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Elliot Temple on October 11, 2020

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for some reason i am slightly afraid of the only post as internetrules rule. im afraid i might break it i think. but i dont think i would break it because there doesnt seem like any reason to.

if i forget to add my name in the "author" section i can just write a followup message saying that the last message was me and i forgot to sign it.

it does not seem like there is anything to worry about with this rule.


internetrules at 1:34 PM on October 11, 2020 | #18283 | reply | quote

forgetting is not a big deal. i thought people sock puppeting their own threads would be bad so i came up with this policy. part of the point of the threads is to be able to talk to a particular person and ask them questions. that works better if they are actually present in the discussion under their own name. i don't want to be talking to an anonymous that might or might not be Joe and have that be normal in Joe's thread. and this way there is a record of what Joe said or learned in his thread – you can just search for his name and see all the posts by him. you're not going to do a bunch of sock puppeting by accident. and if u want to post anonymously u can go in open discussion or somewhere else.


curi at 1:38 PM on October 11, 2020 | #18284 | reply | quote

i dont actively try to learn shortcuts in computers enough. i should try to learn more shortcuts.

currently its like every few months il spend some time trying to learn some shortcuts but then i stop trying to find shortcuts.

i think i should spend some more time learning shortcuts.

i think they save the time you end up spending on learning them

when i do something and it seems kinda slow, or maybe i do it all the time, then i think i should try to learn a shortcut for it

if i do thing A every day, and thing A takes 10 seconds without shortcuts, but 5 seconds with shortcuts. and it takes 60 seconds to learn the shortcut, then it will take 13 days to start saving time from learning the shortcut (5 x 13 = 65 which is over 60)

ok lets see how much time i will save in a year

5 x 365 = 1825 -60 = 1765. 1765 seconds to minutes 29.41667 minutes! i would save half an hour in a year from spending 1 minute of learning!


internetrules at 2:34 PM on October 11, 2020 | #18285 | reply | quote

#18285 A rule of thumb is to learn shortcuts the third time you use them (if it's in a short enough amount of time you that you can remember it's the third time).

This is similar to writing reusable code the third time you do the same thing.

Three times is a rough indicator of a pattern. If you have a pattern of entering a command, then a shortcut is good. If there's no pattern (like use it once or twice ever) then learning a shortcut isn't worth the effort.

Also, in general with lots of stuff, slowing down and doing it the right way early on is worthwhile. Then you form good habits. You don't wanna form a habit of doing something the wrong way or the inefficient way.

If you're not sure how much you'll use something, or you're not sure what the best way is, then you can try stuff. But when you recognize you'll use it a bunch and figure out what the best way is, then you immediately wanna start doing the best way and making that your habit.


curi at 2:38 PM on October 11, 2020 | #18286 | reply | quote

Do you use ctrl+c and ctrl+v for copy/paste? (ctrl+x is usually cut, too)

They're good ones to start with.

I use ctrl+page-up/down to move between tabs in browsers a lot (next/prev tab). ctrl+l to go to the URL bar, too. Those might be good ones if you do a decent amount of browsing.

> ok lets see how much time i will save in a year

Reminds me of this: https://xkcd.com/1205/


Max at 2:41 PM on October 11, 2020 | #18287 | reply | quote

> Do you use ctrl+c and ctrl+v for copy/paste? (ctrl+x is usually cut, too)

yeah. i dont like ctrl x cuz im worried i could end up acidentally deleting things. for small messages like this tho it would probably be worth using it if it is relevant. if i somehow delete this message or your quote no big deal.

> I use ctrl+page-up/down to move between tabs in browsers a lot (next/prev tab). ctrl+l to go to the URL bar, too. Those might be good ones if you do a decent amount of browsing.

for me ctrl + tab cycles windows and ctrl + e goes to search bar. i should use both more.


Anonymous at 2:50 PM on October 11, 2020 | #18289 | reply | quote

#18289 o hey that was me internetrules. i forgot to put the name in


internetrules at 2:55 PM on October 11, 2020 | #18290 | reply | quote

> i dont like ctrl x cuz im worried i could end up acidentally deleting things

I sometimes accidentally ctrl+x -- I either ctrl+v it somewhere else, or ctrl+z to undo the deletion (but whatever you cut usually stays on the clipboard, so you can still paste it).

I don't use ctrl+x much. Mostly to move stuff between documents.

> ctrl + e

In chrome (browser I'm using atm) it goes to the search bar with 'Search Google:' already up there (so I couldn't type a new url, just a search query). ctrl+k does the same thing.

> ctrl + tab cycles windows

ctrl+tab or alt+tab? ctrl+tab usually cycles tabs for me (and alt+tab does windows). on Windows 10 win+tab will bring up the multi-desktop interface which looks a bit like expose on Mac.

> if i forget to add my name in the "author" section i can just write a followup message saying that the last message was me and i forgot to sign it.

I think Alisa mentioned to me that changing the workflow you use when filling out a comment helped her. (It's helped me too, since.) I usually double click the author field first to bring up past names and select 'Max'. Building that habit has helped a lot.


Max at 3:02 PM on October 11, 2020 | #18291 | reply | quote

>> ctrl + tab cycles windows

> ctrl+tab or alt+tab?

i meant alt+tab


internetrules at 2:18 PM on October 12, 2020 | #18303 | reply | quote

i want to post onto this microblogging thing more. this message seems like it will help me do that.


internetrules at 6:25 PM on October 22, 2020 | #18406 | reply | quote

#18406 What's up?


Dagny at 6:26 PM on October 22, 2020 | #18408 | reply | quote

#18408

i guess im trying to think of something to post. now that i realize this i have thought of something to post.

now i need to think a bit about the logistics of posting it cuz i dont think its just an ez copy paste cuz i think i need to rewrite it a bit. but a lot of the thinking with the actual text is already done i just need to figure out how to post it.


internetrules at 6:58 PM on October 22, 2020 | #18416 | reply | quote

some thoughts about writing things

i want to write some thoughts about the Alcatraz books.

how do you do that? i think i just like start writing? sounds right.

write about what tho? i have pre existing stuff i wrote about, i guess i can use them as prompts.

how do u come up with what to write about? idk. i think i mostly just write about things that i feel like writing about. this seems like something worth thinking about more. how to figure out what to write about seems really important!

being able to come up with thing to write easier seems like it would help me write about things! i want to be able to write about things easier.

this started as trying to like reason thru how to start writing about alcatraz. i stated something i wanted to do, then tried to figure out how to do that.

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i wrote all this text pretty quickly, but it took me like 15 minutes to actually post on curi. i think if i post more stuff on curi and if i try to post stuff to curi quicker that i will then post stuff quicker.


internetrules at 8:54 PM on October 22, 2020 | #18418 | reply | quote

#18418 I wrote this earlier today:

For an idea, there are many generic things to talk about:

- what is the purpose of the idea? aka the goal or the problem it’s trying to solve.

- how does the idea accomplish that purpose? how/why does it work?

- problem history: what other ideas have tried to accomplish this goal? what’s wrong with them to motivate a new idea? how does this new idea try to do better compared to past attempts?

- what have you already done to criticize/test/check this idea? (general purpose stuff? specific stuff?)

- what unknowns, sources of error and risks remain outstanding?

- what new info or scenarios would change your mind about this idea?

- what is the current status of this idea? did you conclude in favor of it, or is it just a guess you think is worth investigating, or something else?

- how does this idea connect with other ideas and fields? where is its place in an intellectual hierarchy/tree/pyramid or graph/web? (graph is arbitrary nodes and connections)

- what new issues does this idea lead to? what might be next? what are areas for further development or refinement?


curi at 9:51 PM on October 22, 2020 | #18419 | reply | quote

#18418 For a novel you can write about the plot, a specific event, a character, or an opinion you have. What was the book about? What was a character like? Why did that event happen? Was that decision good or bad? What didn't happen but would have made the book better? What unanswered questions were left at the end? Could you predict anything that happened in the book before you read it? Did you see any foreshadowing in advance? Did you see any hints in retrospect (after X happened, you realized that something earlier in the book was a hint that X would happen)? Do you have any questions? Is anything confusing? What were you favorite parts and why? What do you think was high or low quality? How was it similar to and different than other books?


curi at 9:54 PM on October 22, 2020 | #18420 | reply | quote

#18419 #18420

trying to do all these things at once seems like it would be really overwhelming. so i think the pro strategy is to think about one at a time, or like pick a few you really like and do those. or you could write a few thoughts for each question.


internetrules at 10:35 PM on October 22, 2020 | #18422 | reply | quote

#18422 Yeah 1-3 at a time is good. Mostly: If you get stuck with nothing to write, look through them and find a way to get unstuck. If you ever get through all of them and still have nothing to say, say that.


curi at 10:42 PM on October 22, 2020 | #18423 | reply | quote

alcatraz

ima try writing about Alcatraz the book series!

i have read the first 3 books. i have liked them all

one of the main things in the book is the magic system. it has the magic with glass. and there is magic from smedry talents. i like the magic.

i like how each book starts with a beginning theme or something. like at the beginning of each book alcatraz says something about himself, they were something like:

first book: i am not a good person.

second book: i am a liar.

third book: i am awesome.

fourth book: i am an idiot.

it gives you a main thing to think about during the book i think. like you can try to see if the theme relates to things in the book. i dont think i connected the theme with contents of the book a lot. less than 1 time per 5 chapters i think.

also he talks about the theme during the book. so in book one he talked about some writing tricks that writers do because they are not nice people. like they will start the book with a really interesting thing that you want to see, and then not get to that thing until way later in the book.

i dont know how common the writing things he talked about were cuz i dont read many books. i took his word for the writing stuff he talked about.

i dont think i noticed many relations with the theme of the book, and the contents of the book.

ok im gonna try to think about the first books theme and its contents and see if i can remember a relation:

one of the things relating to the theme was in a scene where he was prisoner in a dungeon and he thought about why he broke things in his foster parents houses. and he started doing it intentionally so he wouldnt have to make connections with his foster family only to lose them cuz he accidentally broke something. so i guess that makes him not a good person cuz he intentionally broke important stuff so the foster parents would get rid of him.

thats the only thing i can remember at the moment. im gonna post this and probably write more tomorrow


internetrules at 11:33 PM on October 22, 2020 | #18424 | reply | quote

> also he talks about the theme during the book. so in book one he talked about some writing tricks that writers do because they are not nice people. like they will start the book with a really interesting thing that you want to see, and then not get to that thing until way later in the book.

Some books do that. I think it's more common in movies and TV. They have an intro scene and then are like "3 days earlier" and sometimes you don't find out what happened until the end of the whole TV season after 22 episodes. Or they just have something exciting happen to get your attention and then start doing some normal scenes after and you don't get more exciting scenes for a while.

Epic fantasy books fairly often have something in the prolog of book 1 that you won't understand very well until like book 5 or later. It's like here is what the gods/heroes/kings/wizards/monsters do, for a few pages, which you won't understand yet, and ok that's enough of that, now meet the 18yo farm boy main character as he begins his adventure that will very eventually mean he meets gods/heroes/kings/wizards/monsters. Shorter stuff like standalone novels or even trilogies do this less often IME.


curi at 11:39 PM on October 22, 2020 | #18425 | reply | quote

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