I (and other members of the Fallible Ideas community) have been subjected to severe harassment over the last 2.5 years, including illegal actions like DDoSing and threatening IRL harm. The harassment includes hundreds of comments from over 100 IP addresses and over 20 false identities (some maintained for months). It’s coming from the CritRat community led by David Deutsch (DD), who used to be my mentor and colleague. They’ve said they’re harassing because they see me as DD’s enemy. DD left our community (after years of participation) and formed a new community (CritRat) which is harassing his former community which he has a grudge against. When asked to request that his fans stop harassing, DD not only refused but lied to attack me, which encourages further harassment (in my understanding, that lie is illegal: libel and defamation).
I’m writing a series of posts to explain what’s going on, including what harassment happened, what the evidence is, and why I place blame on Deutsch. I’m doing this publicly because Deutsch and his associates have refused to discuss it privately. They’ve also refused to say they are opposed to harassment or that they want the culprits to stop. Many of them are publicly friendly with the biggest harasser, Andy B.
- Deutsch Lied about Me
- David Deutsch’s Gossip and Harassment Leadership
- Deutsch Tweets with my Cyberstalker and Harasser, Andy B
- Deutsch's Responsibility for Harassment (infographic)
- Deutsch's Denial
- Does Deutsch Know He's Lying?
- Beginning of Infinity Website Removed in Protest
- David Deutsch Megathread
- Andy B's Campaign of Harassment (lots of additional info in comments)
- Connections Between Deutsch’s Associates and Andy B
- Andy B Harassment Update (lots of additional info in comments)
- Friend Groups, Social Legitimacy, Abusers and No Contact Requests
- Sam Harris on Defamation; Comments on Deutsch and Others Defaming Me
- Reactions to Abuse Victims
- Harassment Update for September 2021
- Harassment Update for November 2021
- Harassment Update for May 2022
- Harassment Update for February 2023
David Deutsch Background Information & Context
- What Happened with Deutsch
- Deutsch’s Fear and Revulsion
- Deutsch’s Irrationality
- Deutsch Wants to Control Others and His Reputation
- Deutsch Retrospective Thoughts
- What Happened with the TCS Archives
- Deutsch’s Past Praise for Me
- Biases Deutsch Taught Me
- Deutsch and My “Talent”
- Deutsch and Lulie Tanett Violated Reasonable Expectations
- Was Deutsch Using Me to Help with BoI?
- Misquotes by Deutsch (DD isn't the great scholar people think he is)
- Deutsch and Sarah Fitz-Claridge Publish Misquotes
- David Deutsch Smears Ayn Rand
- Analysis of David Deutsch’s The Final Prejudice
- Video: Talking About David Deutsch and Andy B Harassment
- Lulie Tanett Defended Me
- Community Schism
- Community History
- Dennis Hackethal's Plagiarism (he’s a CritRat involved in libel and DDoSing)
- Logan Chipkin Trademark Problem (he's a CritRat)
- CritRats Are Obsessed with Me
- Callout Blog Posts Policy
- Harassment Sucks
- Sarah Fitz-Claridge Lied About Me
- Public curi.us Comments Disabled
The harassment problem has not ended. Nothing has been fixed so far. DD and others have not made any attempts to improve the situation. Comments on this website remain disabled due to the harassment problem. It's an active issue that is affecting my life on a daily basis.
I hope people who read this will ask DD and other CritRats to answer for this, and will bring up the issue to DD and his community. Please don't harass them, but do raise the issue, ask challenging questions, and share critical opinions.
I've shared a lot of information, but I know I can never completely cover everything people might want to know. I'm open to questions about these issues from people who are making a genuine effort to understand and who already read some of the articles. You can email me at [email protected] or post at my forum. And if any CritRat is willing to discuss the harassment problem, please email me (CritRats unwilling to discuss the problem should not contact me).
I updated this post with more links and organized them into categories.
> The harassment problem has not ended. Nothing has been fixed so far. DD and others have not made any attempts to improve the situation. Comments on this website remain disabled due to the harassment problem. *It's an active issue that is affecting my life on a daily basis.*
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added call to action:
> I hope people who read this will ask DD to answer for this, and will bring up the issue to him and to his community. Please don't harass them, but do raise the issue, ask challenging questions, and share critical opinions.
This new, anonymous twitter account appears to be a CritRat (most of his tweets are with CritRats) who is purposely trolling Elliot by using the name of Elliot's philosophy, Critical Fallibilism, for his account name, CFallibilism.
Elliot has been using the term for a while, and the account was created in June 2021 after https://criticalfallibilism.com was launched.
Added 2 more posts and reorganized the links a bit with the new "David Deutsch Background Information & Context" section.
added *What Happened with David Deutsch* and *Lulie Defended Me*
added more posts.
btw some ppl seem to think "ofc he's mad; you wrote a bunch of negative posts about him" but they aren't thinking about the timeline. harassment came first, then i tried to talk with DD privately, then later I wrote stuff, mostly after DD defamed me. the harassment problem has been ongoing for years and won't stop regardless of what i do or don't do, and I prefer to tell my story and give people the opportunity to understand and judge.
added more posts.
i'd still prefer deescalation. i wish any CritRats would get in touch with me about conflict resolution.
This is a good example of what promoting harassment looks like. The Lead Product Manager from Blizzard is in a similar role to DD. (Except that DD actually personally did harassment by lying to smear me – that both encourages harassment and *is* harassment.)
#10 i liked his criticism of the argument that it was just the guy's personal account (by bringing up that the status of his account on twitter is based on his professional role).
I'm also kind of amazed how unprofessional people feel comfortable acting in public forums.
DD's misquotes are non-random and they got significantly worse in BoI than FoR. Therefore it's not just being bad at typing.
It could involve a bias like he double checks quotes when they sound bad to him, but doesn't double check when they sound good to him. And also he's more likely to typo stuff in ways that sound good to him. And also he thinks certain types of edits, like changing punctuation, are OK.
There are so many wording changes it's hard to think they're all typos he missed due to bias in favor of changes that sound good to him. It seems like maybe he decided changing wordings in quotes is OK. But i don't know.
It seems like he had some kinda attitude change b/c in FoR a bunch of quotes have sources *with page numbers*, whereas IIRC he never gives page numbers in BoI.
DD ought to provide an explanation, himself, of what he thinks happened with all the misquotes, and what his current attitude is (e.g. does he think he screwed up and will they all be fixed in a second edition? or would he actually defend some of it?).
Added new last para to post saying ppl can ask me questions since i shared lots of info but ofc it's incomplete. And if any CritRat is actually willing to discuss the problem, plz email me. (So far none of them have been willing to discuss it, which is really bad.)
Took down BoI website in protest and added link for that.
Made forum megathread for discussing this stuff:
Another CritRat is blatantly plagiarizing Elliot:
Guy is tweeting about how he's taking feedback from Andy B on the post.
See e.g. Elliot's:
#15 His Andy B association:
[From] Lucas Smalldon
for highlighting the confusing usage of "infinitely" in my original post. Update for clarity, below:
Original: "a fallible entity is infinitely error prone"
Updated: "a fallible entity is limitlessly error prone"
made video and added to post
https://fourstrands.org is currently linking to Andy's BoI subreddit on the sidebar.
#18 fourstrands.org is by Bruce, one of the harassment leaders who is buddies with Andy B. DD himself recently chose to be hosted by Bruce and help promote Bruce:
#16 The plagiarist Lucas Smalldon (@reason_wit_me) is tweeting with Andy B a lot more:
Added Reactions to Abuse Victims (from my forum) to the list of posts.