[deroj] Project Steps
Think about some projects you already do, which you understand pretty well (nothing complicated or confusing), and write down the steps. Post it to the Message Board at the FI Learning Basecamp (not as a comment below).
I will post project steps for small, easy projects in this thread.
This project became ended up with more steps than I first intended it to have. Maybe I should start with projects that are less zoomed in.
Try it again several times in different ways and see how you like them.
Making a cup of tea - version 2
I like this version (6 step version) better than the previous 18 step version.
This version doesn't go into detail as much as the previous one but I still think the steps are clear enough.
This kind of detail isn't needed for the goals of the current learning activity (and is debatable). I don't think deroj should get distracted worrying about it.
Create a new note in Bear (app) on Mac
You can close the window (it will save automatically) but you do not have to close the window in order to create the new note so I have omitted that step from the steps above.
Below is a project tree of how I think I should organize my learning (philosophy & programming) for the time being.
Some problems that I have had before, when it comes to learning, include:
("PS course" = Pragmatic Studio course on Ruby)
Another project that I am doing is learning to make a webpage using Jekyll and Github pages.
Below is my attempt at doing a project tree (using what I am learning as I practice doing project steps). I know close to nothing about making a webpage using Jekyll right now.
I will continue practicing making simpler projects, but as I am attempting to learn to make a webpage I figured I could practice applying the project steps to that project as well.
Shaving with shaving machine. (Does not include post shaving procedure or cleaning machine.)
#1
I chose to break it up into three main parts. Roughly:
#2
I then made another tree using only one level of nodes for the project.
A third way of organizing "Making a cup of tea":
I think I will try to do this next.
I think that I like #2 ("Making a cup of tea") the best because the steps follow a good progression from left to right in that example. I also think that I understand each step of "making a cup of tea" well enough for there to be enough information in each step for me to achieve each step at a low error rate.
I'm not sure.
Generally, my best guess is that I do not know how to write meaningful short posts that take ~3 min or less to post.
Regarding what the actual blocker might be: maybe it's poor writing skills (e.g. it's hard for me to omit meaningless stuff), or poor knowledge about good ideas and things to write, or not knowing how to ask good questions, or a combination of these, or something else.
I generally do not want to post stuff that I have not put any effort into on FI forums. I do not see the value in posting low effort stuff. Low effort posts seem equivalent to talking about the weather / chitchatting to me. Am I mistaken about low effort posts?
I equated low effort with not being meaningful in the crossed over part above. This was a mistake. If one is good at writing and thinking then one can post meaningful stuff that is low effort.This post was not low effort for me.
I am revisiting what I believe to be my problem / blocker as I have thought more about it while writing this post:
- I do not know how to write short, meaningful, low effort post in ~less than 3 min.
That's a blocker. You're blocking posts you don't deem "meaningful".
Your posts don't have to be "meaningful" to be practice "engaging actively", nor for them to serve other purposes like getting more experience talking with people in writing, helping/letting people get to know you better, establishing rapport with people, making posting more routine and demystified for you, etc.
This makes sense to me. Thx.
Some things I thought of re advantages and disadvantages of #1, #2, and #3 of "Making a cup of tea - version 2":
#1
Advantages:
#2
Advantages:
#3
Advantages:
Project: Count previous projects to determine how many I have done so far and start numbering them after this one.
I will not count iterations / versions of the same as a project here.
The steps I followed in the "count precious projects" project:
This is what I ended up with:
Project #8: making pancakes
Project #9: making pancakes (as a tree)
I made three different trees for this project.
I started with a very simple model and grew it for one level for each new tree version. It shows the progression from very simple to somewhat detailed.
also, does shaker refer to a specialized kitchen utility for pancakes? i've often just used a measuring cup with a spout
I usually use oil for three main reasons:
1. It's cheaper
2. I save the butter for gf's baking
3. IIRC I sometimes burned the butter (iron cast pan)
I have not compared the two recently. Have you?
It's nothing specialized - just a plain protein shake shaker. I find it easier to clean the shaker compared to a bowl / cup and spout.
Edit was the wording of the line "I usually use oil for three main reasons".
EDIT: I meant to say compared to other fats :)
did you have any difficulty with the 3 levels of pancakes?
next, if this stuff is easy for you, one of the things you could look at is the error of sibling nodes at different levels of detail (e.g. if "make batter" and "extend your hand towards the handle of the pan" were siblings). you could try making or finding some examples and criticizing them.
I think that I understand the higher level part enough to succeed with it re the pancakes. Here is a tree with two higher levels (using the level 1 tree):
I think it was fairly easy for me to do this. I did take some time to rewrite / adjust on the level of detail on it. I roughly started out with "level 2" and added "level 1" and "level 3" to it - so I kind of did one "zoom out" level in making the first 3 trees.
I'm not sure what you mean here. Do you mean something like that each level should have approximately the same level of detail and for me to try to look at my pancake tree and see if that is the case? And also to try to make an examples of what I believe is the same level of detail and an example of what would be different kind of detail for a same level node? And try to discuss a little why one example is on the same level and why another example is not on the same level? Something like that?
re sibling detail level mismatch: if you think you understand the idea well enough to try out doing it, and you are able to have a plan in your own mind that seems worth a try, then go ahead. if not, don't. that's up to you.
I think that I only have a rough idea of it. I will read "Understanding Levels of Detail: Zooming Trees In and Out" again now that I have worked some more on trees and levels.