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i was watching McIntyre playing heroes of the storm with Wiz. (i've linked to the relevant timestamp.) Wiz is Korean and has limited English fluency. McIntyre answered a question from chat about how he talks with Wiz. McIntyre explained roughly:

wiz can understand certain important words well. but if i use full sentences, then wiz has a hard time with the words in between the key words. so it's easier for him if i just say more like bullet points or key words, not proper sentences.

this is wise :)

mcintyre gave an example. he says the sentence "hey wiz, can you come help me do top?" is hard for Wiz to understand. but if he just says "help top" then wiz understands.

after that i listened to him playing and talking a bit. so not intentional examples to answer the question, just talking.
one of McIntyre's sentences was "clone clone clone clone clone". this was much clearer than if he'd said, "hey wiz please clone me now so we can fight them".

another thing McIntyre said was, "care for boss". not, "hey please scout out the boss to make sure they don't do it cuz that would be bad for us"

this one may seem strange b/c "care for boss" is not normal english and would confuse a non-gamer b/c of the way the word "care" is used. it's gamer lingo that wiz would know but some native speakers might not. ppl say "care" to mean "be careful" and similar. Wiz understands it's a warning about a danger. and the danger is boss. and he knows what "boss" means – the threat of the enemy team doing the boss (an in-game concept).

i like this. it's good, simple communication. people should do this more when talking with native speakers, too. especially if they want to discuss philosophy (which is hard to communicate about)!

if people would pretend their discussion partners are non-native speakers with limited English vocabulary, i think a lot of intellectual discussions would go better. try it out!


Elliot Temple on April 17, 2016

Comments (9)

Example ?

How can you discuss complicated philosophy in short phrases ?

capitalism good. Socialism bad. Why bad ? steal money very bad

Anonymous at 10:42 AM on April 23, 2016 | #5126
you didn't try to explain how socialism steals money or why stealing (just money or anything?) is bad.

it'd help if you read Rand and Mises.

Anonymous at 10:46 AM on April 23, 2016 | #5128

Explanation

> you didn't try to explain how socialism steals money or why stealing >(just money or anything?) is bad.
>
>it'd help if you read Rand and Mises.

I didn't explain about that because I wanted you to do that.

I think explaining complicated philosophy would be harder in simple short sentences.

Can you explain something complicated in McIntyre's words ?

Anonymous at 11:01 AM on April 23, 2016 | #5134
You are ignoring me. Please give an example of a discussion in McIntyre's words. Any topic.

Anonymous at 12:54 AM on April 26, 2016 | #5138
pay me?

Anonymous at 12:57 AM on April 26, 2016 | #5139
check his blog archives before being so demanding.

e.g. http://curi.us/1799-skepticism-vs-infallibilism-vs-critical-rationalism

also he answers more questions from people who aren't banned from FI. maybe you shouldn't have harassed him, lied to him, and abused an email account he owns to evade moderation.

Anonymous at 1:16 AM on April 26, 2016 | #5140
>pay me?

How much?

Anonymous at 10:50 AM on May 4, 2016 | #5176
if this is a serious inquiry with a budget of $500 or more, email me with some more specific idea of the project you want to pay for. if you have a budget between $200 and $500, email Justin. if you have a budget under $200, try like mechanical turk, fiver, elance or odesk.

curi at 5:17 PM on May 4, 2016 | #5178
and if you have a budget of exactly $200, i guess you can try to google for a logician. glhf

Anonymous at 5:18 PM on May 4, 2016 | #5179

What do you think?

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