what problem are you trying to solve by this separation? > It avoids U being contradictory. i think you dropped the context, then misunderstood what Anonymous Using False Theories 2016/12/22
media lies that most terrorists in the US are White Americans Alisa Immigration 2016/12/22
This was my understanding of your post https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/fallible-ideas/conversations/messages/19509: You read part of a book series and find the book flaws interesting to discuss. Your problem is that quoting from the book wouldn Tavi, Amara or whoever Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/22
Furthermore there is a distinct difference between The theory that A, B, C, D, E, F, G are theories. Since this theory contains the 7 existential statements. It just says there exists 7 theories. It does not contain those theories. It contains Anonymous Using False Theories 2016/12/22
>I think A, B, C, D, E, F, G are theories. >And B could refute A. Yes, but this contains the implicit assumption that all of these theories are seperate - it is a conjecture about the theories. A theory we use for prediction is not a theory about Anonymous Using False Theories 2016/12/22
There is a further problem which is solved in the above way, I mentioned. Which is you could say that U is a theory which contains R, which is a new theory, created from the subset of true statements of T, in this way U does not contain T and -T. Bec Anonymous Using False Theories 2016/12/22
>what problem are you trying to solve by this separation? It avoids U being contradictory. If U asserts that the theory T is false, which is just equivalent to ~T, then it contains ~T. But U also contains (or asserts) T. So U cannot also assert Anonymous Using False Theories 2016/12/22
> The example of the guitarist. Every comment has a number. Like this #8013 Why don't you use those? FF Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/22
I have tried having conversations with them.. I agree with them a lot and ask many questions. Most scammers reach me through skype or fb. It is interesting to see them build one lie upon another. FF iMessages Scammer 2016/12/22
>Who are you? You say "my examples" but you don't identify yourself, so there's no way to know which examples you're referring to. The example of the guitarist. Anonymous Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/22
>in other words, a person who learned some skills has some skills. Yes, well this is true. But we are talking about how the skills are aquired and what they allow us to do. Anonymous Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/22
> My examples were illustrative of the same things. Who are you? You say "my examples" but you don't identify yourself, so there's no way to know which examples you're referring to. Anonymous Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/22
>"Human sensation is well known to be unreliable: that sensations are in any way authoritative is contradicted not only by scientific investigation, physiological studies of the brain and sense organs, optical illusion, and such like, but also by ordi Anonymous Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/22
> I think authoritative in his sense, it just to say that your discernment improves the more you critically engage with a problem. or in other words > ... just to say that your **skill** improves the more you **learn more skill**. I'm still n curi Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/21
> I'm guessing he couldn't follow it because he didn't notice it. Did that possibility occur to you? yes. curi Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/21
> why were you unable to follow it? I'm guessing he couldn't follow it because he didn't notice it. Did that possibility occur to you? Anonymous Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/21
a source link was provided above along with that quote. why were you unable to follow it? i'm lost. from my perspective you seem grossly incompetent. that's a sign there's a big misunderstanding or something is going wrong. so i want to figure out wha curi Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/21
>> > A good example is winetasting: the connoisseur knows what to look for and how to describe both what he searches for and what he experiences. His sensations are, as a result of cultivation, made more authoritative. The passage you quoted here i Anonymous Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/21
anon wrote: > > A theory cannot contain a theory and it's refutation. It would be a contradiction. anon wrote: > You are the one that said contains. you are not paying attention. this seems like a waste of time > I am just trying to poi Anonymous Using False Theories 2016/12/21
>what is your point? my point came right after the sentence you quoted,. >"and you're still reusing the word "contains" wrong, when you mean *asserts*." You are the one that said contains. > Theory U contains in it theory T, but also so Anonymous Using False Theories 2016/12/21
> My contention here, is that the explanation of the boundary is outside the theory. what problem are you trying to solve by this separation? generally you can divide up ideas in lots of different ways, some are useful, and some aren't. you seem curi Using False Theories 2016/12/21
> All I mean to say is that U is not true, if it contains a theory and it's refutation. what is your point? and you're still reusing the word "contains" wrong, when you mean *asserts*. you seem to be replying to some non-quoted previous material Anonymous Using False Theories 2016/12/21
My contention here, is that the explanation of the boundary is outside the theory. Anonymous Using False Theories 2016/12/21
not exactly the same way. you need a theory of how to use it which isn't refuted. you can't use the original. you need a theory like "Newton's laws are refuted in general, but still work to solve the following problems... because..." but we are sti Anonymous Using False Theories 2016/12/21
>nonsense. e.g. a theory can look like this: I think A, B, C, D, E, F, G are theories. And B could refute A. plus contradiction doesn't prevent something from being a theory. lots of theories are wrong. you even immediately state that not only are t Anonymous Using False Theories 2016/12/21
It do want to add something that might be useful, though this pronlem has not been solved yet, if a theory has a true and false content (ie it is false) we can sequester the true statements and the true statements together would constitute another tru Anonymous Using False Theories 2016/12/21
also #7994 you don't quote anything which leaves it really unclear what you're replying to or what your point is supposed to be. e.g. did you think a particular idea written somewhere above was wrong? which idea and why is it wrong? curi Using False Theories 2016/12/21
> A theory cannot contain a theory and it's refutation. It would be a contradiction. nonsense. e.g. a theory can look like this: I think A, B, C, D, E, F, G are theories. And B could refute A. plus contradiction doesn't prevent something from curi Using False Theories 2016/12/21
A theory cannot contain a theory and it's refutation. It would be a contradiction. And we are quite well served by false theories. Newton's theiory was used for ages without being know to be false, but it was still false. We did not use the theory Anonymous Using False Theories 2016/12/21
#7992 what are you replying to? the blog post? a comment? i'm also unclear on your point. it'd help if you organized your writing in sentences. i think you were careless in writing this which is why the grammar is wrong. Anonymous Limits of Critical Discussion? 2016/12/21
Isn't one of the ways to learn through trying to apply your current uncriticised theories to existing unsolved problems, those problems can be found even in people who have mistaken ideas who try to solve those problems with mistaken ideas. Anonymous Limits of Critical Discussion? 2016/12/21
why can't you find it? curi Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/21
Physical determinism is compatible with time-asymmetric physics. So the statement: > Physical determinism does not imply that we can calculate what the past was like based on the present. is true. Popper wrote: > > physical determinism imp curi Popper Mistaken About Physical Determinism 2016/12/21
> I cannot find the Bartley passage. I think it might be helpful to put in what the example is an example of. Could you quote it? which passage? curi Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/21
regarding early concession issue: what about post mortem? any thoughts on what mistakes you made (what went wrong) and how to improve in the future? do you think this is an isolated error with nothing to learn that applies elsewhere? i'd be init curi Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/21
There are not laws that are irreversible. This is currently a major area of research. All laws of physics, as far as I know, are time-symmetric. Your example is an example in maths, not in physical laws. Anonymous Popper Mistaken About Physical Determinism 2016/12/21
I think he also wrong to suggest that it is past evidence that determines the severity of the test. It is background knowledge. Which are themselves conjectures that theory we are testing, if true, would render false. Anonymous Low Quality Criticism of Popper 2016/12/21
Popper's being silly. He's being like "one of the things they wanted was freedom, and i agree with freedom". zzzz i doubt Popper understands the French Revolution, but he just barely mentions it in passing here so you can't really tell. curi Three Criticisms of Popper 2016/12/21
I think he also wrong to suggest that it is past evidence that determines the severity of the test. It is background knowledge. Which are themselves conjectures that there we are testing, if true, would render false. Anonymous Low Quality Criticism of Popper 2016/12/21
you don't seem to have a good grasp of what i said in my email or how your proposal would address the problems i raised. could you go through and quote the relevant parts, write your interpretation of the problems, and then explain how your proposal s curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/21
I agree with the claim that the French and American revolutions were very different in intent. Do,you think that Popper is wrong to assert that the idea he agrees with inspired the French Revolution? Your criticism does not seem to directly contrad Anonymous Three Criticisms of Popper 2016/12/21
Yes, let's discuss it to a conclusion. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/21
> Would it be useful to ask your parents about those first 5 years? 1) they don't know the answer. 2) questions along these lines are often have a misconception behind them about there being one or two crucial events that could work for other pe curi Ideas Matter 2016/12/21
#7978 would you say you've carefully and seriously thought this through, you're confident of your idea, you very much want to discuss this matter to a conclusion including all tangents wherever they lead, and you'd learn a large amount if you're mista curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/21
Do it in parts, chapter by chapter. Or do it in a blog, chapter by chapter. Why is it a problem if it's long? Do you want to talk about it or not? What is that you want? For people to read the books? Then what? They know the context and then can Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/21
>> How did you survive parenting and become different? > i don't know. i have very little memory of age 0-4. 5 years is a long time, especially when you're a kid. a lot happened in those 5 years. Would it be useful to ask your parents about those Anonymous Ideas Matter 2016/12/21
> i said i'm trying to find awesome people. i am trying. what more do you want!? i wasn't criticizing you, but your followers. sorry for the misunderstanding. Anonymous Ideas Matter 2016/12/21
I cannot find the Bartley passage. I think it might be helpful to put in what the example is an example of. Could you quote it? Andrew Crawshaw Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/21
> We cannot conjecture both that the theory is true and that its predictions are reliable It is meant to say unreliable. But I am not making myself clear at all. I will try again. I think authoritative in his sense, it just to say that your d Anonymous Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/21
> And if it is true that his understanding is true, then we can conclude that his discernments are reliable. Until,we have a criticism. This is not an epistemological claim about the theory. This comment does not refer to Bartley but the wine taste Anonymous Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/21
"So you think Bartley meant that people who develop skills are more skilled at those skills?" This question is unclear, it seems to contain the tautology that people who develop skills, develop those skills. Yes, exposure to the problem is a nec Andrew Crawshaw Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/21
>It's easy to be mistaken about what's relevant to a topic. Yes, I agree. But this applies to everything and I was not denying it. It does not follow that I was in fact mistaken about it being irrelevant. Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/21
Restriction is too coarse a word. I just mean to put aside as currently unproblematic. I did not just ignore him, I read through it and conjectured that it was unproblematic and could be put aside. My communication of it was outright bad, I admit. Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/21
> CR attitude would be like: something seems off to you like their reply misses the point, so there's a disagreement or misunderstanding, some mistake somewhere, time to work together to look for it. It is okay to set aside some problems in order t Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/21
>CR doesn't do discussion rules where you can only talk about certain things at certain times or in certain venues. It's more fluid than that Of course, but it also requires judgement as to whether what the person is saying is relevant or not. A ju Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/21
Yes, sorry, curi. I only realised there was another in the discussion, after. Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/21
> this is a classic early concession which sabotages learning. it's a way to shut down discussion by conceding one thing which you still don't understand (having not actually talked it out enough to resolve the various misunderstandings, share all the Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/21
> I wasn't shutting down discussion. I went to sleep. I accepted your criticism. I am still open to the discussion. please don't attribute other people's comments to me. curi Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/21
I wasn't shutting down discussion. I went to sleep. I accepted your criticism. I am still open to the discussion. Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/21
> I accept your criticism of my interpretation, actually. That his suggestion that it is silly to question, or pointless, does not really indicate that he thinks they are not, in principle, criticisable. this is a classic early concession which s Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
Negative emotions are a big concern for resolving discussions and for ongoing learning. They typically result in things like someone dropping a discussion overnight and never wanting to continue, and someone disliking a forum and not wanting to learn Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
I think: Exposure doesn't make one learn. It's only critical engagement that works. Practice is only productive if one thinks, mere repetition doesn't work. I find your statement ambiguous about this so I'm stating my view. I don't believe Popper c curi Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/20
> How did you survive parenting and become different? i don't know. i have very little memory of age 0-4. 5 years is a long time, especially when you're a kid. a lot happened in those 5 years. i think people use being broken as an excuse a lot, curi Ideas Matter 2016/12/20
CR doesn't do discussion rules where you can only talk about certain things at certain times or in certain venues. It's more fluid than that. It's easy to be mistaken about what's relevant to a topic. And, more importantly, as the Bartley summary m A Popperian Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
thinking replies are irrelevant is a major warning sign that you don't understand them, or the other guy doesn't understand you, or something else like that is going wrong which needs to be addressed. but your reaction was really different than rec A Popperian Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
I think the point he is trying to make is similar to Popper's point about frequent exposure to the same problem. Say a physical problem, such as the guitar, our hands become more reliable (not in an epistemological sense) and more accurate the more we Anonymous Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/20
> Occasionally a little piece of a person survives and that's what's currently considered a great man. How did you survive parenting and become different? Anonymous Ideas Matter 2016/12/20
I accept your criticism of my interpretation, actually. That his suggestion that it is silly to question, or pointless, does not really indicate that he thinks they are not, in principle, criticisable. Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
> i don't know which 2 posts you're referring 7925 and 7926 Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
you read him as meaning, overall, impossible to criticize. the parenthetical was meant to apply to fewer preceding words than you read it. i'm pointing out how his wording doesn't fit that. curi Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
> Bartley doesn't say "pointless" to mean impossible to criticize it (as you read him. Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
> I never said he used pointless to mean impossible to criticise. this is a strange comment. i never said you said that. curi Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
pointless is not a typical or reasonable way to express impossibility. this is contradicting your interpretation. nothing in the quote says it's impossible. only things like silly and pointless. and he says it's a nonlogical issue, but if it was impo curi Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
I never said he used pointless to mean impossible to criticise. he used pointless to suggest that when you cannot do something, in principle, then you should not attempt to do it. Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
It is not a comment on how many exchanges we have had or the difficulty of the subject matter contained . It refers specifically to the two lengthier posts you did in a row, I don't think a lot of the content was relevant to the statement that I made Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
> only to require an exchange of a few sentences. that sounds pretty quick and easy. Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
@#7942 Bartley wrote: > pointless to hold some particular view as being open to criticism Bartley doesn't say "pointless" to mean impossible to criticize it (as you read him). The use of "pointless" contradicts your reading. It means he doesn Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
I don't think it should be easy. Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
being "exasperated" matters. that's a problem. problems need solving. now that you say something about it, i see, as commonly comes up, an underlying issue. the underlying issue is you think it should be really easy and short to agree about this! i curi Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
Yes, I guess that statement gave a flavour of that. In fact, I was merely exasperated that you wrote so much, when the problem seems only to require an exchange of a few sentences. Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
I am saying that I agree with your analysis about the situation. About why it seemed that The statement Bartley chose was beyond criticism. But he himself, from this mistake, concluded that certain things can't be questioned as a matter of fact, rathe Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
> I am not saying we have identical view on CR. you could clarify what you *are* saying. curi Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
> Dont give me a lecture on CR. this was super hostile. Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
> You seem to have not engaged with my statement in post 7927, instead you just changed the subject. that post contains a clarification of something you meant that i'd asked about. i don't see where it argues with me though, and i didn't have a fu curi Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
I am not upset, or feeling hostile. my statements were true. Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
I am not saying we have identical view on CR. You seem to have not engaged with my statement in post 7927, instead you just changed the subject. Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
> You can say what you want. But the context is about Bartley. Whether or not you agree. you seem quite hostile, easily triggered, and ready to get upset over perceived slights, combined with hostile to talking about the problem and trying to resol curi Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
please don't post unmarked quotes. mark quotes with a ">" before them so they are differentiated from your own text. > Is this Bartley's claim or you own? that's my analysis. and i argued Bartley did *not* understand this. curi Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
You can say what you want. But the context is about Bartley. Whether or not you agree. Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
you seem to believe that we have identical conceptions of CR so talking about it is pointless. i consider this not only false but very irrational and destructive to learning. it prevents learning about variations on CR. people routinely approach the s curi Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
his situation has nothing to do with inability to criticize an idea, or even simply choosing not to criticize. it's a situation where the idea has been exposed to extensive critical scrutiny already. and the criticisms considered have been so thorough Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
i don't know what you know and don't know. and i write things of interest to me. and other people read this. i also never agreed that "We are arguing about what Bartkey was advocating.". i'm writing about topics of my choosing whether they fit your curi Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
you're saying you agree with stuff i wrote so you're mad at me? feeling lectured and being upset with me is a big deal. slow down. why are you getting upset? you feel like i'm treating you like a child or student? did i say something to do that? ex curi Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
Dont give me a lecture on CR. We are arguing about what Bartkey was advocating. Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
Bah, There should be a "put" before beyond. Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
DDs criticism showed that Bartley had to criticise the statement in order to select. Bartley did not notice that he was doing this. And since he maintained that there are some statements that are beyond criticism, because they are not criticisable. Wh Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
if someone criticized "I am over two years old" i would be prepared, offhand, without having to stop and think, to refute his arguments. it's not that it can't be criticized, it's that i already understand many criticisms of it and why they're false. curi Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
> It would, for instance, be a bit silly for me to maintain that I held some statements that I might make—e.g., "I am over two years old"—open to criticism and revision. it's easy to come up with ways to criticize this and anything else (thoug curi Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
The and in the second sentence after the comma, should be because Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
No he is not advocating anything like that as far as I can tell. He is not saying that some ideas should be put behind question. He saying that there are some statements that are beyond criticism, and there is no possible method of attack for them. In Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
i mean he's saying to do it in general, not doing it himself regarding a particular statement. he's talking about methods and advocating bad ones. curi Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
I don't think it is on principle. Maybe he thinks such statements that are beyond criticism do exist. I would be inclined to think that they don't myself. Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
i don't know if Bartley refused to think about some ideas, i'm criticizing that he advocated doing so on principle. curi Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
i agree with you. This passage is unfortunate. And Battley should have thought about what he was saying more. I still feel t I think Bartley might have struggled a little with the challenge. Just like he struggled with posts challenge. But I do not Anonymous Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
typo. > I read the substantive as justificationist. should be > I read the substance as justificationist. curi Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/20
What do you think Bartley's non-justificationist point is about the winetesting? I wasn't trying to pick on terminology, I read the substantive as justificationist. curi Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/20
That sentence his horrible, sorry. I hope it converts my meaning despite it. They would have agreed with a lot of the new proposals and refinements that have been made. It is a developing research program and CR still has not met air unearthed all jus Anonymous Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/20
Bartley's terminology is justificationist, but his point is not. It is easy to mean different things. Even popper often used justificationist terminology even when making arguments that undermined the justificationist position. I put this down to the Anonymous Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/20
> I think Matt is right in thinking we do this for purely pragmatic reasons, since we cannot question all our beliefs all at once. holding something beyond question means you will NEVER question it. it isn't about questioning too many things at th curi Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
i read The Retreat To Commitment and the Bartley paper related to his (supposed) insight about justificationism he helped Popper with. i didn't like either. i don't remember them well now or have them on hand. here's an example criticism: http://cu curi Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/20
http://curi.us/1437-comments-on-philosophy-of-biology-versus-philosophy-of-physics-by-william-w-bartley-iii Bartley writes: > > A good example is winetasting: the connoisseur knows what to look for and how to describe both what he searches for a curi Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/20
> The only problem I found with Bartley is his denial that we can accept test reports where there is no justification for them. that sounds justificationist... > The idea that there should be an ecology of rationality meaning? > the idea t curi Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/20
i've put substantial effort into interesting people in working on some of the many important open problems i'm aware of. with little success at getting people interested. partly because basically no one has the background knowledge to contribute witho curi Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/20
> * it is immoral to be pretentious, or try to impress the reader or listener with your knowledge. For you are ignorant. Although we may differ in the little things we know, we are all equal in our infinite ignorance. i agree with the first sentenc curi Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/20
open problems curi Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/20
the professional readings on audible -- which are no doubt better than what i would produce -- are around 20 hours a book. so 80 hours not 60 to read them outloud. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/20
did you seriously suggest reading ~60 hours of books outloud on video, plus the commentary time, and hiding the commentary intermixed in the 60 hours so no one ever finds it? anyone who wants to read the books would prefer to read the actual books ins curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/20
Bartley's Summary Anonymous Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/20
> Shouldn't a person figure out what are good interests to have first? in other words, you see a problem with the first sentence. so please see the second sentence for the solution. > In some cases, like women in Saudi Arabia, then it's society Anonymous Follow Your Interests 2016/12/20
i said i'm trying to find awesome people. i am trying. what more do you want!? curi Ideas Matter 2016/12/20
Correction Andrew Crawshaw Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
Criticism Andrew Crawshaw Beyond Criticism? 2016/12/20
Bartley Andrew Crawshaw Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/20
Popper's Problems, and Bartley. Anonymous Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/20
> so what to do? just forget it and criticize short self-contained stuff instead? or just know stuff myself and fuck everyone else since they aren't trying in a serious, productive way where they do much? and anyway other ppl aren't my responsibility. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/20
Shouldn't a person figure out what are good interests to have first? A person could have bad interests (I don't know if giving graphic examples would be helpful here) and not find a problem with them until they were arrested. And after being arrest Anonymous Follow Your Interests 2016/12/20
Well done for continuing! :) None of your followers replied to this post with "I'll continue too!" :( Anonymous Ideas Matter 2016/12/20
#7894 what's your point? Anonymous Lying CNN 2016/12/20
Update on what CNN is calling it Anonymous Lying CNN 2016/12/20
> Do you think that all that you write should be stored. For instance, I enter into a lot of discussions on Facebook. Do you think that you should compose answers away from Facebook and then submit them. if you're writing good, worthwhile stuff, ye curi Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/19
Paths forward Andrew Crawshaw Alan's Paths Forward Summary 2016/12/19
you can only hold 99 toad rally tickets max. Anonymous Super Mario Run 2016/12/19
where's the force? Keating's thought is about taking his *own* drawings and leaving. he feels as if he has no value when around Roark. unlike others, Roark doesn't help him fake self-respect. this is scary and uncomfortable for him. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/19
> you're incoherent. you didn't quote enough context for the scene and you are bringing up force without explaining what you're talking about. I thought the people would recognize the quote & I thought I would mess up quotes from the pdf book. I wi FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/19
you're incoherent. you didn't quote enough context for the scene and you are bringing up force without explaining what you're talking about. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/19
> He thought that he should seize his drawings and run. Why did he think that? My guess is that Keating felt uncomfortable and wanted to grab Roark's attention by force. FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/19
i think i should focus on rallies now to get the mega block unlocked for more income. then after that unlock luigi to try him out. then do the purple coins and save up tickets while getting more skilled. i have around 60 tickets, i should be able t curi Super Mario Run 2016/12/18
character rankings curi Super Mario Run 2016/12/18
i got all 5 pink coins in the pink pipe bonus course. nothing happened. no 2 tickets. no purple or black coin level. it doesn't do anything. i used Peach btw. i think she was quite good for it. Mario sucks at levels where you fall in pits b/c hi curi Super Mario Run 2016/12/18
got all the pink coins. the bonus level is the cavern where u follow the trail of coins from the toad rally. it's long and hard. you can't set your character when you start. you have to go to a different level to pick your character, then go Anonymous Super Mario Run 2016/12/18
i got all the pink coins except from 3-2 and 4-1 now. the shop indicates getting all coins of a color lets you buy a pipe with a bonus level. Anonymous Super Mario Run 2016/12/18
the ? blocks recharge in like 4 hours maybe, not 8 like the bonus games. and i just got 20 tickets from the long ? block and 5 tickets from the small ? block, as opposed to the usual 5 tickets and 100 coins. Anonymous Super Mario Run 2016/12/18
jesus christ what awful design. if you quit out before a loss, not only do you save your ticket, you only ever lose 5 toads. you would lose a lot more toads if you didn't quit. Anonymous Super Mario Run 2016/12/18
Peach can go backwards by jumping, floating and swiping left. Her ability to slowly float down from jumps gives her enough time in the air to actually back up! This is helpful if you miss a pink coin. Other characters have to use up a bubble to back u curi Super Mario Run 2016/12/17
i tested it. i started a rally and then quit after 1 second. **i kept my ticket**. it was an all red map and i lost 5 toads. curi Super Mario Run 2016/12/17
i was told if you quit a toad rally before it finishes, you keep your ticket, just lose some toads. i haven't tested this. would be good when you think you're gonna lose (you reasonably often can tell if you're gonna win or lose). Anonymous Super Mario Run 2016/12/17
> Great reminder about the importance of embracing open ended learning. Thanks! so what are you doing for your open ended learning? > School is one of the things that teaches us to believe we love Spanish, say, but hate geography. And often we o Anonymous Indirection 2016/12/16
Great reminder about the importance of embracing open ended learning. Thanks! School is one of the things that teaches us to believe we love Spanish, say, but hate geography. And often we only hated geography because we hated the teacher or the gro anon Indirection 2016/12/16
You just identified with Hobnob. How can that help with your posting rights? Anonymous Indirection 2016/12/16
> why do you think people would confuse you with L Ron Hobnob? what is it in your identity that could raise confusion? Hobnob is causing trouble. Elliot considers me as troublemaker I want to make sure I don't lose my posting rights on curi and FF Indirection 2016/12/16
#7871 that doesn't answer the question why do you think people would confuse you with L Ron Hobnob? what is it in your identity that could raise confusion? Anonymous Indirection 2016/12/16
#7870 It has become a habit. I feel the need to make things clear. FF Indirection 2016/12/16
#7851 FF, why the need to say it wasn't you? Anonymous Indirection 2016/12/15
#7866 i replied on FI list. curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/14
it doesn't say polyphasic sleep. you're making shit up. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/13
> i took a long nap to accomplish that.naps are the best rest.but in general it's easy to run out of mental energy to speed read more without getting sleepy.i can't just sleep arbitrary amounts at arbitrary times. Interesting. So you don't sleep FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/13
Problem size PAS Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/13
if you want to contribute you have to learn a lot more. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/12
yes we know that and much more about it. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/12
On a semi-related topic... One of the problems I see with FI is that direct/accurate (sometimes negative) criticism is (incorrectly) interpreted as mean/cruel/hurtful, or causes feelings of shame. I'd guess this is a large part of why people drop o Anon69 Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/12
The question is for Elliot, yes. Anon69 Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/12
me? i thought you were talking about Elliot before. and i just commented on abstract issues. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/12
So when you say that you use harsh language, that means that you say things which are: > direct, accurate, *negative* statements, without hedging and equivocation ...but your intention is not to be mean / cruel / hurtful / cause shame. Is tha Anon69 Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/12
direct, accurate, *negative* statements, without hedging and equivocation, are considered very harsh. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/12
I'm pausing to consider you mean by harsh language...it may be different than what I thought. Maybe an example would help? The dictionary says: 1) unpleasantly rough or jarring to the senses, 2) cruel or severe. Do those sound right? I could see Anon69 Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/12
when you use mild language, you *falsely* communicate that the problems involved are mild. (ofc mild language is great for discussing problems that are actually mild.) people usually think the problems are about 10% of the size i mean, even when i Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/12
On FI, elliot wrote: > One reason I use harsh language sometimes is clarity. There are lots of times when using mild negative phrasing will be misunderstood (because you want to express a BIG problem, but they'll interpret it as a small problem). Anon69 Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/12
"Hello, Mr. Roark," said Ellsworth Toohey quietly. Roark looked at him without curiosity. "Hello," said Roark. "Please don't run away." The voice was not mocking, but earnest. "I wasn't going to." "I think I knew that you'd come here some Anonymous Indirection 2016/12/12
Why spend time thinking of him at all? Anonymous Indirection 2016/12/12
I am curious how L Ron Hateful found his way here Anonymous Indirection 2016/12/12
Ayn Rand's Criticisms of Anarchism - Rebutted! By Moleneux https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My2sLnHpyG4 Stefan Molyneux opens the listener mailbag to answer questions on the ethics of gambling, road safety in a free society, Ayn Rand's criticisms o FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/12
#7847 #7845 #7850 Not me FF Indirection 2016/12/12
Don't laugh me off. You are BAMBOOZLED! L Ron Hobnob Indirection 2016/12/12
see, Alan, I told you so. Anonymous Indirection 2016/12/12
Oh ya and...can't forget (((Alex Epstein)))... The mindless golem warrior who is going to take back oil away from the Muslims and back to the Hebes! ROT IN HELL L Ron Hobnob Indirection 2016/12/12
Ironic you voted for Trump when he's going to eliminate Jews and Jew lovers like you. So much for ur kike cunt (((Alisa Rosenbaum))) and her philosophy which should be called Relativism because it's nothing but (((Einstein's))) Jew physics translated L Ron Hobnob Indirection 2016/12/11
why bother asking him? his post communicates he has no value to offer, and nothing else. Anonymous Indirection 2016/12/11
not very informative oh my god it's turpentine Indirection 2016/12/11
Lol L Ron Hobnob Indirection 2016/12/11
Visit to a Small College David Horowitz Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/11
Metro closes ranks against outside ‘attacks’ Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/11
Michael Flynn and what he means for Trump’s foreign policy Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/11
Michael Flynn and what he means for Trump’s foreign policy Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/11
Why Donald Trump is TIME's Person of the Year Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/11
Metro transit police: Not quite the region’s finest Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/11
FACT CHECK: "Trump is down to his last wish from Aladdin." Aladdin is not a genie. http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2016-12-07.html Anonymous Open Thread: Election 2016 2016/12/07
HBL is not designed and set up in a way i agree with. but given it is a certain thing, i really did prefer to accommodate that. i wanted to make my posts fit the venue. i took a variety of steps to do this including making an effort to follow HBL's pu curi Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/07
> I think your response here means that we do disagree. But it's still not clear. Mostly because I think in actual practice it's hard to find a more "reasonable person" than HB outside of FI, and if you weren't "actually trying to talk to stuff about" curi Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/07
> > Assume you did ask about that, and HB says something like "Oh, don't worry about that any more. Just reply as much as you want." > > Do you press? > > if it was a reasonable person, who i was actually trying to talk to stuff about, i'd press th PAS Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/07
> You notice the increased frequency and...? I'm guessing you'd ask HB about the agreement to reply to each other less often. no, i'd ignore it. (btw he actually did this, and i did ignore it.) i'd only talk about it more with someone i thought was Anonymous Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/06
> for example, Harry Binswanger had a problem. he attracted an audience to his forum that doesn't like to manage their own reading, and instead wants their preferred portions fed to them with no extra for them to have to choose not to read. he didn't PAS Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/06
problem solving for mutual benefit is often done with strangers. for example, Harry Binswanger had a problem. he attracted an audience to his forum that doesn't like to manage their own reading, and instead wants their preferred portions fed to the curi Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/06
> but there are situations like your child wants to go to the park for 4 hours, and you say no. Are there example situations with strangers it would make sense to discuss this about? Or does this sort of situation *only* occur with someone you have PAS Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/06
crits of a stefan moyleux video on parenting oh my god it's turpentine Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/06
as far as you know, the purchase for .7x is a CP -- everyone involved prefers it. if there's a problem he wanted your help with, it was his responsibility to express it to you. you'd then have options like to help, to tell him to deal with it on hi curi Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/06
Transaction vs. CP PAS Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/06
Even with big salaries, Metro can’t fill its jobs http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/27/even-with-big-salaries-metro-cant-fill-its-jobs/ >“The average Metro worker had a $60,000 salary, which went up to $69,000 including overtime Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/06
> If it comes down to this then your disagreement with Stefan isn't over parenting, per se, but over the value of TV in what quantities and what contexts. Does this seem accurate to you? no, it's both. if child wants TV and you can afford it, th Anonymous Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/06
a common preference is something everyone involved prefers. prefers means FULLY prefers -- no downsides, no compromises, etc. they think it's BEST, they have NO CRITICISMS of it. going to the park for 2 hours b/c your mom wouldn't take you for 4 ho Anonymous Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/06
Value of TV, etc. Abe Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/06
Park Time Abe Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/06
if you think you have an argument against TV/internet/screens, share it. if you don't have any argument against their immense value, then i'd be a bit confused. like if you recognize they are great and cheap, why NOT provide them? Anonymous Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/06
it's hard to draw an exact line about what children are owed by right, but some things like food and TV are easy in the US today. it's a really basic societal resource with huge value, people can afford it, and someone without it is really deprived an Anonymous Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/06
Basic Resources Abe Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/06
you'd need force to prevent me from watching TV on any TV (e.g. mine). children have a right to basic resources like a TV they have access to (their own TV is good, but if there is a shared TV they are able to use that's OK too). denying them basi Anonymous Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/06
Force Abe Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/06
what's the problem with getting the child lots of park time in general? usually parent is not actually focusing on helping child in general. this screws things up. if parent actually was trying to get child plenty of park time in general (and ot Anonymous Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/06
Common Preference Abe Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/06
contracts are fine. telling your child he can only go to the park if he signs a contract is not fine. he's owed basic resources like food, shelter, park time, TV access, internet access, etc without making any concessions. Anonymous Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/06
Promises versus Contracts Abe Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/06
> Isn't it ahead-of-time common preference finding? You want to go to the park, I don't want to spend all day there, but we're both okay with spending some time there? no, it's not a common preference, and there's no attempt to make it one. it's of Anonymous Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/06
> Why do you consider not letting the child watch TV force? more or less the same way it'd require force for you to prevent me from watching TV. Anonymous Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/06
Common Preference Finding Abe Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/06
Force versus non-enabling. Abe Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/06
Metro derailed by culture of complacence, incompetence, lack of diversity Mysterious Person Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/05
Giving Thomas His Due http://www.weeklystandard.com/giving-thomas-his-due/article/988078 >Johnson is not the only example this term of Thomas calling out the Court’s own institutional biases. The Court split 5-4 in Arizona State Legislature v. A Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/05
what if a child wants to stay at a park? curi Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/05
molyneux vs. privacy and mouth-consent curi Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/05
deFOOing curi Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/05
3 part series on incompetence & more at the Washington, DC Metro Transit Authority Alisa Small Government 2016/12/05
#7801 is not me. FF Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/05
Your thoughts on Stefan Molyneux's views on parenting? Abe Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/12/05
remap caps-lock to both control AND escape! Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/04
the problem is designed to encourage people to fight with each other. you are blogging about it, spreading it around, and encouraging people to discuss it – that is, to hurt each other. you're a monster. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/01
you didn't say you disagreed with me, with or without an argument. instead you spoke as if i'd said something different than i actually said. responding to X by acting like someone said Y is a common and very nasty tactic. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/01
you either completely missed the point and aren't trying to understand it, or you're being an asshole on purpose. i pointed out how you are taking actions to hurt people and should stop. your response is you're willing to only hurt people elsewhere Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/01
Newcomb's problem Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/01
your overall method here is to find out you're wrong and then add one ad hoc exception and continue with the same view you had before, even though it's wrong in a ton of other ways, which you'll only acknowledge when told each one by one by one. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/01
it doesn't clarify it at all. it's an opinion about it. then you're attacking everyone who disagrees with you in extraordinarily harsh terms. you should never speak of Newcomb's problem again. it exploits your weaknesses to make you into an evil ba Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/01
Newcomb's problem Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/01
that's not a clarification. that's like "clarifying" the set of integers from 3-5000 by saying 4 or 8. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/01
Newcomb's problem Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/01
Newcomb's problem Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/01
> For the purposes of this discussion, can we stipulate that the predictor is correct with some probability? no! god you're so blind to other perspectives that you request to stipulate that disagreements with you be banned "for the purposes of t Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/01
Newcomb's problem Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/01
> I don't think which specific high probability number you choose changes the correct decision. For the purposes of discussion, I am prepared to stipulate that the predictor is accurate to anything greater than, say, 90%, including 100%). you're to Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/01
Newcomb's problem Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/01
Newcomb's problem Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/01
> By the rules of the problem, if you decide to take both boxes, then the super-intelligent being predicts this and leaves the $1,000,000 box empty (with high probability). this is ambiguous at best. i think it's written wrong. the structure is: Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/01
Newcomb's problem Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/01
> Why does it seem like I think it's obvious? I would say on the contrary that my solution is novel and non-obvious. I haven't seen my idea anywhere else. not that. you say catching-out things like "By the rules of the problem, if you decide to tak Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/01
Newcomb's problem Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/01
Newcomb's problem Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/01
after linking a shitty article with a vague problem, you are assuming your understanding of the exact rules of the problem are not just true but go without saying. you're skipping steps to connect your conclusions to the stated rules. you think it's s Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/01
Newcomb's problem Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/01
> If your policy for playing Newcomb's game is to take both boxes, then, according to the rules, you'll only get $1,000 each time you play. you are making assumptions about having a policy, rather than just being confronted with the issue THEN maki Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/01
Newcomb's problem Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/01
@Newcomb's problem: you take both boxes since the prediction about what you would do was made before you even knew about the boxes. at the point you're presented with a choice, taking only one box can't help you. the problem is stupid. josh's pr Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/01
Newcomb's problem Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/12/01
> Could be, but I haven't found a style that works for me. I've tried paper books, ibooks type digital reading, RSVP, and voice dream. i don't suggest combining learning RSVP or audio listening with reading a book you aren't very interested in. tha curi Open Thread: Objectivism Discussion 2016/12/01
Reading books PAS Open Thread: Objectivism Discussion 2016/12/01
@PAS Anonymous Open Thread: Objectivism Discussion 2016/12/01
> Another thing to point out: The recent Ohio State attack represents the *best* *possible* anti-gun end state. The attacker used only a car and a knife, and was stopped by a cop (with a gun, of course). Is this their view of "success"? What if the co Anonymous Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/12/01
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Gun bans PAS Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/30
"Diversity" Alisa Angry, Violent Racists 2016/11/30
Antisemitism & the Left Alisa Jews 2016/11/30
Keyset pagination vs offset pagination in SQL Josh Jordan stuff about computer games and programming 2016/11/30
On the iPhone 7's lack of an audio jack Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/30
i'd rather break ties on the purchase amounts by datetime, not ID. but yes i get the concept of using ID as basically a random but unchanging (never rerolled) tiebreaker. the original example involving chronology confuses this. Anonymous stuff about computer games and programming 2016/11/29
> i think the case you're talking about (IDs out of order, but never out of order across day boundaries) is rare and shouldn't be assumed when trying to present an approach for general use. I agree. Maybe date wasn't a good example to show why ID Anonymous stuff about computer games and programming 2016/11/29
i think the case you're talking about (IDs out of order, but never out of order across day boundaries) is rare and shouldn't be assumed when trying to present an approach for general use. to take this blog as a typical example, IDs are occasionally Anonymous stuff about computer games and programming 2016/11/29
Keyset pagination vs offset pagination in SQL Josh Jordan stuff about computer games and programming 2016/11/29
why should we watch videos by someone who silently left FI and won't say why? and whose children are in desperate trouble who doesn't care and help? he shouldn't be making those videos right now. you did nothing to sell us on the value of those vid Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/29
ok i get why not to do date only if it's just a date not a datetime. but if they are in the correct order by ID, why not just WHERE on ID without date? Anonymous stuff about computer games and programming 2016/11/29
Rami has started making short videos. Check them out.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJdc5LX5FWU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgt8RLBE0jI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoF8LNOlHw8 FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/29
Keyset pagination vs offset pagination in SQL Josh Jordan stuff about computer games and programming 2016/11/29
Removing watermarks from PDF documents under OS X Alisa stuff about computer games and programming 2016/11/29
why would you WHERE on *both* date and id? Anonymous stuff about computer games and programming 2016/11/28
Keyset pagination vs offset pagination in SQL Josh Jordan stuff about computer games and programming 2016/11/28
> > even with extensive study, most people still fuck it up. most intellectuals are badly wrong. most academics are badly wrong. what are you doing differently? > Differently to what? it said to what and you deleted that part from your quote. Anonymous Immigration 2016/11/28
>> Popper doesn't appear on Audible. Audio books for Popper generally seem rare. >Voice Dream Reader. I'll try it out. My focus is on world-building rather than a specific story at the moment (yes I said "writing" earlier, that was misle Anonymous Immigration 2016/11/28
> Likewise, I think the solution to bad guys who might use criticism to coerce you involves more criticism, not less. The effective way to respond to someone trying to coerce you with criticism is to be good enough at criticizing their criticism. Anonymous Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/28
Richard Feynman didn't think about who he was talking to: > I also met Niels Bohr. His name was Nicholas Baker in those days, and he came to Los Alamos with Jim Baker, his son, whose name is really Aage Bohr. They came from Denmark, and they were v Anonymous Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/28
> Popper doesn't appear on Audible. Audio books for Popper generally seem rare. Voice Dream Reader. > I've read quite a lot of Rand and I discuss here and some FB groups. do you think you've figured it out enough to plan what to do with your Anonymous Immigration 2016/11/28
>> Like if someone crits me, the fear is they'll then "come for me" because of that flaw. >do you do self-criticism? Yes. I spend some time every day reflecting on the day, what I've done, what I'm going to do, what I've learned. Sometimes this Anonymous Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/28
> I keep meeting people who thinking banning guns will help. you keep *choosing* to meet that kind of person instead of spending more time in other contexts. Anonymous Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/28
> even if they couldn't get a weapon illegally oops, I mean if they couldn't get it legally Anonymous Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/28
> But the answer is NOT to ignore guns, or wish guns didn't exist, or cower in fear in your house because somewhere out there in the world is a bad guy with a gun. I keep meeting people who thinking banning guns will help. I point out that, if gun Anonymous Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/28
It is a big project and will take a lot of time and work. I don't know how long it will take me to get far with the time I can put into it. Multiple years, at least. I don't particularly want to get paid for bad ideas. Learning bad ideas for money Anonymous Immigration 2016/11/28
Ah, I think I get it better. It's not about how to make choices, but whether an idea is true or not. So you could choose to make a decision with some weighting calculation. I doubt it would be a great method, but it could be done. This wouldn't Anonymous Rejecting Gradations of Certainty 2016/11/28
you can weigh lots of things, e.g. people, literally. and you can make decisions that take into account a weight in some way, e.g. dating skinny girls over fat girls. the decisions themselves, e.g. to date a particular girl or not, are yes/no affai curi Rejecting Gradations of Certainty 2016/11/27
sounds like a big project requiring lots of good ideas to do well -- which means doing things like discussing Mises, Popper and Rand. depends on your goals though. some authors get a substantial following and income writing stuff like this using bad i Anonymous Immigration 2016/11/27
> My premise of being scared of people is like the malevolent universe premise. yes you vaguely feel people are bad and dangerous, and that living a good life (with e.g. learning via online discussions) is risky and won't work. > I'm focusing on Anonymous Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/27
>>> The sum of it is that I expect criticism to be followed by coercion if I don't conform to the criticism. This makes responding to criticism (especially if it comes across as uncompromising) intimidating. >> what sort of coercion? too vague. Anonymous Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/27
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#7735 I have also been thinking about this some. The fear of criticism being used to coerce you seems to me in some respects like the fear some people have of guns. Yes, there are bad people in the world. And bad people with guns are even more dan PAS Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/27
Have been thinking this over more. My premise of being scared of people is like the malevolent universe premise. It's being scared that *something* may go wrong, without knowing what. But that's always true of everything all the time. Problems a Anonymous Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/27
I like the Ghost in the Shell manga. There are some notable flaws. I think it has some mixed up ideas between altruism and individualism. It doesn't wholesale advocate altruism, is very often individualistic, but has some moments where it values sa Anonymous What To Read 2016/11/27
> What about all the non-violent things the government does? You mean all those things it does that it *enforces* with violence if anyone resists? Anonymous Mistaken Government Violence 2016/11/27
I think I agree with the post. There is something I'm unsure about though. Suppose I want something (for the sake of argument, a meal). I have options. I could get something cheap which isn't unpleasant, it will satisfy hunger and I wont disl Anonymous Rejecting Gradations of Certainty 2016/11/27
I'm working on writing a fictional world. In some ways I am inspired by Ayn Rand in The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged. The world I am creating is a demonstration of the consequences of ideas. An idea I am considering for this world is a split Anonymous Immigration 2016/11/27
> it creates issues with google on top of it! it accuses me of being a robot for unusual traffic in my network. it's creating more problems than it solves so far. If you switch to it after normal use for a long time, it's going to question why you Anonymous Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/27
> i didn't write #7717. of course i didn't look at an IP. i assume it's just someone from the UK making a comment about their country. Yeah I just thought it was worth mentioning since PIA came up. I don't know how many UK people post here. Anonymous Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/27
it creates issues with google on top of it! it accuses me of being a robot for unusual traffic in my network. it's creating more problems than it solves so far. Anonymous Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/27
actually, it's shit as well. pages take ages to load if they load at all. Anonymous Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/27
betternet works better and it's free Anonymous Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/27
PIA is nothing like that for me. probably a problem on your end. Anonymous Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/27
> 1) she may have brain damage meaning what? meaning that a human mind cannot exist? Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/27
i rarely get an internet connection with it on Anonymous Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/27
> PIA is shit, though. that's not an argument and doesn't address the experience of it working well had by me and various others here. Anonymous Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/27
PIA is shit, though. Anonymous Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/27
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i didn't write #7717. of course i didn't look at an IP. i assume it's just someone from the UK making a comment about their country. curi Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/26
> And as well as that, for people in the UK there are more and more reasons to get a VPN: Did you look at that person's IP? How did you come to know that he/she is from UK? FF Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/26
> IPs are logged. i don't normally look at them. if you're concerned about this, you should be concerned about many other websites too. the solution is PIA. And as well as that, for people in the UK there are more and more reasons to get a VPN: Anonymous Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/26
>> The sum of it is that I expect criticism to be followed by coercion if I don't conform to the criticism. This makes responding to criticism (especially if it comes across as uncompromising) intimidating. >what sort of coercion? too vague. Vi Anonymous Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/26
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> By the way, curi, do you log IPs here? I worry sometimes about that when posting anon. You can also try browser plugin VPNs if you are new to VPN. They are free. Eg: Betternet FF Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/25
> The sum of it is that I expect criticism to be followed by coercion if I don't conform to the criticism. This makes responding to criticism (especially if it comes across as uncompromising) intimidating. what sort of coercion? too vague. > The curi Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/25
IPs are logged. i don't normally look at them. if you're concerned about this, you should be concerned about many other websites too. the solution is PIA. curi Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/25
> By the way, curi, do you log IPs here? I worry sometimes about that when posting anon. I recommend using a VPN if you're worried about IP logging. PIA seems good: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/ Anonymous Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/25
> e.g. they dislike criticism and lie about it and keep feeling bad about it privately. and it drives them to give up. they don't ask for less criticism, or for help with the problem (which they are ashamed of because they think it's irrational). I Different Anon Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/11/25
> that's not free Get a pirated version. FF Block Havoc Video 2016/11/23
> what do you use to compress the videos before uploading to youtube? i told you the tools used. Anonymous Block Havoc Video 2016/11/23
> Do you have Adobe Premiere on your pc? Get that that's not free Anonymous Block Havoc Video 2016/11/23
> what do you use to compress the videos before uploading to youtube? Do you have Adobe Premiere on your pc? Get that FF Block Havoc Video 2016/11/23
what do you use to compress the videos before uploading to youtube? Anonymous Block Havoc Video 2016/11/23
i used: imac, iphones 6s, lightning to USB cable, quicktime player (has a built in recording feature). Anonymous Block Havoc Video 2016/11/23
what hardware/ software you use to make your gameplay videos with commentary? Anonymous Block Havoc Video 2016/11/23
Congrats, XElite. I find Elliot's videos more interesting as he shows failure and progress through persistence, not just when he finally succeeds. Anonymous Duet (iOS) Finesse 2016/11/23
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> update: banned from reading HBL > i updated to post to add that, after writing this post, i've been banned from reading HBL too. Is that a loss for you? Would you still find value in continuing to read? HB might have considered your post host Anonymous Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/11/22
update: banned from reading HBL curi Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/11/21
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I like Snow Crash by Neil Stephenson Has some interesting ideas about memes. There are a few holes in them, but I can work out viable explanations that fill them. Main characters are skill-orientated, take their work seriously, try to be great. Anonymous What To Read 2016/11/21
I agree, but that depends on judging *which* contexts it's a bad idea in, *which* contexts are problematic. I would definitely say legal ideas should be made explicit. The potential harm if the lawmaker doesn't make them explicit is huge. As covere Anonymous Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/11/21
> How does the lack of explicit form of the idea make it bad? it makes it much harder to expose to criticism from other people. also yourself. also much harder to coordinate with other people about it. in many (not all) contexts it's a bad idea to Anonymous Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/11/20
> if you're an adult who is fluent in language and you don't know how to state your idea, that's a criticism of acting on the idea or believing you're right. I don't see how. How does the lack of explicit form of the idea make it bad? Flaws with Anonymous Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/11/20
> Why do you link to the course rather than the book? Does the course have significant added content? Because I was giving a source for something which is from the course, not the book. AR didn't speak in a Q&A period in the book. Anonymous Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/11/20
> > Why dual major in both like John Galt? > huh? John Galt dual majored in physics and philosophy. So did Francisco d'Anconia and Ragnar Danneskjöld. curi Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/11/20
> Why dual major in both like John Galt? huh? Anonymous Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/11/20
it can take a lot of time to learn new stuff, e.g. new scientific discoveries. but you don't need to learn those to act in your life now. it doesn't take so long to deal with criticism people have that you already know enough to answer. if you'r Anonymous Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/11/20
> - clear Rand fallibilism quotes: http://fallibleliving.com/essays/epistemology/135-rand-and-fallibilism (i don't think posting these great quotes at a permalink constitutes pandering!) Fairly good link. But: "how to validate his conclusions" V Anonymous Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/11/20
> not knowing what your idea is is a criticism. Knowing how to explicitly state your idea is not the same as knowing what your idea is. Babies don't know how to state their ideas explicitly. That doesn't mean they don't know what their ideas ar Anonymous Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/11/20
I think Rand is a fallibilist but: - she often uses terminology that normally refers to infallibilism in our culture, such as "certain", "prove" and "self-evident". even the word "knowledge" is infallibilist in our culture (the standard "justified, Anonymous Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/11/20
> Maybe some of the people discussing doesn't know how to state what they think precisely it's never a good idea to act on an idea you have a criticism of. not knowing what your idea is is a criticism. timely means a variety of things including Anonymous Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/11/20
I think some of the language Rand uses is (taken out of context) compatible with infallibility (such as talking about absolutes, like A is A). I don't think she is infalliblist, she often refers to fallibility and error-correction. But if someone d Anonymous Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/11/20
> I've developed an approach I call Paths Forward for how to take discussions to conclusions. One can always take discussions to conclusions and address all criticism in a timely manner! I agree that all discussions can be taken to conclusion and a Anonymous Harry Binswanger Refuses To Think 2016/11/20
i've been banned from HBL. i wrote a blog post explaining. it criticizes HB, HBL, passive minds, and more! http://curi.us/1930-harry-binswanger-refuses-to-think curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/20
updated the post with a second video! Anonymous Block Havoc Video 2016/11/19
i'm writing my HB and HBL criticism blog post. have done several drafts. if anyone wants to read a draft copy, email me quickly and you may be able to give feedback before it's posted. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/19
that toki tori level in the screenshots is hard. i forget if the teleport is required or not, but yeah it's possible. i suggest you skip that level until you do most of the other ones. Anonymous Block Havoc Video 2016/11/19
> Maybe we are understanding conscious differently. When you chose to sit down you are consciously using your muscles but that is a different level than thinking verbally. did you miss the literal verbal thinking out loud in the video? if you ar Anonymous Block Havoc Video 2016/11/19
you need high standards NOW. yes Peter's succession of betrayals made things worse and harder, and ruined his life. Anonymous Open Thread: Objectivism Discussion 2016/11/19
No, because now I'm missing a teleporter. http://image.farm/images/2016/11/19/a685df5ce17d4028b25ce7e906ed273f.jpg My reasoning is flawed. Anonymous Block Havoc Video 2016/11/19
Oh, it is possible. I just did it! Now does it help solve the level... Anonymous Block Havoc Video 2016/11/19
Speaking of Toki Tori, is this level about teleporting at the right timing? I'm convinced it is, because otherwise there aren't enough "wall swaps" to finish the level, but it seems impossible to do. http://image.farm/images/2016/11/19/49dadbbe385b Anonymous Block Havoc Video 2016/11/19
Hb seemed to like you quite a lot when you posted your analyses of We the Living. It seems he changed his mind tons in a few days. Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/19
How do you gain persistence? It seems you already need to have it to play the games. Anonymous Block Havoc Video 2016/11/19
> I don't think I would have the persistence to have a high score. I did play a lot of hard games, because that's all there was in the past. I don't think it help me be more rational and better at life. Toki Tori was hard.. You and Elliot both seem FF Block Havoc Video 2016/11/19
From Elliot's HBL post "Ayn Rand quotes discussion" > Taking life seriously, and really insisting on the best right now, is the only way to live. Pursuing the truth with no boundaries is completely urgent. Do it now, or you never will. I am not Anonymous Open Thread: Objectivism Discussion 2016/11/19
From the Ayn Rand quote you put for discussion on HBL: > If one found it difficult to maintain one’s loyalty to one’s own convictions at the start, a succession of betrayals—which helped to augment the power of the evil one lacked the courage Anonymous Open Thread: Objectivism Discussion 2016/11/19
>> Do you think playing games like these helps becoming better at problem solving in general? It seems a completely different thing than consciously having to think of life problems and discovering or creating the knowledge to solve them. > It takes Anonymous Block Havoc Video 2016/11/19
Looks harder than the duet game.. I loved the duet game.. FF Block Havoc Video 2016/11/19
this video is just a small sample. i already went through a similar learning process for Easy and for Normal. for a lot longer than the video length. after already being very good at Duet. try it yourself. see how hard it is. then note: the persist Anonymous Block Havoc Video 2016/11/19
> Did you start on easy mode (if there is one?) Yes. > Are you playing on an iPad? iPhone 6s. > Do you think playing games like these helps becoming better at problem solving in general? It seems a completely different thing than conscious Anonymous Block Havoc Video 2016/11/19
I find it interesting how persistent you are. I would just not care if I kept dying and dying in the same spot. Anonymous Block Havoc Video 2016/11/19
Did you start on easy mode (if there is one?) Are you playing on an iPad? Do you think playing games like these helps becoming better at problem solving in general? It seems a completely different thing than consciously having to think of life p Anonymous Block Havoc Video 2016/11/19
1) she may have brain damage 2) who knows what she could learn if people treated her differently you should make clearer arguments. i say X. the video shows, specifically, Y. the contradiction is, specifically, Z because... Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/18
Person stuck being a baby for life. She is not the only one, I remember seeing another story of a baby like this who apparently was in her 30's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJL-6bUs1W0 She doesn't learn. How is her existence compatible with Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/18
Stefan Molyneux: "The welfare state is a eugenics program" Josh Jordan President Donald Trump 2016/11/18
Stefan Molyneux on ethno-nationalism Josh Jordan President Donald Trump 2016/11/18
Stefan Molyneux explains how smears work Josh Jordan President Donald Trump 2016/11/18
> Basically the only reason it was on my list at all is because you recommend games so strongly. people spend many years stuck when they could have done the gaming route and not been stuck. so sad! others even just give up, when they could have don Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/18
> SSBM is a hard and *fast* game with a foreign controller. you have to have a way in to care. I think I should cross gaming off my list for consideration for this time period (EOY2016). I don't currently have a "way in" like you mention; never lik PAS Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/18
some people are too shy(?) to ask for tips about SSBM or other games, or to ask to play a game. i don't really understand it. i can be helpful to people who actually play and interact. but the project can fail on the ground floor if someone is just curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/18
> Quotes are hard because I'm reading it from the open library which uses scans of the books. if you include very short quotes, it allows people to search for the passage. you only need to quote around 3 words for people to find the right passage i Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/18
i strongly recommend FoR!! For FI i particularly recommend lots of short back-and-forth -- trying to get a very high iteration count on some important issue. for swift you'll want to try writing in xcode. for ruby i don't use an IDE, just a text curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/18
> try to include some quotes and context for reminders cuz i haven't read the book for a couple years. Quotes are hard because I'm reading it from the open library which uses scans of the books. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/18
I have been pretty busy with work the last few months but expect to have some free time next week and then also the last couple of weeks of December due to holidays. I am considering some competing projects: - Respond to my backlog of flagged FI po PAS Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/18
discussing Early Ayn Rand sounds good. FYI: use http://curi.us/1857-open-thread-objectivism-discussion try to include some quotes and context for reminders cuz i haven't read the book for a couple years. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/18
Does anyone want to discuss the Early Ayn Rand stories with me? It's so sad to have nobody to talk about what interests you. :( Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/18
> How would saying things they don't want to hear, more slowly, have made them happy to hear it? My thought is it would give them more time to adjust to something foreign to them, to think it over, to not feel invaded and overwhelmed. Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/18
Scott Alexander: The Left is Still Crying Wolf Josh Jordan President Donald Trump 2016/11/17
How would saying things they don't want to hear, more slowly, have made them happy to hear it? Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/17
> So far the replies to HB's announcement are just cruel attacks on a muzzled person. What are they saying? My free trial is over. Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/17
> I saw it coming too. This isn't my first ban. Slowing down was not a solution. Why not? Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/17
HB didn't allow me to invite people to my forum to continue discussions he interrupted. I, of course, do allow people to post about other forums on my forums. So far the replies to HB's announcement are just cruel attacks on a muzzled person. Pe curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/17
I saw it coming too. This isn't my first ban. Slowing down was not a solution. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/17
Quoting Leonard Peikoff in the Editor's Preface for "Think Twice" in The Early Ayn Rand (1986). > I first read the play in the 1950's, with Miss Rand present, asking me now and then who I thought the murderer was. I guessed just about every possibi Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/17
> i'm now banned from posting to HBL. i can still read it for now. Sorry, I did see it coming. I don't know if i should have advised you to slow down. Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/17
Jordan Peterson on "anti-racism/anti-bias" workplace training Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/17
Stefan Molyneux on the left's inability to discuss Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/17
most people are bad at debating. looks like HBL has zero people willing to debate some point to a conclusion. they're all a bunch of evaders! instead of resolving conflicts of ideas, they come up with some excuse that makes them feel OK with not resol curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/16
Stefan Molyneux on the left's inability to discuss Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/16
patio11 on sole proprietorship taxes Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/16
@#7634 that's not a permalink and won't find the patio11 comment in the future. you should use permalinks so the original is still reasonably findable in the future. permalinks will also take people straight to the right comment instead of to a lis Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/16
patio11 on sole proprietorship taxes Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/16
HB's own story is basically he couldn't come up with a good excuse to ban me even though he wanted to. so then he did it anyway. i respect his property rights, but i don't respect his unwillingness to deal with criticism, philosophy discussion and curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/16
no warning curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/16
notice how HB is offended by *accusations* of evasion, without bothering to address whether they are true or deal with my *arguments*. HBL people, including HB, do not do paths forward. typical evasion! and HB banned me rather than discuss paths fo curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/16
It's pathetic that HB's best example of me being wrong is a statement of basic science in terminology he found confusing. I put a lot of effort into clarifying various terminology for him, but to little avail. Apple designs cameras in opinionated w curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/16
HB Announces My Ban curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/16
British woman who was arrested on 'extra-marital sex' charges after reporting gang rape to police in Dubai, as her attackers go free Alisa Islamic Insanity 2016/11/16
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Trump responds to allegations of inappropriate conduct with women (Oct, 2016) Josh Jordan President Donald Trump 2016/11/16
To Learn Philosophy, Do Projects You Care About Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/16
That's a great Chomsky quote. I've said similar. Credit where it's due, even if the author sucks in other ways! curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/16
Chomsky on limiting the spectrum of acceptable opinion Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/16
> I know. ok. it didn't sound like you knew because you said "There should be..." the "should" sounds to me like there isn't already. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/16
To Learn Philosophy, Do Projects You Care About Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/16
i'm now banned from posting to HBL. i can still read it for now. details later. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/16
Breitbart’s Pollak, Defending Bannon, Calls Out NPR’s ‘Racist Programming’ Josh Jordan President Donald Trump 2016/11/16
The tarring of Steve Bannon Josh Jordan President Donald Trump 2016/11/16
Why the Left Should Be Terrified of a Trump Presidency Josh Jordan President Donald Trump 2016/11/16
Why the Left Should Be Terrified of a Trump Presidency Josh Jordan President Donald Trump 2016/11/16
Textbooks selection isn’t a great opportunity. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/16
My 2009 comments on The Comprachicos. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/16
someone (not HB) arguing against answering much criticism, on principle! curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/16
He called Clintons " Good People " I don't want to hurt them FF President Donald Trump 2016/11/16
trying meta discussion since none of the discussions went anywhere curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/15
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/11/15/gizmodo-facebook-fake-news fuck the left Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/15
USA Today lies @Trump saying "stop it" Josh Jordan President Donald Trump 2016/11/15
> There should be a similar principle for learning philosophy. this has been repeatedly stated around here. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/15
To Learn Philosophy, Do Projects You Care About Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/15
Another comment on popular vote Josh Jordan President Donald Trump 2016/11/15
Bill Clinton tried to fix HRC's failure to connect with rural white voters Josh Jordan President Donald Trump 2016/11/15
Zuckerberg on being an aribiter of truth Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/15
Alan Dershowitz Defends Steve Bannon: ‘Not Legitimate To Call Somebody An Anti-Semite Because You Disagree With Their Policies’ Josh Jordan President Donald Trump 2016/11/15
:) Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/15
Quoted from Ideal (play) by Ayn Rand: "I saw a man once, when I was very young. He stood on a rock, high in the mountains. His arms were spread out and his body bent backward, and I could see him as an arc against the sky. He stood still and tense, l Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/15
age and time left for a career could be part of it. i don't think that's primary though. if Peter was good but old, he could do art. he had money anyway, so no reason not to do good painting even if it was unpaid. another part could be because Roar Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/15
Do you think that's what Ayn Rand wanted to convey with "It's too late, Peter" or was it more matter of fact, as in, there is no time left to make a career as a painter, you need to start young. Or was it something he saw in the paintings? Because I r Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/15
i'm guessing HB doesn't understand my speech primarily because he isn't very interested. just like how he doesn't understand my text either! i guess he went into the video ready to find an excuse not to watch it. i'd still be interested in making m curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/15
> Your accent is indeed strong, and it sounds a bit "snob" or "gay" to me. Maybe that can be off putting to some people? that would not surprise me. accents are common and often sound strong to others, even if people don't know they're speaking wit curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/15
Speeding is not a problem to me as I've been practicing speeding videos to the point some people sound more natural if sped up now, but it could be a problem to others. Your accent is indeed strong, and it sounds a bit "snob" or "gay" to me. Maybe tha Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/15
i don't claim to be a great speaker, and i've noticed sometimes i trail off so the last couple words before i stop talking can be hard to hear. i also think my accent is strong to some people. and i sped the video up to 125% which may be an issue here curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/15
You tend to mumble a bit in your videos, maybe because you are thinking aloud. Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/15
reply to HB about my screencast curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/15
I forget the context in Red Pawn. Roark is trying to communicate with Peter. Peter could have had a shot at being an artist before, early in the book. Peter could still have a shot at being an artist if he learned Objectivism or some other gr Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/15
> Roark was communicating to Peter about a particular project in a way that Peter would understand, not communicating to a rational philosopher about the possibilities of life. So it was just too late to be a painter? Why? The character in Red P Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/15
Another comment on popular vote Neil P President Donald Trump 2016/11/15
HBL Moderation Neil P The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/15
HBL Moderation curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/14
Slate lying about Trump "access hollywood" tape Josh Jordan President Donald Trump 2016/11/14
Any screencast criticism? curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/14
NYT dishonesty @Trump & popular vote Josh Jordan President Donald Trump 2016/11/14
Roark was communicating to Peter about a particular project in a way that Peter would understand, not communicating to a rational philosopher about the possibilities of life. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/14
In Red Pawn by Ayn Rand a character says: "It's never too late while one lives - if one still wants to live." And years later Ayn Rand has Roark saying: "It's too late, Peter." Did Ayn Rand change her mind? Or it's just that Peter didn't real Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/14
Did anyone interesting contact you? Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/14
one can keep looking, and also talk with HBL, at the same time. (and anyway posting on HBL is looking b/c the audience can contact me.) Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/13
Did you read HB's book "How we know"? Is it any good? I didn't know HB was the person behind the Ayn Rand lexicon. Yes, that is really good. One can look up easily what Ayn Rand actually said about each concept. Also good to find where Ayn Rand sai Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/13
Reply to #7289 Mysterious J Immigration 2016/11/13
ppl refuse to read much curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/12
Discussing Burke curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/12
This isn’t the first time that intellectuals have given thinking a bad name. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/12
Trump lesson drawing Hitler parallels costs Bay Area teacher Alisa President Donald Trump 2016/11/12
as far as i know, HB wants to do philosophy and does do philosophy and wrote a philosophy book (How We Know) b/c he wanted to not as repayment of a debt. and HB actually discusses philosophy a lot, and writes about it a lot more than Peikoff, i think. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/12
> is a philosopher A Philosopher like Peikoff is a philosopher? Or unlike Peikoff (who doesn't consider himself a philosopher? In what way you consider HB a serious philosopher versus another person who says stuff on the Internet? > has perso Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/12
but, muh wage gap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjWBXbGVyQU thanks Alisa for letting me know about shoe0nhead. she is funny. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/12
someone made some good comments about the left! curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/12
the pay gap is dumb Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/12
Fact-checking claims of violence by Trump-supporters Alisa President Donald Trump 2016/11/12
The leftist media reactions to Reagan were the same as Trump Alisa President Donald Trump 2016/11/12
> Consider first the ACLU, whose advisory board once included the former Weather Underground terrorist Bernardine Dohrn. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/12
ACLU sux Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/12
HB: runs a discussion forum replies to a fair amount of stuff i say has personal knowledge of Ayn Rand and other interesting people is a philosopher has read a lot of stuff has longer back-and-forth discussions than most people is curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/12
Trump Explains How To Make Mexico Pay For Wall. Alisa President Donald Trump 2016/11/12
What positive traits does HB have? What are you trying to achieve by discussing with him? Sorry, I don't know anyone you would like. Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/12
> Some 1.4 million illegals who followed President Obama's request to sign up for two controversial amnesty programs could be among the first to face deportation under the new administration. > The reason: In exchange for getting into the two program Anonymous President Donald Trump 2016/11/12
> Do you think you will be able to change HB? no, i don't expect it. but he has some positive traits and i think i ought to seriously try speaking with HB and HBL. (some people have replied positively to me on HBL and also privately. including HB, curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/12
HB seems close minded, authoritarian, status-valuing. Do you think you will be able to change HB? Why? Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/12
for those who missed the pinnacle reference Ayn Rand in The Fountainhead Alex Epstein's Pinnacle 2016/11/12
The left is acting worse today than in 1980 because they are worse. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/12
programmer hiring and performance evaluation are super broken. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12929470 Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/12
HB didn't answer any of my questions and instead, after not reading long things, complained i quoted twitter curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/12
Learning Objectivism is more important than marketing it. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/11
1.4 million Obama amnesty applicants on deportation hit list Alisa President Donald Trump 2016/11/11
Nice explanation of why the popular vote is irrelevant Alisa President Donald Trump 2016/11/11
Lenin was a failure Alan The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/11
Childhood is worse than blood on your hands. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/11
Hillary and Obama are worse than you know. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/11
fat shaming isn't violence. so defense like against murderers is really confused. counter-shaming is mean and often ineffective. people like it because it helps them not be defensive (which is important) but there's much better ways. e.g. instead o Anonymous Feminist Refuses Discussion 2016/11/11
> And shaming people is not how to deal with shaming. If you think shaming is bad, don't do it. Being inconsistent and contradictory is the wrong approach. Why wouldn't shaming fat shamers count as self-defense? The same as killing a murderer would Anonymous Feminist Refuses Discussion 2016/11/11
Trump personally is kinda bad on Israel (but more out of ignorance than hatred). But he's made campaign promises to be good on Israel which he'll make some effort to keep. curi President Donald Trump 2016/11/11
@#7541 in general you want to compete at stuff where ideas matter more. but in elections you want to get votes from people who don't even know what MAGA stands for (one of the FB comments on the 1st day in office vid), so there's room for both. the Anonymous President Donald Trump 2016/11/11
Trump sending mixed messages to Israel Alisa President Donald Trump 2016/11/11
Binswanger, part 2 Neil P The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/11
Binswanger Neil P Objectivists Should Vote Trump! 2016/11/11
Trump's First Day in Office / effects of memes Alisa President Donald Trump 2016/11/11
I hope Bannon or Miller advise Trump away from these disastrous Israel policies. Alisa President Donald Trump 2016/11/11
Election could still result in Trump-Clinton tie: analyst Alisa President Donald Trump 2016/11/11
http://www.timesofisrael.com/adviser-says-trump-wont-rip-up-iran-deal-signals-he-may-not-move-embassy/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter some of Trump's people are squishy as hell. we'll have to see how things go... Anonymous President Donald Trump 2016/11/10
It wasn't the White vote that won the election for Trump: it was the Black, Latino, and poor vote Alisa President Donald Trump 2016/11/10
reply to HB @ politics curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/10
shoe0nhead answers a question about BLM Alisa The Super-Secret Handshake of the Black Community 2016/11/10
shoe0nhead answers a question about BLM Alisa The Super-Secret Handshake of the Black Community 2016/11/10
shoe0nhead answers a question from a feminist Alisa Feminist Refuses Discussion 2016/11/10
Coffin Handbills Alisa President Donald Trump 2016/11/10
The hollowness of the PC creed Josh Jordan President Donald Trump 2016/11/10
greatagain.gov Alisa President Donald Trump 2016/11/10
Grubhub boss tells pro-Trump employees to resign Alisa President Donald Trump 2016/11/10
Breitbart expanding to Germany & France Alisa President Donald Trump 2016/11/10
Breitbart expanding to Germany & France Alisa President Donald Trump 2016/11/10
Michigan middle-school students threatened by police & teachers for chanting "build the wall" Alisa President Donald Trump 2016/11/10
Dems & voter fraud Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/10
More from Ann Coulter CBC interview Alisa President Donald Trump 2016/11/10
Over 100 hate crime hoaxes, documented by Breitbart Alisa President Donald Trump 2016/11/10
Ann Coulter on why Trump won Alisa President Donald Trump 2016/11/10
GLICK on Trump's potential impact on Israel Alisa President Donald Trump 2016/11/10
Kris Kobach added to Trump's transition team! Alisa President Donald Trump 2016/11/10
Bannon for Trump Chief of Staff? Alisa President Donald Trump 2016/11/10
RIP, TPP Alisa President Donald Trump 2016/11/10
cool @ climate skeptic. and thx for all the links/quotes you've been posting. there are a lot of rumors about who Trump is picking for stuff. some people say he's picking Democrats and RINOs for stuff. i'm not gonna worry about it too much until he curi President Donald Trump 2016/11/10
mp Picks Top Climate Skeptic to Lead EPA Transition Alisa President Donald Trump 2016/11/10
Trump Picks Top Climate Skeptic to Lead EPA Transition Alisa President Donald Trump 2016/11/10
Lefties film themselves beating up a Trump supporter Alisa President Donald Trump 2016/11/10
Michael Moore has been predicting Trump's victory since July Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/09
Mobs rioting against democratic election results Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/09
The left hates democracy Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/09
Trump isn’t very religious and the left has gotten worse. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/09
The election exposed progressives as illiberal authoritarians Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/09
The election exposed progressives as illiberal authoritarians Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/09
Exit poll demographics Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/09
It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/09
How Breitbart's Bannon influenced Trump's final phase of the campaign Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/09
Ann Coulter is a wise philosopher Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/09
Dems & voter fraud Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/09
how wrong the media was about Trump Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/09
One-state solution: it's not just Glick that gets it Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/09
> gp @ more voter fraud. Do you think the mistaken exit polls might have fooled her team into cheating less? i doubt it. it's really hard to control how much you cheat in a fine-grained way. they have an ethos of cheating. they do what they think t Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/09
Hillary's biggest mistakes, according to /pol Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/09
Brady and Belichick's support for Trump Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/09
Hillary didn't do anything wrong. Her low-energy, no-substance campaign matched her ideas, as is fitting. And so we got the proper outcome and America is better off. Everything worked out. If you wanna say she made a mistake, OK, sure. *Don't run f curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/09
Hillary's biggest mistakes, according to /pol Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/09
America wins! Anonymous President Donald Trump 2016/11/09
I applaud your enthusiasm! Jesse F President Donald Trump 2016/11/09
Interesting comment @ voter fraud in FL & Ohio Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/09
TRUMPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!! (this is an HBL post) curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/09
Voting for trump as a way to fight back against political correctness Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/09
Debunking accusations that Trump is a racist Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/09
News Media Yet Again Misreads America’s Complex Pulse (NY Times) Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/09
News Media Yet Again Misreads America’s Complex Pulse (NY Times) Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/09
"check your privilege" is so stupid Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/09
Quote from Trump's victory speech Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/09
Clueless media Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/09
Reddit comments on Trump's victory speech Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/09
Reddit comments on Trump's victory speech Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/09
How Trump's China Trade policy helped him win Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/08
House of Reps decides who wins if neither candidate gets 270 electoral votes Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/08
Good comment on Donald Trump's Argument for America Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/08
Fuck electronic voting Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/08
Fuck electronic voting Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/08
Exit polls say twice as many people want a strong leader than in 2012 Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/08
Screencast of my HBL thinking and writing process curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/08
Finishing an alternative puzzle solution. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/07
more on the puzzle curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/07
bad puzzle curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/07
bad puzzle curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/07
What specifically is the mistake in thinking 10^100^100 is a natural number? curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/07
Dividing the distance across a room Josh Jordan The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/07
I think this is irrelevant to what we are discussing. Which is are statements that are part of refuted theories necessarily refuted if they part of refuted theories. The answer to this question must be no, ,, , Anonymous Rejecting Gradations of Certainty 2016/11/07
refuted includes false as well as ambiguous and incoherent stuff. e.g. "dogs are" without any question it's supposed to be an answer to isn't exactly false but it's refuted by the criticism that it doesn't make clear what problem it's supposed to addr Anonymous Rejecting Gradations of Certainty 2016/11/07
Oops, sorry, I was not aware of the convention. Anonymous Rejecting Gradations of Certainty 2016/11/07
any idea that doesn't stand on its own is refuted by the "that's incomplete" criticism. it doesn't work. it needs something else which is missing. "Dogs are animals." does stand on its own, of course... This is a very strange way of saying somethi Anonymous Rejecting Gradations of Certainty 2016/11/07
stop posting unmarked quotes. quotes go like this: > quoted text Anonymous Rejecting Gradations of Certainty 2016/11/07
t can get rid of the criticized thing. or it can add a new thing to handle the criticism. an explanation of why X is wrong does not explain why X+Y is wrong if Y is a counter-criticism refuting the criticism or an explanation of why the criticism does Anonymous Rejecting Gradations of Certainty 2016/11/07
any idea that doesn't stand on its own is refuted by the "that's incomplete" criticism. it doesn't work. it needs something else which is missing. "Dogs are animals." does stand on its own, of course... Anonymous Rejecting Gradations of Certainty 2016/11/07
the sub-part has to stand on its own or it's refuted too This is false. Singular statements that are the content of theories cannot be refuted in this way. If they are true, they are true. What you mean to say is that they are not independently tes Anonymous Rejecting Gradations of Certainty 2016/11/07
Let me pull back though. I agre though that theories that we accept can be used as critical ammunition against new ideas, and that we do build a stock of criticism. criticisms are explanations and the more we develope explanations of the world we can Anonymous Rejecting Gradations of Certainty 2016/11/07
the idea as a whole is refuted. take the whole thing. evaluate it. false! you can get new ideas by breaking out out some sub-parts of prior ideas as separate ideas, which may or may not be refuted. the sub-part has to stand on its own or it's refut Anonymous Rejecting Gradations of Certainty 2016/11/07
you don't mean the idea as a whole. You mean a theory is refuted, but even refuted theories have content that is true. Ideas are not fully formed theories, they are sometimes just statements like, I want to make tea with cinnamon. Etc. Also if th Anonymous Rejecting Gradations of Certainty 2016/11/07
HB posted a last minute plea for everyone to vote for Hillary. What a fool. Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/07
> The novelty is not refuted just because some other bit is refuted. the idea as a whole is refuted already. if there's any value in the novel part, then make a new idea which includes it but isn't already refuted. **then** we'd need a new criti Anonymous Rejecting Gradations of Certainty 2016/11/07
Haha, invariant of socialism seems apt. But I mean to say variant. Anonymous Rejecting Gradations of Certainty 2016/11/07
Yes, I agree with what you are saying. But what zi am trying to highlight is that each new invariant of socialism has some new content, that new content is not effected by the criticism of the previous one, so the new content itself, could still be go Anonymous Rejecting Gradations of Certainty 2016/11/07
you often don't need a new criticism. for example, consider addition of two even numbers. a criticism of some solutions is the answer can't be odd. there are infinitely many new ideas to be found claiming stuff like 234231+78293434=5 and 23434+8239 Anonymous Rejecting Gradations of Certainty 2016/11/07
I was not claiming that it does. Both yours and my criticisms of justification are not in conflict. I was just highlighting with my own criticism. You accept the difference I posted oiut, between justificationist fallibilism and anti-justificationism Anonymous Rejecting Gradations of Certainty 2016/11/07
I want to add to the above comment. Ideas that are in conflict with other ideas, means that a problem can be identified, namely that we have to devise a way to choose between the ideas. A criticism in the end is just an idea, or an explanation, that o Anonymous Rejecting Gradations of Certainty 2016/11/07
HB writes but has banned replying on HBL: > So the positive support in this case is of the form: in all the cases so far considered, when the hypothetical cause is present, the effect is present. The corollary is: in at least some cases, when the h Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/07
@#7444 i sympathize. once you understand philosophy well, lots of stuff that most people are massively confused about becomes kinda easy. philosophy is awesome like that. Anonymous Rejecting Gradations of Certainty 2016/11/07
that's not what i mean. a point i differ on: how can evidence+theories support any theory when it either does or doesn't refute every theory? curi Rejecting Gradations of Certainty 2016/11/07
"btw looking at an increasing stock of criticism making it more and more difficult to brainstorm new ideas that aren't refuted by pre-existing criticism is my original idea. some of this other stuff is my refined versions too." Really, I thought it Anonymous Rejecting Gradations of Certainty 2016/11/07
how to get infinite patterns from a finite data set curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/07
What curi means is that fallibilist philosophy is just the acceptance that there is no certainty. Difference between anti-justificationism and fallibalist justificationism, is that fallibilist justificationism believes that we can confirm our hypothes Anonymous Rejecting Gradations of Certainty 2016/11/07
Did numbers exist before there was life? Josh Jordan The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/07
Philosophy PAS The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/07
Context of Peano's axioms Josh Jordan The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/07
The converse of Peano’s axiom Josh Jordan The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/07
HB Closes Epistemology Discussion Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/07
HB detail clarifying curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/07
I can’t tell what you mean by “certainty”. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/07
Appearances and the external world. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/07
I don’t think causality is observable. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/07
point by point reply to HB curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/07
re-asking some of the basic questions about support and evidence curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/07
some of them really hate Trump :( curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/07
Error = possibility of improvement Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/07
Peano's axioms Josh Jordan The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/07
Interpreting Peano's axioms Josh Jordan The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/06
I guess he's supportive of them as a good way to deal with small numbers. Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/06
Peano's axioms Josh Jordan The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/06
Question about BSGS algorithm for discrete logarithm Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/06
@#7422 who are you? i don't know what to do with this with no idea what perspective you're coming from. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/06
Thanks Elliot Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/06
Final election thoughts. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/06
Nate Silver is immoral. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/06
Questions are wonderful. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/06
I do consider myself an Objectivist. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/06
Discussing epistemology. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/06
Whatever field you assign the problem to, it matters and Popper solves it. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/06
My review of Ayn Rand Contra Human Nature curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/06
Perception, physics, knowledge of reality. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/06
1 Washington state Democratic elector won’t support Clinton, another won’t commit Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/05
Dave Chappelle defends Trump! Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/05
DAve Chappelle defends Trump! Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/05
The many things one could look at. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/05
Are Peano’s axioms compatible with the idea of a maximum natural number? Josh Jordan The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/05
I like your thoughts on WtL > *Kira sacrificing herself to try to communicate with the foreigners wouldn't have saved Russia. If the foreigners wanted to know what was going on in Russia, they would have. There was a problem of willful blindness. I Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/05
Thoughts on Thoughts on We The Living curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/05
none of the bystanders actually have a clue what Oism says or how to defend it or even what the questions at issue are curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/05
#7400 > I think you’re accepting a bunch of philosophical misconceptions that are extremely dominant in our culture and which contain some knowledge that works to blind the holder to the problems they cause. You mean static memes right? Do you Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/05
How Liberals really feel about black people & voter ID laws Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/04
> What about copying stuff to my computer for reading after 2 weeks? i think that's totally fine if you copy the current discussions you've been reading. if you were using programming to copy all old posts, that's a grey area. > Does he give Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/04
> Don't do that. That would be initiation of force to steal from HBL. That would violate HB's rights. What about copying stuff to my computer for reading after 2 weeks? > Pay for HBL or email HB to ask for a discount or stop being a member. D FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/04
person made several posts and was kinda lost so i hope this helps curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/04
Evolution underlies intelligence. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/04
evan reply curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/04
they pretend to have all the details like concept formation but they're actually just skipping a lot of the low level curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/04
they have no clue how intelligence works, yet think they are solving epistemology by saying how to use intelligence curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/04
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/794197411144941568 > Obama is talking about his legacy. Clinton is talking about the first woman president. Meanwhile, the narcissist is talking about America. Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/04
evan reply curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/04
Here are 3 good plans: Learn Smash Bros. Learn Objectivism and liberalism. Learn epistemology (so e.g. you could be the one explaining it to HBL -- you could learn all that stuff). These don't have a lot of spareness issues, either, cuz th Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/04
Sparse Systems Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/04
test Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/04
going ok with evan curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/04
Feynman on learning Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/04
> Don't delude yourself into thinking you can cover the entire space, and disown the idea of getting everything perfect. really bad writing. he should have written "and DO disown..." otherwise it's really easy to read the not as carrying over Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/04
Oists seem to think idea-space is sparse and you look around and find good ideas. Actually idea-space is very very densely packed with bad ideas which are not trivial to discard as "arbitrary". Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/04
Feynman on learning Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/04
Feynman on learning Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/04
Evan makes more sense than HB curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/04
the different Oists don't keep their story straight on infallibility curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/04
Sparse Systems Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/04
Rand quotes making an exception to fallibilism? curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/04
don't know what Evan's point about perception is; presumably infallibilism curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/04
trying again to ask HB about the problems in epistemology that CR solves and Oism doesn't curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/04
HB keeps evaluating things I say using premises i deny curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/04
HB reply curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/04
2 more curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/04
2 short replies curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/04
Don't do that. That would be initiation of force to steal from HBL. That would violate HB's rights. Pay for HBL or email HB to ask for a discount or stop being a member. curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/04
Skepticism and fallibilism differences. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/04
Three questions. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/04
Can you make multiple accounts to continue reading after 2 weeks on HBL? FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/04
Rigged Polls: Tests Show College Grads Conceal Support For Donald Trump Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/04
Politico's "fact check" said Trump lied in calling ISIS unbelievably evil Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/04
explanations not primitives Alan Forrester The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/03
ppl not paying much attention curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/03
How We Know doesn’t answer my questions. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/03
Going beyond correlation. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/03
Computers don’t compute? curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/03
3 posts curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/03
How is information about probability? curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/03
Fallibilism isn’t skepticism. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/03
Arithmetic calculation is complex; dualism; principled criticism. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/03
> i tried iPhone and mac, didn't see it. where's the option? Above "word wise" and below "share progress" I **did not** try it on iOS. I tried it on android app. FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/03
i tried iPhone and mac, didn't see it. where's the option? Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/03
> it appears to only be on amazon hardware only, not kindle app. I have not tried it with pirated books. I said " kindle app " because I bought a book and opened it on " kindle app " on my phone which had the option of " word runner ". You are FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/03
it appears to only be on amazon hardware only, not kindle app. it appears to be one word at a time only, which sucks really badly. curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/03
Kindle app has word Runner now for speed reading. Has anyone checked that out? FF Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/03
test driven development Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/03
functions are less testable than data Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/03
Induction questions. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/03
Arithmetic is Complicated and Fallible curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/03
Josh are you familiar with test driven development? Actually writing tests before code is a way to create testable code. Turpentine, I think he meant functions dealing with immutable data. I guess he wrote "over" because he was thinking about mappi Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/03
functions are less testable than data oh my god it's turpentine Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/03
hbl posts Alan Forrester Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/03
HB thinks i'm angry and is a dualist(?) curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/02
How to lie without statistics - ProPublica edition Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/02
How to lie without statistics - ProPublica edition Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/02
Programming tip: design for testability Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/02
Programming tip w/array indices Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/02
The truth about PIA Macmolly Questions 2016/11/02
i increased mobile font size some curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/02
hard to read these comments on an iphone. font size is too small. Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/02
> Picked at random > Mein Kampf happened to come to mind at that time as an old book available on the internet. I didn't think of it as hostile. I might have come to your mind randomly, by why did you accepted it uncritically? You had a first conj Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/02
> the summary was hard to write for this one "discussion is asynchronous and agreement and disagreement with Objectivist epistemology" Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/02
people like mental illness because it goes with the culture. the culture values having others evaluating you and telling you who you are. the culture values being sick. people compete who is the sickest. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/02
i wasn't suggesting twitter to discuss and reach agreements. i was suggesting to spread some counter awareness. if there's not enough people using a #szazs tag, it won't trend, it won't serve as counter awareness to this evil of spreading "menta Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/02
> i argued Szasz stuff on HBL and, even though people were rather hostile to the ideas, no one called me delusional. the threads were locked. maybe because it would be considered a flame to call you delusional. and because you like Ayn Rand. you Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/02
i argued Szasz stuff on HBL and, even though people were rather hostile to the ideas, no one called me delusional. you do the twitter Szasz advocacy though. i've got better more effective things to do than get flamed on twitter by people with no in curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/02
> The Advocate, a magazine which once praised me as a “gay innovator,” even published an article saying that as of now I am, and I quote, “not a gay man,” Being gay it's about culture and not about inborn sexual needs or about sexual prefer Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/02
And the thing is, you argue against this people, they will call you delusional. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/02
Have you seen the #MeAndMyMentalIllness tag on Twitter. It's trending. People are spreading "mental illness awareness" on Twitter because of some TV show where it seems some celeb confessed they were mentally ill. An opportunity to spread Szazs awaren Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/02
Transcript of strong speech by Peter Thiel speech (Oct 31, 2016) Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/02
counting by 10s should be a valid way to reach a number and why not count by 1000s? 1000000s? etc Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/02
How big is 10^100^100? Josh Jordan Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/02
a few replies curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/01
Big numbers and the human brain Josh Jordan The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/01
Is the maximum valid integer bounded by the laws of physics or by technology? Josh Jordan The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/01
Which integers can be said to exist? Josh Jordan The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/01
Are the real numbers invalid? Josh Jordan The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/01
> Reminds me of manufacturing. Say your assembly line has three processes that need to happen to your product before you can ship it. Each process takes a certain amount of time and has a certain chance of malfunctioning and ruining the product. In wh Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/01
the summary was hard to write for this one curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/01
Galt on fallibility Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/01
ET quotes from HBL Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/01
some characteristics still work and some don't. if you think the large things that move are people, and the small ones are cats and dogs (and bugs), that seems to work until you find an elephant or gorilla or car. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/01
ok. what i'm still unclear about is this: >It is still true that man is a rational animal who speaks, does things no other living beings can do, walks on two legs, has no fur, moves and makes sounds. she's taking those answers from *old* cont Kate Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/01
> is she claiming that it would be impossible for subsequent knowledge to contradict a previous definition? you have to look at contextual knowledge the right way. ask yourself: "In this context, what should I believe?" learning a new thing curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/01
ItOE questions Kate Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/01
i was wondering much earlier in the white xmas special if he was on the job to get some secret out of the other guy. however i thought it was unlikely at first because of them having been at that location/job/whatever for 5 years which seemed too long curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/01
replying to a different guy about induction and direct perception curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/01
Black Mirror TV show: ep 306: a B for the bees. not bad. a little like the recent DDOSes using insecure webcams and shit. super unrealistic bee targeting and AI though. white xmas special: best ep! PUA!!! decent realistic reasonable PUA looking, curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/01
history books oh my god it's turpentine What To Read 2016/11/01
Pragmatic concerns, non-refuted thinking, continuums, evidence, and seeking a devil’s advocate. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/01
What are parse trees? Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/01
My sentences should have short parse trees Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/01
Induction and weighing evidence. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/01
Arbitrariness, pragmatism and consciousness. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/01
misc HB replies curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/01
Mouse. It does seem like a game where a tablet would do well. curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/01
Alisa: > Scored ~62500 at Google' Halloween Doodle game. Finished with ♥ ♥ ♥ ♡ ♡ curi: > i beat level 2 without getting hit, 17120 score. stopped there What did you guys use, mouse or tablet? I used a mouse and arthritis got in t Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/01
Black Mirror TV show: ep 301: 3 stars for the 5 stars ep. decent portrayal of some of society's lies. terrible ending with initiation of force against a wedding with the message that lashing out to hurt people feels good and is worth being thrown i curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/01
https://stephenwhitt.wordpress.com/2013/06/27/dan-brown-inferno-and-david-deutsch/ > I’ve said many times that reading The Beginning of Infinity by David Deutsch changed my life... so invite him to FI to *discuss* the book and understand it be Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/01
someone asked for help arguing with anti-semites curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/01
Mistakes of Karl Popper Josh Jordan The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/11/01
We ALWAYS need error correction Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/01
Macbook alternatives Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/01
Brett Slatkin on Macbook alternatives Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/01
Whitt hates Roark Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/01
Whitt hates Roark Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/01
Michael Tsai: New MacBook Pros and the State of the Mac Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/01
The Mac Platform Decline? Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/01
Whitt says, >It seems that the people who take The Beginning of Infinity seriously are, well, rather screwy. Their ideas lead to horrible outcomes, including things like letting people die on the street if they can’t afford health care. Is th anon Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/01
Whitt hates Roark Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/01
thoughts on posting Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/01
Immigration conversation w/FB friend #2 Alisa Immigration 2016/11/01
Whitt hates Roark oh my god it's turpentine Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/11/01
Immigration conversation w/FB friend #1 Alisa Immigration 2016/11/01
Immigration conversation w/FB friend #1 Alisa Immigration 2016/11/01
Stephen Whitt on The Beginning of Infinity Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/31
Stephen Whitt on The Beginning of Infinity Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/31
Black Mirror TV show: ep 201: ok ep overall. the AI and robotics stuff wasn't realistic. negative theme (dead husband). ep 202: very, very mean. ep 203: the guy behind waldo was pretty angry and unhappy and ineffective/pathetic. too many o curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/31
Black Mirror (TV show) Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/31
remap caps-lock to both control AND escape! Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/31
Black Mirror TV show: ep 101: meh. just trying to get attention with the topic of pig fucking. the characters are stupid and incompetent and don't have a clue about not negotiating with kidnappers. he shouldn't have done it. oh and his wife's a par curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/31
Google's Halloween Doodle game Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/31
i beat level 2 without getting hit, 17120 score. stopped there curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/31
Google's Halloween Doodle game Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/31
Clarifications curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/31
Physical measurements can be wrong, meaning they can be outside the margin of error. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/31
Benjamin Button Reviews The New MacBook Pro Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/31
W3C Battery Status readout as a privacy risk Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/31
> Damn, that's terrible. Why!?! i don't know why. > Does sweat not get into lightning jacks? i assume some does, but i've never noticed any problem as a result. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/31
> apple defaults xcode to make apps that won't rotate upside down. Damn, that's terrible. Why!?! Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/31
Study Finds Racial Discrimination by Uber and Lyft Drivers Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/31
On the iPhone 7's lack of an audio jack Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/31
> Thoughts? being selective about your clients is good business practice. race-indicating names provide meaningful cultural information. discrimination should be legal and is often wise. my guess is Uber drivers discriminate too little (fr Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/31
Picked at random Alan Forrester The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/31
Study Finds Racial Discrimination by Uber and Lyft Drivers Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/31
isn't USB-C larger with a thing in the middle of the port? apple has changed major ports ONCE on ipods/iphones. they thought it through. lightning is a long term choice. i think not having an audio jack is worse today, but is a good decision in Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/31
On the iPhone 7's lack of an audio jack Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/31
On the iPhone 7's lack of an audio jack Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/31
> He believes in "having last words". He is not going to let discussions to a conclusion. He is not interested in agreements being reached. He used the "authority" of a Ayn Rand's quote to make a point which doesn't even defend his idea that using for Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/31
I accept physical probability but not epistemological probability. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/31
HB closed the Myth of Mental Illness thread which was my favorite. :( He believes in "having last words". He is not going to let discussions to a conclusion. He is not interested in agreements being reached. He used the "authority" of a Ayn Rand's Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/31
HB said in post 13833 at http://www.hbletter.com/forum/member-forum/why-im-voting-for-trump/: > But this kind of similarity is not good evidence that this person is like your father. Why not? No explanation given. I have noticed this before. Whe Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/31
Is there a criticism of accepting this idea (as knowledge) in this context? Yes or no? curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/30
Evolution is a theory in epistemology. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/30
e^(-10^14) Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/30
Popper and I meant metaphysically possible, not epistemologically possible. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/30
> No, more of the blame goes to people who accuse someone else of being mentally ill. Many "patients" resist their "diagnosis" and "treatment". Also, many of the "patients" are children, the elderly, or otherwise don't have the power to control the si Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/30
> The people who make psychiatry possible are people who believe they are mentally ill. No, more of the blame goes to people who accuse someone else of being mentally ill. Many "patients" resist their "diagnosis" and "treatment". Also, many of the Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/30
One Flew Over The Cucko's Nest scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc0_Xnvl3t4 The people who make psychiatry possible are people who believe they are mentally ill. They do not want the responsibility that the person they are today was self-c Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/30
ok. so then: >what are you saying they do with stuff that is even MORE DIFFERENT than the way normal ppl are. more specifically, what do they call a degree of sadness or a degree of not listening to your teacher which is even MORE DIFFERENT than Kate Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/30
> do you have any examples of somewhat common patterns of thinking in our society, which psychiatrists call "crazy"? homosexuality, not long ago. sadness or not listening to your teacher, today. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/30
do you have any examples of somewhat common patterns of thinking in our society, which psychiatrists call "crazy"? and if psychiatrists call this somewhat common stuff (which you're thinking of) "crazy", then what are you saying they do with stuff Kate Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/30
if someone is "crazy" you would expect their "crazy" ideas to be some unusual non-standard ideas. it's weird to take a somewhat common pattern of thinking in a society and call that "crazy", rather than reserve "crazy" for really different stuff. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/30
Weirdness in Golang with nil values & interfaces Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/30
>psychiatry looks for things that are THE SAME ABOUT MANY PEOPLE to call mental illness >rather than looking for DIFFERENCES – a way a person is different than others >you would think being "mentally ill" would consist of some DIFFERENCES from Kate Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/30
Mad Science: Psychiatric Coercion, Diagnosis, and Drugs Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/30
http://www.wayneramsay.com/evil.htm > Sadly, legislators refuse to repeal, and continue to write, laws that assume honesty on the part of psychiatrists, psychologists, family members, and other supporters and perpetrators of psychiatric oppression Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/30
Doctors routinely lie to get people involuntarily committed Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/30
Anti-psychiatry advocate Torrey changed direction 180 degrees Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/30
Wayne Ramsey was in contact with Szasz! Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/30
The guy who invented antiseptics was committed to an insane asylum and died there Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/30
The guy who invented antiseptics was committed to an insane asylum and died there Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/30
Weirdness in Golang with nil values & interfaces Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/30
Psychiatric drug industry goes after dissenter Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/30
what's not to understand? it's not hard to make == dumb in a language. look at fucking javascript: > 3 == "3" < true you have to use === to check if they are actually equal, and == has special automatic type conversion stuff built in (whi Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/30
Weirdness in Golang with nil values & interfaces Ailsa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeEx1MqqE7M gp from vid psychiatry looks for things that are THE SAME ABOUT MANY PEOPLE to call mental illness rather than looking for DIFFERENCES – a way a person is different than others you would think Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/29
Law Project for Psychiatric Rights Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/29
The Myth of Psychiatric Diagnosis Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/29
I wasn’t talking about the finite precision of measuring devices. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/29
Do Psychiatry Drugs Work? curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/29
i just noticed on Twitter that you use emojis tons now. what made you change your mind on emojis? Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/29
How measuring devices work. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/29
Infallibility Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/29
Measurements, like everything, are fallible. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/29
Knowledge & arbitraryness Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/29
Knowledge & arbitraryness Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/29
underpaid Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/29
i think the HN commenter, and many of his coworkers, are unpaid. he didn't properly factor in the difficulty of hiring someone else who is good when negotiating his salary. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/29
great comment on HN. great examples. really gives you a clue about why people misunderstand **philosophy essays** when they fail to even read that the serial number is on a sticker on back. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/29
Most technical job interview candidates suck Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/29
The contradiction isn’t clear to me, I think it’s coming from infallibilist premises. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/29
No high bar for knowledge claims. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/29
> I'm not particularly interested in Smash Bros at the moment, but now at least I think I could become interested in it if I wanted to. it would be wise for you and others to become interested, because it's a learning opportunity with many very goo Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/29
it's really getting new knowledge you don't already have that's interesting, even if you do start with some knowledge. i shoulda said that clearer. Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/29
> Replication of what, if you started with "non-knowledge"? for example, crystals. more generally, some information. Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/29
Linking post numbers Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/29
Learning & choosing SSBM chars Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/29
> Good guess, but no: it was linked in both of those in your #7199. only because i changed the code already. curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/29
> There is a fundamental problem in epistemology: how can knowledge be gotten from non-knowledge? > There is only one answer that has ever been thought of, by anyone, which makes any sense. That answer is the theory of evolution. Knowledge can be cre Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/29
Interests & learning Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/29
Improvement-oriented attitudes Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/29
> Maybe the comma after interfered? > #7196 > #7196, Good guess, but no: it was linked in both of those in your #7199. Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/29
Popperians aren’t skeptics. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/29
Misunderstandings. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/29
More on Popper. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/29
Evolutionary epistemology. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/29
Error is physically and logically possible. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/29
> Why is Tessa still on FI? public group. ask her, not Elliot. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/29
interest is important to learning. interests are a big deal. when you read FI stuff talking about interests ... perhaps you didn't learn it because you weren't interested? this is why, to learn Smash Bros., you should start by playing the game and Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/29
> I was thinking I could maybe improve my life if I developed a strong interest in my life How and why did you lose interest in the first place? And how do you develop a strong interest in your life? Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/29
> Why didn't the #7196 in my previous message get automatically hyperlinked? Maybe the comma after interfered? #7196 #7196, Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/29
Linking post numbers Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/29
Improving at my lowest ranked games first Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/29
Improvement-oriented attitudes Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/29
Why is Tessa still on FI? All she does is lie. She is pitiful. She has no self-esteem. Do you think she has potential as a thinker or do you use her as a mistake to learn from? You say one should not help the weak but the best. Why are you spending yo Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/29
Airbnb Community Commitment Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
SJWs push for whatever they can get. airbnb giving in. doesn't seem surprising. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
Airbnb Community Commitment Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
I'm enjoying the comments forum here. I consider it the xoxohth of FI. And I mean that as a compliment! Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
put this in google: airbnb racism lawsuit Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
I would disagree with Airbnb making even *hosts* sign this agreement, since I think people should be able to do what they want with their property. But usually in America individuals have the "right to be racist" in their personal lives. In dating, Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
The Airbnb Community Commitment Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
Maybe I can learn something about how to answer questions, or how to say things, or how to think about things in a way that will lead to a better discussion next time. Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
you claimed to have something to say, i asked what it was, and after a lot of delays it turned out to be that you know how to implement if using if, which, as you must know, i already knew how to do too. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> you have indirection and a technical point matching one particular vague wording you gave in the middle of the discussion, nothing substantive, interesting or worthwhile. My initial reference to Lisp and if/then/else in #7137 was a substantive a Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
you have indirection and a technical point matching one particular vague wording you gave in the middle of the discussion, nothing substantive, interesting or worthwhile. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> your interpreter is implemented with goto. all you're doing is adding several layers of indirection. At the risk of repeating myself, I'm not talking about doing implementing (if foo bar baz) *without goto*, I'm talking about implementing (if foo Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
your interpreter is implemented with goto. all you're doing is adding several layers of indirection. you don't have a different way to implement it (which would have been interesting), despite repeatedly claiming to. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> so now we're back to "omg it's dynamic-jump not naive-jump" which i addressed earlier and you got confused by why i spoke about it? >> I think that the Lisp version of if/else (if foo bar baz) could be implemented a stack machine or something els Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
so now we're back to "omg it's dynamic-jump not naive-jump" which i addressed earlier and you got confused by why i spoke about it? we're literally talking about lispy gotos and now all of a sudden you're hung up on the exact implementation details Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
C's goto statement can only jump to a label that was present at compile time in your C program. If your C program is evaluating the Lisp code (if foo bar baz), then the C code can't jump to bar or baz specifically, because they didn't exist when the C Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> > you mean by implementing it with an if2 that uses a goto2 to jump to bar or baz? > No. then what *meaningfully different* implementation is there? Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> you mean by implementing it with an if2 that uses a goto2 to jump to bar or baz? No. But if you were going to do it that way, it would be with an if2 that uses a goto2 to jump to something else (that is not bar or baz) on level2. bar and baz are Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> At the risk of repeating myself, I'm not talking about doing implementing (if foo bar baz) *without goto*, I'm talking about implementing (if foo bar baz) *without a goto that jumps to bar or baz*. you mean by implementing it with an if2 that use Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> if you define if with goto2 and define goto2 with goto, you aren't doing it without goto, you're just being a sophist. At the risk of repeating myself, I'm not talking about doing implementing (if foo bar baz) *without goto*, I'm talking about im Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> That's one way to do it. You can also do it without goto, as I showed. if you define if with goto2 and define goto2 with goto, you aren't doing it without goto, you're just being a sophist. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> You can also do it without goto, as I showed. I mean, without a goto jumping specifically to the true case or the false case. Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> I think of if/else as a sort of primitive construct that may or may not be related to goto. here you claim if/else may not be "related to goto". but you can't tell us any way to do if/else that isn't related to goto. you claim you were misu Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
>hey look, it's lisp implementing IF with JUMP-IF-NOT just like i was talking about before. That's one way to do it. You can also do it without goto, as I showed. Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
LISP is a nice book with a nice name (lisp in small pieces -> LISP). p 229 defines JUMP-FALSE and GOTO then for if it has p230: (define (ALTERNATIVE m1 m2 m3) (append m1 (JUMP-FALSE (+ 1 (length m2))) m2 (GOTO (length m3)) m3) ) hey loo Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> this is pure sophistry. My earlier question about this still applies. > the whole thing runs on gotos at a lower level. yet you keep making claims about e.g. *CPU implementations*, rather than sticking to clearly saying "at a high level of abs Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> Lisp is often implemented with gotos, see Chapter 7 of "Lisp in Small Pieces" by Christian Queinnec. I don't know how you would quantify "often". (do you count all the Lisp implementations done by people going through SICP, or the Javascript impl Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
this is pure sophistry. the whole thing runs on gotos at a lower level. yet you keep making claims about e.g. *CPU implementations*, rather than sticking to clearly saying "at a high level of abstraction, ignoring the lower level, then no goto" (which Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
>> That description omits most of the content of what I learned. >it's just your own description written more clearly. How is it clearer? After reading your description, I still wouldn't know how to understand, say, Duff's device. But after read Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> you denied it literally in that quote by saying "might not be implemented with a goto" even though if2 calls if1 which calls goto, so it is implemented with a goto. You cut off an important part of my sentence. My full quote was: > in Lisp, Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
Lisp implementation and gotos oh my god it's turpentine Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> That description omits most of the content of what I learned. it's just your own description written more clearly. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> I expect that due to the way modern CPUs work, there are gotos involved somewhere in a lot of code that runs, but gotos don't have to be directly involved in the implementation of an if/else. you are taking an absurdity and running with it. se Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> Right. What I learned from the article is that thinking of switch in terms of goto is the easiest way to understand what switch does (if you want to explain all the weird behavior of switch). > you learned from the article that the easiest way to Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> Right. What I learned from the article is that thinking of switch in terms of goto is the easiest way to understand what switch does (if you want to explain all the weird behavior of switch). you learned from the article that the easiest way to u Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> i said IFs are implemented with gotos and are similar to switch. you said you have a different way to implement them but you don't actually have one, all you have is a higher level of abstraction that ignores the underlying implementation. you could Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> your point could have been summed up as "if you think of something as a primitive and ignore how it's implemented, then in your conception none of the underlying concepts exist". this was stated very very misleadingly (by arguing with me about imple Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> You don't have to think of switch in terms of goto to reason about it either. Right. What I learned from the article is that thinking of switch in terms of goto is the easiest way to understand what switch does (if you want to explain all the wei Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
you don't have to think of switch in terms of goto to reason about it either. we were talking about implementations. goto is part of the implementation. you can ignore it by looking at higher levels of abstraction, but stop denying it. your point c Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> your point seems to be that you can define if1 with goto, then define if2 with if1 and pretend you aren't using goto. this is sophistry. One dictionary says: >>> the use of fallacious arguments, especially with the intention of deceiving. D Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
that says how eval-if is implemented, not if. notice the if which is being assumed in there. your point seems to be that you can define if1 with goto, then define if2 with if1 and pretend you aren't using goto. this is sophistry. (set if2 (lambd Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> There's already one implementation of an if, and they'r'e the existing implementation using it to define a separate implementation of "if" in the interpreter they're writing. Ops, this got garbled. I meant to say: There's already one implement Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
>>One example if implementing if/then/else without using goto in the way I described, would be implementing (if then else) in Lisp, as shown in the "conditionals" section of SICP [0] > this does not make sense. when i scroll down to "conditions" i Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
"conditionals" Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
this does not make sense. when i scroll down to "conditions" i see DEFINE and IF used. so it doesn't say how the IF is implemented. IF is already being assumed. and as to DEFINE, that makes a function, which i understand to use jump. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
>> in Lisp, the (if foo bar baz) statement might not be implemented with a goto that jumps to bar or baz depending on the value of foo. Whereas I would guess that in C, if (foo) {bar} else {baz} generally is implemented with the assembly-language vers Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
what is this non-goto implementation you are talking about? Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> you were saying something to do with Lisp and some difference from goto. I wrote: >> Like I think that the Lisp version of if/else (if foo bar baz) could be implemented a stack machine or something else. Not necessarily involving a goto jumpin Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> Like I think that the Lisp version of if/else (if foo bar baz) could be implemented a stack machine or something else. Not necessarily involving a goto jumping to the specific statement. you were saying something to do with Lisp and some differen Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
I'm very confused by what you're saying. I doubt anything I say in trying to answer your questions directly will help, because I don't understand the questions. Can you make it very simple for me? Like, either phrase a direct question that includes Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
you were vague and i guessed you meant the use of RETURN is different than GOTO/JUMP. if that's not what you meant, what are you trying to say is different with lisp? i get that it involves functions which require dynamic_jump. you deny that's what Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
I think of lost the thread of what we're discussing. You seem to have some point or question that I don't understand. Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> > Like I think that the Lisp version of if/else (if foo bar baz) could be implemented a stack machine or something else. Not necessarily involving a goto jumping to the specific statement. > are you trying to say [if/else] doesn't count as jumps in Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
@#7140 FYI, next time state the thread or i won't go find it. i don't know any way to easily get to HBL posts by post number. you say there's an interesting point but you don't say which point you think is interesting or why. next time you po curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/28
HB made an interesting point in post 13773. No reply from Elliot or Alan to that. Why? Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/28
> Like I think that the Lisp version of if/else (if foo bar baz) could be implemented a stack machine or something else. Not necessarily involving a goto jumping to the specific statement. are you trying to say it doesn't count as jumps in your min Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
@#7136 you're incoherent. i think you're assuming a ton of unstated premises. Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/28
>> Before, I only understood switch as an accelerated chain of if/else statements > but you aren't answering what you thought if/else chains are, so that's kinda meaningless. While I agree that if/else can be thought of in terms of goto, I general Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> so what? People will want the idea of mental illness to be taken seriously by society. Not like the right to believe you are Jesus, which is not taken seriously. If "mental illness" is a fraud the government should recognize it as a fraud. Thi Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/28
>> Why is it incoherent? > there's no coherent design philosophy to it. > you can't prove a negative. there's no reason it's coherent. > switch as a concept which writes an if/else chain more cleanly is fine. C sort of implemented that and sort of Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> Why is it incoherent? there's no coherent design philosophy to it. you can't prove a negative. there's no reason it's coherent. switch as a concept which writes an if/else chain more cleanly is fine. C sort of implemented that and sort of d Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> Before, I only understood switch as an accelerated chain of if/else statements but you aren't answering what you thought if/else chains are, so that's kinda meaningless. look: if x==3 { foo() } else if x==17 { bar() } else { baz() } Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> switch is an incoherent medium between high-level structured programming and do-it-yourself assembly. Why is it incoherent? Because it is more than just a chain of if/else? If switch was limited to being equivalent to a chain of if/else statemen Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
>>> who cares? >> I do! > because? no idea. EMAXLEVELOFINTROSPECTIONEXCEEDED Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> i still don't get how you thought switch worked. > wouldn't it just be something like: > [snip translation of switch into gotos] That translation looks right, but it's not how I thought of switch. Before, I only understood switch as an accelera Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> I do! because? > How are they a mess? switch is an incoherent medium between high-level structured programming and do-it-yourself assembly. there's no good design reason to make it work how it does. and low and behold if you do things like Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> the article is about how the implementation details are a mess in C How are they a mess? And what do you mean about implementation details? I think of it as just a translation issue from some C programs containing switch to other C programs not c Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> Is the problem on this issue that human problems are called "mental illness" or that the government is involved? both > Many people with "mental illness" want to believe they have a "mental illness". Don't they have the right to? sure. peop Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/28
talking to alan about wording curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/28
Is the problem on this issue that human problems are called "mental illness" or that the government is involved? Many people with "mental illness" want to believe they have a "mental illness". Don't they have the right to? They will want to go to d Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/28
i still don't get how you thought switch worked. wouldn't it just be something like: conditional_jump(x==1, label_1) conditional_jump(x==2, label_2) conditional_jump(x==3,, label_3) conditional_jump(x==4, label_4) default_code() jump(label_ Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
the switch statement you write *IS* an (arguably) cleaner version of the if/else chain. the article is about how the implementation details are a mess in C, how some *other* switch statements are different than if/else chains, and how compilers wil Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> IF ELSE is GOTO too (conditional jump. same thing) Yes. I just didn't get how it worked with switch and case. For instance, I always found Duff's Device (below) confusing before. /* The switch statement used in Duff's device */ int t Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> you know that FOR and WHILE are also structured GOTOs? (conceptually). Yes. > (and BREAK is a GOTO to jump to just after the end) Yes. Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> but i can't tell if you mean *conceptually* or *implementation details*. i knew SWITCH = GOTO conceptually, but i didn't know C implementation details. I don't know if this answers your question, but I was thinking on the level of C statements an Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
> what did you think [the C switch statement] was? Before reading that article, my understanding of the C switch statement was limited to its use as an accelerated chain of if/else statements that jumped directly to the intended case. (I also knew Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
Kate wrote: > I think you sometimes make a related mistake with words. You drop the context (the vivid concretes wrt what's going on) and try to look a word in a sterile contextless environment. > This most recently happened when you didn't realize Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
what did you think it was? but i can't tell if you mean *conceptually* or *implementation details*. i knew SWITCH = GOTO conceptually, but i didn't know C implementation details. the concepts are what's interesting. you know that FOR and WHIL curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
http://blog.robertelder.org/switch-statements-statement-expressions/ TIL a C switch statement is just a computed goto (i.e. a goto that jumps to a statement that is not necessarily determined at compile-time). The corresponding case statements are Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
psychiatry vs liberty curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/28
https://www.google.com/amp/globalnews.ca/news/3029436/donald-trump-campaign-facebook-dark-posts-voter-suppression-reports/amp/ Trump campaign using facebook ethnicity targeting feature to show ads of Hillary talking about "super predators" to black Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/28
cuz i've read what fair use is. i also read HBL's policies. you aren't giving any kind of argument or demonstrating any knowledge of the matter. lame. Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/28
Yes, you own what you write. But the little snippets of others you do not own and are not public. Why do you think it counts as fair use? Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/28
> Aren't you going to get in trouble for quoting from a private forum, pay only access here? no. as always, i'm allowed to quote myself, and fair use (little snippets) of others. i own what i write. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/28
Oists seem really intent on making really clearly infallibilist statements, but also saying they are fallibilists curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/28
Aren't you going to get in trouble for quoting from a private forum, pay only access here? Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/28
more Popper misunderstandings curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/28
I think I am 100% sure now.. ff Immigration 2016/10/28
#7103 I am 5% sure you are the banned member of curi ff Immigration 2016/10/28
> They are brain tumors or Alzheimer’s. Those are physical illnesses. If they affect brain functioning, won't they reveal themselves as "mental illness"? Meaning, won't people's behaviour not be fully rational as they are not able to process info Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/28
People on HBL complained over having to pay for your essay? Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/28
I'm curious how would Ayn Rand have been allowed in the US under limited immigration? She had family in the US and a degree which wasn't useful to get her a job in the US. Then she married an American in order to stay. Ayn Rand fiercely defended what Anonymous Immigration 2016/10/28
#7087 >I wonder what other things I do abstractly that would be more easily done concretely and simply. I think you sometimes make a related mistake with words. You drop the context (the vivid concretes wrt what's going on) and try to look a wor Kate Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/27
woty is a social justice warrior now who blocked me on twitter. i'm not going to discuss their personal histories. one of the issues is with free travel in the EU, once one EU country lets some Syrian in, he can go to any EU country. the EU h Anonymous Hillary Clinton is a Far Left Criminal 2016/10/27
> The US already limits immigration harshly, so I don't know what the problem is. you seem unfamiliar with the situation. my suggestion is you read Front Page Magazine, Ann Coulter and Breitbart regularly for a few years. just today the firs curi Immigration 2016/10/27
:( curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/27
Twitter to Cut 9% of Workforce as Revenue Growth Slows http://www.wsj.com/articles/twitter-to-cut-workforce-as-revenue-growth-slows-1477566772 FF Twitter Pulls "Make Detroit Great Again" Pro-Trump Video Ad for "Hate, sensitive topics, and violence" 2016/10/27
It seems old TCS people like DSJ and Woty are voting Clinton and think Trump is Toohey. What made them come so far apart from you and see things so differently when they had the same influences? Puzzling. I agree that open immigration in the terms Anonymous Hillary Clinton is a Far Left Criminal 2016/10/27
The US already limits immigration harshly, so I don't know what the problem is. Who is being allowed in freely? Isn't your problem people sneaking into the country versus laws not being strict enough? Do you believe in "birth right" as welfare is c Anonymous Immigration 2016/10/27
Is Trump going to start a civil war if he loses? Will you join his army? FF Hillary Clinton is a Far Left Criminal 2016/10/27
replying to a confused guy curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
Szasz answered these arguments already. alan should put his posts here The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
Szasz is opposed to obscuring moral and legal issues with pseudo-medical babble. alan should put his posts here The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
> (I don't know if I did that in this exact case, but it would be typical of me.) In this exact case of the Two Trains puzzle, that is. Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/26
That's right. (I don't know if I did that in this exact case, but it would be typical of me.) Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/26
lol. it takes the trains 1 hr to crash. so the fly goes 75km. you calculated a series of fly trips. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/26
I think I often end up doing things the hard way. I am reminded me of the [Two Trains Puzzle](http://mathworld.wolfram.com/TwoTrainsPuzzle.html) > Two trains are on the same track a distance 100 km apart heading towards one another, each at a speed Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/26
Thanks for the explanation. I see what you mean. Visualizing the numbers as being on the number line is really helpful here! And you're exactly right: I was thinking of the numbers as an abstract group without looking at all of their properties tha Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/26
i actually had in mind the way of thinking about the problem, not the summing. drawing it on the number line may clarify it. you approach the numbers 1-500 as an abstract group where you struggle to know properties like that 250 of them are even Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/26
Clarifying Popper (not a skeptic!) curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
> looks to me like you're ready to move on without learning anything besides maybe memorizing this particular trick. Suggestions on other things I might like to learn from that trick? Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/26
I was thinking about averages a bit more and remembered something called the [geometric mean](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometric_mean) of a sequence of numbers. The geometric mean of a,b,c,d,e is the number x such that x*x*x*x*x = a*b*c*d*e. This Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/26
> The sum of the numbers from -100 to 200 is 100*(200--100+1) because the average is 100 and there are (200--100+1) numbers. This works out to 100*(301) = 30100. Oops, I don't know why I thought the average was 100. It's (200+-100)/2 = 100/2 = 50. Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/26
> heh @ stray italics from multiplication. Good blog design decision to leave the *'s in. I think you did it for a separate reason (maybe so copying and pasting to plain text wouldn't lose information) but it works out better for math too. Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/26
> > you can do it in your head cuz to sum from 1 to 249 you know you have 249 numbers with an average of (249+1)/2 so it's (249*250)/2 > Another nice thing about thinking about it this way is that it lets you sum other consecutive sequences of numb Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/26
Counting & Probability problem 2.10 Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/26
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> What's too complicated? My program or my text solution? text solution. the program is a simple brute force. you can't tell that? heh @ stray italics from multiplication. > That's a nice way to do it looks to me like you're ready to move Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/26
> i think you should introspect about your mistakes more. you pretty much have no idea why you made a mistake and why you failed to figure it out on your own. and even when prompted to consider it, you basically don't seem to know or care. Good tip Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/26
Counting & Probability problem 2.10 Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/26
i think you should introspect about your mistakes more. you pretty much have no idea why you made a mistake and why you failed to figure it out on your own. and even when prompted to consider it, you basically don't seem to know or care. i think yo Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/26
Counting & Probability problem 2.10 Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/26
Counting & Probability problem 2.9 Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/26
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> I misunderstood this problem at first why? Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/26
Counting & Probability problem 2.10 Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/26
Counting & Probability problem 2.10 Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/26
Counting & Probability problem 2.9 Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/26
How many 3-digit numbers have exactly one zero? Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/26
> you aren't spending much time on FI and wrote this thing b/c you were *interested* and pursuing philosophical interests is important. I wasn't particularly interested in learning when I started writing the HBL post. I was just interested in corr Alisa The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
> I still don't get what you think I would benefit from spending my time on more than FI. you aren't spending much time on FI and wrote this thing b/c you were *interested* and pursuing philosophical interests is important. Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
> none of those are systems of ideas. Ok. > none of those are concrete. Ok. I still don't get what you think I would benefit from spending my time on more than FI. Alisa The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
> you shouldn't self-sabotage by making excuses not to post your own content after you write it. I agree about this. Although I can sort of make some bs excuses about why I didn't post it on my own initiative, I'm not making excuses for that going Alisa The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
> And do you really think time on HBL is better spent than time catching up on FI? this is a straw man. i was clear about what i thought last time you brought this up: you shouldn't self-sabotage by making excuses not to post your own content after Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
none of those are systems of ideas. none of those are concrete. Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
> i don't think you have good, relevant points of comparison. you seem to be ignoring relevance when you just speak of "a ton of things" and give no examples. Examples of things that are worse than FI: - being vague - wilful blindness, purposef Alisa The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
remap caps-lock to both control AND escape! Alisa Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/26
i don't think you have good, relevant points of comparison. you seem to be ignoring relevance when you just speak of "a ton of things" and give no examples. Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
> > I meant "keep recommending" as in "have been repeatedly recommending". > oh. i didn't read it that way b/c i don't recall doing that. i thought i made one recommendation then discussed some sub-points. Ah, I see what you mean. So I was wron Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
> > How would learning about other stuff help me learn how good FI is unless the other stuff is plausibly better than FI? I don't see HBL as a candidate for that. > if you know about some things that are worse than FI it gives you a point of compar Alisa The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
> I meant "keep recommending" as in "have been repeatedly recommending". oh. i didn't read it that way b/c i don't recall doing that. i thought i made one recommendation then discussed some sub-points. Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
> How would learning about other stuff help me learn how good FI is unless the other stuff is plausibly better than FI? I don't see HBL as a candidate for that. if you know about some things that are worse than FI it gives you a point of comparison Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
>> You keep recommending non-FI stuff, but > you were talking about multiple recommendations (due to the meaning of "keep"). I meant "keep recommending" as in "have been repeatedly recommending". I didn't see you making multiple different recom Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
>>>> - if you don't know other perspectives, you have no idea if FI is better or not. >>> I agree that finding things better than FI would be a good reason to be familiar with non-FI stuff. >> that's not what that sentence says. read it again. Alisa The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
> What other recommendation? when you wrote: > You keep recommending non-FI stuff, but you were talking about multiple recommendations (due to the meaning of "keep"). Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
> I just did. My reply still looks good to me. I stand by it. your reply is a non sequitur. the sentence says (conditionally) that you don't know how good FI is. you then start talking about the value finding better things. you ignored the pr Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
>> You keep recommending non-FI stuff, but I don't think non-FI stuff is my bottleneck ATM. > i recommended *here* that you don't **shut down interests** you actually were interested in enough to write about!! I posted here. And I agree I shoul Alissa The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
>>> - if you don't know other perspectives, you have no idea if FI is better or not. >> I agree that finding things better than FI would be a good reason to be familiar with non-FI stuff. > that's not what that sentence says. read it again. Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
> You keep recommending non-FI stuff, but I don't think non-FI stuff is my bottleneck ATM. i recommended *here* that you don't **shut down interests** you actually were interested in enough to write about!! you are destroying your own philosophy Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
> in this context, "institutionalize" means put someone in a "mental hospital" or other psychiatric institution and does not include imprisoning them in a regular prison at all. Ah. If I thought that's what HB meant, then I would have argued with Alisa The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
> I agree that finding things better than FI would be a good reason to be familiar with non-FI stuff. that's not what that sentence says. read it again. > So? so information about the world has value and relevance. > I'm already surrounded Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
>> - b/c the world matters and you live in it and deal with people > So? Just to expand on this - my question here is really, why wouldn't I just start on FI list if I wanted to learn more about this? You keep recommending non-FI stuff, but Alisa The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
in this context, "institutionalize" means put someone in a "mental hospital" or other psychiatric institution and does not include imprisoning them in a regular prison at all. Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
> Why? - if you don't know other perspectives, you have no idea if FI is better or not. I agree that finding things better than FI would be a good reason to be familiar with non-FI stuff. However, I don't think I'm going to find something bette Alisa The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
>> I don't think there's a big conflict between HB and Szasz about what to do with people who pose an objective threat. > there is a big conflict b/c HB wants many of them put in "mental hospitals" and e.g. forcibly drugged, and szasz doesn't. Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
> > it's important to be familiar with other perspectives besides FI. > Why? - if you don't know other perspectives, you have no idea if FI is better or not. this may be one of the reasons for your supposed "laziness" re learning FI – your ign Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
> I don't think there's a big conflict between HB and Szasz about what to do with people who pose an objective threat. there is a big conflict b/c HB wants many of them put in "mental hospitals" and e.g. forcibly drugged, and szasz doesn't. Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
> it's important to be familiar with other perspectives besides FI. Why? > you're basically saying you'll do it [post on HBL] later, No. I expect I may never catch up at FI. > why not do this way too? Irrationality, laziness, lack of Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
The Myth of Mental illness Alisa The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
> No. Regarding those two questions, the reason is that the crit I see on FI is way higher quality than what I see on HBL. It's not like I'm caught up on FI and looking for more. I haven't come close to exhausting my highest-quality resource. it's Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
>> That's a more precise way to put it. > > it's not more precise. it's correct instead of incorrect. I guess you could say that. I was speaking more broadly, more vaguely. > > I'm not interested in what the HBL letter ppl would say. > why Alisa The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
> That's a more precise way to put it. it's not more precise. it's correct instead of incorrect. > I'm not interested in what the HBL letter ppl would say. why? do you not want to understand the world? do you not think Objectivism matters? an Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
> you should post your thoughts to expose them to criticism! I agree I should have posted it SOMEWHERE. I posted it here, and got crit. I'm not interested in what the HBL letter ppl would say. > he's in favor of *trials and criminal justice* fo Alisa The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
post it curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
The Myth of Mental illness Alisa The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
defending szasz from HB curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/26
It's not clear what exactly you're criticizing him for. Not believing in fairies and hobgoblins? Not being willing to entertain "proofs" that these magical creatures exist? Anonymous Den Beste Criticism 2016/10/26
I considered saying the US should focus on immigration from Western countries. But Western Europe is further gone than us. It's more leftist and anti-liberal. Immigrants from Israel, Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong and Singapore may be better than im curi Immigration 2016/10/25
CAIR SAYS TALKING ABOUT ISLAMIC TERROR IS ISLAMOPHOBIC Anonymous Donald Trump is a Moderate 2016/10/25
The left literally thinks saying, "All lives matter." is racist. Anonymous Donald Trump is a Moderate 2016/10/25
> You are not racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic!! So you are not in that basket. Hillary would call me a racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobe. I support Trump building the wall, which Hillary considers racist against Mexicans and xenophobi curi Donald Trump is a Moderate 2016/10/25
I just watched Justin's video.. so you are not a standard Redneck who leaves in parents basement either. FF Donald Trump is a Moderate 2016/10/25
> There's no way I'm in the half of Trump supporters that Hillary likes better. I'm confident I'm in the top 1% of most-hated-by-Hillary Trump supporters. You are not racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic!! So you are not in that basket. FF Donald Trump is a Moderate 2016/10/25
LOCK HER UP! A Mysterious J Hillary Clinton is a Far Left Criminal 2016/10/25
>A few years ago I learned that knowledge evolves by guesses and criticism, instead of being justified true belief. I think this was a big deal in epistemology terms; a huge difference. Why do you think you learned that? And if you did learn it Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/25
>Examples of problems I can do a lot about but don't care enough about: > - Making money differently than I do today > - Changing how my personal relationships work > - Getting better / quicker at reading books and >But there's nothing Kate The Greek Achievement 2016/10/25
Despair curi The Greek Achievement 2016/10/25
#6902 > another thing that's important is pursuing *problems* rather than *discussions*. that means e.g. you would keep posting about a topic even if no one replied b/c you're still trying to figure out the solution to a problem you care about. I' PAS The Greek Achievement 2016/10/25
> Point being, for such a huge shift in epistemology, the results in terms of value were kinda...meh. You learned a *summary* of a major point of epistemology. That's superficial. Had you learned more epistemology, you would have learned why this i curi The Greek Achievement 2016/10/25
Value of learning epistemology PAS The Greek Achievement 2016/10/25
myth of mental illness curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/25
It's not like the fuckers couldn't use more ad revenue: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-25/twitter-said-to-plan-hundreds-more-job-cuts-as-soon-as-this-week Anonymous Twitter Pulls "Make Detroit Great Again" Pro-Trump Video Ad for "Hate, sensitive topics, and violence" 2016/10/24
#6938 >Why is this is better than being a homeless drug addict? Some reasons: - Sleeping in the rain sucks. - No safe place to store stuff sucks. - No electricity to charge up computers sucks. - Coming down off a drug high sucks. > It seem PAS The Greek Achievement 2016/10/24
[Rigging the Election – Video III: Creamer Confirms Hillary Clinton Was PERSONALLY Involved](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEQvsK5w-jY) curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/24
Propagandists hijack cues. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/24
Examples of misunderstood thinkers. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/24
> I don't know what that means. Mail it to who? He wants the article in the newsletter? FF Donald Trump is a Moderate 2016/10/24
On June 3, 2012, patio11 wrote in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4060154 : > On June 3, 2012, fleitz wrote in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4060229 : >> It's possible to build successful businesses by being able to put cheese, tomat Anonymous Let's Freewrite 2016/10/23
On February 9, 2014, tptacek wrote in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7260087 : > startups are also probably rejecting a lot of engineering candidates that would perform as well or better than anyone on their existing team, because tech indust Anonymous Let's Freewrite 2016/10/23
Good points @ patreon vs selling software. Alisa Let's Freewrite 2016/10/23
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11017034 Interesting HN comment about a system for making sure that train drivers are awake and not incapacitated. Alisa Let's Freewrite 2016/10/23
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11017034 Anonymous Let's Freewrite 2016/10/23
a reply about Popper's influence and good ideas curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/23
I don't know what that means. Mail it to who? curi Donald Trump is a Moderate 2016/10/23
Get it in the mail Jack carney Donald Trump is a Moderate 2016/10/23
There's no way I'm in the half of Trump supporters that Hillary likes better. I'm confident I'm in the top 1% of most-hated-by-Hillary Trump supporters. I've updated the post because Trump just came out with some new GREAT POLICY PROPOSALS: http curi Donald Trump is a Moderate 2016/10/22
> What has the adult done wrong? the moocher living on welfare – draining wealth from strangers who don't want to support him – who is grossly violating Objectivism? what has he done wrong? Read *Atlas Shrugged*! Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/22
>> An adult living on welfare could be learning and accomplishing things, yet you wouldn't call their life moral and productive. >> >> Why is it different for children? > You're trying to compare someone who has *done something wrong* to a child wh Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/22
> Hillary called half of Trump voters deplorables who she considers irredeemable. That's around 25% of Americans, including me! 😩 You might be in the other 50% of DJT supporters who are not deplorable. FF Donald Trump is a Moderate 2016/10/22
Ayn Rand opposed third parties. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/21
>> How is "Reminds me of" better [than "makes me think of"]? > i don't think people consider being reminded to be made to do anything. I don't think people consider "makes me think of" to involve being made to do something either. > causing a Anonymous Let's Freewrite 2016/10/21
> How do you get small people to adopt it if you're charging? communication, free trials, testimonials, a marketing video, documentation, ads, among many other options. yes you charge for licenses. redhat makes money with open source. apple and Anonymous Let's Freewrite 2016/10/21
> How is "Reminds me of" better? i don't think people consider being reminded to be made to do anything. causing and making are different things. a reminder has a causal relationship in you remembering something, but does not make you (you coul Anonymous Let's Freewrite 2016/10/21
> IMO auto-refresh (polling) and auto-fill form fields should both be handled by your browser (including extensions). Makes sense. I can do that. Alisa Let's Freewrite 2016/10/21
>> [makes me think of...] > > "Reminds me of..." How is "Reminds me of" better? Both ways of phrasing it assert that that one event sort of causes another event (here each "event" is me thinking of an idea). Alisa Let's Freewrite 2016/10/21
IMO auto-refresh (polling) and auto-fill form fields should both be handled by your browser (including extensions). Anonymous Let's Freewrite 2016/10/21
> why? there are lots of developer tool companies. it's a common thing to sell. it has value to many businesses that make money and are in a position to pay for it. I think one of the appeals is that it's open source. How do you sell it? Some kind Alisa Let's Freewrite 2016/10/21
It would be cool if the blog would remember my author name with a cookie. Maybe there could be a "remember me" checkbox for this. It would also be nice if the blog would auto-refresh when new comments are posted. Both of those suggestions would Alisa Let's Freewrite 2016/10/21
> It's not clear to me how that would work in his case. why? there are lots of developer tool companies. it's a common thing to sell. it has value to many businesses that make money and are in a position to pay for it. Anonymous Let's Freewrite 2016/10/21
>> maybe [Patreon] also made it easier for this guy to get recurring funding or his dev work. > >easier than what? > > there are established, effective ways to make money doing software development, such as charging money for software. i recommend Alisa Let's Freewrite 2016/10/21
> I figured someone would make that comment, but I wasn't sure of a better way to say it. "Reminds me of..." Anonymous Let's Freewrite 2016/10/21
> maybe [Patreon] also made it easier for this guy to get recurring funding or his dev work. easier than what? there are established, effective ways to make money doing software development, such as charging money for software. i recommend them. Anonymous Let's Freewrite 2016/10/21
>> Makes me > > makes? I figured someone would make that comment, but I wasn't sure of a better way to say it. Anonymous Let's Freewrite 2016/10/21
https://www.patreon.com/evanyou > "GOALS $6,000 per month - reached! I will be dedicated to work on Vue.js fulltime if this goal is met." This guy gets paid almost $10k/month in recurring donations through Patreon to develop the vue.js front-en Alisa Let's Freewrite 2016/10/21
> Makes me makes? Anonymous Let's Freewrite 2016/10/21
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2016/10/19/i-tried-to-reach-bill-murray-for-weeks-heres-what-happened-when-he-finally-called-me-back/?tid=a_inl > “I find that if you’re put in a box, you have to find something that Alisa Let's Freewrite 2016/10/21
#6966 you're so biased you're trying to justify a silencing that not even Twitter will uphold. Twitter has hired a team that, while incoherent and disorganized, also hassles rightwingers way more. Anonymous Twitter Pulls "Make Detroit Great Again" Pro-Trump Video Ad for "Hate, sensitive topics, and violence" 2016/10/21
Fix the world with philosophical education, not a protest vote. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/21
Its a loss for them. They won't make money. FF Twitter Pulls "Make Detroit Great Again" Pro-Trump Video Ad for "Hate, sensitive topics, and violence" 2016/10/20
i need to clarify this, too. >>to some approximation, an idea may not consult the rest of your mind and can do stuff independently. but this is not 100% accurate, it is connected with other ideas and background knowledge and stuff. >what implica Kate Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/20
This tray is amazing. Much larger than the other ones. Holds plenty of plates/cups/food/condiments. Even one large hot bowl, plus a drink, can be awkward to carry with no tray. add a sauce and a side dish and you're taking two trips to carry stuff. un curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/20
> I look forward to a Human Action written by an Objectivist It already exists. Capitalism: A Treatise on Economics by George Reisman. (Free PDF.) Reisman got his PhD under Mises and was a student of Rand. He and his wife are former ARI board membe curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/20
>how is it kinda confusing and being misused? correction: how am i kinda confused and how's the force idea being misused? Kate Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/20
You can mix and match ideas. One guy can be a Buffy fan and dislike Daredevil. Another guy is a Buffy fan and likes Daredevil. Both are common. How is this possible? Because the Buffy opinion and the Daredevil opinion are separate things. curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/20
>to some approximation, an idea may not consult the rest of your mind and can do stuff independently. but this is not 100% accurate, it is connected with other ideas and background knowledge and stuff. what implication does this have on a person, t Kate Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/20
> An adult living on welfare could be learning and accomplishing things, yet you wouldn't call their life moral and productive. > > Why is it different for children? You're trying to compare someone who has *done something wrong* to a child who h Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/20
> children, in a proper life, are productive. they learn things. they accomplish. their parents help them with this. the fact they aren't selling goods/services doesn't mean they aren't living a moral, productive life. An adult living on welfare co Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/20
Ideas Kate Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/20
It could have been the sentence: "Democrats have destroyed great cities like Detroit." Anonymous Twitter Pulls "Make Detroit Great Again" Pro-Trump Video Ad for "Hate, sensitive topics, and violence" 2016/10/20
HB's altruism and value answer curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/20
reply to guy saying professional philosophers are smarter curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/20
i could add also a button for emailing posts. should i? curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/19
social sharing curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/19
question i asked HB curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/19
> So to me this suggests there's an order and organization to learning. organization and structure and order matter, but that does not mean there is *one* *single* correct or optimal one-size-fits-all order, structure or organization. Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/19
#6937 what are you doing here? write a *short* answer to that. then ask a question about some part of the answer. then write a *short* answer to that. try to get stuff right. expose it to criticism. ask questions when you get stuck and don't kno Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/19
> You answer like you know what you're talking about, yet you are being criticized as one of the people who has been around for years and hasn't put any genuine effort in learning. wow, hold on. disagree. i did **not** say no "genuine effort" from curi The Greek Achievement 2016/10/19
> What background knowledge is needed to understand the theory of jump to universality? e.g. understanding universality. lots of epistemology stuff is relevant too. Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/19
> I don't know why you are speaking of force. i think it's cuz Oism says you can't force a mind. and she remembers that, but is kinda confused and misusing it. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/19
> DD was talking about a theory, not an idea. He was talking about a set of ideas, a part of a person. a "theory" and an "idea" are the same thing. a "set of ideas" and an "idea" are the same thing. there's no real distinction. everything ppl Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/19
> i don't understand why it's not completely autonomous. even if someone's response to a particular detail is different than everyone else'e, wouldn't the autonomy of that idea still exist? > > like it's still the case that that particular idea doe Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/19
> Elliot, how can people improve on reading comprehension which seems a major problem for your followers? i don't know how you meant this but, to be clear, it's an even larger problem for other groups of people. i recommend people learn from my curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/19
> How can you control your ideas if they are autonomous entities (which can't be directly controlled)? Persuasion! Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/19
> How can a child live as an Objectivist while being dependent on their parents? Isn't a child always a Socialist in practice because they live from hand-outs? > > This is also why I don't understand the claim that TCS is compatible with the Capital curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/19
I’m concerned about rigging too (though I disagree about the Electoral College being bad). Check out this Project Veritas video: Rigging the Election – Video I: Clinton Campaign and DNC Incite Violence at Trump Rallies I’m not very concerned curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/19
here is the markdown links code: re = %r{(\s|^)\[(.+?)\]\((http.+?|www.+?)\)(\W|$)}i replace = "\\1<a href='\\3'>\\2</a>\\4" s = s.gsub(re, replace) i had a bug where it was missing the "|$" near the end, so it didn't work when there was curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/19
Ideas Kate Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/19
Elliot, how can people improve on reading comprehension which seems a major problem for your followers? Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/19
> How can you control your ideas if they are autonomous entities (which can't be directly controlled)? I don't think that by autonomous DD meant "with a mind of their own" or "can't be directly controlled." I think he meant that a theory doesn't Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/19
> i don't understand why it's not completely autonomous. even if someone's response to a particular detail is different than everyone else'e, wouldn't the autonomy of that idea still exist? Do you mean the autonomy of that theory? A theory is al Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/19
How can you control your ideas if they are autonomous entities (which can't be directly controlled)? Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/19
Ideas Kate Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/19
>> An idea is the smallest unit of coherent thought. > why did you say "coherent" thought, when some ideas are not coherent? why not just say the smallest unit of thought? It could be you and Elliot are using coherent differently. I imagined a coh Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/19
>you been around for a long time and have never done this stuff, but now you claim you're already doing it. yes, if you are referring to trying to pursue understanding re how to be good at thinking and what makes one bad at thinking and how to chan Kate Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/19
Reply to #6918 > But children in our society are much less free than adults, and trying to live as an Objectivist will lead children to major conflicts with authority. Overall, freedom is a crucial ingredient in learning, especially learning someth Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/19
Reply to #6916 >> Why did you explain other things in your own words and do not want to explain this one? > big, complicated, hard to talk about to ppl without background knowledge. What background knowledge is needed to understand the theory o Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/19
#6915 > it means they can have friends, get married, have a family, get jobs, not be poor, be reasonably respected in the community rather than be considered fools/failures, not be homeless drug addicts, etc > > but they don't have much interest Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/19
Reply to #6913 >> What beginning do you suggest? > > like you could wonder what knowledge is, what an idea is, what a problem is, how learning works, why people dislike criticism, whether capitalism is mean and how to analyze that, whatever. if y Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/19
Reply to #6911 > I think your learning needs to be centered around *your* problems, interests, priorities. So I don't think it would work for Elliot to create a curriculum for people to follow, like school. Is this what you have been doing, cent Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/19
So only main domain links can be used in the new feature. Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/19
No. It seems it's any bar after the .com. [Random link to test](http://qz.com) [Random link to test](http://qz.com/) Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/19
It seems it's the / bar in the end that breaks the link. [Chinese factories copy idea from kickstarter project, produce it and sell it cheap before the kickstarter is even over.](http://qz.com/771727/chinas-factories-in-shenzhen-can-copy-products-a Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/19
#6920 > Markdown links now work in blog comments. The format is: [link text](link url) Why didn't it work above? Tests: [Curi.us](curi.us) [Curi.us](http://curi.us/) [Curiosity Blog](http://curi.us/) Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/19
http://qz.com/771727/chinas-factories-in-shenzhen-can-copy-products-at-breakneck-speed-and-its-time-for-the-rest-of-the-world-to-get-over-it/ Linkable link for the above Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/19
What would Rearden do? Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/19
you been around for a long time and have never done this stuff, but now you claim you're already doing it. from what i cant tell you don't listen to me much and don't take the criticism seriously. and e.g. i talk about getting a coherent simple overal Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/18
>you have to figure out how to pursue something on your own initiative. i am pursuing things on my own initiative. however, i'm also open to suggestions on topics or projects i should consider spending time on. you suggested that i haven't paid muc Kate Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/18
you're bad at thinking. doesn't that lead to any questions you have, of your own? e.g. you could be trying to pursue understanding how to be good at thinking and what makes one bad at thinking and how to change. but you aren't. and now you may try it Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/18
i thought i suggested several times that you start with questions about the topic and trying to put together a coherent initial statement about philosophy of ideas (like what that is and isn't, what it's for, and how the FI view of it works). why are Anonymous Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/18
the things you bring up are a smaller burden than trimming quoting on FI and also fixing the attribution line at the top in Apple Mail which you often use. you could fix persistent authorship with a browser extension, apple script, or other code. curi The Greek Achievement 2016/10/18
http://fallibleideas.com/ideas >An idea is the smallest unit of coherent thought. why did you say "coherent" thought, when some ideas are not coherent? why not just say the smallest unit of thought? Kate Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/18
on FI, Elliot wrote: >i don't think you have the background knowledge to analyze the lyrics. i think it's best to drop it indefinitely. i recommend ... as I usually do and am ignored about ... that you focus on short, simple posts to get a coherent Kate Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/18
#6897 > BTW i think both of you (and others) would benefit from using curi blog comments somewhat more over FI. because it's easier to write quick, short comments. one of the main differences is in comments you quote lightly b/c the comment goes on a PAS The Greek Achievement 2016/10/18
It's tricky to name what's going on to people who don't understand the concepts involved, and because of irrational social rules governing discussion. curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/18
Added Markdown Links curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/18
I agree people dislike rational ideas themselves and have a question about goals curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/18
Sharing Objectivism with children is difficult because they lack freedom curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/18
ARI should have a discussion forum curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/18
> Why did you explain other things in your own words and do not want to explain this one? big, complicated, hard to talk about to ppl without background knowledge. > I do not think anyone who defends altruism would argue that you should never be Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/18
> What is a life successful by conventional standards? > Are you saying you used coercion and it worked to raise successful kids by conventional standards? > Do you perceive that there a difference between conventional standards and what FI/ TCS not PAS The Greek Achievement 2016/10/18
what about the concept of going deep with an idea. staying there for awhile. exploring it in detail. trying to step-by-step understand how to reach a conclusion and why it makes sense. thinking about how it connects up to other stuff. putting it in a Kate The Greek Achievement 2016/10/18
> What beginning do you suggest? like you could wonder what knowledge is, what an idea is, what a problem is, how learning works, why people dislike criticism, whether capitalism is mean and how to analyze that, whatever. if you wonder if capitalis Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/18
>I do not think anyone who defends altruism would argue that you should never benefit yourself. In most contexts, to be of benefit of others you have to exist and you have to benefit yourself first before you can help others. right, cuz altruism is Kate The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/18
I think your learning needs to be centered around *your* problems, interests, priorities. So I don't think it would work for Elliot to create a curriculum for people to follow, like school. but let's suppose u are interested in TCS (or ARR or Oism Kate The Greek Achievement 2016/10/18
> @kate the basics of anything. epistemology, tcs, ARR, capitalism, etc. you haven't gone through any of it in an organized way or in a way that starts at the beginning. you jump into the middle of stuff without a clear idea of what philosophy problem Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/18
It might be useful to provide the links for the forum threads where you posted for people who joined the forum and want to follow the discussion. Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/18
#6906 >> Can you explain this? > > Read BoI, like it says. Ask a question when you have something to say. Why did you explain other things in your own words and do not want to explain this one? >> Why do you say non-contradictory altruism w Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/18
#6890 > And having a life (and kids) that are successful by conventional standards, which TCS makes no bones about upending. What is a life successful by conventional standards? Are you saying you used coercion and it worked to raise success Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/18
> I thought the opposite was true. For example, artists often know the value of criticism for their work, but that doesn't mean they would accept criticism in their parenting or be open minded politically. That's not the opposite. I think you're ba Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/18
#6889 > Hypothetically, if one could develop non-contradictory altruism, I think the results would be so evil it’d be basically be pure death (via self-destruction) and not allow for any political system at all. Why do you say non-contradicto Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/17
#6893 > There is no in between due to the jump to universality explained in The Beginning of Infinity by David Deutsch. Can you explain this? Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/17
#6888 > And people commonly either appreciate or dislike criticism in general, rather than varying from issue to issue. I thought the opposite was true. For example, artists often know the value of criticism for their work, but that doesn't mean Anonymous The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/17
#6897 I get that but i think there's areas where you could get a lot of value but you avoid it. like you've never really focused on actually learning epistemology. i don't think you want to read the books and deal with dense material, but you could Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
One-line summary: The pneumonia example has a good point. I propose some refinement. > For instance, a medical researcher finds a case of pneumonia is cured by penicillin. The conclusion is not: “At least one case of pneumonia is cured by penicil curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/17
'No warnings' is false. PAS The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
yes i know i've made plenty of similar mistakes. regarding the basics, can you give me some examples of what basic topics you have in mind? Kate The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
RE: you should learn philosophy of ideas now PAS The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
#6892 >> which TCS makes no bones about upending > this is misleading. learn one thing at a time. upend only what you want to upend, if you decide it's a good idea. (if you don't trust your judgement, then proceed with as much extra caution as you w PAS The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
and, Kate, you haven't paid much attention to getting the basics right. like asking lots of questions about them until you can write your own basic summaries of main overall points (like whether and why you should learn what) that people think are tru Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
> you not only don't agree, but you don't pursue the issue to figure it out. and you seem *satisfied* about your choice to not pursue the issue. Kate, you know you do plenty of similar stuff? refused to discuss some things, dropped some topics, etc Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
>Point is, if I already agreed that learning TCS would greatly improve my life, I'd do it. But I don't already agree. you not only don't agree, but you don't pursue the issue to figure it out. and you seem *satisfied* about your choice to not pursu Kate The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
One-line summary: Thinking work will replace grunt work, and I comment on AI. Manual labor will decline, but there’s unlimited opportunities for people to do knowledge work such as programming. Boring stuff gets automated but there’s no shortag curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/17
you should learn philosophy of ideas now Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
One-line summary: Logicians have bad goals, which may be behind some of the problems HB sees. I think logic is good, but the way many people think about logic should be reconsidered. And some of the problems come from bad goals and misunderstand curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/17
#6885 >> It being better for me to not exceed the scope of what I understand well is reality. > yes. and you like that particular fact of reality. does a part of you like that particular fact more than other facts of reality? Ya, of course. F PAS The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
One-line summary: Statism doesn’t logically follow from altruism. > E.g., if altruism were true, statism would be right politically. Do you think that’s actually correct? I’m not sure if it’s a serious example. I disagree with it. Alt curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/17
One-line summary: Make judgements to solve problems, update as useful. Don’t have arbitrary doubts but do watch out for new information or new situations. You don’t need a single answer to your question. Does a judgment require “regular updat curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/17
One-line summary: You should hypotheticalize your personal issues. You can gain information about your personal issues if you figure out the essentials, then write a hypothetical scenario of general interest involving the important issues. All pers curi The Harry Binswanger Letter Posts 2016/10/17
> rational (reality-focused) "rational" does not mean reality-focused. Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
>I like reality. all parts of reality? >It being better for me to not exceed the scope of what I understand well is reality. yes. and you like that particular fact of reality. does a part of you like that particular fact more than other facts Kate The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
I read a bunch of tweets about the hashtag "#ImGoingToMissObamaBecause". Exactly zero of them had to do with policy decisions. 100% fluff. curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/17
TCS PAS The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
> Not learning TCS isn't a crime. but it's bad. and not making an effort to find what you want online is bad too. Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
> praising TCS (and Oism and Elliot) is right because they are *good* in a world where there's not enough of that goodness. how can you praise something you do not understand? > it's a mistake to hate the good and want to tear it down. how is Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
PAS, like Rami, and more or less everyone else, doesn't engage in a sustained way with discussion about his FI participation. curi The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
>does praising TCS makes you feel better about yourself for not having understood it well enough? praising TCS (and Oism and Elliot) is right because they are *good* in a world where there's not enough of that goodness. it's a mistake to hate t Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
Elliot has criticized PAS in a post for not studying TCS. I couldn't find the post though. FF The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
> not only PAS hasn't learned TCS in years Not learning TCS isn't a crime. Elliot doesn't coerce anyone to learn. FF The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
> wasn't anonymous better than PAS in that he put the effort in finding the article without the need to ask for a link? elliot wrote that those who deserve help, help themselves. not only PAS hasn't learned TCS in years, he couldn't help himself find FF The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
wasn't anonymous better than PAS in that he put the effort in finding the article without the need to ask for a link? elliot wrote that those who deserve help, help themselves. not only PAS hasn't learned TCS in years, he couldn't help himself find an Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
> Rami must be very busy with his Vaporized business. no, if he cared about his business and about FI he'd ask questions relating to it on FI. he'd try to use FI to benefit his business. he doesn't care about philosophy thinking. he doesn't valu Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
> maybe i'm not, and don't want to be, a specialist in figuring out who is leonor by writing style. maybe i don't pay much attention to her. If not the writing style.. The info she wrote about her also revealed it was Leonor Gomes. She mentioned FF The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
> It was super-easy to recognize her text. maybe i'm not, and don't want to be, a specialist in figuring out who is leonor by writing style. maybe i don't pay much attention to her. > Why didn't you talk to her about getting un-banned first? Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
I thought she was un-banned and allowed again. I thought she solved the ban problem through Rami. Elliot was giving lengthy replies to her.. I was happy reading geniuses discuss. FF The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
> of course Leonor is banned. why would she be back? she did not solve the problems she causes. It was super-easy to recognize her text. Why didn't you talk to her about getting un-banned first? FF The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
of course Leonor is banned. why would she be back? she did not solve the problems she causes. > Elliot forgot about the ban the whole time?! no. she didn't share her name. --- #6866 god you're stupid and angry. PAS got a link because he curi The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
"felt like" is not like elliot. why didn't he share the link straight away? i didn't find it by googling. if there is a way to find it that way i do not know it. Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
> i just want to know. i don't understand why PAS deserves the help. he hasn't learned TCS in years either. he has made no effort to understand TCS and also disses it without understanding. i guess Elliot likes him for other reasons, and that's why he FF The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
i just want to know. i don't understand why PAS deserves the help. he hasn't learned TCS in years either. he has made no effort to understand TCS and also disses it without understanding. i guess Elliot likes him for other reasons, and that's why he h Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
> i want to know what is his reasoning for the different treatment. why did i have to look for it and why was PAS handed out the link? What will you do with his reasoning? He doesn't believe in equality! FF The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
> Leonor, leave and don't come back. So she wasn't un-banned? (I thought she was back again) Elliot forgot about the ban the whole time?! FF The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
> Why does that bother you? > Do you want everyone to have equal amount of help? i want to know what is his reasoning for the different treatment. why did i have to look for it and why was PAS handed out the link? Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
Leonor is Banned curi The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
>> so? many are happy. many succeed. > > they're not actually happy. they are fooling you and fooling themselves. succeed *at what*? by what standard are you measuring success? why do you think they are fooling me and themselves? the standard Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
> are you dissing TCS cuz it allows you to feel better about yourself for not having understood it well enough? oh, look who came back from the dead. you don't post in FI regularly anymore, do you? you need to be prompted by Elliot. he needs to pok Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
> why don't want to put the effort in finding a TCS article you want to read? > and did Elliot help you and not me? I had to find it myself. Why does that bother you? Do you want everyone to have equal amount of help? FF The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
> Do you have an actual link? I couldn't find it in the Wayback machine either. why don't want to put the effort in finding a TCS article you want to read? and did Elliot help you and not me? I had to find it myself. Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
PAS: http://web.archive.org/web/20030620082503/http://www.tcs.ac/Articles/DDIsTCSRevolutionary.html curi The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
>so? many are happy. many succeed. they're not actually happy. they are fooling you and fooling themselves. succeed *at what*? by what standard are you measuring success? Kate The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
>And I heeded the warnings. I have not tried to do TCS without learning enough of it to be successful. do you think a part of you sorta "likes" the fact that there are warnings about not doing the revolutionary thing when it comes to TCS and parent Kate The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
>nobody warned me against that. nobody told me "be a conventional parent while you learn this philosophy, you'll do less harm." doesn't it take a long time to actually understand TCS and epistemology? so then i don't understand how something like Kate The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
>what use is a philosophy that only you can practice? one reason it's useful is cuz others can LEARN it and use it to make their lives and their kid's lives better. or are you suggesting that is impossible? also, TCS is TRUE. how marvelous is th Kate The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
TCS Warnings PAS The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
> this is false, there's been a TCS list (where people can learn TCS) continuously to this day. it has been dead since 2003. so has the website. > TCS has only gotten EASIER to learn since 2003, not harder. because, as you mention below, *I* hav Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/17
I think I know who the anon is. (I will not break the anon rules to say who it is) Good to see that the person is back on FI. FF The Greek Achievement 2016/10/16
> isn't it a cop-out to say this? you can say this about any parenting ideas out there, because none can be practiced consistently. what should i say when it's the truth? TCS could be practiced, you just didn't learn how to. arguments that TCS is i curi The Greek Achievement 2016/10/16
> not seriously enough. isn't it a cop-out to say this? you can say this about any parenting ideas out there, because none can be practiced consistently. > correctly learning TCS would leave plenty of evidence online. lots of discussions, questi Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/16
> i was into TCS not seriously enough. correctly learning TCS would leave plenty of evidence online. lots of discussions, questions, essays, book reviews, etc, etc, etc you, like many others, made some limited effort that was inadequate to under curi The Greek Achievement 2016/10/16
> many things, such as the 5000 ways you coerced him what 5000 ways? i was into TCS and didn't actively force him to do anything, so how did i coerce him? > another issue is your own seriousness about wanting to learn. why would this matte Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/16
> my son didn't go to school and i didn't force him to do academics, so what could be to blame for his lack of interest in reading, maths and learning in general? many things, such as the 5000 ways you coerced him, and also he picked up many ideas Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/16
so? Anonymous Let's Freewrite 2016/10/16
Not a typo. Justifications don't have to be infallible to be justifications. curi Rejecting Gradations of Certainty 2016/10/16
> something that stood out was the white pillars like for parthenon are europoean invention so are the white sculptures. > school reading is one of the big blockers. puts ppl off reading and uses up their patience for reading scholarly works. Anonymous The Greek Achievement 2016/10/16
It's not clear what you consider exceptional. Anonymous Let's Freewrite 2016/10/16
Mistake in the above comment. It says fallibilism and justificationism are compatible. I think you meant to say they are NOT compatible. Anonymous Rejecting Gradations of Certainty 2016/10/16
I added a new blog feature. You can view all posts with comments on one page (may stall your browser. Find the link to it the More sidebar button, http://curi.us/more There are around 1,250,000 words right now. curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/15
i wrote this in reply: http://curi.us/1917-rejecting-gradations-of-certainty it covers some of the most general interest issues here. for specific replies to things you said, i posted those in the first comment at that post: http://curi.us/1917- curi Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/15
in reply to this comment from another thread: http://curi.us/comments/show/6836 (the above blog post also replies to it) > what it means to experience certainty bad anti-fallibilist concept, forget it > but I doubt it's possible (or worthw curi Rejecting Gradations of Certainty 2016/10/15
Gradations of Certainty Mike S. Fallible Ideas Unstructured Discussion 2016/10/15
https://www.facebook.com/groups/285247948157887/permalink/1444806748868662/ Elliot Temple September 9 Hi I'm a objectivist philosopher starting an email newsletter. I integrate Objectivism with Karl Popper's epistemology. I write articles like Anonymous Open Thread: Objectivism Discussion 2016/10/15
btw using Pages is NOT a solution i would have suggested. i didn't know it could show invisibles, and i didn't know it was an app you're already familiar with (so it's better than suggesting an app you've never used before). searching for yourself wor Anonymous help, my partner isn't ARR! a practical guide 2016/10/15
you could use a text editor with regular expressions, or with a reformat text feature, or make a script. regular expressions are more powerful and will let you clean up messier cases. correct that quote marks apply until the end of the line Anonymous help, my partner isn't ARR! a practical guide 2016/10/15
i figured out a way to remove line breaks. paste the text in pages, then do this. https://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/pages-finding-replacing-invisible-characters it's not hard, but i want to ask/verify 2 things. first, is there a bett Anonymous help, my partner isn't ARR! a practical guide 2016/10/15
> what if there are kids? aren't they going to be hurt and damaged in some way? yes, kids will be hurt by irrational parents who don't want to *learn*, read, discuss, find out what common preferences are and how to find them, etc Anonymous help, my partner isn't ARR! a practical guide 2016/10/15
>>so we're doomed? >yup. what if there are kids? aren't they going to be hurt and damaged in some way? some ppl stay together for the sake of the kids, which is bad. it'd be lying. it'd be a sacrifice. it'd be coercive. and these bad things Anonymous help, my partner isn't ARR! a practical guide 2016/10/15
> @line breaks - i haven't been in a situation before where i've noticed that i need to learn them. i'm in that situation now. i don't think it'll be a big burden to learn this. if you're who i think, it's come a bunch of times before in emails. Anonymous help, my partner isn't ARR! a practical guide 2016/10/15
the DD quote came out like crap. i don't want that to happen again. i think it's a big problem. @line breaks - i haven't been in a situation before where i've noticed that i need to learn them. i'm in that situation now. i don't think it'll be a b Anonymous help, my partner isn't ARR! a practical guide 2016/10/15
@#6824 why have you decided not to learn what line breaks are and how they work and how to edit them? do you find learning anything at all very hard, so this is a big burden? do you think your comment came out just fine? do you think line Anonymous help, my partner isn't ARR! a practical guide 2016/10/15
@#6825 no awareness of tone??!! you sound like an Ann Coulter critic. Anonymous help, my partner isn't ARR! a practical guide 2016/10/15
Anal Then Dump??!! FF help, my partner isn't ARR! a practical guide 2016/10/15
>if they don't wanna reason, how is stuff gonna work? it won't work cuz *reason* needs to be the basis for the whole relationship (if the relationship is truth-seeking / rational / ARR). the other stable option which could reliably work is having a Anonymous help, my partner isn't ARR! a practical guide 2016/10/15
>maybe you're getting 20 years by comparing an especially bad diet to an especially good one, where i was thinking more of a normal diet vs a good one which will be a smaller gain. yeah, i'd be interested in a comparison of a normal diet in a non-o Kate Questions 2016/10/15
> then write a blog, not a book? Rami has a blog. His domains expires often though. FF What To Read 2016/10/14
then write a blog, not a book? Anonymous What To Read 2016/10/14
> secondarily, Rami's ideas suck and he should learn good ideas before making books. The urge to share ideas might be too much. I get overexcited and give sermon to family and people who listen for 4-5 hours eventhough I haven't learned many FI FF What To Read 2016/10/14
secondarily, Rami's ideas suck and he should learn good ideas before making books. Anonymous What To Read 2016/10/14
rami should not release it, he has no idea what he's doing and hasn't spoken to me about it to check anything. he will probably violate my rights again. Elliot Temple What To Read 2016/10/14
Correction And follow = can follow FF What To Read 2016/10/14
> I'm not a co-author. So saying I'm a co-author is fraud. You can buy his 3rd book to see if it has your content. $14.99 You and Rami and follow the permission process well this time. It will release on May 1, 2017. It is available for pre FF What To Read 2016/10/14
I'm not a co-author. So saying I'm a co-author is fraud. I do have copyright over all of my essays. Copyright is basically automatic. Surprise fraud is fraud. You can't solve plagiarism problems by adding fraud on top of them. When dealing Elliot Temple What To Read 2016/10/14
> I didn't forget. I didn't coauthor it. Rami committed fraud. First you said he was plagiarizing by not giving you credits. I quoted the title to solve that problem. Now you are saying he committed a fraud. But you didn't get a copyright over FF What To Read 2016/10/14
I didn't forget. I didn't coauthor it. Rami committed fraud. I see your email in which Rami says that I'm a coauthor and also says that he hasn't told me yet. That's **fraud**. Elliot Temple What To Read 2016/10/14
> Rami didn't ask me first. Naming me as an author without asking is **fraud** and a **gross violation of my rights**. It was written long back. Maybe you forgot. I had sent you a thank you card on 21/07/15 at 11:12 PM by mistake You should FF What To Read 2016/10/14
Rami didn't ask me first. Naming me as an author without asking is **fraud** and a **gross violation of my rights**. Elliot Temple What To Read 2016/10/14
> where did you get the book which says Elliot is an author? Rami gave me the pdfs FF What To Read 2016/10/14
where did you get the book which says Elliot is an author? Anonymous What To Read 2016/10/14
> source on attributing Elliot as an author? What kind of source do you want? I have both his books. But I am not allowed to share them. FF What To Read 2016/10/14
source on attributing Elliot as an author? Anonymous What To Read 2016/10/14
Correction: In his Anger Management book he has added you as one of the authors. Anger: And how to change By Rami Rustom Elliot Temple FF What To Read 2016/10/14
> BTW he may actually be plagiarizing me, I'm not sure. I don't think he knows how to tell if he is or isn't.. In his Anger Management book he has mentioned fallible ideas many times. He might add more acknowledgements if you ask him. He has me FF What To Read 2016/10/14
I've already replied to Rami on FI list where he refused to discuss. BTW he may actually be plagiarizing me, I'm not sure. I don't think he knows how to tell if he is or isn't. --- self-help books sound unpleasant and like i won't learn anyth curi What To Read 2016/10/14
or you could read Rami's books. He has written two. FF What To Read 2016/10/14
You can read the books Donald Trump has written. He has written many books. You said to have read some of them. You can finish the remaining. or read and crit self-help motivational authors. ( most people go to them instead of you. You can g ff What To Read 2016/10/14
what about "The Technopriests" beautiful art some ideas seem similar to your own for instance: https://i.warosu.org/data/vr/img/0019/25/1410248010407.jpg overall not your philosophy i don't know of any fiction that is based on your values Anonymous What To Read 2016/10/13
> These four can be avoided by having a pseudonym or way to post anonymously. people often still feel bad about this stuff even if they are anonymous. Anonymous Questions 2016/10/12
>- don't want anyone to see their ignorance >- don't want anyone to see them learning (which is childish) >- don't want anyone to see them make mistakes >- don't want to receive criticism in public (or at all) These four can be avoided by having Anon69 Questions 2016/10/12
it's explained in a more complete way in FoR, which Aubrey de Grey has read and is, at least theoretically, familiar with. Anonymous Aubrey de Grey Discussion, 4 2016/10/12
> there's still no explanation of how grass in particular cures colds in particular. > >we're not just gonna test every plant for maybe curing every illness. I accept that the idea “eating grass will cure a cold” can be rejected on the ground Anon69 Aubrey de Grey Discussion, 4 2016/10/12
there's still no explanation of how grass in particular cures colds in particular. we're not just gonna test every plant for maybe curing every illness. curi Aubrey de Grey Discussion, 4 2016/10/11
> In FoR, DD uses the example idea that eating grass will cure a cold. Because there's no explanation of how grass does that, he explains that this empirically-scientifically testable idea isn't worth testing. It should be rejected just from the philo Anon69 Aubrey de Grey Discussion, 4 2016/10/11
some reasons people resist serious discussion are: - don't know what to say, don't have much in the way of ideas, questions, interests, etc - bad at touch typing, slow at reading, bad at spelling - don't want anyone to see their ignorance curi Questions 2016/10/11
>> Also of interest is that healthy-diet people claim > i think their list of claims is more discrediting than interesting. are you perhaps selectively focusing on the ones on their laundry list you find most plausible? i think that'd be the wrong me Anon69 Questions 2016/10/11
maybe you're getting 20 years by comparing an especially bad diet to an especially good one, where i was thinking more of a normal diet vs a good one which will be a smaller gain. > Also of interest is that healthy-diet people claim i think thei curi Questions 2016/10/10
Responding to the diet stuff below. Planning to respond to the other stuff separately / later. >When old people die of heart disease, they were often going to die of several other things in the next few years anyway. The problem is often general fr Anon69 Questions 2016/10/10
When old people die of heart disease, they were often going to die of several other things in the next few years anyway. The problem is often general frailty, decay, disrepair, etc, more than really being about heart disease. There's certain stuff curi Questions 2016/10/10
> and when you don't have enough nutrients in your diet you get e.g. scurvy or blindness. typical Western diets do not result in problems like that. whatever problems they are talking about – that they claim affect typical diets (most people) – ar Anon69 Questions 2016/10/10
got an immediate problem? you could start eating a healthy diet later if it's a good idea. starting 2 years later maybe makes little difference. and when you don't have enough nutrients in your diet you get e.g. scurvy or blindness. typical Western curi Questions 2016/10/10
> depends if you have a problem. I have a broad problem and some more specific problems. The general problem is about whether eating a healthy diet (whatever that means, which is controversial) will allow me to avoid various health problems, dis Anon69 Questions 2016/10/10
> those chickenshit republicans who ran away from Trump look dumb now. agreed. i'm glad i got on record that i wasn't one of them :) curi Forget The Trump Tape 2016/10/09
those chickenshit republicans who ran away from Trump look dumb now. Anonymous Forget The Trump Tape 2016/10/09
Trump, Politics, and Our Sexual Schizophrenia Anonymous Forget The Trump Tape 2016/10/09
> I get the impression that our knowledge about food’s effects on the human body are limited and not well understood. yes. and there's a lot of superstitions about food which are disguised as science. > Any ideas on this stuff? don't eat curi Questions 2016/10/09
I’m interested in learning whether I should eat certain foods for good health. I’m wondering if what I eat will affect my health for better or worse as I get older. I’ve heard claims that poor diet can lead to heart disease, diabetes, high bl Anon69 Questions 2016/10/09
FLASHBACK: HILLARY LAUGHED ON TAPE ABOUT RAPE OF 12-YEAR-OLD GIRL Anonymous Forget The Trump Tape 2016/10/09
you're also making sloppy attacks to dismiss me you're not interested in what i have to say you call me anti-reason you're not treating a disagreement seriously i do not want you to learn that reason has limited power i disagree with you over Anonymous Brandon Sanderson vs. Criticism 2016/10/09
this is so sad, the republicans are trying to give hillary the election b/c it turns out trump is the asshole everyone already knew he was (like a really mild and legal version of bill clinton – who hillary defended). McCain's statement trashing Anonymous Forget The Trump Tape 2016/10/08
https://twitter.com/curi42/status/784908568763830272 curi Forget The Trump Tape 2016/10/08
detail: > what i'm saying is that #1 always works if you do it well enough. trying to jump to the big picture: > Should you 1) focus on improving the new idea (e.g. quit-school) or 2) try to understand the idea(s) behind the emotional conflic curi Questions 2016/10/08
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>> The example was supposed to illustrate how he *thinks* he’s figured it out, but in fact he hasn’t. He was mistaken that quitting-school was trivially right like the walk-to-the-kitchen example. > well what's the point? There was no point as Anonymous Questions 2016/10/08
> imagine if someone have told him his stories were shitty what, you mean like more or less everyone told him for the many, many years he got rejection after rejection and couldn't get published? Sanderson is very good in limited areas. He has l curi Brandon Sanderson vs. Criticism 2016/10/08
maybe being anti-criticism and avoiding it helped him thrive as an author and become the best fantasy writer imagine if someone have told him his stories were shitty when he didn't have the capacity to not be negatively affected then you woul Anonymous Brandon Sanderson vs. Criticism 2016/10/08
Everyone attacking Trump from the right is pretending they were too stupid to know who they were supporting, because they are embarrassed now. curi Forget The Trump Tape 2016/10/08
Mike Pence attacked Trump too :( https://twitter.com/mike_pence/status/784799653547999234 My reply: Are you saying you had bad judgement about Trump, were totally surprised by this? Or you knew his character and wanted to be his VP anyway? curi Forget The Trump Tape 2016/10/08
> What are some of the main reasons people to hide their anger? some are: they think being angry is just how life is, it's normal and no big deal, and the thing to do is try to go on anyway. they think admitting their anger would admit weakne curi Questions 2016/10/08
> people fairly frequently vigorously deny being angry, then admit it a little later. Yeah, I’ve seen this happen. And I’ve done it myself in the past. What are some of the main reasons people to hide their anger? > i think it's (often) best Anon69 Questions 2016/10/08
how did you find my stuff if you don't mind me asking? curi Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/10/07
ok no problem. one of the main things is not to give up. people give up a lot. people usually deny they will give up, so they don't discuss it in advance. then when they do give up they don't want to talk anymore. one of the common problem curi Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/10/07
i'll drop the matter now. thanks for taking the criticism well. most people would not have. some context you may not know: people fairly frequently vigorously deny being angry, then admit it a little later. e.g. Tessa did this on FI list a few m curi Questions 2016/10/07
> are you interested in doing something about this underlying problem of lack of basic literacy skills? Yes. I'm new at this (thinking about philosophy, writing comments online). I was moving quickly and it introduced some mistakes. I'll try slowin Anonymous Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/10/07
> you responded to comments about you being bad at reading – without giving it much thought (you just said) – by changing the topic. I think you misread it. I'm not sure if this helps but here's a play-by-play of my thoughts: You said I had a r Anon69 Questions 2016/10/07
typo fixes curi Questions 2016/10/07
you responded to comments about you being bad at reading – without giving it much thought (you just said) – by changing the topic. to what? a loose reading is: i previously criticized you for posting anonymously. now you returned the "favor" curi Questions 2016/10/07
Hmm, I really didn't give much thought to what I quoted (echo'd). Aside from something like: let me just copy what was in the previous message to carry forward for context. I haven't developed much thinking on when and what to quote, so maybe I'm doin Anon69 Questions 2016/10/07
this is an echo from previous commentary on posting anonymously: > That was posted under "Anonymous" so I wouldn't have know you were careful not to say that. It would be helpful to use a consistent handle to avoid this problem. curi Questions 2016/10/07
> you echoed something back on purpose, where it doesn't fit quite right, to blame me and lash out I'm not following this. What did I echo back on purpose? What doesn't fit quite right? Anonymous Questions 2016/10/07
you echoed something back on purpose, where it doesn't fit quite right, to blame me and lash out. very blatant and stereotypical way to call me a hypocrite and to deflect cuz you were defensive. your ignorance and confusion about what's going on curi Questions 2016/10/07
>> That was posted under "Anonymous" so I wouldn't have know you were careful not to say that. It would be helpful to use a consistent handle to avoid this problem. > you are bitter and trying to attack. why should i try to help you if you're going Anonymous Questions 2016/10/07
> That was posted under "Anonymous" so I wouldn't have know you were careful not to say that. It would be helpful to use a consistent handle to avoid this problem. you are bitter and trying to attack. why should i try to help you if you're going to curi Questions 2016/10/07
> i was careful **not** to say that. i didn't say what to do. i talked about one thing that can work. you have a reading problem. i wrote: >> ONE way forward (not the only one) is to learn about the issues more thoroughly. That was posted under "A Anon69 Questions 2016/10/07
> You're saying not to focus on trying to figure out the unconscious ideas behind the emotion. Is that correct? i was careful **not** to say that. i didn't say what to do. i talked about one thing that can work. you have a reading problem. i wrote: curi Questions 2016/10/07
literacy curi Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/10/07
> Bill Gates ought to know about this. He should know about DDT and that it's a better solution than a malaria vaccine? I think he might. From https://www.ted.com/talks/bill_gates_unplugged/transcript?language=en: > So we've come up with a f Anonymous Ignorant Rich People vs. Capitalism 2016/10/07
> when ppl find something trivially right, e.g. walking to the kitchen, they aren't emotionally conflicted about it. Make sense. You can't be emotionally conflicted if there are no emotion-related ideas in conflict, as illustrated in the simple cas Anon69 Questions 2016/10/07
when ppl find something trivially right, e.g. walking to the kitchen, they aren't emotionally conflicted about it. so your concern: > And if it does't resolve the emotional conflict, what's going on there? doesn't make much sense and you have curi Questions 2016/10/07
> what if i want to go my kitchen but i'm emotionally conflicted about walking there. maybe i should crawl. maybe walking is bad. > doesn't happen. people don't get emotionally conflicted about the sort of stuff they are so sure of they take it for g Anonymous Questions 2016/10/07
> And if it does't resolve the emotional conflict, what's going on there? What can be done to resolve it and change the emotion? what if i want to go my kitchen but i'm emotionally conflicted about walking there. maybe i should crawl. maybe walking Anonymous Questions 2016/10/07
> this method is not focused on investigating emotions yet it can address emotional problems. And if it does't resolve the emotional conflict, what's going on there? What can be done to resolve it and change the emotion? > PS this would be easie Anon69 Questions 2016/10/07
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It'd be better to keep those as far away as possible from the ability to use violence. the government shouldn't do them. someone else should. take violence seriously! Anonymous Mistaken Government Violence 2016/10/07
What about all the non-violent things the government does? Anonymous Mistaken Government Violence 2016/10/07
i think you need to use examples. i'll give one but you need to learn to do this yourself to understand much stuff you read. Donald is a college student. he reads a book and some TCS stuff and decides school is bad. he wants to quit school. but Anonymous Questions 2016/10/07
>>> if you understood the goodness thoroughly – and it was thoroughly good – then you wouldn't feel bad about it. >>> so a good way to address this kind of critical questioning is generally to learn the issue better. >> What does it mean to *th Anonymous Questions 2016/10/07
> What does it mean to *thoroughly* understand the goodness of an idea? know more good stuff about it and more solutions to objections/problems/criticism/etc Anonymous Questions 2016/10/06
oops, I messed up the quoting. Should be: >> Guessing this question leads to conjectures about the ideas behind the emotion. > one of the things behind the emotion is ignorance. > if you understood the goodness thoroughly – and it was thoroughl Anonymous Questions 2016/10/06
> this is an appeal to readers regardless of *their* beliefs, not an indication of the author's beliefs. Ok, makes sense. >> Guessing this question leads to conjectures about the ideas behind the emotion. one of the things behind the emotion is Anonymous Questions 2016/10/06
> He said "In any case, nature or nurture, there is no reason for pessimism". this is an appeal to readers regardless of *their* beliefs, not an indication of the author's beliefs. Elliot has written a variety of stuff on the side of nurture. Anonymous Questions 2016/10/06
> it's you who objected to the essays' example about hair dye. you said it was only a superficial change. then you tried to build on top of your objection. Right, I was working out the consequences of that (apparently incorrect) interpretation of t Anonymous Questions 2016/10/06
> Guessing this question leads to conjectures about the ideas behind the emotion. one of the things behind the emotion is ignorance. if you understood the goodness thoroughly – and it was thoroughly good – then you wouldn't feel bad about Anonymous Questions 2016/10/06
More from http://fallibleideas.com/emotions: > Here is a rational way to use emotions in argument: "If doing that would be good, why do I feel bad about it? Do I have any ideas to change it slightly so that I'll feel good about it? If there is no w Anonymous Questions 2016/10/06
i'm saying it doesn't make much sense to object to something an essay said, then try to draw conclusions *from your objection* instead of from the essay. it's you who objected to the essays' example about hair dye. you said it was only a superficia Anonymous Questions 2016/10/06
> you're bickering with the example, then trying to a draw a conclusion in line with your bickering rather than in line with what the essay meant. There were parts of the essay where I honestly didn't know what was meant. There were other parts whe Anonymous Questions 2016/10/06
> But emotions aren't just ideas from culture, they can arise from our own ideas as well. the issue was: > Emotions embody traditional knowledge "embody" means have some. not all. your emotions are partly from cultural traditions. > Is Anonymous Questions 2016/10/06
More from http://fallibleideas.com/emotions > Some people are pessimistic about their ability to change their emotions. They think that emotions are biological or natural, and that emotions aren't ideas, knowledge or traditions. They think it follo Anonymous Questions 2016/10/06
But emotions aren't just ideas from culture, they can arise from our own ideas as well. The sentence also says that "we don't have a full, conscious understanding of" emotions. Is that always the case? Later in the essay, it says that if you no Anonymous Questions 2016/10/06
there are cultural traditions about how to treat children (and everyone else) which pass on various ideas including about emotions. Anonymous Questions 2016/10/06
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From http://fallibleideas.com/emotions > Emotions embody traditional knowledge which we don't have a full, conscious understanding of. Emotions are also fallible and possible to change. What does traditional knowledge mean? I looked up the dicti Anonymous Questions 2016/10/06
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> making no change i meant "making that change". and i meant shame isn't actually the full issue. it's the tip of the iceberg. curi Questions 2016/10/02
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>> What's your point? The expression is silly and merits criticism. >Elliot criticized a literal interpretation of the expression. Even taken literally, it's not necessarily silly. If the girl is walking through a door, she is moving in a direc Different Anon Silly Song 2016/09/27
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>> i think most children are happy to conform. they are not being coerced as newborns when they are taught gender roles because they do not have conflicting ideas in their minds yet. > > then what's all the coercion for? do you mean gender role Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/24
> i think most children are happy to conform. they are not being coerced as newborns when they are taught gender roles because they do not have conflicting ideas in their minds yet. then what's all the coercion for? curi Parents at the Park 2016/09/24
> i'm sad that you dismissed everything else said because of a little mistake. you have no knowledge of what i did with the rest, and you are apparently dismissing this: http://curi.us/comments/show/6679 curi Parents at the Park 2016/09/24
ok. you didn't say always. but i don't even agree it requires frequent coercion. i think most children are happy to conform. they are not being coerced as newborns when they are taught gender roles because they do not have conflicting ideas in their m Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/24
> > you say "teach" but it **frequently** requires lots of force and coercion, for years, to get children to conform. > i do not agree it **always** does. (emphasis added) curi Parents at the Park 2016/09/24
>> if women have difficulty presenting themselves a certain way, say, wearing make up well, it's often because their parents were adverse to traditional gender roles and didn't teach them. > > you say "teach" but it frequently requires lots of forc Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/24
it's also bad if you don't recognize that disagreement-you-attribute-to-stupidity and disagreement-you-attribute-to-ignorance have a lot in common. if they are just disconnected, separate things in your mind that's bad. they have a lot in common (the curi Bad Thinking List 2016/09/24
sometimes people are stupid, ignorant, overreaching, etc. sometimes i notice, though i also sometimes don't think about it. a lot of problems i have in conversations are because i forget people are stupid, ignorant, irrational, have low standards, etc curi Bad Thinking List 2016/09/24
> a big categorization thing people do is they categorize disagreements. one they think of as the other guy being stupid, rather than as a disagreement. another is the other guy being ignorant, not a disagreement, in their mind. another is their kid " Anonymous Bad Thinking List 2016/09/24
> i think you are wrong that everyone can get jobs where they don't have to compromise. whether you have to compromise is a topic change from whether something is a compromise. recall that you wrote: >>> i don't remember suggesting compromise? curi Parents at the Park 2016/09/24
>> Girls do not leave in a world without gender roles and without social pressure to conform to those. > > defending teaching gender roles b/c ppl are under pressure to conform is a compromise. ok, i see what you mean now. i still think it's Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/24
>> Another interesting thing you didn't notice is that guys know the girl's face was made up. > > where did you get the idea that i didn't notice this? > > are you assuming i didn't notice 100% of the things i didn't write down here? i can't Anonymous Silly Song 2016/09/23
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a big categorization thing people do is they categorize disagreements. one they think of as the other guy being stupid, rather than as a disagreement. another is the other guy being ignorant, not a disagreement, in their mind. another is their kid "no curi Bad Thinking List 2016/09/23
I think you should reply to: http://curi.us/comments/show/6679 if you disagree, could you explain? i think we should make some effort to organize the discussion, get some perspective and context, set expectations, and decide where to focus ou curi Parents at the Park 2016/09/23
> Another interesting thing you didn't notice is that guys know the girl's face was made up. where did you get the idea that i didn't notice this? are you assuming i didn't notice 100% of the things i didn't write down here? as to the rest i curi Silly Song 2016/09/23
> I'm just curious if Ayn Rand sold out for money or not. not. her story doesn't say it's IMPOSSIBLE to live in the world. it presents some problems and difficulties. the character in the story fails (he may try again later and succeed, but he curi Comments on "Defending Capitalism against Ayn Rand" 2016/09/23
Joe loves 5 computer games. CS, LoL, dota2, war3, sc2. Billy says "hey wanna play overwatch?" Joe thinks "hey overwatch sounds fun, ok" and plays a bunch of overwatch with billy. Joe actually likes those other 5 games more and would have had curi Bad Thinking List 2016/09/23
> i think you have selective attention on popular things. the vast majority of controversial things are unpopular. such as? and how would you know about all these controversial things if they are not popular? :) and why didn't they become popul Anonymous Comments on "Defending Capitalism against Ayn Rand" 2016/09/23
>>> paying lots of attention to one thing someone mentioned (e.g. a video game) instead of to a bunch of others that are better but you aren't thinking about. >> >> Isn't it impossible to not do this? What you pay attention to depends on what you a Anonymous Bad Thinking List 2016/09/23
>> i'm not offended of criticism of parents. i wonder why you made this conclusion. > > your bald assertion about yourself is an appeal to authority, not an argument. there was no argument on your part either. i was asking how you reached the con Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/23
>>> i don't think you'll understand this. >> >> this is what conventional parents say to children. > > why are you here? you are hostile. what do you think you're going to accomplish? in what way is catching you doing something we both agree Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/23
> play is educational in general but that doesn't mean that particular play educates you about particular things. playing with a doll when you're 3 is not how you get good at parenting a baby and e.g. learn to hold a baby as an adult, many years later Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/23
> it's bizarre that you think someone who "identifies as a boy" was not taught gender roles. being a boy is a gender role. you seem to take these parents you don't like, who are doing various bad things, and then for some reason give them *credit* as Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/23
> What's your point? The expression is silly and merits criticism. Elliot criticized a literal interpretation of the expression. Even as literal interpretation it wasn't very good criticism. I doubt every guy in the party was facing the door. On Anonymous Silly Song 2016/09/23
> you sound like you are very very hostile to Objectivism. do you understand that you are contradicting Objectivism? do you have a refutation of Objectivism to offer? i wasn't thinking of objectivism. the idea that people's preferences are a manife Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/23
you're starting in the middle of a complex discussion. you may have history doing this and think it works. it can sorta work when people have enough in common. it generally works badly when there's major differences which result in assumed expectation curi Parents at the Park 2016/09/23
> have you considered that one can help people in ways that are actually helpful and good? that that's possible? that there's some better things to do that leave your kid figure life out on their own? i didn't suggest that. leaving your kid figurin Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/23
your bald assertion about yourself is an appeal to authority, not an argument. Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/23
> if you want to learn about this topic, you should start by giving some indication of what you think you know about TCS so far, and ask some questions to help make progress. discuss it in the context of trying to learn instead of the context of being Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/23
disagreeing with you does not constitute confusion. people are not simply controlled by memes. people also make choices and think for themselves. especially children. you sound like you are very very hostile to Objectivism. do you understand tha Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/23
> offer child a wider variety of things based on what you think she as an individual wants (rather than going by her group memberships such as "female"). thoughts: i think you are confused about what being an individual as everyone else is. eve Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/23
> this is what conventional parents say to children. why are you here? you are hostile. what do you think you're going to accomplish? Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/22
play is educational in general but that doesn't mean that particular play educates you about particular things. playing with a doll when you're 3 is not how you get good at parenting a baby and e.g. learn to hold a baby as an adult, many years later, Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/22
> i don't think you'll understand this. this is what conventional parents say to children. Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/22
> that role play is a dumb gender role thing. it's not useful for 3 year olds to do that. it doesn't seriously help them be good parents later. it's a ritual, not actual learning of useful skills that will come in handy later. and there's much better Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/22
lots of times people know a ton of other video games and could remember them and prioritize if they stopped and tried to. but they don't. they selectively focus on what's in front of them in stead of other stuff they DO know about. Anonymous Bad Thinking List 2016/09/22
> why respect, why not offer criticism? you can do that too. respect and criticism don't contradict. Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/22
> It is unclear to me what would you have done as a TCS parent. Would you offer criticism and tell the child the doll is not a fragile thing and it's OK to just drop it on the floor when she was trying to get on the trike? Would you help the child wit Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/22
> there is no contradiction in thinking that: > > 1) it was a mistake to teach the kid to value X > > 2) once the kid did value X, the parent should respect the kid's values why respect, why not offer criticism? Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/22
> So the child was role playing, learning how to take care of a baby, when you initially dismissed it as a dumb gender role thing. that role play is a dumb gender role thing. it's not useful for 3 year olds to do that. it doesn't seriously help th Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/22
> Early in your post you criticized gender roles that make the girl care. Gender roles the mother passed on. Now you think the mother should have noticed the daughter cared. Seems you are contracting yourself over what is important. there is no Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/22
> paying lots of attention to one thing someone mentioned (e.g. a video game) instead of to a bunch of others that are better but you aren't thinking about. Isn't it impossible to not do this? What you pay attention to depends on what you already k Anonymous Bad Thinking List 2016/09/22
> > i think she was very bad at explaining it and was not a patient helper > I disagree with your idea that parents should be super helpful. I think helping kids too much leads to learned helplessness. They lean on parents to solve problems for th Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/22
you're seriously trying to deny that girls and boys get different encouragement, treatment, advice, etc, regarding dolls? you think parents give equally many dolls, of the same types, to girls and boys? as to gender roles, if something teaches ge Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/22
> and dropped it into a little basket on the back of the trike that was like 2 inches above the ground > mom was unaware or uncaring that her daughter cared about the doll, and treated it very carefully Early in your post you criticized gender rol Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/22
> i think she was very bad at explaining it and was not a patient helper I disagree with your idea that parents should be super helpful. I think helping kids too much leads to learned helplessness. They lean on parents to solve problems for them in Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/22
> the girl is taught to treat a doll like it's special and important and fragile The Toy Story films are not about a girl, so I'm not sure about your theory that this particular doll problem is a girl specific thing. I do agree girls in general Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/22
> and the gender roles. none of the guys had this problem. they would play. the girl is taught priorities that get in her way. Thoughts: The gender roles might get in her way now she is a child, but having a parent who helps her ignore those rol Anonymous Parents at the Park 2016/09/22
#6653 philosophy of science vs epistemology in general different types of writing (essay, blog post, book chapter that's an essay, impressive paper that's an essay someone created a postscript file of) school education vs. stuff you didn't le Anonymous Bad Thinking List 2016/09/22
What's your point? The expression is silly and merits criticism. Anonymous Silly Song 2016/09/22
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