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Conservativism doesn't name a specific school of thought. People are welcome to have their own individual schools of thought, like Bob-LW or Joe-LW, using whatever they want of their own ideas and references to LW (and other) material. The individu curi Less Wrong Lacks Representatives and Paths Forward 2017/11/17
Who is the representative of conservatism? Does the idea of having canonical representatives make sense, given every individual will have a different take? Anonymous Less Wrong Lacks Representatives and Paths Forward 2017/11/17
> (Still may not get to a more proper reply today, but I'll reply to the most recent point.) There is no hurry on my account. I think the only hurry is if you're losing interest or otherwise in danger of dropping the topic due to time passing. - curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/14
(Still may not get to a more proper reply today, but I'll reply to the most recent point.) > I'm not very concerned about edge cases. If 5% of intellectuals claim some exceptions, and 95% do Paths Forward, that sounds just fine for now. I will tent PL Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/14
ppl don't wanna do effort. they see Paths Forward as demanding they do lots of effort. their response is to try to argue for having to do less work. you don't understand this, curi, because you actually love your life, like Roark or Rearden. you tr Anonymous Less Wrong Lacks Representatives and Paths Forward 2017/11/14
I'm not very concerned about edge cases. If 5% of intellectuals claim some exceptions, and 95% do Paths Forward, that sounds just fine for now. I will tentatively accept some rare edge cases, and we can investigate them more carefully at some later da curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/13
> that's the kind of filter i think is bad. the sort of filter i think is good will work just as well even if people know what it is. > i don't think you should filter on .edu email addresses b/c people with .com email addresses can be correct. if PL Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/13
As Ayn Rand would say: check your premises. Avoiding debates about your premises is so dumb. Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/13
> although I think you may have exceptionally much time to respond to things as compared to other people (or maybe you're assigning my remarks high importance?). two more comments on this to add to what i said above. 1) my comments to you have n curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/13
🦊💩🐵🐶🐱🐔🦄🐼 curi Less Wrong Lacks Representatives and Paths Forward 2017/11/13
> although I think you may have exceptionally much time to respond to things as compared to other people (or maybe you're assigning my remarks high importance?). i write a lot faster than you're estimating, with less energy/effort used. this is a s curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/13
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/4888618/sex-worker-slept-10000-men-answers-questions-women/ > In fact, in the decade she was in the industry, the most important thing to her clients was “feeling of being needed and wanted. Wanted badly by a hor What do men want from women/sex? Discussion 2017/11/13
> Someone else tried to use Paths Forward to control and pressure me. They didn't get far at all. After they said some nonsense, and I replied briefly, they wrote more non sequiturs. They wanted to use PF to make me talk with them an unlimited amount PL Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/13
MIRI puts a meaningful amount of their effort into scaring the public into thinking AGI is dangerous – b/c they think it’s dangerous. They frame this as: AGI is in fact dangerous and they’re working to make it safer. But the practical effect is Anonymous Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/12
People who said they could not represent LW and speak for its views also proposed to judge whether curi understood LW's views correctly or not. wtf. Anonymous Less Wrong Lacks Representatives and Paths Forward 2017/11/12
So one the one hand, LW people object to LW being a school of thought, at all. On the other hand, several of them demanded curi state their positions to prove he understands how they think and did his homework. But how can he know their positions i Anonymous Less Wrong Lacks Representatives and Paths Forward 2017/11/12
> This doesn't seem right to me. I think you mean: that's correct as far as it goes, regarding being able to write expert level material instead of making everything lowest-common-denominator accessible. But it doesn't speak to some other issues li curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/12
> > Every party you need to justify yourself to adds constraints of understandability to your actions, meaning that eventually you need to be justifiable to the lowest common denominator. MIRI is a special place in that its staff are more free to go a PL Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/12
There's no force involved here. It's just some comments on how reason works. Paths Forward is no more forceful than these suggestions (which I mostly agree with) that you should do these 12 things or you're not doing reason correctly: http://yudkowsky curi Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/11
I'm not in a hurry; take your time in a way that is compatible with also not losing interest (hopefully). I have written clarifications about empiricism and instrumentalism. There may be some terminology differences and we disagree less than you th curi Replies to Gyrodiot About Fallible Ideas, Critical Rationalism and Paths Forward 2017/11/11
A partial answer Gyrodiot Replies to Gyrodiot About Fallible Ideas, Critical Rationalism and Paths Forward 2017/11/11
I find the idea interesting. In some sense, it seems like it would be nice for organizations to be as transparently accountable as possible. For example, in many cases, the government is contradictory in its behavior -- laws cannot be easily interp PL Open Letter to Machine Intelligence Research Institute 2017/11/11
12 Rationalist Virtues curi Discussion 2017/11/10
Children Are Not Property Mary Naylor Peikoff: Children Are Property 2017/11/10
Here’s my commentary on paths forward http://justinmallone.com/2017/01/paths-forward-comments-part-1/ Justin Mallone Less Wrong Lacks Representatives and Paths Forward 2017/11/09
there is a message for you from outside the circles of time i am an imperfect messenger but this is what it said: the capsids of your spicules burst with neutrinos while the echo of your demise travels sideways in possibility you will rem schizophrenia is contagious Discussion 2017/11/08
Biggest issue is DD doesn't understand and/or disagrees with the story of Gail Wynand. curi New Websites 2017/11/03
Sorry I should have been more clear, although that is interesting. Rand believes in induction then? What I meant was: do you have any disagreements with Deutsch regarding Ayn Rand? Or is it merely he is not familiar with all her work? Cam New Websites 2017/11/01
You can request threads. BUt there are already existing threads about TCS, induction, econ, etc, which you can use. curi Discussion 2017/11/01
#9229 Induction. Femininity. How revealing physical appearance is. How effective explanation is (e.g. IMO Roark could have explained more to Dominique earlier, and Francisco to Dagny). These are milder disagreements than you might guess. curi New Websites 2017/11/01
Is there a way to start a new thread or can only Elliot do that? I have questions about TCS, coercion in general, induction, and free markets. Cam Discussion 2017/11/01
Do you have any disagreements about her views that you're aware of? If so, can you summarise them? Cam New Websites 2017/11/01
David Deutsch is a fan of Ayn Rand, but has studied her less than I have. curi New Websites 2017/11/01
Hi Elliot. I've come across you from reading BOI. Is David Deutsch an objectivist like you? If not, is he at least sympathetic with Ayn Rand? I'm aware he's a fan of capitalism and against coercion. Anonymous New Websites 2017/11/01
Yo guys, check out the FI posts about this discussion: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/fallible-ideas/conversations/topics/24361 curi If I Were President... 2017/10/25
> I tried searching for "static meme"...seems like DD uses the term anti-rational memes instead. they're equivalent. > But I'm wondering: what's interesting about memes and how those ideas are transmitted between people? well, to begin with, Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/25
>@emotions you aren't talking about: > >http://fallibleideas.com/emotions I like this article although have some questions / criticisms. Will try to return to it sometime. > >or > >https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EVMK0H0/ Will check this ou Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/25
have you tried posting simple stuff where you *don't* [overreach](http://fallibleideas.com/overreach) and *don't* make a ton of mistakes? then criticism can't be a firehose due to lack of targets. @ET have u tried making *requests* regarding things Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/25
@emotions you aren't talking about: http://fallibleideas.com/emotions or https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EVMK0H0/ or BoI static meme stuff. Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/25
> > -For emotional problems, practicing stuff I learned in a few books > do you want criticism of those books? Sure. Thinking about this some more, I guess the ideas I have come from a lot of different places (not just books), including FI. Ther Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/25
> why don't you state your actual problem with FI? In short, a low-grade persistent fear. Fear of what? I’m not 100% sure. Part of it is that its a public forum, so everything will be in the public record forever. The world is full of bad/m Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/25
> -For the anxiety issue, practicing stuff I learned from a couple of books on the subject. > what kinda stuff? The two books that helped: 1) DARE: https://www.amazon.com/Dare-Anxiety-Stop-Panic-Attacks/dp/0956596258 2) The Worry Trick: h Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/24
in general when ppl have negative emotions about statements, it's not just an emotional issue. they also misunderstand something about the statement or about relevant philosophy. (or there is some flaw in the statement.) Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/24
why don't you state your actual problem with FI? can you quote something you don't like and say why you don't like it? or do you think such a request is unreasonable? or what? Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/24
why do you think reading some unnamed books will solve the problems? in general, pre-FI activities to lead up to FI don't work. when has anyone ever had much success with that? plus i think most books on those kinds of topics are bad. politics is * Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/24
> > -Disagree with things Elliott says, would like to resolve those disagreements, e.g. expose my ideas and his ideas to criticism, learn more > well, quote one and argue your point? preferably on FI list. > you won't get far if you're being impre Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/24
> it's better to do some money making and some other projects, instead of putting all the other stuff off for years. I agree and I'd like to do that. > it's better to make money for a few years, then do other stuff for a few years, then go back Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/24
2-4 hours a day is a LOT to do some projects if it's mentally alert/energetic time. you can get a lot of reading done, write a lot, whatever. Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/24
it's better to do some money making and some other projects, instead of putting all the other stuff off for years. failing that, it's better to make money for a few years, then do other stuff for a few years, then go back to making money. rather th Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/24
> > -Financial independence. Saving/investing $X so that working for money no longer needed. E.g. Keeping annual expenses low and reaching savings of ~25x annual expenses so that you can perpetually live off investments. > Why do you want to perpet Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/24
> -Financial independence. Saving/investing $X so that working for money no longer needed. E.g. Keeping annual expenses low and reaching savings of ~25x annual expenses so that you can perpetually live off investments. Why do you want to perpetuall Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/24
Current problems (in no particular order): -Not having a good list of current problems :) I made this list off the cuff, I'm probably communicating things poorly, missing some things, etc. -Emotional problems. Emotions like fear, shame, anger th Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/24
do you have a plan? do you want to talk about your life and get advice on a plan? what are your resources, options, current problems, etc? Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/24
> you don't have anything productive to say. My goal was share some thoughts, get criticism, learn. I didn't expect to say anything novel...I'm not that knowledgeable. Is there something you'd suggest I do differently? > why are you here? To Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/24
you're misreading about anger. but you don't have anything productive to say. why are you here? do you want to learn philosophy? Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/24
trying to look pretty "for yourself" = trying to look pretty for other people, but internalizing it and being dishonest. that's *even worse*. read https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2013/01/no_self-respecting_woman_would.html Anonymous Discussion 2017/10/24
> none of your concerns make any sense. it's just generic "omg what if something goes wrong?" and you seem to assume that literally no steps are taken that aren't explicitly stated in the post, which is ridiculous. I wasn't assuming no steps. My gu Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/24
i know that trying to look pretty so that other people like me is bad. is there anything wrong with trying to look pretty for myself? AnonGirl Discussion 2017/10/24
> you made multiple grammar mistakes in your try-hard summary, which is a bad sign. What does try-hard summary mean? Bad sign of what? Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/24
> Maybe spending more time investigating how things currently work and brainstorming ways that the forum approach will help or hurt. Maybe having a period of time where you ask people to give their thoughts on problems created by switching from meetin Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/24
Elliot says he would "cancel most of the meetings, travel, etc, etc, and make some forums which are publicly readable". He added in the comments that he "wouldn't get rid of *all* private conversations" For the initial implementation of this, th Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/24
you tell us what your argument is. Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/24
> so what? people make mistakes. you don't have a clear point. I agree people make mistakes, and I don't think I'm suggesting some approach which somehow avoids all mistakes. Where do you see that I did that? > you lost track of what you're argu Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/24
so what? people make mistakes. you don't have a clear point. you lost track of what you're arguing. there is no method which avoids all mistakes Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/24
> if you persuaded half the country already, you've done tons of steps already. the knowledge to support the actions already exists Maybe, but I wouldn't assume that. History is full of politicians who were elected to implement bad ideas and fast. Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/24
if you persuaded half the country already, you've done tons of steps already. the knowledge to support the actions already exists. Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/24
> if i were electable with this plan, then it'd be ok to do it. it's like if you run on draining the swamp hardcore, then it's ok to start draining the swamp hardcore when u get elected instead of doing it all careful and gradual. In this example, Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/24
if i were electable with this plan, then it'd be ok to do it. it's like if you run on draining the swamp hardcore, then it's ok to start draining the swamp hardcore when u get elected instead of doing it all careful and gradual. i wouldn't get rid of curi If I Were President... 2017/10/24
I like it. Although, I would caution about making such a change too quickly. You might destroy knowledge in the existing norms/traditions. I don't know much about this stuff but possible example would be: face-to-face, private convos with other co Anon69 If I Were President... 2017/10/24
There's theory in that Anonymous Discussion About the Importance of Explanations with Andrew Crawshaw 2017/10/24
Jordan Peterson, Dave Rubin, Onkar Ghate on Free Speech Streamed live on Oct 19, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP2WlfTiohw FF Discussion 2017/10/24
you're comparing an objective to a method. it's kinda like saying that scoring touchdowns is more important than throwing passes. passes are a way to score touchdowns. you can do both at the same time. Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/20
closing down the welfare system is more important than creating forums! Anonymous If I Were President... 2017/10/20
fixed, thx Anonymous Discussion 2017/10/18
This link is broken https://curi.us/files/podcasts/pq-always-have-to-be-productive.mp3. Anonymous Discussion 2017/10/18
When I said "Rand's ideas are central to BoI" I didn't mean the book but the Beginning of Infinity that is the topic of the book. Deutsch may or may not agree, I don't know. Who cares? What's important is what is true. And what I think is true is that Anonymous IQ 3 2017/10/16
what moral philosophy in BoI, exactly, with quotes, do you think is super Objectivist and central? Anonymous IQ 3 2017/10/16
Ok, thanks for clearing that up regarding Deutsch and gw. Regarding Rand and BoI, I am thinking that there can be no BoI without Rand's moral philosophy. Her ideas are central in that respect. I don't think you disagree that moral philosophy is imp Anonymous IQ 3 2017/10/16
DD presents a socially acceptable reason to oppose destroying the economy over global warming, which doesn't depending on standing up to the "experts". that argument is worthwhile, but not the only one he's aware of. why did he choose that argument Anonymous IQ 3 2017/10/16
Wake me up when Trump starts building a wall or Obamacare is dead or Iran is dead. But I'll wait (not like I have a choice), it's not hopeless that he'll get stuff done later. Cruz would have been better at draining the swamp and some other things. Anonymous Don't Trust Trump, He's Not a Conservative 2017/10/16
Do you think Trump has lived up to the hype now? Is he as squishy as you thought? Also what happened to Cruz? Why is he so silent? He ought to be supporting Trump much more. I say thank God Trump won rather than Cruz. Trump is awesome. Anonymous Don't Trust Trump, He's Not a Conservative 2017/10/16
Why has Deutsch made only "limited public comments" about Rand? Why didn't he discuss her at some length in his books? Rand's ideas are central to BoI right? I would be interested to know what he has said publicly. Can you point me to that? Re. gl Anonymous IQ 3 2017/10/16
I have talked with DD about Ayn Rand many times, so I can tell you he read a lot of her work, liked it, knows a lot about it, etc. He also gave me explicit permission to public say he's a fan of Ayn Rand, specifically b/c of his limited public comment curi IQ 3 2017/10/14
> FYI Deutsch is a fan of Ayn Rand If he is a fan of Ayn Rand he has kept it hidden. Some fan. If this is only something he has told you in personal communications then I am suspicious that he wasn't just lying. > an opponent of global warming Anonymous IQ 3 2017/10/14
> Update: They also banned anyone from posting a link to anything I wrote. Jesus christ. Think they'll ever update the written rules so members can be aware that some views about CR are being censored!? Anonymous Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/14
What are some ways to set up your life so that changes are cheap? I'm thinking about stuff like avoiding long-term commitments or other restrictions on your freedom. Also, don't tie "being right" to your self-image. Having to deal with defensiv Kate Do Thousands of Error Corrections 2017/10/13
sorry, fixed Anonymous Do Thousands of Error Corrections 2017/10/13
The last two paragraphs you quoted me as writing were not written by me. Anne B Do Thousands of Error Corrections 2017/10/13
Guess Luc Castelein Discussion About the Importance of Explanations with Andrew Crawshaw 2017/10/13
logic is not your strong suit oh my god it's turpentine Discussion About the Importance of Explanations with Andrew Crawshaw 2017/10/13
Testability and testing are different things. Anonymous Discussion About the Importance of Explanations with Andrew Crawshaw 2017/10/13
Just to remind you Luc Castelein Discussion About the Importance of Explanations with Andrew Crawshaw 2017/10/13
Now I understand Luc Castelein Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/13
i have no records of who has been banned at what times in the group. do you? the group has low activity, mostly docile people who defer to mild social pressure and aren't doing much. Anonymous Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/13
>something like this happening was inevitable If it was inevitable, why didn't it happen to anyone else? Anonymous Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/13
In the US, you can read public FB groups while logged out. Anonymous Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/12
blocking on cr forum Luc Castelein Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/12
>There has always been an unwritten rule on the cr-forum that you don't ban others. It's a basic principle of cr that you listen to others. why unwritten? especially if it's a "basic principle"? btw the proper, rule-of-law way of dealing with f Anonymous Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/12
> If you block me (which you did), I can't see your posts anymore. I even can't see my owm post replying to your comments any more. I didn't know that. That's dumb. FYI you can still see stuff if you open a private browser window (or otherwise Elliot Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/12
AC said: > It was interesting, yet you still refuse to concede my point that inventions can be created without explanations. What invention was created that didn't have an explanation about how it worked? He should read Feyman's essay on carg Anonymous Discussion About the Importance of Explanations with Andrew Crawshaw 2017/10/12
why? Luc Castelein Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/12
Andrew, Do you think arguments or evidence have weights or amounts? Do you think Miller thinks arguments or evidence have weights or amounts? Do you think Popper thinks arguments or evidence have weights or amounts? I'm saying arguments an curi David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/11
The first claim can also be made more precise by stating that just because there is more evidence against a theory it does not follow that it is worse, it just follows that it should not be preferred over the one with less evidence against it. Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/11
>being below zero doesn't change that. Miller does not state because a theory has been criticised that it is worse. He states it should not be preferred. It logically follows from the the state of the discussion, that you could have a stance of ind Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/11
If it was possible to measure verisimiltude, then it would be possible to see which theories are closer to the truth. The weight that Miller was talking about was not epistemological but logical. It is not an amount of epistemological "goodness". Noti Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/11
> Is mistaken to believe that a theory of verisimiltude might not be possible? Can you rephrase without a double negative? Or, better, don't open a new can of worms and instead, for the first time in the whole conversation, reply to the main iss Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
correction Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
Temple already did that. The third paragraph of his article reads: > These views share a mistake. They both attempt to judge which non-refuted idea is better using an amount (support or criticism-survival). I'll call that amount epistemological goo Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
It's not Miller's burden to locate how Temple's criticism applies to his theory. It is up to temple to draw on Miller's work. Represent it properly and explain how his criticism applies. Elliot needs to do the hard work here. Until that is done, then Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
Is mistaken to believe that a theory of verisimiltude might not be possible? Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
ET criticized all weight of evidence (and "epistemological weight" as you now bring up). Are you familiar with his argument? Do you agree that if ET is right about that then Miller is mistaken? Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
> Furthermore, it seems to me that you are mistaking [...] who is "you"? me???? David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
A friend and I went for food. I am not upset. The presumption that pointing out my errors makes me upset is incorrect. Furthermore, it seems to me that you are mistaking the task that a theory of verisimiltude would carry out; it woild for instan Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
When you ask "Which chapter?" people think you're being pedantic and looking for a word lawyer fight, regardless of whether it's a reasonable question. So they go into fighting mode (if they weren't already – some people just show up in that mode, o Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
do u think AC got mad at the implication that he isn't a threat or challenge to Miller, and that frustration informed the rest of the discussion from there? Or maybe he got mad at the very first thing said to him: > Which chapter? He never ac Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
> Why did you open a new debate with ET when you have an open one pending your reply? Andrew has at least two previous open discussions with ET pending Andrew's reply. Now, with this one, he has three. See: http://curi.us/2054-discussion-about-t Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
Andrew was constantly ignoring things that were said to him. e.g. early on: > And you aren't being responsive to e.g. what I already said in the blog post. He apparently didn't understand that (based on him never doing it) and didn't ask. He ju Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
> well, let's be real. there were on-topic non-meta points *in the original blog post* which he ignored the entire time! right. his inability to meaningfully engage with the material was one of the reasons the conversation developed a meta part. Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
> there were on-topic non-meta replies to him which he also ignored... well, let's be real. there were on-topic non-meta points *in the original blog post* which he ignored the entire time! Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
there were on-topic non-meta replies to him which he also ignored... Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
the argumentative visitor was emotionally caught up in the chat and now he stopped replying entirely literally couldn’t sort out quoting issue b4 RIP let alone sort out the actual topic partly b/c he *didn’t want* to sort out quoting issu bystander David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
See also #9120 #9121 and the open question: > Why did you open a new debate with ET when you have an open one pending your reply? Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
> Actually, I did not quote it wrong. That's exactly what it says in my copy. By which you meant you didn't quote wrong on your third attempt (and no one said you did)? Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
See #9125 #9127 #9129 Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
The quote in #9126 is accurate wording. Your claim remains criticised. Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
maybe he’s upset and flailing badly as you puncture his self-image Mysterious Jabroni David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
> If you look at my quote it says "empirical evidence". It is you who is failing to read it properly. What you first posted was: > "[T] he combination of evidence and deductive logic offers no advice concerning [...] what theory or course of act Spooky Ghost David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
If you look at my quote it says "empirical evidence". It is you who is failing to read it properly. Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
> Actually, I did not quote it wrong. That's exactly what it says in my copy. This is unclear. You wrote it two different ways. So you have two copies, which you refer to as "my copy"? Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
> I missed out "empirical". Sorry. Your claim about Miller remains criticised. Have you actually read all the comments? You've been answered already. Also tripling down on misquoting is not a "Sorry." and move on matter, it's a big deal. Being h Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
Actually, I did not quote it wrong. That's exactly what it says in my copy. Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
You need to figure out how to stop making mistakes so issues can get sorted out, and progress can be made. When you pile mistake on mistake, outstanding issues build up and become overwhelming instead of being resolved. In order to do this, you need t curi David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
I missed out "empirical". Sorry. Your claim about Miller remains criticised. Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
Andrew, I developed my standards and methods of arguments in thousands of hours of one-on-one discussions with David Deutsch. I find your standards and methods for discussion are inadequate to the task at hand. The truth requires better methodology to curi David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
It does exist. I will quote it in full. >"Given our aims and abstract predilections (for truth over falsehood, for truthlikeness and >accuracy over inaccuracy, for success over failure) the combination of empirical >evidence and deductive logic Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
> > > Indeed, [science] may also allow falsified hypotheses to be retained, provided that there is some weight of negative evidence that would eventually cause them to be banished. > I am not sure this links up with prefererences. You would have to Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
Why did you open a new debate with ET when you have an open one pending your reply? The text "combination of evidence and deductive logic" does not exist in *Out of Error*. You're literally repeated a misquote after being told it's a misquote. W Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
> > Indeed, [science] may also allow falsified hypotheses to be retained, provided that there is some weight of negative evidence that would eventually cause them to be banished. I am not sure this links up with prefererences. You would have to exp Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
You say that critical rationalism states > "The better an idea survives criticism, the more preferred it is over competing ideas" This does not apply to Miller since accepts that that is wrong. He claims ...[T]he combination of evidence a Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
You're saying: not all of ET's arguments apply, with their exact wording, to Miller's revision of CR. So what? The main point applies. Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
You're omitting the italics and you didn't fix the second quote. You don't see to care about scholarship. You're still marking quotes wrong. How about you respond to the blog post: > > Indeed, [science] may also allow falsified hypotheses to be Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
Sorry, the quote in the above is wrong. Let me quote the last part again. "All that may be derived from the empirical report that T1 is refuted and T2 is not refuted (together with a statement of our preference of truth over falshood) is not that Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
Also please use ">" for quoting here so quotes are colored. It's way more readable. Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
Neither quote you give matches my copy of the book, and the first quote appears to have a typo in the first sentence. If you choose not to use an ebook and copy/paste, it's your responsibility to get quotes 100% exactly right. And you aren't being curi David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
It was not major. You are misunderstanding his view of CR. "This is what leads Popper to say that, since we prefer truth to falsehood, we prefer the refuted theory to the one that is not. But this preference is not a logical consequence, since it Anonymous David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
> This claim of yours is refuted in the chapter. Which chapter? Can you provide a quote or some indication of what you're talking about? I'm guessing I would read it and disagree (or I already did) and be unable to guess which part you meant and wh curi David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
"Critical Rationalism says ideas are criticized using evidence and argument. The better an idea survives criticism, the more preferred it is over competing ideas" This claim of yours is refuted in the chapter. I have had much interesting conver Andrew Crawshaw David Miller Doesn't Want To Discuss 2017/10/10
they assume you hate them 100x more than you admit, and they saw ET blocking them as a large escalation in how much he admitted hating them. so they went from thinking he was internally civil to estimating him to be internally murderously hateful. Anonymous Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/10
#9111, well said A Mysterious Person Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/10
the reason they banned ET on FB is they thot he had admitted he didn't like them, and they therefore banned him for breaking the social truce of pretending to like each other. what he did struck them as uncivil in their social metaphysics. Anonymous Banned from "Critical Rationalist" Facebook Group 2017/10/10

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