It would have been better if John Galt didn't take a job as a track laborer.
I respect the principle not to spend wealth from Galt's Gulch outside the valley. Don't create value there then bring it back to the regular world to aid non-members.
But Galt had better things to do with his time, like work in his lab, and I see a simple solution. Francisco could have simply given Galt a million dollars. Galt could pay him back in some way in the Gulch, or not, I don't think it matters too much. Francisco already had plenty of outside world money and wouldn't be harmed by giving some to Galt (he was in the process of destroying his outside wealth anyway).
Consider the effect on the outside world. In the one case, Galt does some minimally productive work, then spends money on food. In the other case, Galt doesn't do that work, then spends money on food. In both cases, the grocery store gets some dollar bills for their food, and Galt eats the same thing. In one case, an outside world company gets some extra help, though not of a kind or amount that made any fundamental difference.
If Galt just wanted to observe Dagny and chat with Eddie, he could have found another way to visit that was less time consuming than a full time job.
I don't see how Galt doing track laborer work was a good idea. I think it was a real shame he didn't spend most of that time doing physics, reading, thinking about how to recruit Rearden, etc, rather than doing manual labor. And I think the manual labor was unnecessary.
Isn't a lot of manual labour the kind of work that you can think about other things while you do it? So Galt could have been thinking about physics problems, or about how to recruit Rearden, while working on the track.
Manual labor is a lot harder than, say, sitting around a patent office (Einstein). It's TIRING, that makes it harder to think.
I'm sure Galt did some thinking on the job, but those circumstances made thinking harder.
Wasn't Galt working as a track laborer just for the surprise effect in the story of him being Dagny's own worker without her noticing it until near the end?
Yeah, but I don't think the convenience of the book author is a good in-world reason for Galt to work that job.
Maybe he has better ways of thinking while doing physical labour and being tired than you do.
Or maybe he didn't work that much? He was on the books as a worker and appeared in a load of scenes sitting and talking, but how can we tell how much actual labour he did?
Manual labor is hard. Don't downplay that or, bizarrely, personalize this to me.
Look at all the farmers of history who work in the fields and get BONE TIRED. Ask them how easy it is to read books and think about physics while living that lifestyle.
No, doing significant amounts of manual labor did not help Galt think better.
What would you recommend to people who still haven't found a way out of having to do manual labor or otherwise repetitive, menial work for money?
> If Galt just wanted to observe Dagny and chat with Eddie, he could have found another way to visit that was less time consuming than a full time job.
What other way? Having a job and renting a place nearby seems convenient. Wasn't he also convincing other great minds to join him in the valley? So he needed to be outside the valley to recruit them.
Ot maybe it was to not have the government investigate disappearances? Didn't other people have jobs outside the valley too? Like the philosopher?
Rent a place nearby and not have a job, by go to the train station sometimes (less than 40 hours a week, and spending more of his time in places where he'd see Dagny).
Learn what? The only thing I like to do is not something people would pay me for.
Learn to like other things. Learn philosophy.
> Rent a place nearby and not have a job, by go to the train station sometimes (less than 40 hours a week, and spending more of his time in places where he'd see Dagny).
Rent a place with what money? Money given to him by Francisco?
it says that in the blog post. did you read it?
> Learn to like other things. Learn philosophy.
Why should I have to like other things? Why can't I do what I love now?
In what does learning philosophy help me make money without suffering?
helps you be less helpless
Is there evidence he was actually a manual laborer except that time when Dagny finds him? Maybe he was just on the roll.
> helps you be less helpless
in what way? i just want to do what i love. being told to like other things has been part of the problem that kept me stuck and in pain so many years, not of the solution. or can't you see that?
Did you read the book carefully? Did you try to check it? Why should I do everything for you?
> Did you read the book carefully? Did you try to check it? Why should I do everything for you?
everything? i didn't ask for everything.
kindle keeps crashing on me i gave up on using it. i'll look for my physical copy in a sec and check.
> Why should I have to like other things? Why can't I do what I love now?
You don't have to. But it would help you to learn philosophy.
You can do what you love now, but you can do it *better* if you improve your ability to learn and think with good philosophy.
What do you love? Why don't you think you can get paid for it?
> in what way? i just want to do what i love. being told to like other things has been part of the problem that kept me stuck and in pain so many years, not of the solution. or can't you see that?
You're anonymous. It's impossible to see that about you without you saying a lot more about yourself.
Don't learn philosophy just because you're told to. You're right that doing that is a problem.
What I want from philosophy is help doing I love a lot and feel good about doing what I love a lot like when I was kid. I want the urge and the guilt free happiness back.
Is that an initial want, a starting point. Or is it a fixed, static agenda?
I've found the quote, btw. Galt did work as a track laborer for 12 years.
> Is that an initial want, a starting point. Or is it a fixed, static agenda?
it's all i want to do.
How can I find someone who wants to support me as I learn to draw?
So it's only good for Galt? Why?
we can't read your mind. what's only good for Galt?
> But Galt had better things to do with his time, like work in his lab, and I see a simple solution. Francisco could have simply given Galt a million dollars.
oh you wanted monetary support?
well, become a Galt-quality philosopher and then teach some rich people some philosophy, like Galt did.
you should just earn your money. be productive. do something good.
the reason for Galt to receive money as a gift is special circumstances. Galt could have made lots of money himself. the reason he didn't do that, and the reason he took the shitty job, was just because he was trying not to help the looters. in a better world, he'd make his own money, no problem.
I thought the argument was that manual work is bad and a waste of time vs creative work.
I already earn my money.
I don't want to be a philosopher, I want to draw.
Galt did creative work that was trivial to sell for millions of dollars. And he got there without handouts.
Do good enough work and you won't have a problem.
I don't want to have to work for others and their expectations. I like to do on my own thing.