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Ayn Rand like Gail Wynand?

Ayn Rand sold millions of books to millions of people who do not understand her ideas or respect her values. Sold perhaps tens of books to people who actually get it. Her books apparently have massive appeal to people who misunderstand them or otherwise don't get the point.

Doesn't this make Ayn Rand kind of like Gail Wynand? What are the differences?

You will say Rand didn't flatter fools on purpose. True. But, intentionally or not, it seems her books do contain a lot of material that's very appealing to fools. She put in something they like. And in most cases the thing they like is not Objectivism, which they don't understand and would hate if they did understand it.

Elliot Temple on July 8, 2016

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If people understood objectivism they wouldn't hate it


Anonymous at 11:12 PM on July 8, 2016 | #6132 | reply | quote

what's your point?


Anonymous at 11:14 PM on July 8, 2016 | #6133 | reply | quote

I was contradicting this:

> She put in something they like. And in most cases the thing they like is not Objectivism, which they don't understand and would hate if they did understand it.


Anonymous at 5:45 PM on July 9, 2016 | #6139 | reply | quote

there's different ways to read it.

if people FULLY understood Objectivism they'd like it.

if Objectivism was presented more clearly to them (e.g. they were told 500 more things it implies, concludes, etc, and given some arguments for them) they'd HATE it more. readers of AS don't realize even 10% of how much it contradicts them.


Anonymous at 11:25 PM on July 9, 2016 | #6140 | reply | quote

> if Objectivism was presented more clearly to them (e.g. they were told 500 more things it implies, concludes, etc, and given some arguments for them) they'd HATE it more. readers of AS don't realize even 10% of how much it contradicts them.

Ok. I agree.


Anonymous at 6:06 AM on July 10, 2016 | #6146 | reply | quote

> You will say Rand didn't flatter fools on purpose. True. But, intentionally or not, it seems her books do contain a lot of material that's very appealing to fools. She put in something they like. And in most cases the thing they like is not Objectivism, which they don't understand and would hate if they did understand it.

I think this assumes that Rand didn't like those things. If she did like those things, then that's not like Wynand. Wynand had his people put stuff in his newspapers that he judged to be crap. Right?


Anonymous at 7:12 PM on August 31, 2016 | #6606 | reply | quote

why would Rand like fools and crap? her books contradict the hell out of them, it's just not crystal clear to fools.


Anonymous at 7:14 PM on August 31, 2016 | #6607 | reply | quote

#6607

I didn't say Rand likes fools.

Re "crap": she could have some mistakes that other people also have. Example, she's pro-love. Why? Static memes. She got some static memes and she didn't get rid of all of the ones she got.


Anonymous at 7:31 PM on August 31, 2016 | #6608 | reply | quote

you're boring.


Anonymous at 9:33 PM on August 31, 2016 | #6609 | reply | quote

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