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I was tired yesterday and my last post had no thesis. I have two Relationship Theory posts I intend to write today.

Physics

Everyone knows that if you hit someone on the head, s/he won't turn into a democrat (assume s/he wasn't one). The chances of causing just the right brain damage to do that are on par with the chances of making her/him think s/he's a cow. This is because political affiliations are the result of many complex theories, and to affect them in just the right way to become a democrat would require an extraordinary ammount of information (or luck).

So why is it that people expect that some other physical effect, like faulty neurotransmitters or chemical imbalances, would be able to turn a happy person into a sad person? (Cause depression). How one is feeling is governed, just like political affilliation, by a large set of complex theories.

Or why do people think alcohol, which does not contain very much information, can change someone's personality?

The truth is that alcohol changes someone's environment (s/he gets different sense data while using it). Then, s/he reacts to this new environment according to her/his theories. And a lot of people have weird theories about how to act in alcohol-type environments. Depression works much the same.

Elliot Temple on February 4, 2003

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Are you saying that depression changes someone's environment? If so, can you say some more about that? I don't get how it would work.

Or are you only saying that depression is governed by a large set of complex theories, as alcohol is?


Anne B at 5:05 AM on January 12, 2020 | #15077 | reply | quote

Illiteracy exposed

That is not how alcohol affects the brain. Nor how depression works.

you clearly have not read any of the literature regarding addiction, nor depression.


Anonymous at 7:57 AM on January 12, 2020 | #15078 | reply | quote

#15078

> Illiteracy exposed

> That is not how alcohol affects the brain. Nor how depression works.

> you clearly have not read any of the literature regarding addiction, nor depression.

Contradiction: the title of the comment claims illiteracy as curi's problem causing him to not understand how alcohol affects the brain, but in the 2nd line of the comment Anon says that it's clear that curi did not read the relevant literature. curi either read and misunderstood (from Anon's perspective), or he didn't read at all. Anon was so thoughtless that he made this kind of mistake in a comment that is only 27 words long (including the title).

With so little thought by Anon, I expect he didn't understand what he read from curi. I guess he was in attack-curi-mode and wasn't critically thinking about his own judgements/conclusions.


44783 at 4:55 AM on January 19, 2020 | #15149 | reply | quote

#15077

> Are you saying that depression changes someone's environment? If so, can you say some more about that? I don't get how it would work.

when you are sad, that is a different environment for the intellectual side of you than compared to when you are not sad.

you'd have negative thoughts, bad feelings, and maybe be crying. those negative thoughts, bad feelings, and crying can trigger other thoughts/emotions (note that you already have those triggers in your mind). if you were not sad, those triggers would not be firing.

also, thoughts can cause chemical changes (like in your brain). those chemical things are part of your mind's environment.

note that if you integrated your mind enough, you'd be able to use your intellect to solve the problem (the problem being that you have thoughts and feelings that you don't want). this is a way of making yourself resistant to some environments. you can delink your triggers, effectively rendering the triggers non-existent. this is another way of saying that you can change your habits such that instead of having a negative thought and that leading to a train of bad/unwanted thoughts, it instead leads to a train of good/wanted thoughts.


44783 at 5:17 AM on January 19, 2020 | #15150 | reply | quote

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